[Boxing]: Ancajas vs Martinez - Feb 26, 2022 - page 8.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 25, 2022, 05:32:44 AM

This will be an interesting match up but then again, Ancajas is in an obvious advantage right here.

It will be, and I think Ancajas will not have this one as an easy fight since Martinez also has a good record. The only reason why Ancajas is the favorites is because he has more experience, but you can never underestimate a boxer with less experience but hungry for a win.

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Quote from: Jating on November 25, 2021, 03:16:47 AM

This will be a difficult and an even match between the two.

Both are champions, Ancajas the more experienced as he has defended his belt many times. But then again, we known the history between Japanese fighters and Filipinos, they have a history so. this will be close match for me. And Ancajas didn't look good at his last fight against Rodriguez so hopefully he will bounce back with a solid performance here.

I could see Alcajas' determination in all his fights even with Rodriguez. It was tough and quite hard for him but his strikes are too surprising. I do not doubt that he could perform better again this time. Alcajas is starting to put up a good name and I guess it will be another opportunity for him to prove more.

Ancajas is expected to win this fight. I mean he all have the advantages. Experience, reach and height, strength and the belt.
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Though Martinez may not be an easy opponent, infact they are worthy of each others opponent. If they go toe to toe this fight might end up in a TKO as they both have good KO percentage above 60%.
This will be an interesting match up but then again, Ancajas is in an obvious advantage right here.

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Quote from: Jating on November 25, 2021, 03:16:47 AM

This will be a difficult and an even match between the two.

Both are champions, Ancajas the more experienced as he has defended his belt many times. But then again, we known the history between Japanese fighters and Filipinos, they have a history so. this will be close match for me. And Ancajas didn't look good at his last fight against Rodriguez so hopefully he will bounce back with a solid performance here.

I could see Alcajas' determination in all his fights even with Rodriguez. It was tough and quite hard for him but his strikes are too surprising. I do not doubt that he could perform better again this time. Alcajas is starting to put up a good name and I guess it will be another opportunity for him to prove more.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 24, 2022, 01:28:21 PM

i have the feeling that with the recent win of magsayo in boxing, sportsbooks will think on how to give odds with upcoming fights of these filipino boxers. but just looking at the tale of the tape, it is clear that ancajas has many advantages over martinez. experience alone - 12 yrs of being pro vs 4, that's a big advantage in my opinion.
so am thinking that they may give 1.4-1.7 odds here in favour of ancajas. let's see after a week if they will release the betting lines for this match.

They might give that some weight. After that, upset from Magsayo bookies will balance this out. They can give that range in favor

to Ancajas, this might be a good value to bettors. They can get some decent odd bigger if compared to other favorites, but we are unsure

they might see other factors that affect the odds.

Let's wait till next week if they will provide it up and see who's going to get the favor and what are the odds for each fighter.

So it's not available in the sportsbook yet? I think Ancajas being the more experienced and a champion himself is going to be the favorite here. According to this site - https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#iw-modal, the latest odds are as follows.

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Latest Odds
Ancajas to win: 1/3
Martinez to win: 2/1
Draw: 23/1

So I guess that wouldn't change a lot, we just need to wait until it's officially listed.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 24, 2022, 01:28:21 PM

i have the feeling that with the recent win of magsayo in boxing, sportsbooks will think on how to give odds with upcoming fights of these filipino boxers. but just looking at the tale of the tape, it is clear that ancajas has many advantages over martinez. experience alone - 12 yrs of being pro vs 4, that's a big advantage in my opinion.
so am thinking that they may give 1.4-1.7 odds here in favour of ancajas. let's see after a week if they will release the betting lines for this match.

They might give that some weight. After that, upset from Magsayo bookies will balance this out. They can give that range in favor

to Ancajas, this might be a good value to bettors. They can get some decent odd bigger if compared to other favorites, but we are unsure

they might see other factors that affect the odds.

Let's wait till next week if they will provide it up and see who's going to get the favor and what are the odds for each fighter.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

He has a working strategy for sure, his record is good so I believe he can still win this fight despite an undefeated opponent. No one could say he is guaranteed to win but I stick with what I believe that Filipino boxers are championship-caliber fighters now. This could be a tough match for Ancajas but he'll find a way to win.

You are right, we've seen Mark Magsayo raising the flag for the Philippines with a big win against Gary Russell to win the belt. So it's true that Filipino are championship-caliber fighter and Ancajas could continue the tradition and the winning streak for Filipinos in the boxing scene.

Of course every match is going to be tough, as fighters wanted to knock each other out. But for sure Jerwin has seen what Magsayo has done and could inspired him to beat Martinez here.

i have the feeling that with the recent win of magsayo in boxing, sportsbooks will think on how to give odds with upcoming fights of these filipino boxers. but just looking at the tale of the tape, it is clear that ancajas has many advantages over martinez. experience alone - 12 yrs of being pro vs 4, that's a big advantage in my opinion.
so am thinking that they may give 1.4-1.7 odds here in favour of ancajas. let's see after a week if they will release the betting lines for this match.

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Quote from: yazher on January 09, 2022, 06:33:27 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

He has a working strategy for sure, his record is good so I believe he can still win this fight despite an undefeated opponent. No one could say he is guaranteed to win but I stick with what I believe that Filipino boxers are championship-caliber fighters now. This could be a tough match for Ancajas but he'll find a way to win.

You are right, we've seen Mark Magsayo raising the flag for the Philippines with a big win against Gary Russell to win the belt. So it's true that Filipino are championship-caliber fighter and Ancajas could continue the tradition and the winning streak for Filipinos in the boxing scene.

Of course every match is going to be tough, as fighters wanted to knock each other out. But for sure Jerwin has seen what Magsayo has done and could inspired him to beat Martinez here.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 09, 2022, 09:12:23 AM

Quote from: yazher on January 09, 2022, 06:33:27 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

I agree with that; he needs to find a good working strategy to knock Martinez down,

Boxing is not always about experienced. Itits more on system and adjustment, though it's also true that experienced gave
a fighter a good edge since he can calculate and quickly change his plan when the current is not working with his opponent,

I mean, experienced fighter will give tough fight to anyone that got lesser fight, it will all depends from how both fighters
prepared and execute their strategies.

I think everyone has his strategy to knock out his opponents, it's just how they are going to execute it perfectly.

And that's why there are smart trainers and boxers who said that they are not going to push or look for a knock-out, they want it to come to them and then take advantage of that situation.

So Ancajas might have his own strategy, but it the knock out didn't come they he should have a plan B or even Plan C.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 09, 2022, 09:12:23 AM

Quote from: yazher on January 09, 2022, 06:33:27 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

I agree with that; he needs to find a good working strategy to knock Martinez down,

Boxing is not always about experienced. Itits more on system and adjustment, though it's also true that experienced gave
a fighter a good edge since he can calculate and quickly change his plan when the current is not working with his opponent,

I mean, experienced fighter will give tough fight to anyone that got lesser fight, it will all depends from how both fighters
prepared and execute their strategies.

We will only find out if the strategy is working if he wins the fight. Though a boxer trained hard but it doesn't guarantee a win as both of them would want to win. Maybe the best fighter wins, that's what we are going to see here and all we can do now is just hope that the fighter we are betting will win.

Also, with the increasing number of omicron virus, let's hope together that it will not result to a postponement or worst cancellation of the fight.

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Quote from: yazher on January 09, 2022, 06:33:27 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

I agree with that; he needs to find a good working strategy to knock Martinez down,

Boxing is not always about experienced. Itits more on system and adjustment, though it's also true that experienced gave
a fighter a good edge since he can calculate and quickly change his plan when the current is not working with his opponent,

I mean, experienced fighter will give tough fight to anyone that got lesser fight, it will all depends from how both fighters
prepared and execute their strategies.

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Quote from: yazher on January 09, 2022, 06:33:27 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

He has a working strategy for sure, his record is good so I believe he can still win this fight despite an undefeated opponent. No one could say he is guaranteed to win but I stick with what I believe that Filipino boxers are championship-caliber fighters now. This could be a tough match for Ancajas but he'll find a way to win.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2022, 04:51:38 PM

Let's wait for the betting odds but I also have a feeling that Ancajas will be favored to win here. Not because his opponent is undefeated it will be tough for Ancajas to crack him, let's all remember that Ancajas is the more experienced fighter with 33 fights while Martinez has only 13.

When it comes to experience, it always has some advantage no matter how good the records of their opponent are because they know how to counter styles based on the past fights they had in the past. Now if Martinez is a real prodigy in boxing like Garcia, Ancajas is in real trouble because he can't just knock him out based on mere experience. He really needs a real working strategy to surprise him when they step in the ring.

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Quote from: molsewid on January 07, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

people are on the street because they are all busy watching the game like even if they are only watching it on television they really support their boxers.

That was because local big TV stations are airing the fight of Manny Pacquiao in prime time. Unfortunately, not all PH boxers are having that kind of treatment by the big stations here because of an obvious reason that it needs to be a big fight for more advertisements to come.

Quote from: Questat on January 07, 2022, 04:21:56 PM

I hope the odds dis not below 1.60, that would already convince me to bet on Ancajas to win.

I think the odds for Ancajas won't be below that 1.60.

It's not that his opponent has no chance. I even think that it will be in the range of @1.7-1.8.

I was looking for some sportsbooks and they don't have the odds yet. I will bet on Ancajas here because he has all the advantages. Maybe they will give the odds at least a week or two before the fight. Especially for them the names are not so big or popular in boxing.

I think for this fight, it might in the last couple of days before we can see the odds.

At least that's what I observed on not so big fights, some sportbookies are late on opening the line of such fight but at least they will give everyone a chance to put their fight as the date gets closer.

So we will have to wait then, you will be surprised how time flies.

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Quote from: 24Kt on January 07, 2022, 06:39:35 PM

Especially for them the names are not so big or popular in boxing.

No, it's not the reason why there are no available odds. Even our popular Casimero or Donaire previous fights, odds are just released a few days left before the fight. Maybe while the date is approaching, there are still lots of happening that might happen on the way that might change the odds.

Let's not rush on odds availability if, in the first place, you will only bet on Ancajas regardless of the odds.

That's exactly the point, we will still put our bet on Ancajas to win so there's no need to rush. However, knowing the betting odds early will give us an idea of how the public sees this fight, whether Ancajas is the favorite or not, it doesn't matter though but we just love to analyze this fight.

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Quote from: 24Kt on January 07, 2022, 06:39:35 PM

Especially for them the names are not so big or popular in boxing.

No, it's not the reason why there are no available odds. Even our popular Casimero or Donaire previous fights, odds are just released a few days left before the fight. Maybe while the date is approaching, there are still lots of happening that might happen on the way that might change the odds.

Let's not rush on odds availability if, in the first place, you will only bet on Ancajas regardless of the odds.

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Quote from: molsewid on January 07, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

people are on the street because they are all busy watching the game like even if they are only watching it on television they really support their boxers.

That was because local big TV stations are airing the fight of Manny Pacquiao in prime time. Unfortunately, not all PH boxers are having that kind of treatment by the big stations here because of an obvious reason that it needs to be a big fight for more advertisements to come.

Quote from: Questat on January 07, 2022, 04:21:56 PM

I hope the odds dis not below 1.60, that would already convince me to bet on Ancajas to win.

I think the odds for Ancajas won't be below that 1.60.

It's not that his opponent has no chance. I even think that it will be in the range of @1.7-1.8.

I was looking for some sportsbooks and they don't have the odds yet. I will bet on Ancajas here because he has all the advantages. Maybe they will give the odds at least a week or two before the fight. Especially for them the names are not so big or popular in boxing.

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Quote from: molsewid on January 07, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

people are on the street because they are all busy watching the game like even if they are only watching it on television they really support their boxers.

That was because local big TV stations are airing the fight of Manny Pacquiao in prime time. Unfortunately, not all PH boxers are having that kind of treatment by the big stations here because of an obvious reason that it needs to be a big fight for more advertisements to come.

Quote from: Questat on January 07, 2022, 04:21:56 PM

I hope the odds dis not below 1.60, that would already convince me to bet on Ancajas to win.

I think the odds for Ancajas won't be below that 1.60.

It's not that his opponent has no chance. I even think that it will be in the range of @1.7-1.8.

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Quote from: molsewid on January 07, 2022, 10:30:12 AM

Quote from: Questat on January 06, 2022, 11:02:46 PM

Whatever the odds of this fight we already know who gets the most bets from our community here. Most posters are talking about Ancajas winning this fight and I wouldn't be surprise as most posters in this thread are Filipino, they could be bias or will bet according to their emotion.

Well, I think it is safe to say that they are very supportive on their fellowmen who will have a big fight on the said date. I think they are a kind of people who really value the effort of the Filipino fighter and I heard they are a solid fan of boxing which like the big fight of Manny became an expected holiday for them, no people are on the street because they are all busy watching the game like even if they are only watching it on television they really support their boxers. I think Anjacas deserve to bet on because of his skills and potentials not just by relying on the betting odds and that's what our other member here in community find it to Anjacas which yeah it includes me.

Well, of course, he has a better record than his present opponent so it's nice to put a bet on him. However, if he is highly favored to win, I guess the excitement will be gone as we always like to bet on the good odds that we also think have a good chance of winning. I hope the odds dis not below 1.60, that would already convince me to bet on Ancajas to win.

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Quote from: Questat on January 06, 2022, 11:02:46 PM

Whatever the odds of this fight we already know who gets the most bets from our community here. Most posters are talking about Ancajas winning this fight and I wouldn't be surprise as most posters in this thread are Filipino, they could be bias or will bet according to their emotion.

Well, I think it is safe to say that they are very supportive on their fellowmen who will have a big fight on the said date. I think they are a kind of people who really value the effort of the Filipino fighter and I heard they are a solid fan of boxing which like the big fight of Manny became an expected holiday for them, no people are on the street because they are all busy watching the game like even if they are only watching it on television they really support their boxers. I think Anjacas deserve to bet on because of his skills and potentials not just by relying on the betting odds and that's what our other member here in community find it to Anjacas which yeah it includes me.

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Quote from: Questat on January 06, 2022, 11:02:46 PM

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 06, 2022, 05:22:05 PM

I'm also checking the betting odds from time to time but it doesn't show anything online, it only means the we cannot expect it soon and most likely it will be out as the fight is approaching like a day or two. Most Filipinos will go for Ancajas, so I will not go the other way.

Should be expected as usual.

Odds will be released once the fight is almost closed to date. First, the general odds in fiat sportsbook which should be released at least a week before the scheduled fight then expect at least a day or two for crypto sportsbook.

For now, we can refer to some boxing gurus and analysts regarding their fearless forecast about the odds but for reference purposes only.

Whatever the odds of this fight we already know who gets the most bets from our community here. Most posters are talking about Ancajas winning this fight and I wouldn't be surprise as most posters in this thread are Filipino, they could be bias or will bet according to their emotion.

Obviously it will be biased, nevertheless, Ancajas has all the tools isn't it? So I wouldn't be surprised if even non-Filipinos here will think that Jerwin has a good chance to win against a unknown Martinez.

But the odds are not out their yet, maybe though ML is not a good bet here, as it is better to look as to what rounds are Ancajas is going to win or whether this fight will be extend to 12 rounds.

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