[Boxing]: Ancajas vs Martinez - Feb 26, 2022 - page 4.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 19, 2022, 11:29:31 PM

Quote from: judeafante on February 19, 2022, 07:52:36 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:44:53 PM

Some information regarding the fight, it can be seen here.
https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#close

As per the article, the odds of Ancajas is "Ancajas to win: 1/3"... I cannot confirm it since my bookie has not listed the fight yet. By the way, the date in the OP should be changed to February 26.

OP is very active here so he is aware of this discussion I also thought it will happen today together with the Brook-Khan fight but it's two different dates the odds are correct Ancajas is a much better fighter between the two he is a better technical fighter I saw his training and he is very prepared and there's a report that he knocks down his sparring partner causing a commotion after that.

And this is the video of the sparring for those who wanted to witnessed what really happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8FELed5_w

And here is the video of Ancajas apologizing, but I don't think he needed to do that.
partner didn't like what he see thats' why there's some kind of commotion (bottle throwing).

That punch was lethal, if there was no protection in the head, that would hurt a lot, it's going to be a big knock out in real boxing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvnh59_oiy0

Maybe others who don't understand Filipino will have to use the close captioning .

Anyhow to summarized, his training partner was hurt with the body shot but tells Jerwin to continue so he hit him with a over hand left. But his sparring partner didn't like what he see thats' why there's some kind of commotion (bottle throwing).

What's with that bottler throwing? It should be a towel to be thrown if the camp would like to stop the fight. Anyway, it's just a sparring session, not so serious but the other camp maybe carried away by their emotion, or to whoever threw that bottle.

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Quote from: judeafante on February 19, 2022, 07:52:36 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:44:53 PM

Some information regarding the fight, it can be seen here.
https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#close

As per the article, the odds of Ancajas is "Ancajas to win: 1/3"... I cannot confirm it since my bookie has not listed the fight yet. By the way, the date in the OP should be changed to February 26.

OP is very active here so he is aware of this discussion I also thought it will happen today together with the Brook-Khan fight but it's two different dates the odds are correct Ancajas is a much better fighter between the two he is a better technical fighter I saw his training and he is very prepared and there's a report that he knocks down his sparring partner causing a commotion after that.

And this is the video of the sparring for those who wanted to witnessed what really happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8FELed5_w

And here is the video of Ancajas apologizing, but I don't think he needed to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvnh59_oiy0

Maybe others who don't understand Filipino will have to use the close captioning .

Anyhow to summarized, his training partner was hurt with the body shot but tells Jerwin to continue so he hit him with a over hand left. But his sparring partner didn't like what he see thats' why there's some kind of commotion (bottle throwing).

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Well I missed the update about this fight, why the hell Martinez want to challenge Ancajas? He do have good record, but all of his opponents are newbies Tongue

Watched his replay, his skill is awful just like a rookie... it's really different with Ioka. To be honest I don't see any chance we will see an upset in this fight, he might got knocked out below 8 rounds. Pretty sure I'll bet Ancajas when the bookie already listed this fight.

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Quote from: judeafante on February 19, 2022, 07:52:36 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:44:53 PM

Some information regarding the fight, it can be seen here.
https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#close

As per the article, the odds of Ancajas is "Ancajas to win: 1/3"... I cannot confirm it since my bookie has not listed the fight yet. By the way, the date in the OP should be changed to February 26.

OP is very active here so he is aware of this discussion I also thought it will happen today together with the Brook-Khan fight but it's two different dates the odds are correct Ancajas is a much better fighter between the two he is a better technical fighter I saw his training and he is very prepared and there's a report that he knocks down his sparring partner causing a commotion after that.

And we all know that if that news is true, then it can happen in real fight, although Martinez is very tough opponent and a knock out might be hard for Ancajas to execute before for sure Martinez will be a tough cookie to crack. Anyhow, we are just weeks away from the fight, trainings has unwind, they might be just looking for the right diet to make the weight next week. Filipinos are excited to see another one of them in the ring in Vegas and for sure they are going to support him.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 19, 2022, 05:44:53 PM

Some information regarding the fight, it can be seen here.
https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#close

As per the article, the odds of Ancajas is "Ancajas to win: 1/3"... I cannot confirm it since my bookie has not listed the fight yet. By the way, the date in the OP should be changed to February 26.

OP is very active here so he is aware of this discussion I also thought it will happen today together with the Brook-Khan fight but it's two different dates the odds are correct Ancajas is a much better fighter between the two he is a better technical fighter I saw his training and he is very prepared and there's a report that he knocks down his sparring partner causing a commotion after that.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 19, 2022, 11:32:08 AM

Quote from: Questat on February 18, 2022, 08:47:06 AM

Quote from: aioc on February 18, 2022, 12:58:50 AM

Quote from: South Park on February 17, 2022, 04:29:16 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on February 13, 2022, 03:43:51 AM

I go with that mindset. It's better for them to create their own destiny,

Instead of comparing or being the next Pacman, it's much better to be known with a self identity
as long as they are excelling with this sport, pinoy fans will recognize them and idolized them, many
young generations will follow the path that they are journeying right now. Good luck to every pinoy
fighters and continue to work harder.

Exactly, after all even if someone in the future is as good as Manny they are going to be a completely different person, for example I find Manny to be a very likable individual however that does not means that the next star of of Philippines will be the same and will be loved by the public as much as Manny was, so it is better to let boxers to forge their own story, that way instead of a cheap imitation of Manny we will see who they truly are, and to me that is way more attractive.

Every boxer with good potential that will come out in the Philippines will be compared to Pacquiao's achievement it's possible we have up and coming boxers because of the inspiration brought by Pacquiao to the local Philippine boxers, they can be as good as Pacquiao but to equal what he achieved is almost impossible, they will have to trail what Pacquiao has undergone, they must start in the lowest division like a flyweight division to have a chance to equal the 8 belt championship.

I'm not expecting anyone either to be as good as Pacquiao, but to be a champion is already enough. We already have a lot of Filipino champions that we didn't have before Pacman became popular in boxing, it's a blessing and Pacman was there to help the Filipino boxers that has a potential to get bigger fights under his promotion.

Not only that, Pacman helped his fellow countrymen boxers to be known as one of the best race to lace up in a boxing ring.
It's true, Pacman's achievement is such a tough act to follow, but who knows, even Ancajas has a shot to this, but then again, it takes a lot of sacrifice, talent, and dedication to achieve what Pacquiao has achieved his entire career.

Some information regarding the fight, it can be seen here.
https://champinon.info/schedule/ancajas-vs-martinez/#close

As per the article, the odds of Ancajas is "Ancajas to win: 1/3"... I cannot confirm it since my bookie has not listed the fight yet. By the way, the date in the OP should be changed to February 26.

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Quote from: Questat on February 18, 2022, 08:47:06 AM

Quote from: aioc on February 18, 2022, 12:58:50 AM

Quote from: South Park on February 17, 2022, 04:29:16 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on February 13, 2022, 03:43:51 AM

I go with that mindset. It's better for them to create their own destiny,

Instead of comparing or being the next Pacman, it's much better to be known with a self identity
as long as they are excelling with this sport, pinoy fans will recognize them and idolized them, many
young generations will follow the path that they are journeying right now. Good luck to every pinoy
fighters and continue to work harder.

Exactly, after all even if someone in the future is as good as Manny they are going to be a completely different person, for example I find Manny to be a very likable individual however that does not means that the next star of of Philippines will be the same and will be loved by the public as much as Manny was, so it is better to let boxers to forge their own story, that way instead of a cheap imitation of Manny we will see who they truly are, and to me that is way more attractive.

Every boxer with good potential that will come out in the Philippines will be compared to Pacquiao's achievement it's possible we have up and coming boxers because of the inspiration brought by Pacquiao to the local Philippine boxers, they can be as good as Pacquiao but to equal what he achieved is almost impossible, they will have to trail what Pacquiao has undergone, they must start in the lowest division like a flyweight division to have a chance to equal the 8 belt championship.

I'm not expecting anyone either to be as good as Pacquiao, but to be a champion is already enough. We already have a lot of Filipino champions that we didn't have before Pacman became popular in boxing, it's a blessing and Pacman was there to help the Filipino boxers that has a potential to get bigger fights under his promotion.

Not only that, Pacman helped his fellow countrymen boxers to be known as one of the best race to lace up in a boxing ring.
It's true, Pacman's achievement is such a tough act to follow, but who knows, even Ancajas has a shot to this, but then again, it takes a lot of sacrifice, talent, and dedication to achieve what Pacquiao has achieved his entire career.

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Quote from: Questat on February 18, 2022, 08:47:06 AM

I'm not expecting anyone either to be as good as Pacquiao, but to be a champion is already enough. We already have a lot of Filipino champions that we didn't have before Pacman became popular in boxing, it's a blessing and Pacman was there to help the Filipino boxers that has a potential to get bigger fights under his promotion.

Exactly, even the other races like the Americans and Mexicans who are good at boxing, experts still do not think that the boxers of the current generation will be able to surpass the achievement of Pacman who is the only 8th division champion.

Ancajas can make his country proud by winning fights, and as long as he dedicates his fights to his country, the support of the Filipino fans will always be there.

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Quote from: aioc on February 18, 2022, 12:58:50 AM

Quote from: South Park on February 17, 2022, 04:29:16 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on February 13, 2022, 03:43:51 AM

I go with that mindset. It's better for them to create their own destiny,

Instead of comparing or being the next Pacman, it's much better to be known with a self identity
as long as they are excelling with this sport, pinoy fans will recognize them and idolized them, many
young generations will follow the path that they are journeying right now. Good luck to every pinoy
fighters and continue to work harder.

Exactly, after all even if someone in the future is as good as Manny they are going to be a completely different person, for example I find Manny to be a very likable individual however that does not means that the next star of of Philippines will be the same and will be loved by the public as much as Manny was, so it is better to let boxers to forge their own story, that way instead of a cheap imitation of Manny we will see who they truly are, and to me that is way more attractive.

Every boxer with good potential that will come out in the Philippines will be compared to Pacquiao's achievement it's possible we have up and coming boxers because of the inspiration brought by Pacquiao to the local Philippine boxers, they can be as good as Pacquiao but to equal what he achieved is almost impossible, they will have to trail what Pacquiao has undergone, they must start in the lowest division like a flyweight division to have a chance to equal the 8 belt championship.

I'm not expecting anyone either to be as good as Pacquiao, but to be a champion is already enough. We already have a lot of Filipino champions that we didn't have before Pacman became popular in boxing, it's a blessing and Pacman was there to help the Filipino boxers that has a potential to get bigger fights under his promotion.

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Quote from: South Park on February 17, 2022, 04:29:16 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on February 13, 2022, 03:43:51 AM

I go with that mindset. It's better for them to create their own destiny,

Instead of comparing or being the next Pacman, it's much better to be known with a self identity
as long as they are excelling with this sport, pinoy fans will recognize them and idolized them, many
young generations will follow the path that they are journeying right now. Good luck to every pinoy
fighters and continue to work harder.

Exactly, after all even if someone in the future is as good as Manny they are going to be a completely different person, for example I find Manny to be a very likable individual however that does not means that the next star of of Philippines will be the same and will be loved by the public as much as Manny was, so it is better to let boxers to forge their own story, that way instead of a cheap imitation of Manny we will see who they truly are, and to me that is way more attractive.

Every boxer with good potential that will come out in the Philippines will be compared to Pacquiao's achievement it's possible we have up and coming boxers because of the inspiration brought by Pacquiao to the local Philippine boxers, they can be as good as Pacquiao but to equal what he achieved is almost impossible, they will have to trail what Pacquiao has undergone, they must start in the lowest division like a flyweight division to have a chance to equal the 8 belt championship.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 17, 2022, 05:18:28 PM

Maybe Ancajas is not so popular in the US, might be the reason why bookies are still not covering his fight but i expect that they will put markets for this fight on Friday as that is what they usually do to non-popular boxers outside of the US.

I have checked just now if bookies like Stake.com and Sportsbet.io already listed the fight but unfortunately, not listed yet. Usually, 24-48 hours before the fight on that weight class, they are listing the match.

I also checked the popular Bet365 and no market yet on Ancajas vs Martinez fight.

No choice but to wait tomorrow.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 14, 2022, 06:39:52 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 14, 2022, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Questat on February 14, 2022, 05:10:12 PM

That record is very decent, but look at the record of Martinez as well, he has a good KO rate as well. He only has 13 fights and 8 of that wins are from KO, this kid has potential and it will be a big success for him if he will beat Ancajas.

his record ; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729

With only 13 fights, Martinez has yet to show the boxing community that he has the tools to become a world champion and for sure they knew that his fight with Ancajas is a risky one. Though he have a good knockout ratio but the quality of opponents is the big question mark in his career.

Few more days but still no odds yet on my favorite bookies.

that's right, only the match of brook vs khan is in the immediate lineup of most bookies. is it because of the superflyweight category?? or are they going to include it couple of days before? huh!
just looking at the tale of the tape, you will for sure bet on ancajas here..

Maybe Ancajas is not so popular in the US, might be the reason why bookies are still not covering his fight but i expect that they will put markets for this fight on Friday as that is what they usually do to non-popular boxers outside of the US.

For sure i will bet for my compatriot Ancajas but i wanna see what's the best and logical option first before pushing that bet button.

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Quote from: Pamadar on February 13, 2022, 03:43:51 AM

I go with that mindset. It's better for them to create their own destiny,

Instead of comparing or being the next Pacman, it's much better to be known with a self identity
as long as they are excelling with this sport, pinoy fans will recognize them and idolized them, many
young generations will follow the path that they are journeying right now. Good luck to every pinoy
fighters and continue to work harder.

Exactly, after all even if someone in the future is as good as Manny they are going to be a completely different person, for example I find Manny to be a very likable individual however that does not means that the next star of of Philippines will be the same and will be loved by the public as much as Manny was, so it is better to let boxers to forge their own story, that way instead of a cheap imitation of Manny we will see who they truly are, and to me that is way more attractive.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 14, 2022, 06:39:52 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 14, 2022, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Questat on February 14, 2022, 05:10:12 PM

That record is very decent, but look at the record of Martinez as well, he has a good KO rate as well. He only has 13 fights and 8 of that wins are from KO, this kid has potential and it will be a big success for him if he will beat Ancajas.

his record ; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729

With only 13 fights, Martinez has yet to show the boxing community that he has the tools to become a world champion and for sure they knew that his fight with Ancajas is a risky one. Though he have a good knockout ratio but the quality of opponents is the big question mark in his career.

Few more days but still no odds yet on my favorite bookies.

that's right, only the match of brook vs khan is in the immediate lineup of most bookies. is it because of the superflyweight category?? or are they going to include it couple of days before? huh!
just looking at the tale of the tape, you will for sure bet on ancajas here..

Seeing this, Martinez doesn't have it easy, Ancajas is a boxer who can decide a fight in an instant if he wants to, and I think Martinez knows this, because Ancajas has a good record, but what to do? What criteria to take for a possible bet? If the fight was now, would it be unreasonable to go for Martinez? Since in many forums and information they give Ancajas as the winner? Something that always tends to happen is that the statistics fall, we all know Ancajas' trajectory, but we also know Martinez's scope, I'm sure he won't allow himself to be knocked out, also Martinez's preparation must be at least x3 knowing how it is Ancajas.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 14, 2022, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Questat on February 14, 2022, 05:10:12 PM

That record is very decent, but look at the record of Martinez as well, he has a good KO rate as well. He only has 13 fights and 8 of that wins are from KO, this kid has potential and it will be a big success for him if he will beat Ancajas.

his record ; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729

With only 13 fights, Martinez has yet to show the boxing community that he has the tools to become a world champion and for sure they knew that his fight with Ancajas is a risky one. Though he have a good knockout ratio but the quality of opponents is the big question mark in his career.

Few more days but still no odds yet on my favorite bookies.

that's right, only the match of brook vs khan is in the immediate lineup of most bookies. is it because of the superflyweight category?? or are they going to include it couple of days before? huh!
just looking at the tale of the tape, you will for sure bet on ancajas here..

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Quote from: Questat on February 14, 2022, 05:10:12 PM

That record is very decent, but look at the record of Martinez as well, he has a good KO rate as well. He only has 13 fights and 8 of that wins are from KO, this kid has potential and it will be a big success for him if he will beat Ancajas.

his record ; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729

With only 13 fights, Martinez has yet to show the boxing community that he has the tools to become a world champion and for sure they knew that his fight with Ancajas is a risky one. Though he have a good knockout ratio but the quality of opponents is the big question mark in his career.

Few more days but still no odds yet on my favorite bookies.

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Quote from: yazher on February 14, 2022, 07:41:57 AM

He is really a promising boxer in this era and hopes that he will continue to climb up until he will be recognized as one of the legendary boxers. But before that, he still has lots of rocky roads to cross and every time he beats some opponent, he needs to stay humble as we already know the outcome of the arrogant. they failed to shine even more when they taste their first loss.

I am also rooting for a successful career of Anjacas and this scheduled fight of him against Martinez will supposedly one of the anticipated fight of Anjacas for this year and I am one of the fans who is hoping and wishing for Anjacas success either win it via knockout or unanimous decision. This fighter really has a great future ahead and he is considered as one of the promising boxer in his era, now in this fight all he need to do is to prove his worth through winning the game against Martinez.

For me, the best win is through knockout, however, Martinez is surely a tough opponent so I would be happy already if he would win via split decision as long as he can win and can prove to the world once again that he is a quality fighter and that he deserve a bigger fights in the future.

Every boxer is going to look for a knock out win and hopefully we can see Ancajas accomplishing this one in this fight. Because a knock out win will bolster his status in this weight class and he has a opportunity to face champion that can give him a good paycheck. So if he can do it, then good, but if not but still he manages to take a win I think it will still help him a lot gaining some respect from boxing promoters.

In the end, it still depends on his opponent, the more aggressive his opponent, the higher the chance of Ancajas winning a KO. He has 22 KOs from 33 wins per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/506289, so it's possible that he could score a KO on this one.

That record is very decent, but look at the record of Martinez as well, he has a good KO rate as well. He only has 13 fights and 8 of that wins are from KO, this kid has potential and it will be a big success for him if he will beat Ancajas.

his record ; https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 14, 2022, 04:03:16 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 14, 2022, 03:24:29 PM

Quote from: molsewid on February 14, 2022, 01:17:54 PM

Quote from: yazher on February 14, 2022, 07:41:57 AM

He is really a promising boxer in this era and hopes that he will continue to climb up until he will be recognized as one of the legendary boxers. But before that, he still has lots of rocky roads to cross and every time he beats some opponent, he needs to stay humble as we already know the outcome of the arrogant. they failed to shine even more when they taste their first loss.

I am also rooting for a successful career of Anjacas and this scheduled fight of him against Martinez will supposedly one of the anticipated fight of Anjacas for this year and I am one of the fans who is hoping and wishing for Anjacas success either win it via knockout or unanimous decision. This fighter really has a great future ahead and he is considered as one of the promising boxer in his era, now in this fight all he need to do is to prove his worth through winning the game against Martinez.

For me, the best win is through knockout, however, Martinez is surely a tough opponent so I would be happy already if he would win via split decision as long as he can win and can prove to the world once again that he is a quality fighter and that he deserve a bigger fights in the future.

Every boxer is going to look for a knock out win and hopefully we can see Ancajas accomplishing this one in this fight. Because a knock out win will bolster his status in this weight class and he has a opportunity to face champion that can give him a good paycheck. So if he can do it, then good, but if not but still he manages to take a win I think it will still help him a lot gaining some respect from boxing promoters.

In the end, it still depends on his opponent, the more aggressive his opponent, the higher the chance of Ancajas winning a KO. He has 22 KOs from 33 wins per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/506289, so it's possible that he could score a KO on this one.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 14, 2022, 03:24:29 PM

Quote from: molsewid on February 14, 2022, 01:17:54 PM

Quote from: yazher on February 14, 2022, 07:41:57 AM

He is really a promising boxer in this era and hopes that he will continue to climb up until he will be recognized as one of the legendary boxers. But before that, he still has lots of rocky roads to cross and every time he beats some opponent, he needs to stay humble as we already know the outcome of the arrogant. they failed to shine even more when they taste their first loss.

I am also rooting for a successful career of Anjacas and this scheduled fight of him against Martinez will supposedly one of the anticipated fight of Anjacas for this year and I am one of the fans who is hoping and wishing for Anjacas success either win it via knockout or unanimous decision. This fighter really has a great future ahead and he is considered as one of the promising boxer in his era, now in this fight all he need to do is to prove his worth through winning the game against Martinez.

For me, the best win is through knockout, however, Martinez is surely a tough opponent so I would be happy already if he would win via split decision as long as he can win and can prove to the world once again that he is a quality fighter and that he deserve a bigger fights in the future.

Every boxer is going to look for a knock out win and hopefully we can see Ancajas accomplishing this one in this fight. Because a knock out win will bolster his status in this weight class and he has a opportunity to face champion that can give him a good paycheck. So if he can do it, then good, but if not but still he manages to take a win I think it will still help him a lot gaining some respect from boxing promoters.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 13, 2022, 08:28:22 AM

You can tell it's a wrong decision but he was brave enough to test his limit, and he did the right thing because he gets more popular although his attempt failed. Donaire is now a champion, probably the oldest champion ( correct me if I'm wrong).

Donaire has no rumored fight this year, but for sure there's one coming now that Inoeu and Donaire have no fight scheduled this year yet. It still depends on their promoter, and knowing Top Rank, they want a bigger fight always that their fighter has a good chance of winning, and Donaire should be a good target.

Donaire might be the best fit if in terms of a good money fight, but we never know if they are in plan to discuss this as there's no update yet.

That last fight from these two fighters provides entertainment to the fans, though it was Inoue who shine but we see how Donaire tried his

best shot to beat the young monster. skills wise, Inoue has that edge against our old Nonito. Maybe if ever top rank will choose between

Donaire and Casimero, they will pick Donaire.. Wink

Obviously, they will pick Donaire as revenue-wise Donaire has an advantage over Casimero and Inoue already beat Donaire so there's no reason at all to be afraid of. Besides he is a monster, by the name itself, he should be willing to fight everyone as long as the price is right, if you know what I mean.

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