[Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez - page 11.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 26, 2022, 07:50:28 PM

...maybe they can settle it in Las Vegas or in New York, the last venue of his devastating knockout of Dirrell and for sure he can bring his fans there and so is David, a lot of Latin American might come and watch his fight but I think NY is pro Puerto Rican but who knows.

New York is probably the best location in terms of being neutral for their fans. The place has a lot of Ricans which is probably the reason why Miguel Cotto made it his American homecourt.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 29, 2022, 12:51:15 AM

Now Plant says the following:

Plant wants Benavidez fight “locked in” for first quarter 2023

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Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) is in a situation where he can potentially get a rematch with now undisputed super middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez if he defeats WBC interim 168-lb champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) in a WBC-ordered title eliminator.

Canelo has hinted that he could fight the Plant vs. Benavidez winner, but he hasn’t come right out to say that he will 100% do that.

Some believe that Canelo will fight the winner if it’s Plant, but not if it’s the 26-year-old Benavidez due to the high potential of losing badly to him. Canelo’s career would tank badly if he were to get knocked out by Benavidez, which is why he’s not likely to face him if he beats Plant.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/

Hopefully, we can get a date in the first quarter of next year. I am not sure if they already started their training but I won't be surprised if Plant is into it. Benavidez is a huge guy and is probably eating and drinking a lot this Christmas and the coming New Year which makes March or even as far as April as its possible date.

Canelo will most likely take Plant if he wins. If Benavidez wins and Canelo can't see any weakness then he is likely to move up and take a rematch with Bivol. Although earlier, Canelo already mentioned that a Bivol rematch is his priority. Pretty gutsy but I like it rather than choosing soft oppositions.

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^^ And that is very tricky indeed, if David Benavidez says no, then he will be blame for everything, for the fight not pushing that's for sure. But then again, if they gave in to the demand of Plant, then it's a big psychological win for Team Caleb Plant and will definitely take control of the fight or even the lion share of the purse.

Very difficult now on the part of Benavidez, but I'm thinking that they will make a counter offer as per the article. That's how negotiation should be, other party should compromise as well and not just one side process.

Yeah, Benavidez' camp will negotiate and will provide their counter offer, it's also their right to counter whatever Plant's camp thinks
is good for them, since a two-way negotiations.

Both camps need to adjust and accept or meet in the middle to push this fight, otherwise it would be a biased one and for sure
both camps are after with the money.

Both sides need to have a decent and acceptable share before they will sit and sign the contracts.

But I don't see it as bad about the negotiation, I think the important thing about this is that they come up with the right terms, if this is fixed in the best way, who will be the best? What about Davis? When we see this type of problem, we realize that everything is reduced to money, to everything that can be given as a benefit to their organizations, but where is the meaning of sport here? of boxing? I think the most important thing here is boxing, what can be enjoyed from the fight, that this is what drives everything, the fights are driven by the betting business model, and the more demand there is for it, the better for it all.

Now Plant says the following:

Plant wants Benavidez fight “locked in” for first quarter 2023

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Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) is in a situation where he can potentially get a rematch with now undisputed super middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez if he defeats WBC interim 168-lb champion Benavidez (26-0, 23 KOs) in a WBC-ordered title eliminator.

Canelo has hinted that he could fight the Plant vs. Benavidez winner, but he hasn’t come right out to say that he will 100% do that.

Some believe that Canelo will fight the winner if it’s Plant, but not if it’s the 26-year-old Benavidez due to the high potential of losing badly to him. Canelo’s career would tank badly if he were to get knocked out by Benavidez, which is why he’s not likely to face him if he beats Plant.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/plant-wants-benavidez-fight-locked-in-for-first-quarter-2023/

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

You are right mate, there are so many factors and intangibles in this fight that there are many scenarios just like how you put it. Both wanted to have a piece of Canelo, for Plant his second time, so who knows, he might have leaern from his 1st experience. On the other hand, Canelo Alvarez has been in the mouth of David Benavidez for some time now that we think he can beat Canelo at this point. So it's gonna be interesting how this fight will turn out and who will land that first shot that will change the outcome of the fight.

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That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

Yes, that's right! Both Caleb Plant and David Benavidez badly needed this fight to face Canelo Alvarez. One is to prove himself again that he still got what it takes and the latter is looking forward to face the undisputed champion and carve his name in this very industry because he knows that anyone who can beat the current Canelo will surely be remembered. The young blood sure do have the advantage but I'm still expecting that this fight will be packed with explosive punches from both camps and there's no way they will back an inch.

I think it's more on the young boxer here, David Benavidez who wanted to prove himself against Canelo Alverez. Caleb Plant already lost to Alvarez and so it might be the same outcome in the rematch.

So maybe the pressure on David in this fight, because him and his father has been calling Canelo Alvarez but he just dismisses them. But if David will win here, then Canelo can't no longer ignore Benavidez and he will have to fight him next regardless of what has been said in the past. Specially Canelo saying that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican. And it seems boxing fans here wanted to see David Benavidez to win because of the obvious fight challenge against the champion in Canelo. It's very different since David is very young.

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That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

Yes, that's right! Both Caleb Plant and David Benavidez badly needed this fight to face Canelo Alvarez. One is to prove himself again that he still got what it takes and the latter is looking forward to face the undisputed champion and carve his name in this very industry because he knows that anyone who can beat the current Canelo will surely be remembered. The young blood sure do have the advantage but I'm still expecting that this fight will be packed with explosive punches from both camps and there's no way they will back an inch.

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

For sure, both will bring their best to win the fight. David's intention to call his shot fighting Canelo will have a good enlightenment if he will beat Plant and bring his way to a near chance of making the negotiations to Canelo's camp. On the other hand, Plant also wanted to bring his name back to the top. Beating this hotshot contender will create a good hype and again bring back his winning momentum.

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Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.

Good thing that you mentioned those conditions. Benavidez needs to be wise since he's really aiming to bring his name up. It's not good for him to give the demands and let Plant's camp to dictate this possible upcoming fight, he also need to check all the condition and even he's really aiming for this fight to take place, he also need to consider all the risk and disadvantage in case he will sign the contract where all the demands of Plant's camp are being written without checking and analysing everything.

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Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

True, maybe they can settle it in Las Vegas or in New York, the last venue of his devastating knockout of Dirrell and for sure he can bring his fans there and so is David, a lot of Latin American might come and watch his fight but I think NY is pro Puerto Rican but who knows.

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Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.

Yes, they know that David is flat footed, doesn't have that movement in his feet and so it will be hard for him to catch Plant if Caleb's strategy is to go circle around a bigger ring. And so we are not surprised by that demand of Caleb and his team, they are going to take every advantage they can make here and see how Benavidez will response because he is going to be uncomfortable with a huge ring.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 18, 2022, 05:15:04 AM

Yeah, there could be dates and venue reserved by the promotions, but probably looking for the best place to held this fight. A venue that has a lot of Mexicans as we all know that David Benavidez is Mexican to maximized his exposure and profit as well.

And we will see once the full fight is announced and the date and the venue itself. But it will not change a bit that David will be the favorite here. And I can't wait till the two goes on a face off as there will be a lot of trash talking between the two.

Without a specific date and venue means the deal is not yet 100% sealed. Maybe they're just talking that they already agree with each other or maybe they signed partial contracts which is a good guarantee but not 100%. A venue in Phoenix, Arizona, for instance, the hometown of Benavidez is a good location but I doubt Plant will agree to it. Plant is the one dictating the terms because he knew that Benavidez wanted the big names in the division while he got paid already for his losing effort against Canelo.

Benavidez's power will be too much in this fight but he better stays alert on further Plant demands because it might cost him. A bigger ring means Plant can run and utilize his movements more and if he can also demand the brand of gloves and maybe suggest the list of referees and who knows even the location. A referee that allows Plant to hold and grab is dangerous since Benavidez is not defensively good and he is not used to fighting 12 rounds either which endangers his energy.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 21, 2022, 05:06:07 PM

I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

My take here is Benavidez will not be like that, he loves to engage but he's more skillful than Dirrell so even we see him doing that same
aggressions he can manage to take control.

He will adjust with how Caleb will throw his attack and find the way to exposed him and start throwing solid combinations to create a
good opening.

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Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

Expect that usual reaction, once he realizes that Benavidez can take him down, he might go back to his usual defensive routine.

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Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

True, but it will be a different story once they got into the ring. Specially if you felt the power of one another. It's either you can take it, or decided not to go toe to toe because you might get knock out of knock down. But we shall see between the two, the animosity is real as they have history way before they made their names.

It is normal for both boxers to say that they will beat their opponent of expect a knock out victory because they wanted to hype their fight. Giving hopes for their fans and color to the exchange of statement that will trigger interests of the viewers.

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Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Last time I check, there are no odds yet for this match, but I reckon that Benavidez could be the slight favorite here.

Articles everywhere do states that Benavidez is the favorite and I stumbled on the fanduel odds and they have it as:

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

They say he has a new trainer and made some adjustments and take he is not more technically sound. But so is David, with his father at this side and yeah, Canelo is the plan after all and might be seeing Caleb as just another obstacle that they need to get rid, by whatever means, knockout of decision win.

So Canelo could be watching this fight on the sideline if this is going to be made early.

As we have been saying, we love to see Alvarez vs Benavidez next, and let's see if Canelo doesn't want to fight another Mexican or he will be force to if Benavidez wins here.

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

That is expected because it's already given that David will come prepared against Plant, now I'm curious what Plant will do to be in the limelight again. On the other hand, given that David's true aim is Canelo, then it's safe to say that he won't be giving some advantages to Plant that will push him in the corner. Either way, it's up to Plant and David if how will they play their scenarios to have a upper hand until the fight ends.

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Quote from: terrific on December 22, 2022, 04:47:23 PM

Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Last time I check, there are no odds yet for this match, but I reckon that Benavidez could be the slight favorite here.

Quote from: terrific on December 22, 2022, 04:47:23 PM

Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

True, but it will be a different story once they got into the ring. Specially if you felt the power of one another. It's either you can take it, or decided not to go toe to toe because you might get knock out of knock down. But we shall see between the two, the animosity is real as they have history way before they made their names.

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Are there odds already in the bookies and anyone who had compared them which is the best bookie to have it, if there's any?

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 21, 2022, 12:30:09 PM

I like the rivalry that is generated:

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez

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By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/

Each of them would say that they can beat the sh!t out of their opponent 100%. It usually is the word that they say as they have to be strong even in their words.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 21, 2022, 12:30:09 PM

I like the rivalry that is generated:

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez

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By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/

We can only conclude once the fight already done, for now, the statement is more on attracting fans to show interest with their upcoming fight, there's nothing that can be proved by words, even if you ask Benavidez you will hear the same words, or if you will ask him after reading the article maybe he will throw more trash talks to Plant.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 21, 2022, 05:06:07 PM

I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

Agree! If Plant's strategy got compromised and he will go back to his old style then he might be dominated knowing Benavidez is really aggressive and he can bring Plant lots of aggressive punches that may land to Plants critical areas, it's interesting if how both will showcase their talents once they are already inside the same ring.

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

And so he will be an open book once again if he goes back to his old style, it's also obvious that David's camp has been studying Plant's new techniques/style that he may have picked from his new mentor and the same to his old ways as well. Also, even if we say that Plant has successfully overcome the young blood, what will be his next step? Face Canelo again where his chances are still the same and will lead him to another dead end. Anyway, that's unlikely because this David got the upper hand because of his exemplary skills that might give Canelo some hard time.

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I don't see any improvement on Caleb Plant though, it's really based on who he is going to fight. For the Anthony Dirrell's fight, we see that Dirrell has no respect on Caleb's power and that was his own wrong doing. And so when Caleb throws that left hook, it was perfect and Dirrell just caught it with his face.

Maybe he has a new trainer and probably executing good techniques, but when he goes on another situation that his back is against the wall or has been hit so much, he will go back to his old style.

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Benavidez wanted to go and fight Canelo Alvarez, but the camp of Canelo says no, as they want him to proved himself. So maybe if he beat Plant worst than Canelo beat him, he might gain some respect and could potentially face Alvarez in the future.

If Benavidez punish and knock out Plant as he always does to all his opponent, there will be a clamor for Canelo to fight Benavidez and Canelo cannot ignore that, I figure that Benavidez is an even more dangerous fight for Canelo than Bivol, this is a very important fight for both fighters because they are both top contenders in the division, they will be a step away from another title shot, Benavidez is so powerful and dominant I don't think Caleb can catch up, I love it when he does that shoe shine punches or rapid fire punches, it takes out a lot from his opponent.

Right, but I do think that Canelo will take care of Bivol first, that's probably his primary target for next year after he healed his hand injuries.

On the other hand, Caleb should not look forward for a Canelo fight, he has his hands full against Caleb Plant. Just focus on this task first and let his fist do the talking. If he wins then good, start talking a potential fight with Canelo and then see how it goes.

Well, the truth is, I don't see Canelo very well, personally this boxer tries to do a lot of things taking advantage of the social networks, but I think that has helped him a bit, because sometimes I read his tweets and the things he says and I don't know nothing interesting, everything is as if it were seen that a teenager was the one who was writing it, for me Canelo lacks a lot of maturity, and I think that from the way he is going, Bivol will give him another beating, I see the Russian getting stronger, more focused and for me Canelo has been losing his way a bit and all his direction, well regarding the Caleb fight, I would lean more towards him, but I would need to have more information on both, I don't know how both boxers are doing.

I like the rivalry that is generated:

Caleb Plant says he could stop David Benavidez

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By Craig Daly: Caleb ‘Sweethands’ Plant says, “don’t be surprised” if he knocks out David Benavidez when the two fight in the first quarter of next year in a final WBC super middleweight title eliminator on Showtime.

‘Sweethands’ Plant (22-1, 13 KOs) has made improvements with his punching power with the help of new trainer ‘Breadman’ Edwards, and he’s also more elusive on defense than he was.

Plant is as slippery as an eel but can now administer electric-like incredible, shocking power to his opponents. In Plant’s last fight, he knocked Anthony Dirrell out cold in the ninth round last October.

“Yeah, 100%,” said Caleb Plant to Fight Hub TV when asked if the contracts are signed for his WBC super middleweight title eliminator against David Benavidez in the first quarter of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/caleb-plant-says-he-could-stop-david-benavidez/

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Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.

They wanted to stay away from the other big fighters' schedules to secure their maximum profit because they might conflict with the upcoming fights of more popular boxers as well which will gonna decrease their sales. Anyway, this fight seems gonna be one of the anticipated next year and it would be good if they gonna plan for February because there are no big fights there I think it's fine to have a conflict with one or two fights since their fight is at the other place anyway.

Yes indeed, they just avoiding that to happen as most of the time promoters are after with the money, ticket sales and viewers they all
after that, making the fight away from big fights will give them that confidence.

It's really tough when you will compete other promotions that carry big events that will surely gain fans interest.

We will see updates from them when the fight is nearing to happen, that's for sure.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 17, 2022, 01:32:51 PM

Well, that clears the issue regarding their upcoming fight. It's been revealed already that this fight is already official but I'm leaning on the reasons that they haven't got the right date yet to put the fight. As we all know, organizers will bring the date where they maximize their profit and they are also clearing who will fight in their undercards. Hopefully they can finalize everything before this year ends so that the fans of the respective camps can prepare as well.

They wanted to stay away from the other big fighters' schedules to secure their maximum profit because they might conflict with the upcoming fights of more popular boxers as well which will gonna decrease their sales. Anyway, this fight seems gonna be one of the anticipated next year and it would be good if they gonna plan for February because there are no big fights there I think it's fine to have a conflict with one or two fights since their fight is at the other place anyway.

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