[Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez - page 3.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 16, 2023, 07:18:39 AM

Quote from: Japinat on March 14, 2023, 06:12:56 PM

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

Both fighters are eager to win for a chance to have a shot for Alvarez, winning these fights will give them the hype for their career, for sure both of them are preparing and anticipating how their opponents are adjusting to bring everything once they are already inside the ring, whatever the reason from both fighters they will use it to fight in more inspiring way.

Winning is the goal to bring more opportunity in their career. Whoever will be the winner deserves the credit.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 14, 2023, 06:12:56 PM

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^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.

Caleb Plant at 175? Did he have some plans to climb on that certain weight class because that's quite exciting because if Canelo was embarrassed on his 2nd attempt, what more about Caleb Plant who doesn't have Canelo's skills.

Not yet, but as I have said, he will be too small for that weight category.

Quote from: Japinat on March 14, 2023, 06:12:56 PM

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

Hard to say, maybe mind games, or personal thing for him as we have seen videos of their confrontation years ago. And it seems the Benavidez are hell bent on getting their revenge on Caleb. But the thing is that Caleb saw this as just their antics and so he will be more prepared for this fight just to make sure to shut the mouth of David and his father.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 15, 2023, 11:25:56 AM

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on March 13, 2023, 01:29:09 AM

It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.

Nah, I don't think I will take that. I doubt Caleb Plant will win this match, there are too many speculations now about Canelo versus Benavidez to happen.
That's already a signal of who will win this match.
@1.30 for Benavidez is not that bad though considering all the hype that had been going around. I am expecting lesser like 1.05 - 1.10 which is mostly the case in heavy favorites in this era especially one with a belt.
Not that I am underestimating Caleb but there's too much on the line for Benavidez here to just simply give it to him. Having a shot at the champion will be a wish come true.

I guess so. We've seen enough from Plant against Canelo; he only plays defense. But against a tough fighter and a heavy puncher, his defense will eventually be destroyed in the game. You are right, Canelo vs Benavidez will be a good matchup. Maybe this fight will be unpredictable, as it's hard to predict the winner since both are great boxers.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 13, 2023, 05:10:09 AM

Yup, for those who still believing that Plant can win this one better to take the ML, in boxing we all know that upset can take place and no one
can conclude the possible outcome while the fight is not happening yet.

We can all speculate and provide our own opinions about the fight, most of the time we are basing our conviction with previous fight that we've seen.

But the actual fight or faceoff will decide whether our analysis is right or wrong.

Faceoff brings nothing I have seen guys who try to frighten or bully their opponent only to get knocked out in the fight one example is the Zepeda - Vargas, faceoff is for the photoshoot, and tradition it is when both fighters met in the ring we'll know the chances of each fighter, but we also have to see that there's such a thing as upsets and phantom punches.
It's the punch that boxers did not see coming are the one that hurt them.
In this fight between Caleb Plant and David Benavidez one fighter can have an edge based on analysis but both fighters can deliver a big punch that can knock their opponent out, and I expect a knockout to happen in this fight.

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Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.

I think Caleb Plant doesn't lack of stamina, but he's just don't know what he need to do when the opponent dominating the fight because it's always who dominate the fight since he's mostly win via KO. When he fight with Canelo, Canelo outclass him and he can't think anymore except continuously received multiple punches from Canelo.

This fight Benavidez seems more stronger and will dominating the fight, Plant need to able to control himself when he's not in a good condition.

And it just shows that Canelo is very different, I mean there are rounds that Caleb is dominating him, but he quickly switch off in the middle rounds and that's when Caleb seems confused and wasn't able to adjust to Canelo's aggressiveness.

But it seems that he has learned his lessons from his defeat against Canelo, so we will see if he has a plan B if David uses his physically against him specially if this fight goes to the distance. But then again, as we have said, it will be a tall order for Caleb to win here.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 13, 2023, 02:16:11 AM

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It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.

Nah, I don't think I will take that. I doubt Caleb Plant will win this match, there are too many speculations now about Canelo versus Benavidez to happen.
That's already a signal of who will win this match.
@1.30 for Benavidez is not that bad though considering all the hype that had been going around. I am expecting lesser like 1.05 - 1.10 which is mostly the case in heavy favorites in this era especially one with a belt.
Not that I am underestimating Caleb but there's too much on the line for Benavidez here to just simply give it to him. Having a shot at the champion will be a wish come true.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 15, 2023, 10:10:58 AM

Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.

I think Caleb Plant doesn't lack of stamina, but he's just don't know what he need to do when the opponent dominating the fight because it's always who dominate the fight since he's mostly win via KO. When he fight with Canelo, Canelo outclass him and he can't think anymore except continuously received multiple punches from Canelo.

This fight Benavidez seems more stronger and will dominating the fight, Plant need to able to control himself when he's not in a good condition.

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And as far as Caleb goes:

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“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.

Yeah, fighters that have ample training time will usually train hard and then slow down in the later stages of the camp focusing more on the weight. David is a huge guy at 168 so he is the one that might spend time more on draining and maintaining weight.

Caleb Plant is still 30 so if there's something to improve, it is more about his technical skills which are already good enough. Caleb needs it as it will be very difficult to brawl and fight David in a physical way. I believe David will enter the ring as the bigger and stronger guy. The only problem with Caleb is if he can withstand some of the heavy punches that will land on him and the physicality of David. Caleb may fall just like in the Canelo fight where he was doing well but was finally caught in the late rounds. Caleb needs to be 100% conditioned here in order to move well and be prepared to do it for a 12-round fight.

Yes, this is also what I'm seeing in this fight, David, coming on a LHW or higher and then trying to imposed his physically on the much smaller Caleb Plant. And Caleb might have a good few rounds, early, but when things get rough, he might tired late in the rounds and then Caleb caught up with some good punches and then Caleb slowly getting tired and maybe goes down on his knees with a couple of body shots. Unless he improved his stamina or uses his boxing IQ to just be selective so that he will last longer.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 14, 2023, 05:53:05 PM

And as far as Caleb goes:

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“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.

Yeah, fighters that have ample training time will usually train hard and then slow down in the later stages of the camp focusing more on the weight. David is a huge guy at 168 so he is the one that might spend time more on draining and maintaining weight.

Caleb Plant is still 30 so if there's something to improve, it is more about his technical skills which are already good enough. Caleb needs it as it will be very difficult to brawl and fight David in a physical way. I believe David will enter the ring as the bigger and stronger guy. The only problem with Caleb is if he can withstand some of the heavy punches that will land on him and the physicality of David. Caleb may fall just like in the Canelo fight where he was doing well but was finally caught in the late rounds. Caleb needs to be 100% conditioned here in order to move well and be prepared to do it for a 12-round fight.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 09, 2023, 05:10:30 PM

^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.

Caleb Plant at 175? Did he have some plans to climb on that certain weight class because that's quite exciting because if Canelo was embarrassed on his 2nd attempt, what more about Caleb Plant who doesn't have Canelo's skills.

And for David's perspective towards Plant, it's either he is indeed underestimating the latter just because he failed on his campaign towards Canelo or David was just messing around and playing some mind games with him to distract him from his plans. But that moves may have a consequence because the way I see it, Plant is serious this time and David might be a victim.

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And as far as Caleb goes:

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“This the best Caleb Plant anybody will ever see.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/caleb-plant-this-best-caleb-plant-anyone-ever-see--173090

So yeah, they have might have unwinding their trainers by now, or slowing it down, and maybe focus on making the weight. So watching what food they take, liquids and vitamins and everything that is getting into their system. It's not just the training that they do in the gym, it's more on the outside preparation for their body to be at the best during the fight.

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Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.

The time to sell the fight is over now, and by this time they should have been unwinding their trainings, maybe just few touch ups as they don't want to be over train. They just need to be peaking on the fight itself and after the final weigh-in, rehydrate and focus on the fight and forgot what they have been saying against each other. Because if they focus on it, they might have been affected mentally, specially on what David has been throwing on the side of Plant. Psychological war is part of boxing or any any sports, others call it trash talking. But if boxers can deflect that and just motivate and concentrate on the fight, then that's what separate the good boxers from the elite and high level prize fighters, IMHO.

By now, both camps may have already ended their training sessions because they only have 10 days left for the fight night, as well as the time to market and hype the fight, now is not the time for it. I believe both camps are now finalizing weights for the upcoming weigh-in so that there would be no problem when that day comes, and yes, just a little touch up for their daily routine so that the fire won't burn out and they won't get too tired.

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Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.

The time to sell the fight is over now, and by this time they should have been unwinding their trainings, maybe just few touch ups as they don't want to be over train. They just need to be peaking on the fight itself and after the final weigh-in, rehydrate and focus on the fight and forgot what they have been saying against each other. Because if they focus on it, they might have been affected mentally, specially on what David has been throwing on the side of Plant. Psychological war is part of boxing or any any sports, others call it trash talking. But if boxers can deflect that and just motivate and concentrate on the fight, then that's what separate the good boxers from the elite and high level prize fighters, IMHO.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 13, 2023, 02:16:11 AM

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It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.

Yup, for those who still believing that Plant can win this one better to take the ML, in boxing we all know that upset can take place and no one
can conclude the possible outcome while the fight is not happening yet.

We can all speculate and provide our own opinions about the fight, most of the time we are basing our conviction with previous fight that we've seen.

But the actual fight or faceoff will decide whether our analysis is right or wrong.

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Quote from: Kasabus on March 12, 2023, 10:39:02 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 07:44:15 PM

Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

I think that is what Caleb Plant is trying to see here, he consider it just a antics from David's camp, maybe to sell the fight. So with such statement from him, he wouldn't be deterred on the contrary he might channel what he sees on Benavidez and try to beat him on his own game.

We all know that fighters have pride when they see that they are the underdog in a fight. But again, if he could channel that negativity and uses it and not thinking about it, then maybe he can upset Benavidez here, just saying.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on March 13, 2023, 01:29:09 AM

It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

The winner of this fight will have a shot at fighting Canelo Alvarez. Of course, Caleb won't be able to win here because a fight between Canelo and Benavidez would generate more hype. For Benavidez, being an aging fighter, it would be good for him to get a big fight before his retirement.

So, for bettors who think that Caleb Plant will win, it might be wise to take the moneyline bet, as it provides decent odds.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 07:44:15 PM

Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

The rank #4 and the rank #5 in the in super middle champion will finally held a fight this March 26. This fight is been waiting by a lot of boxing fans around the world, we all know that both boxers have beef with each other and once for all; they will settle it in this Month. I never thought that plant is very humble and his coolness is really unreal white Benvidez showing his passion to the sport. I sawa the videos of them both, arguing and trashtalking and it seems that both of them are ready to eanter the ring.

It is true that plant is the underdog even though he only lose once to Canelo. Benavidez has high K.O. rate which is 88% while Caleb Plant has only 56% K.O rate. Benevidez also have 0 loss and current have 3 belts. For me it is the reason why he has upper hand in this match. The pressure will be on Caleb plant, both of them are strong fighters and I know that they will fight with their best effort and strength.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2023, 07:44:15 PM

Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

He shouldn't be deterred about David's antics because he is on a crusade to get back and fight Canelo Alvarez again, he should remain calm and let his performance in the upcoming fight do the talk as that is what the people wanted from him especially that many doubted him in this fight. He is an underdog in this fight despite what he did in his career and KO'd Anthony Dirrell just recently in the 9th round.

This will be a good fight, both boxers are targeting the undisputed title holder and that means that they wouldn't give each other an advantage that they would regret as they both know each other's capability.

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Caleb said that he was surprised by Benavidez antics, for him it's just a show and let everyone knows that he is the tougher guy. But Caleb is not deter with all the talks according to him. He will really come full prepared in this fight and as we have said, he seems to rediscovered his punching power, specially with how he knockouts Dirrell with that left hook. Just a couple of days from this fight, the face-off in the weigh-in will be huge for the fans and again we should expect the trash talking specially from David, and Caleb be cool with that or either shows his emotions. Plant is still 3:1 underdog in this fight.

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^^ Any fight has it's price, Caleb Plant though will be too small for 175 lbs, in my opinion. For David, yes, let's see if he can do what he has been talking about, on how he is going to knock out Plant.

So this is a measuring stick, sort of a gauge on how he can move on his career. I mean, he seems to be underestimating Caleb and disrespecting the guy and hopefully it won't backfire on him. And if he wins this fight convincingly, then his name might be in contention for the Canelo fight. Still up to Canelo on whoever he wanted next.

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