[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia IBF & WBC Welterweight Title - page 4.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 03, 2020, 11:53:02 PM

I guess it's wise if we also do a live betting on this fight, at least in the first few rounds we will see who is dictating the fight, and it's easy for us to take a good odds in case Garcia is dictating the fight since he is the underdog before the fight.

I think of this too. I might try it but should be quick and fast to bet as if Garcia will take early rounds, odds for him might be lowered quickly.

Where do you guys usually place a live betting? Never did this in boxing yet.

The round winner betting option is also tempting but didn't check it yet on the crypto sportsbook. Only see the odds at fiat sportsbook.

I'm not really sure what sportbooks do have live betting. Last time I bet during the Lopez vs Loma fight, it was not offered by sportsbet.io because I wanted to change some bet because I'm seeing Lopez to be the winner in the next coming rounds.

A lot of good analysis on this fight as we gets closer, Spence now @1.20, and Garcia @4.40 ML.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2020, 04:12:37 PM

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The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

So I'm not expecting any upset.

So, how about about the statement of Angel Garcia, Danny's father that his son would knock-out cold Spence in the seventh round, don't you believe that? I don't believe that either because Errol Spence has one of the toughest chin in the business so with that i think this coming fight would go to the distance and it would be good to put a small chunk to Garcia to win by decision.

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“Danny’s gotta go out there and knock him out,” Angel Garcia told BoxingScene.com before their press conference Wednesday. “I think Danny’s gonna knock him out. I’m gonna say seventh round, Danny’s knocking him out with an overhand right. He’s dropping Spence – I’m gonna tell you right now. People are gonna be shocked. I’m not gonna be shocked. It’s nothing new to me.”

Angel Garcia's statement is just to put some hype in the fight. And every fight on his son, he always trash talk, so I'm not even taking that into consideration.

His son fought high level fighters in Thurman and Porter and he said the same, his son is going to knockout both of them but look at how the fight ended. It was very close, no knock down happen and they lost the fight. And since Danny is stepping again against an elite fighter in Spence, I'm not seeing him knocking him down in seventh round or in the fight. It will go to the judges score card again with Danny losing a close decision.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 03, 2020, 11:53:02 PM

I guess it's wise if we also do a live betting on this fight, at least in the first few rounds we will see who is dictating the fight, and it's easy for us to take a good odds in case Garcia is dictating the fight since he is the underdog before the fight.

I think of this too. I might try it but should be quick and fast to bet as if Garcia will take early rounds, odds for him might be lowered quickly.

Where do you guys usually place a live betting? Never did this in boxing yet.

The round winner betting option is also tempting but didn't check it yet on the crypto sportsbook. Only see the odds at fiat sportsbook.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 03, 2020, 11:31:30 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on December 03, 2020, 06:58:48 PM

Quote from: ReiMomo on December 02, 2020, 11:42:19 PM

Both fighters as I see ere even on their statistics it could only be luck that will make either of them would nail this fight bot for some reasons due to the accident that happened with Spence it would definitely have an impact on his performance this time.

I supposed if not physical it could still affect him psychologically, like the eagerness to prove to everyone that the accident doesn't change him which may be caused him to be overwhelmed by Garcia. I'm positive that this match will be in favor of Garcia so I will be placing my bet on him.

That might the game changer with this fight.

If Spence will take it seriously and fight without being aggressive to prove something this fight is statistically equal, they are both good and capable of finishing the fight with explosive blows, anything can happened not an easy to tell who's getting the advantage.

Spence though can adjust in the game. It he see the Garcia is overly aggressive then he will be on the defense. Or if he wanted to be the aggressor then he can also implement that game plan.

The one thing that all of us wanted to see is how good Spence after the accident. If he is affected mentality then it will be a factor for him losing this fight. And I also wanted to see if Garcia can hit Spence cleanly and how he will react to it. I agree that Spence chin has not been tested that's why I wanted Garcia's left hook to touch that and see if he will buckle down, Lol.

I guess it's wise if we also do a live betting on this fight, at least in the first few rounds we will see who is dictating the fight, and it's easy for us to take a good odds in case Garcia is dictating the fight since he is the underdog before the fight.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 03, 2020, 06:58:48 PM

Quote from: ReiMomo on December 02, 2020, 11:42:19 PM

Both fighters as I see ere even on their statistics it could only be luck that will make either of them would nail this fight bot for some reasons due to the accident that happened with Spence it would definitely have an impact on his performance this time.

I supposed if not physical it could still affect him psychologically, like the eagerness to prove to everyone that the accident doesn't change him which may be caused him to be overwhelmed by Garcia. I'm positive that this match will be in favor of Garcia so I will be placing my bet on him.

That might the game changer with this fight.

If Spence will take it seriously and fight without being aggressive to prove something this fight is statistically equal, they are both good and capable of finishing the fight with explosive blows, anything can happened not an easy to tell who's getting the advantage.

Spence though can adjust in the game. It he see the Garcia is overly aggressive then he will be on the defense. Or if he wanted to be the aggressor then he can also implement that game plan.

The one thing that all of us wanted to see is how good Spence after the accident. If he is affected mentality then it will be a factor for him losing this fight. And I also wanted to see if Garcia can hit Spence cleanly and how he will react to it. I agree that Spence chin has not been tested that's why I wanted Garcia's left hook to touch that and see if he will buckle down, Lol.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2020, 04:12:37 PM

So, how about about the statement of Angel Garcia, Danny's father that his son would knock-out cold Spence in the seventh round, don't you believe that? I don't believe that either because Errol Spence has one of the toughest chin in the business so with that i think this coming fight would go to the distance and it would be good to put a small chunk to Garcia to win by decision.

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“Danny’s gotta go out there and knock him out,” Angel Garcia told BoxingScene.com before their press conference Wednesday. “I think Danny’s gonna knock him out. I’m gonna say seventh round, Danny’s knocking him out with an overhand right. He’s dropping Spence – I’m gonna tell you right now. People are gonna be shocked. I’m not gonna be shocked. It’s nothing new to me.”

Nothing to worry about Danny's father though, he was always like that, big mouth brandishing about his son, until one day, they lost to Thurman and Angel has somewhat become soft spoken, LOL.

So I will not take that into account when doing analysis of the fight, after all when the bell rang, it's only the two that are going to dance inside the ring, Angel can't help his son. But Danny is heavy handed though and let's see if Spence's chin has hold against the potent left hook.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 03, 2020, 04:12:37 PM

So, how about about the statement of Angel Garcia, Danny's father that his son would knock-out cold Spence in the seventh round, don't you believe that? I don't believe that either because Errol Spence has one of the toughest chin in the business so with that i think this coming fight would go to the distance and it would be good to put a small chunk to Garcia to win by decision.

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“Danny’s gotta go out there and knock him out,” Angel Garcia told BoxingScene.com before their press conference Wednesday. “I think Danny’s gonna knock him out. I’m gonna say seventh round, Danny’s knocking him out with an overhand right. He’s dropping Spence – I’m gonna tell you right now. People are gonna be shocked. I’m not gonna be shocked. It’s nothing new to me.”

I don't know if Spence's chin has really been tested enough to know how good it really is. Porter who is not the biggest puncher landed some big shots that had Spence looking a little drunk. Garcia is much more heavy handed and Spence can't afford to take those type of power punches against him. There is no question about Garcia's chin. He has fought Matthysse who had one of the biggest KO percentages and Garcia had no problems in that fight. He's also faced Thurman and Khan who had decent power and couldn't really hurt him.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on December 02, 2020, 11:42:19 PM

Both fighters as I see ere even on their statistics it could only be luck that will make either of them would nail this fight bot for some reasons due to the accident that happened with Spence it would definitely have an impact on his performance this time.

I supposed if not physical it could still affect him psychologically, like the eagerness to prove to everyone that the accident doesn't change him which may be caused him to be overwhelmed by Garcia. I'm positive that this match will be in favor of Garcia so I will be placing my bet on him.

That might the game changer with this fight.

If Spence will take it seriously and fight without being aggressive to prove something this fight is statistically equal, they are both good and capable of finishing the fight with explosive blows, anything can happened not an easy to tell who's getting the advantage.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 03, 2020, 06:51:04 PM

Quote from: Natalim on December 02, 2020, 05:41:53 PM

I like what Spence said, he is a warrior and he like to fight a boxer that would test his skills as a boxer.
I think he deserve a big fight if he beat Garcia in this fight, and people would be shouting his name vs Crawford, this fight is a big blowout for us.

Being feeling like a warrior is totally useless if his body won't cooperate. He is might be seeing a physically fit from now but no way his internal can recover 100% in a horrible accident that was just over a year ago. Sportsbook even gave him a 1.7 odds by decision against Garcia although he's a big name because of that reason.

Spence owned Garcia in all statistics. If no accident happened, there is no doubt that Spence will be the favorites and we can expect a landslide win for Spence. But things have changed because of that accident so Garcia should take that as an advantage to finally achieved his long-time target.

With your statement, does it mean you favor Garcia to win here?

It's really not surprising that gamblers will always use the car accident of Spence a year ago as a basis of their bet, but they have their point, and besides this fight is unpredictable though we have the favorites and that is normal, but yes, Garcia has a shot here, who knows, it could even be a KO by him.

well, that's another big news, an undefeated fighter beaten by Garcia and he will sure get a good fight after this, either Manny or Crawford, he'll take it but I guess Manny would be his man as he will make good money if that fight happen.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 02, 2020, 05:41:53 PM

I like what Spence said, he is a warrior and he like to fight a boxer that would test his skills as a boxer.
I think he deserve a big fight if he beat Garcia in this fight, and people would be shouting his name vs Crawford, this fight is a big blowout for us.

Being feeling like a warrior is totally useless if his body won't cooperate. He is might be seeing a physically fit from now but no way his internal can recover 100% in a horrible accident that was just over a year ago. Sportsbook even gave him a 1.7 odds by decision against Garcia although he's a big name because of that reason.

Spence owned Garcia in all statistics. If no accident happened, there is no doubt that Spence will be the favorites and we can expect a landslide win for Spence. But things have changed because of that accident so Garcia should take that as an advantage to finally achieved his long-time target.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

Yes, good luck to your bet above @1.70 is very attractive indeed.

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My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

Good analysis, Spence is also coming from a car accident and it could affect his punching power. And Danny is really very motivated to take take 0 away from Spence so I think he will try to fight until the last bell. And Garcia always fell short on his championship fight, first to Thurman and then Porter.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

So I'm not expecting any upset.

This though, we can't really say for certain. We already have one of the biggest upset already. So it's possible that we can have before the end of the year.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

So I'm not expecting any upset.

So, how about about the statement of Angel Garcia, Danny's father that his son would knock-out cold Spence in the seventh round, don't you believe that? I don't believe that either because Errol Spence has one of the toughest chin in the business so with that i think this coming fight would go to the distance and it would be good to put a small chunk to Garcia to win by decision.

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“Danny’s gotta go out there and knock him out,” Angel Garcia told BoxingScene.com before their press conference Wednesday. “I think Danny’s gonna knock him out. I’m gonna say seventh round, Danny’s knocking him out with an overhand right. He’s dropping Spence – I’m gonna tell you right now. People are gonna be shocked. I’m not gonna be shocked. It’s nothing new to me.”

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

Nice one, I like your analysis, the last time Spence fought, he was not able to KO his opponent, and Danny Garcia has never been KO in his career as a boxer, so your prediction really make sense.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

So I'm not expecting any upset.

I can tell, but mate, I believe it's either win by Spence on decision or Garcia to win by KO.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

I will say that it is a good bet.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2020, 04:08:29 AM

My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

So I'm not expecting any upset.

Perhaps he hasn't been touch, but I would say that in the Thurman fight, he was hit solidly by Thurman but didn't buckle a bit, and it was really a close fight but the judges awarded the fight to Thurman. The same with the Porter, he was accurate, but Shawn is the busy fighter and that's what the judges saw, he wasn't knock out or knock down, but we all know that Shawn, can't even crack an egg, Lol.

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The odds for a Spence winning by decision is still very attractive, boosted to @1.79. I already place my bet, not waiting as it might go down a bit.

My rationale is that Danny Garcia, hasn't been knock-out and it will be hard pressed for Errol to do that. And one advantage of Spence is that Garcia doesn't have any head movement, so he can hit it but Danny's has a good chin as well so for me there will be no knock out here, and probably Spence will be a unanimous or split decision winner here.

So I'm not expecting any upset.

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Both fighters as I see ere even on their statistics it could only be luck that will make either of them would nail this fight bot for some reasons due to the accident that happened with Spence it would definitely have an impact on his performance this time.

I supposed if not physical it could still affect him psychologically, like the eagerness to prove to everyone that the accident doesn't change him which may be caused him to be overwhelmed by Garcia. I'm positive that this match will be in favor of Garcia so I will be placing my bet on him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 02, 2020, 05:15:29 PM

Spence on why he take Danny Garcia:

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“I didn’t want a tune-up,” Spence told BoxingScene.com. “First, I feel like a tune-up wasn’t gonna get me anywhere. Secondly, I feel like a tune-up wasn’t gonna answer questions from people that need to be answered. And thirdly, I feel like Danny Garcia would look great on my resume, beating him.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-tune-up-fight-wasnt-gonna-answer-questions-answered--153694

Sign of a true warrior, taking a big risk fight after his life threatening car accident. So we will have to see if this risk will pay off big this weekends. The odds doesn't change though, still Spence is 1-4 favourite to win the fight.

Good odds, another possible upset, Grin

I like what Spence said, he is a warrior and he like to fight a boxer that would test his skills as a boxer.
I think he deserve a big fight if he beat Garcia in this fight, and people would be shouting his name vs Crawford, this fight is a big blowout for us.

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Spence on why he take Danny Garcia:

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“I didn’t want a tune-up,” Spence told BoxingScene.com. “First, I feel like a tune-up wasn’t gonna get me anywhere. Secondly, I feel like a tune-up wasn’t gonna answer questions from people that need to be answered. And thirdly, I feel like Danny Garcia would look great on my resume, beating him.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-tune-up-fight-wasnt-gonna-answer-questions-answered--153694

Sign of a true warrior, taking a big risk fight after his life threatening car accident. So we will have to see if this risk will pay off big this weekends. The odds doesn't change though, still Spence is 1-4 favourite to win the fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 25, 2020, 08:17:03 PM

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And this is what I'm waiting, an interview with Angel Garcia and his animated take on his son's fight against Spence, hehehe

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“At the end of the day I… can’t judge him (Spence),” Angel said on the Bridge Bizness podcast. “I know he’s supposed to be 100% when he comes. I just want the fans the people to understand that when Danny becomes champion Dec. 5, I don’t want to hear no bullcrap, no excuses. When Danny had bad decisions with (Keith) Thurman and (Shawn) Porter we didn’t cry the blues. I didn’t blame Danny. he didn’t blame me. We sucked it up. We still here.

“Dec. 5 he gonna shock the world again. Danny is 7 to 1 (underdog), go get rich!”

https://www.boxingscene.com/angel-garcia-i-dont-want-hear-no-bullcrap-danny-beats-spence--153520

So let's see if his son can back it up against Spence here. And I think a lost by Danny could mean that he is just a gate keeper, as he always falls on big time fights for not letting his hands go in championship rounds.

7 to 1 seems far too wide in my opinion. It's been a while since Garcia has been in a meaningful fight but we have not seen any signs of him being in decline and he still has that big left hook. Spence didn't show the best defense in his last fight against a lesser puncher than Garcia. I think Danny has a very good chance of pulling the upset if Spence is diminished by the car accident.

It's just an exaggeration on Angel Garcia's part, it's currently 4-1, last time I checked.

The problem with Danny Garcia is that when he fought the best, Thurman and Shawn Porter he seems to be very competitive but faded in the later rounds. Yes, big left hook but he needs to be consistent and throw more because this is going to be a competitive fight and it goes to the judges scorecard then he might lost a split decision just because the judges didn't see him throwing more punches.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 25, 2020, 08:17:03 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 25, 2020, 05:04:40 PM

And this is what I'm waiting, an interview with Angel Garcia and his animated take on his son's fight against Spence, hehehe

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“At the end of the day I… can’t judge him (Spence),” Angel said on the Bridge Bizness podcast. “I know he’s supposed to be 100% when he comes. I just want the fans the people to understand that when Danny becomes champion Dec. 5, I don’t want to hear no bullcrap, no excuses. When Danny had bad decisions with (Keith) Thurman and (Shawn) Porter we didn’t cry the blues. I didn’t blame Danny. he didn’t blame me. We sucked it up. We still here.

“Dec. 5 he gonna shock the world again. Danny is 7 to 1 (underdog), go get rich!”

https://www.boxingscene.com/angel-garcia-i-dont-want-hear-no-bullcrap-danny-beats-spence--153520

So let's see if his son can back it up against Spence here. And I think a lost by Danny could mean that he is just a gate keeper, as he always falls on big time fights for not letting his hands go in championship rounds.

7 to 1 seems far too wide in my opinion. It's been a while since Garcia has been in a meaningful fight but we have not seen any signs of him being in decline and he still has that big left hook. Spence didn't show the best defense in his last fight against a lesser puncher than Garcia. I think Danny has a very good chance of pulling the upset if Spence is diminished by the car accident.

It seems like what we are looking is that car accident Spence have suffered, why can't we compare their skills and power too? kidding...
Yeah, I would love to be on Garcia because Spence got seriously injured on that accident and maybe there's a negative effect.

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