[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia IBF & WBC Welterweight Title - page 5.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 25, 2020, 05:04:40 PM

And this is what I'm waiting, an interview with Angel Garcia and his animated take on his son's fight against Spence, hehehe

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“At the end of the day I… can’t judge him (Spence),” Angel said on the Bridge Bizness podcast. “I know he’s supposed to be 100% when he comes. I just want the fans the people to understand that when Danny becomes champion Dec. 5, I don’t want to hear no bullcrap, no excuses. When Danny had bad decisions with (Keith) Thurman and (Shawn) Porter we didn’t cry the blues. I didn’t blame Danny. he didn’t blame me. We sucked it up. We still here.

“Dec. 5 he gonna shock the world again. Danny is 7 to 1 (underdog), go get rich!”

https://www.boxingscene.com/angel-garcia-i-dont-want-hear-no-bullcrap-danny-beats-spence--153520

So let's see if his son can back it up against Spence here. And I think a lost by Danny could mean that he is just a gate keeper, as he always falls on big time fights for not letting his hands go in championship rounds.

7 to 1 seems far too wide in my opinion. It's been a while since Garcia has been in a meaningful fight but we have not seen any signs of him being in decline and he still has that big left hook. Spence didn't show the best defense in his last fight against a lesser puncher than Garcia. I think Danny has a very good chance of pulling the upset if Spence is diminished by the car accident.

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And this is what I'm waiting, an interview with Angel Garcia and his animated take on his son's fight against Spence, hehehe

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“At the end of the day I… can’t judge him (Spence),” Angel said on the Bridge Bizness podcast. “I know he’s supposed to be 100% when he comes. I just want the fans the people to understand that when Danny becomes champion Dec. 5, I don’t want to hear no bullcrap, no excuses. When Danny had bad decisions with (Keith) Thurman and (Shawn) Porter we didn’t cry the blues. I didn’t blame Danny. he didn’t blame me. We sucked it up. We still here.

“Dec. 5 he gonna shock the world again. Danny is 7 to 1 (underdog), go get rich!”

https://www.boxingscene.com/angel-garcia-i-dont-want-hear-no-bullcrap-danny-beats-spence--153520

So let's see if his son can back it up against Spence here. And I think a lost by Danny could mean that he is just a gate keeper, as he always falls on big time fights for not letting his hands go in championship rounds.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 24, 2020, 05:01:34 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 24, 2020, 04:21:54 PM

Garcia on being an underdog,

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“When I’m not the underdog, I don’t feel right,” insists Garcia. “I’m right where I want to be… this is definitely the energy I like. It’s the chip I like to have on my shoulder. It’s like I’m proving myself all over again.

https://www.boxingscene.com/danny-garcia-im-not-underdog-i-feel-right--153488

Like most betting underdogs, they love their odds, as it to motivate themselves to really fight hard and show their mettle specially Garcia against the top dogs of Welterweight right now. He is very prepared for this fight and I do hope he can back up his words here.

It's a good thing that he embraces the fact that he is the underdog of this fight and make this as a motivation to came out on top when they face each other in two weeks time.

To be honest bro, i'm not betting for Garcia on beating Spence because he is that good but rather of the rust and injury of the latter which will degrade (don't know if it is the right term) his performance come fight night.

But Spence is still undefeated here bro, do you see a big upset in this fight?

I think if Garcia would want to win here, he should KO spence which is hard to do, that's only to make sure that he wins in the eyes of the judges because Spence vs Crawford is going to be the fight that they might sell so soon, after this fight maybe if Garcia will fail.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 24, 2020, 04:21:54 PM

Garcia on being an underdog,

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“When I’m not the underdog, I don’t feel right,” insists Garcia. “I’m right where I want to be… this is definitely the energy I like. It’s the chip I like to have on my shoulder. It’s like I’m proving myself all over again.

https://www.boxingscene.com/danny-garcia-im-not-underdog-i-feel-right--153488

Like most betting underdogs, they love their odds, as it to motivate themselves to really fight hard and show their mettle specially Garcia against the top dogs of Welterweight right now. He is very prepared for this fight and I do hope he can back up his words here.

It's a good thing that he embraces the fact that he is the underdog of this fight and make this as a motivation to came out on top when they face each other in two weeks time.

To be honest bro, i'm not betting for Garcia on beating Spence because he is that good but rather of the rust and injury of the latter which will degrade (don't know if it is the right term) his performance come fight night.

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Garcia on being an underdog,

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“When I’m not the underdog, I don’t feel right,” insists Garcia. “I’m right where I want to be… this is definitely the energy I like. It’s the chip I like to have on my shoulder. It’s like I’m proving myself all over again.

https://www.boxingscene.com/danny-garcia-im-not-underdog-i-feel-right--153488

Like most betting underdogs, they love their odds, as it to motivate themselves to really fight hard and show their mettle specially Garcia against the top dogs of Welterweight right now. He is very prepared for this fight and I do hope he can back up his words here.

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We will see if Spence is still a beast and on top of the welterweight food chain together with Crawford. Danny Garcia is no push over, so again he is a good and live underdog again. Of course am I fan of Crawford, but this pandemic has really change a lot of boxers mind, specially him coming from that accident, a career and life threatening. So we will see in the first few rounds if Danny can pull another boxing upset this 2020.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 23, 2020, 02:51:48 AM

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2020, 08:48:07 PM

People are expecting a Spence - Crawford match in the future and we'll see if that's going to happen after this match.

This is want boxing fans around the world wanted to see, Crawford who just won over Brook vs Spence, two of the best welterweight we have right now. And this is the reason why somewhat this hasn't attracted. Of course, we all wanted to see how Spence is after the injury, but if there is no effect on him and then he demolishes Garcia then everyone will be clamouring for a Crawford vs Spence next, there should be no excuses.

I like to see that happen soon, after the Crawford vs Spence, which I'm not certain which side I would bet, for sure whoever wins this fight deserves a Manny Pacquiao and that's going to be a big fight, and hopefully that time the pandemic is already over.

Of the Welterweight division, i put Crawford on top and if ever Crawford and Spence would meet in the future then most likely my bet would go to the former but politics in boxing have keep Crawford's potential at bay, Bob Arum should release this guy to the limelight.

Back to the topic, Errol Spence i think would still win this one but just like what others have said, the injury might have an effect on him and the long layoff might contribute so a Garcia bet is not far on me

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 23, 2020, 02:19:07 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2020, 08:48:07 PM

People are expecting a Spence - Crawford match in the future and we'll see if that's going to happen after this match.

This is want boxing fans around the world wanted to see, Crawford who just won over Brook vs Spence, two of the best welterweight we have right now. And this is the reason why somewhat this hasn't attracted. Of course, we all wanted to see how Spence is after the injury, but if there is no effect on him and then he demolishes Garcia then everyone will be clamouring for a Crawford vs Spence next, there should be no excuses.

I like to see that happen soon, after the Crawford vs Spence, which I'm not certain which side I would bet, for sure whoever wins this fight deserves a Manny Pacquiao and that's going to be a big fight, and hopefully that time the pandemic is already over.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2020, 08:48:07 PM

People are expecting a Spence - Crawford match in the future and we'll see if that's going to happen after this match.

This is want boxing fans around the world wanted to see, Crawford who just won over Brook vs Spence, two of the best welterweight we have right now. And this is the reason why somewhat this hasn't attracted. Of course, we all wanted to see how Spence is after the injury, but if there is no effect on him and then he demolishes Garcia then everyone will be clamouring for a Crawford vs Spence next, there should be no excuses.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 22, 2020, 08:11:06 PM

Time to bump this thread as it's just two weeks from now. Current odds at sportsbet.io

I don't think it gives justice to Danny Garcia's left hook though, for me this is a exciting fight and Danny has a fighting chance if he prepared 110% against a rusty Spence Jr coming from a car accident.

PBC Fight Camp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyUvbE25_1w - Episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZ3brY0Ucs - Episode 2

This is a big opportunity for Danny Garcia because a long lay off plus an accident can have an impact on Errol Spence, we'll see that in the early pace of the round or when Garcia connect his punch, this is also a very important match for Spence, so he can show to the world if the accident and the long lay off made an impact on his fighting style.
People are expecting a Spence - Crawford match in the future and we'll see if that's going to happen after this match.

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Time to bump this thread as it's just two weeks from now. Current odds at sportsbet.io

I don't think it gives justice to Danny Garcia's left hook though, for me this is a exciting fight and Danny has a fighting chance if he prepared 110% against a rusty Spence Jr coming from a car accident.

PBC Fight Camp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyUvbE25_1w - Episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZ3brY0Ucs - Episode 2

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 22, 2020, 06:17:23 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on September 22, 2020, 05:45:38 PM

Errol Spence Jr is a professional boxer who can think logically, if indeed the injury has not healed completely, surely Spence refused play boxing against Garcia. I am sure the injuries from car accident are healed,

You might have forgotten that Spence is sometimes arrogant.

He was offered against a boxer in a low tier but he didn't accept it. Therefore, disregarding if he was 100% healed or not, he wants to show the world that he can take the like of Garcia despite the accident he was involved in. If he wins, that would be a great recognition. That's what he's thinking for sure and not because he feels fully healed now.

Garcia on the other hand should not feel comfortable as one lucky punch can give him a fatal blow. He should treat Spence as the same fierce boxer before the accident. He should not hesitate on giving Spence his deadly punch.

This is the fight where he can prove to the world that the accident does not affect his body at all, he is still the same Spence before the incident. Can't wait to see this but I'm sure betting on Garcia is also worth in this fight as Spence hasn't prove yet, a great boxer has some weakness as well as this is the weakness of Spence we are seeing, hopefully we are wrong.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on September 22, 2020, 05:45:38 PM

Errol Spence Jr is a professional boxer who can think logically, if indeed the injury has not healed completely, surely Spence refused play boxing against Garcia. I am sure the injuries from car accident are healed,

You might have forgotten that Spence is sometimes arrogant.

He was offered against a boxer in a low tier but he didn't accept it. Therefore, disregarding if he was 100% healed or not, he wants to show the world that he can take the like of Garcia despite the accident he was involved in. If he wins, that would be a great recognition. That's what he's thinking for sure and not because he feels fully healed now.

Garcia on the other hand should not feel comfortable as one lucky punch can give him a fatal blow. He should treat Spence as the same fierce boxer before the accident. He should not hesitate on giving Spence his deadly punch.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on September 22, 2020, 05:45:38 PM

Spence's car accident made some people unsure if Spence could beat Garcia in the boxing ring. Because there is still a possibility
that Spence's injury will not fully heal, but I have a different opinion regarding this. Errol Spence Jr is a professional boxer who can
think logically, if indeed the injury has not healed completely, surely Spence refused play boxing against Garcia. I am sure the injuries
from car accident are healed, and Spence can give his best against Garcia later. I bet on Spence's win, because in quality Spence is still
above Garcia.

And the only way to proved his detractors wrong is fighting a dangerous Danny Garcia here. And we can't say if it's fully heal until we see him in the square ring and look for signs that he has completely change, like his movement, the power behind his punch etc. So there is a legitimacy to the claims that it can really affect him either mentally or physical, but if he is really an elite fighter then he can shake it off and rise to the occasion and beat a game Danny Garcia.

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Spence's car accident made some people unsure if Spence could beat Garcia in the boxing ring. Because there is still a possibility
that Spence's injury will not fully heal, but I have a different opinion regarding this. Errol Spence Jr is a professional boxer who can
think logically, if indeed the injury has not healed completely, surely Spence refused play boxing against Garcia. I am sure the injuries
from car accident are healed, and Spence can give his best against Garcia later. I bet on Spence's win, because in quality Spence is still
above Garcia.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on September 21, 2020, 04:59:15 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 20, 2020, 07:40:50 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on September 20, 2020, 06:49:35 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 18, 2020, 01:57:20 PM

Danny Garcia's strength is in his left hook which is very deadly, so Spence must be careful in anticipating the left hook.
I believe Spence can handle attacks from Garcia, because Spence is a tactical and calculating boxer. So based on my
prediction that Spence should beat Garcia, I can't wait for another 2 months, to immediately see the fight between these
two boxers.

We can only say that once they've meet inside the ring, but yes once the fighter learns those potential threats from
his opponents, anticipating and worked it out gives him the advantage If Spence will find the counter and not to allow
Garcia to take him with this deadly left hook then he's going to take him down.

Spence as the favorites but not everyone is convinced that Spence will win in this fight since the accident happen to Spence was still fresh in their minds and they believe there was a big impact on him.

Some predictions says Spence will lose if the accident impacted him.

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/29554923/experts-debate-expect-errol-spence-jr-vs-danny-garcia-wins

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Kim: Honestly, I'm not sure. When considering the welterweights before the car accident, I thought Spence and Terence Crawford were head and shoulders above the rest of the pack. Now, we really don't know what version of Spence exists. He got thrown out of his car and suffered a broken jaw, among other injuries.

It cant really be avoided for people to presume nor include these factors for someones winning percentage or chances in spite on being a good boxer.The said injury was still quite new but i doubt that its already enough for him to recover or healed up completely but we wouldnt know if he's already on the right condition.Would this be a valid reason for him to be on the handicapped side? No it wont.

Spence is clearly the heavy favorite on here but my bet would belong to Garcia this time and it is worth to put up some bucks.Adjustments would be made from both parties yet
its impossible that they havent discover on each everyones weakness and and strenghts.

Theyre pretty much aware with those flaws and weapons.

we will see if that accident will indeed affect the performance of Spence inside the ring. will garcia take advantage of the situation at hand? both will be interesting to watch as they are both good fighters. just wondering why spence accepted this match this early? is he really ready to rumble inside the ring?

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Quote from: mirakal on September 20, 2020, 07:40:50 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on September 20, 2020, 06:49:35 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 18, 2020, 01:57:20 PM

Danny Garcia's strength is in his left hook which is very deadly, so Spence must be careful in anticipating the left hook.
I believe Spence can handle attacks from Garcia, because Spence is a tactical and calculating boxer. So based on my
prediction that Spence should beat Garcia, I can't wait for another 2 months, to immediately see the fight between these
two boxers.

We can only say that once they've meet inside the ring, but yes once the fighter learns those potential threats from
his opponents, anticipating and worked it out gives him the advantage If Spence will find the counter and not to allow
Garcia to take him with this deadly left hook then he's going to take him down.

Spence as the favorites but not everyone is convinced that Spence will win in this fight since the accident happen to Spence was still fresh in their minds and they believe there was a big impact on him.

Some predictions says Spence will lose if the accident impacted him.

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/29554923/experts-debate-expect-errol-spence-jr-vs-danny-garcia-wins

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Kim: Honestly, I'm not sure. When considering the welterweights before the car accident, I thought Spence and Terence Crawford were head and shoulders above the rest of the pack. Now, we really don't know what version of Spence exists. He got thrown out of his car and suffered a broken jaw, among other injuries.

It cant really be avoided for people to presume nor include these factors for someones winning percentage or chances in spite on being a good boxer.The said injury was still quite new but i doubt that its already enough for him to recover or healed up completely but we wouldnt know if he's already on the right condition.Would this be a valid reason for him to be on the handicapped side? No it wont.

Spence is clearly the heavy favorite on here but my bet would belong to Garcia this time and it is worth to put up some bucks.Adjustments would be made from both parties yet
its impossible that they havent discover on each everyones weakness and and strenghts.

Theyre pretty much aware with those flaws and weapons.

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Quote from: Questat on September 18, 2020, 07:27:56 AM

Here's what Porter's take on this fight.

Shawn Porter breaks down Errol Spence vs Danny Garcia

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Porter says this is a fight Spence should win, being a more dynamic boxer.

you can also watch the 3+ minutes video inside the story.

Porter should know since he have fought both fighters, he won against Garcia and lose against Spence.

We can't really disagree with Porter though, since he has fought for the fighter and won a closely fight against Garcia. And maybe what he meant by Spence being a dynamic fighter is that Spence was able to adjust against Porter style, while Garcia, didn't and I would say that Garcia during the Porter fight faded in the late rounds and wasn't able to adjust to Porter's aggressive as compare to Spence who beat Porter on his own gain.

Porter just don't know how to adjust, he is the same boxer from round one until the end of the fight as he is very aggressive as a fighter, he keeps attacking and actually I love his fight with Spence and for some reason I was convince that he had won that fight, but you know, the judges makes the final decision so we are gonna respect that.

Porter is a brawler, he is not that technically sound boxer that's why he can't really adjust in the middle of the rounds. What he did to win against Danny Garcia though, is too keep the pace and really pressure Garcia specially in the latter to the championships round and that what enough to push to win in judges scorecard.

But against Spence, it is very different, although he constantly pressure Spence specially in the early round, Spence adjusted and even fight him toe to toe, didn't cover that much, but maintaining a distance and it needed fight Porter at his own fight, which is fighting in the inside.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 20, 2020, 06:49:35 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 18, 2020, 01:57:20 PM

Danny Garcia's strength is in his left hook which is very deadly, so Spence must be careful in anticipating the left hook.
I believe Spence can handle attacks from Garcia, because Spence is a tactical and calculating boxer. So based on my
prediction that Spence should beat Garcia, I can't wait for another 2 months, to immediately see the fight between these
two boxers.

We can only say that once they've meet inside the ring, but yes once the fighter learns those potential threats from
his opponents, anticipating and worked it out gives him the advantage If Spence will find the counter and not to allow
Garcia to take him with this deadly left hook then he's going to take him down.

Spence as the favorites but not everyone is convinced that Spence will win in this fight since the accident happen to Spence was still fresh in their minds and they believe there was a big impact on him.

Some predictions says Spence will lose if the accident impacted him.

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/29554923/experts-debate-expect-errol-spence-jr-vs-danny-garcia-wins

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Kim: Honestly, I'm not sure. When considering the welterweights before the car accident, I thought Spence and Terence Crawford were head and shoulders above the rest of the pack. Now, we really don't know what version of Spence exists. He got thrown out of his car and suffered a broken jaw, among other injuries.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 18, 2020, 01:57:20 PM

Danny Garcia's strength is in his left hook which is very deadly, so Spence must be careful in anticipating the left hook.
I believe Spence can handle attacks from Garcia, because Spence is a tactical and calculating boxer. So based on my
prediction that Spence should beat Garcia, I can't wait for another 2 months, to immediately see the fight between these
two boxers.

We can only say that once they've meet inside the ring, but yes once the fighter learns those potential threats from
his opponents, anticipating and worked it out gives him the advantage If Spence will find the counter and not to allow
Garcia to take him with this deadly left hook then he's going to take him down.

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