[ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 44.

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I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.

Who would watch a wilder vs Fury 4 if Fury will win in this third fight?
I also think there will be no more fight between them, there is nothing to prove anymore, in fact people believe that Fury got robbed in the first fight.

Maybe they should make a "best-of-5" series? Fury vs Wild fourth fight will turn their rivalry into Santa Barbara.
I think 3 fights are enough. Who would like to watch Wilders fancy outfit and excuses (in case he losses) or bad words about Fury, and Fury making fun out of Wilder for another time? Audience will lose interest to them...

Besides there are other heavyweight fighters to fight or to watch.

Fight 3 is enough if Fury will end the rivalry, but if Wilder will win, I think they'll go for the money again, more money this time for sure, and slowly Wilder fans will put their confidence on him again and I think Wilder might be the favorite again, back to the top before he will retire.

If Wilder would able to tie it up on this 3rd fight then high chances that there would be a 4th one where this would be decision making bout which would prove out which of them is the best.
I would definitely see the hype is much more higher than into this trilogy but i dont really hope that much that he can beat up Fury on this upcoming fight unless if he do made up
some good counter or tactics then its possible but if he would still box on the same style just like on their previous fight then the winner is already somewhat anticipated.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on April 29, 2020, 06:22:58 AM

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 28, 2020, 10:56:33 AM

I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.

Who would watch a wilder vs Fury 4 if Fury will win in this third fight?
I also think there will be no more fight between them, there is nothing to prove anymore, in fact people believe that Fury got robbed in the first fight.

Maybe they should make a "best-of-5" series? Fury vs Wild fourth fight will turn their rivalry into Santa Barbara.
I think 3 fights are enough. Who would like to watch Wilders fancy outfit and excuses (in case he losses) or bad words about Fury, and Fury making fun out of Wilder for another time? Audience will lose interest to them...

Besides there are other heavyweight fighters to fight or to watch.

Fight 3 is enough if Fury will end the rivalry, but if Wilder will win, I think they'll go for the money again, more money this time for sure, and slowly Wilder fans will put their confidence on him again and I think Wilder might be the favorite again, back to the top before he will retire.

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Quote from: Vaculin on April 29, 2020, 01:46:49 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on April 28, 2020, 10:56:33 AM

I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.

Who would watch a wilder vs Fury 4 if Fury will win in this third fight?
I also think there will be no more fight between them, there is nothing to prove anymore, in fact people believe that Fury got robbed in the first fight.

Maybe they should make a "best-of-5" series? Fury vs Wild fourth fight will turn their rivalry into Santa Barbara.
I think 3 fights are enough. Who would like to watch Wilders fancy outfit and excuses (in case he losses) or bad words about Fury, and Fury making fun out of Wilder for another time? Audience will lose interest to them...

Besides there are other heavyweight fighters to fight or to watch.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 28, 2020, 10:56:33 AM

I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.

Who would watch a wilder vs Fury 4 if Fury will win in this third fight?
I also think there will be no more fight between them, there is nothing to prove anymore, in fact people believe that Fury got robbed in the first fight.

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I also think Wilder could lose the fight against Fury. If the event could take place, there is talk that it could be in October, for the fight to take place. It should be an event with spectators. The last fight raised $ 17m ticket sales and without the fans, there is no business.

'The fans in the last fight put in almost $17m into the coffers in the purchase of tickets… how do you replace that?': Tyson Fury's trilogy bout with Deontay Wilder may have to 'wait a couple more months' beyond October so it's safe for spectators, warns Bob Arum.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8240271/Tyson-Fury-vs-Deontay-Wilder-III-October-safe-fans-says-Bob-Arum.html

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I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.

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the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.

It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here.

I wouldn't say it's his last chance, well to regain his belt at least. But he can continue to box again even if he losses in the trilogy. Might not be the same pay check though, as obviously he is no longer the champion. He can work his way up again, probably 2-3 years down to line and make himself the top contender again. For me, it is going to be more on the preparation of the mind more than his body. If in his mind says that he longer have it if he losses this fight, then maybe he will retire.

Last chance to remain in the top.. he needs to beat Fury, that way he will reclaim his belt and he will get bigger fights in the future.
Wilder has gone in a lot of battle, he KO's most of his opponents, so he really has that kind of positive mentality, he always go for a kill though.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 27, 2020, 01:09:46 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on April 26, 2020, 06:36:41 PM

the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.

It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here.

I wouldn't say it's his last chance, well to regain his belt at least. But he can continue to box again even if he losses in the trilogy. Might not be the same pay check though, as obviously he is no longer the champion. He can work his way up again, probably 2-3 years down to line and make himself the top contender again. For me, it is going to be more on the preparation of the mind more than his body. If in his mind says that he longer have it if he losses this fight, then maybe he will retire.

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Quote from: ene1980 on April 26, 2020, 06:36:41 PM

the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.

It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 26, 2020, 05:46:15 PM

his very impressive body movement, that makes Wilder to struggle hitting his target, seems like Fury has been the Kryptonite of Wilder. Grin

The impressive footwork and body movements and weaving is the the biggest difference, you cannot find a fighter who moves like a lighter wight fighter with a huge frame, all of the fights Wilder had in the past were stationary targets and he was able to land the heavy punch but with Fury he was not able to land the decisive punch even though he was able to land in the first fight Fury was able to absorb that, the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.

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Quote from: South Park on April 26, 2020, 02:07:47 PM

if you look at most of his KOs you will see he knocks people out while he is the one going forward and his opponent is going backwards and Fury is not going to allow that to happen.

yes, that is correct, actually he only struggles against Fury as Fury can take his punches and he has a better strategy to beat him.
Fury is bigger and taller than him, so Fury is just playing his game right, and with his very impressive body movement, that makes Wilder to struggle hitting his target, seems like Fury has been the Kryptonite of Wilder. Grin

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Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.

I don't think this would happen, Wilder is not a fighter who loves to clinch as he is looking for his shot, while Fury would not allow a short distance since he will impose his reach and without his Jab and good head movement, he will be able to hit Fury and score, even if he can't knock him again.

That's just my opinion though, things could be different in the ring, and just like most of us thinking that Fury would still win, we could be wrong as no one really know what would happen come this fight night.

Clinching is definitely not on the best interests of Wilder, you could see during the second fight that Fury leaned on very heavily on Wilder when they clinched, this is a very old tactic in which the heavier fighter tries to wear down the stamina of his opponent, and quite frankly it seemed to have an effect on Wilder.

So what should Wilder do in order to try to win the third fight? Since it is really difficult he is going to learn how to box at a high enough level in such a short amount of time to match Fury’s skill level my opinion is that he should learn how to unleash to power of his right hand while going backwards and with a small amount of space, if you look at most of his KOs you will see he knocks people out while he is the one going forward and his opponent is going backwards and Fury is not going to allow that to happen.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 24, 2020, 04:44:33 AM

This fight will be move to October 3, this year according to the article I read.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/677648/boxing-news-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-date-start-time-coronavirus-pandemic/

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Fury vs Wilder 3: Date and time
Fury is slated to fight Wilder for the third time next after the Bronze Bomber took up his rematch clause.

The date and location of the bout has not officially been confirmed yet and was expected to be held at the MGM Grand again on July 18.

That has had to be changed due to the ongoing issues surrounding the pandemic and the fight is now reportedly set to take place on October 3 in Las Vegas again.

More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again.

Yes more time to prepare or just delaying the inevitable. Sometimes fights that are postpone put a lot of mental stress specially if you are the one chasing and wanting to make a big revenge win in the case of Wilder. Maybe he is taking the training lightly and not to push himself and overtrain. So many variables right now because of this pandemic that really affected a lot of sporting events. But then again, if Wilder shows the same self, no adjustment and just really on his power, then I guess it will be the same result.

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Wait? What? Do you have friends inside on telling such thing?..(Joke).

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Well that supposedly drinking spree when he won against Klitschko was really to start of Fury's downward spiral isn't it? He went from a world champion to absolute rubbish, drinking and taking drugs and the people behind him that time are not looking for his best interest. And now that he has a second coming, yes it's ok to celebrate after a big win against Wilder, but put yourself in his shoes, do you think that he will go back to his old habits? I mean he was given the second chance here, logical people won't even go back to their old self. And as I have said, it seems that this time, the team behind him are far more better in making a decision for Fury, specially his wife and family. So I do hope that with this lockdown he will remain sober and think about his future.

This is actually true yet for sure he had made some realizations back to that day and with his current standing and reputation for sure he
wont make the same thing and instead would be focused more on his career.Its isnt bad to hangout and make some celebration but
it should really need up some moderation.

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More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again.

Thanks for the update and that would really hurt that much if he would still lose in second time.

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This fight will be move to October 3, this year according to the article I read.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/677648/boxing-news-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-date-start-time-coronavirus-pandemic/

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Fury vs Wilder 3: Date and time
Fury is slated to fight Wilder for the third time next after the Bronze Bomber took up his rematch clause.

The date and location of the bout has not officially been confirmed yet and was expected to be held at the MGM Grand again on July 18.

That has had to be changed due to the ongoing issues surrounding the pandemic and the fight is now reportedly set to take place on October 3 in Las Vegas again.

More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again.

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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late Cheesy

That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight .

Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol. My fearless forecast for this fight is that it won't be like the second where Fury annihilated Wilder from the start. Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.

But if that's the case then why wouldn't or couldn't the fight be a draw? If it's a boring one then it easily could be, unless Wilder just goes on the defensive but that isn't going to win him the fight unless he can finally KO Fury at some point this time. If Wilder wants his belts back then he's going to have to go all out because he's unlikely to win on points... or the fight could end in another draw.

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People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts.

That's why I am equally excited about how each of their team is planning on the most clever of strategies this time around. I think Wilder was feeling very superior, invulnerable even, in their first match. With an unblemished hell of a record, he must have thought everything is a walk in the park. This upcoming 3rd match, and after his bubble was burst in the 2nd, he's going to be feeling the opposite, for sure.

He did seem like he went in to the fight like it was no big deal but then quickly realised it was. I'd be surprised if he makes the same mistakes again. He knows he can't do that. Hopefully Fury doesn't go into this fight thinking he it will be a breeze again either. They've both got a long time to prepare for it though but hopefully neither of them will slack off.

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But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

Wow, that is a very interesting, 26+ odds, I think I will have to check that.. by the way, what sports book you are using?

Can you share it here, I like to verify the odds, so I can put my bet.

Mate, I was talking about their previous match. Cheesy

Here it is, anyway:

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 23, 2020, 03:58:24 AM

Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late Cheesy

That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight .

Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts.

That's why I am equally excited about how each of their team is planning on the most clever of strategies this time around. I think Wilder was feeling very superior, invulnerable even, in their first match. With an unblemished hell of a record, he must have thought everything is a walk in the park. This upcoming 3rd match, and after his bubble was burst in the 2nd, he's going to be feeling the opposite, for sure.

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I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol.

Precisely! That's probably one of the main reasons why the draw odds in the 2nd match ballooned. That was next to impossible. In a match-up like that, you better give the restless fans a controversial split or an equally controversial majority decision rather than give them a 2nd consecutive draw. That would be unbearably off taste.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 23, 2020, 05:19:48 PM

Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.

I don't think this would happen, Wilder is not a fighter who loves to clinch as he is looking for his shot, while Fury would not allow a short distance since he will impose his reach and without his Jab and good head movement, he will be able to hit Fury and score, even if he can't knock him again.

That's just my opinion though, things could be different in the ring, and just like most of us thinking that Fury would still win, we could be wrong as no one really know what would happen come this fight night.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 23, 2020, 04:53:47 AM

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 23, 2020, 03:58:24 AM

Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late Cheesy

That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight .

Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol. My fearless forecast for this fight is that it won't be like the second where Fury annihilated Wilder from the start. Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 23, 2020, 04:53:47 AM

Quote from: stadus on April 23, 2020, 04:29:23 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on April 23, 2020, 03:58:24 AM

Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late Cheesy

That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight .

Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 23, 2020, 04:53:47 AM

But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Cheesy

Wow, that is a very interesting, 26+ odds, I think I will have to check that.. by the way, what sports book you are using?

Can you share it here, I like to verify the odds, so I can put my bet.

I check on https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Boxing/Boxing%20Matches - but no betting for draw.
while no betting odds in playbetr and sportsbet.io.

I don't know about bitcoin sportsbooks but 26+ odds for the draw on regular ones probably isn't unusual. I think it was around that for the last fight. You'll be able to get 20/1 at least.

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