These boxers are eager to go to war As well as Wilder says, I wish him the best of luck because a second knocked out that he receives for Tyson Fury can be devastating.
Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 47. (Read 6756 times)
April 15, 2020, 04:57:33 AM
April 14, 2020, 06:15:54 PM
However, in the Fury fight, he was very light and Tyson is very skilled and technical and added that power in his punches that Wilder can't negate with his one punch.
Tyson was really skilled, but if he only hit Fury, that fight could have a different outcome, the good thing about Fury is even though he is a big ma, he is fast as well, his head movement is very good so that really confuse Wilder as he is just looking for that one punch. In the first fight, we saw that Wilder were able to drop Fury, so there is really a power, but in the 2nd fight, Fury did improve and avoided getting him while start to be aggressive and that surprise Wilder.
April 14, 2020, 06:06:06 PM
I watched majority of the fights Wilder was in recently and till now he was fighting the same style without any major changes, even in the Ortiz fight he was getting punched but Wilder got the opportunity to land the knockout punch and we have to remember Ortiz was 40 years old when they faced, with age your reflex goes down and when he fought a sound technical boxer Wilder was exposed. Until Fury goes off the track and start abusing his body again there is no way Wilder is beating Fury.
Exactly mate, he was winning fights because he has that one punch KO and that style is very effective for him. Although he was hit in the Ortiz fight, he manage to come back, I don't think he has a iron chin, it's that he wasn't hit really square in the chin. However, in the Fury fight, he was very light and Tyson is very skilled and technical and added that power in his punches that Wilder can't negate with his one punch.
April 14, 2020, 05:41:52 PM
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I think that even if Wilder had the pedigree that Fury has, he'd still be no match, simply because he's always going to be a puncher.
If Wilder started boxing at a very young age he would have a good base which is defense, Wilder is not having any defense and his only way of boxing is offense and wait for the knockout punch but if he touches anyone clean then he is going down.I think that even if Wilder had the pedigree that Fury has, he'd still be no match, simply because he's always going to be a puncher.
The only reason Wilder has been so successful is because of his unorthodox punches, had he been drilled properly like Anthony Joshua, those unorthodox punches would have been drilled out before he even hit the pros. They leave him wide open, and I doubt he would have the technical ability to make up for it.
I watched majority of the fights Wilder was in recently and till now he was fighting the same style without any major changes, even in the Ortiz fight he was getting punched but Wilder got the opportunity to land the knockout punch and we have to remember Ortiz was 40 years old when they faced, with age your reflex goes down and when he fought a sound technical boxer Wilder was exposed. Until Fury goes off the track and start abusing his body again there is no way Wilder is beating Fury. April 14, 2020, 04:17:12 PM
I would say that Wilder should really improve his defense compared to their previous fight.You can really saw that he almost took all shots that made him slowly go down.
The problem here is that Wilder started boxing at the age of 20 and he became a world class champion simply because of his power punching and he is not even a polished boxer like a boxer who started boxing at a young age and for someone to think that Wilder will learn boxing at the age of 34 is really harsh in my opinion 
.Im impressed on Fury's reflexes in spite of being a big guy he do able to dodge out jabs which is really an advantage.
Fury started boxing at a very young age and he is coming from a boxing family and he is known for his reflexes even with his huge frame and in the rematch he knew the best way to beat a heavy puncher is the Kronk way which Emanuel Steward made famous.The boxer almost always beats the puncher. Deontay Wilder is a big guy and he can punch, but that's just not enough against Fury.
I think that even if Wilder had the pedigree that Fury has, he'd still be no match, simply because he's always going to be a puncher.
The only reason Wilder has been so successful is because of his unorthodox punches, had he been drilled properly like Anthony Joshua, those unorthodox punches would have been drilled out before he even hit the pros. They leave him wide open, and I doubt he would have the technical ability to make up for it.
April 14, 2020, 02:13:24 PM
I would say that Wilder should really improve his defense compared to their previous fight.You can really saw that he almost took all shots that made him slowly go down.
The problem here is that Wilder started boxing at the age of 20 and he became a world class champion simply because of his power punching and he is not even a polished boxer like a boxer who started boxing at a young age and for someone to think that Wilder will learn boxing at the age of 34 is really harsh in my opinion .Im impressed on Fury's reflexes in spite of being a big guy he do able to dodge out jabs which is really an advantage.
Fury started boxing at a very young age and he is coming from a boxing family and he is known for his reflexes even with his huge frame and in the rematch he knew the best way to beat a heavy puncher is the Kronk way which Emanuel Steward made famous. April 14, 2020, 01:34:59 PM
But if Fury continues to outbox him then there is no question that he will be winning again and this time it will bury the hatchet on this two.
The same would happen if Wilder will not try to pressure the champion, if he seek for revenge, he must improve and he needs to be aggressive in this fight as he has the power to KO an opponent.
You are probably right, during their latest match you can see a defensive and a hesitant Deontay Wilder on the right which is totally different compared to what we see when he box other weaker opponents. Wilder needs to focus on what he is strong at and don't be eaten out on how fast Fury is since this is where he eats his punches the most. He needs to fight Wilder toe-to-toe and not wait for him and hope he can block his punches.
April 14, 2020, 12:23:05 PM
The same would happen if Wilder will not try to pressure the champion, if he seek for revenge, he must improve and he needs to be aggressive in this fight as he has the power to KO an opponent.
Im impressed on Fury's reflexes in spite of being a big guy he do able to dodge out jabs which is really an advantage.Also, movements or combo of wilder is
predictable imho, you can saw that after two or 3 jabs it do follows some powershot after that. This is one of the main problem i do saw.
April 14, 2020, 11:57:53 AM
The gap between the voters going for a Fury win here in the poll is getting bigger.
That made me think of betting more on Wilder to win, you know.. "betting against the public", that's a classic strategy of a gambler.
But if Fury continues to outbox him then there is no question that he will be winning again and this time it will bury the hatchet on this two.
The same would happen if Wilder will not try to pressure the champion, if he seek for revenge, he must improve and he needs to be aggressive in this fight as he has the power to KO an opponent.
April 14, 2020, 11:01:31 AM
I predicted that Wilder will win during the previous match and I was wrong so as my prediction with AJ against Andy Ruiz so this time I know it will be hard for me to at least consider anyone this early since heavyweight matches for the top class seems to be getting unpredictable at the moment especially if a lot of them knows how to adjust their game during a rematch. If Wilder adjust and learn from his mistakes from the previous match then this would be an even fight just like what we have watched during the first fight he might even score a KO this time if he is better. But if Fury continues to outbox him then there is no question that he will be winning again and this time it will bury the hatchet on this two.
April 14, 2020, 10:38:18 AM
36 votes in the poll so far
29 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder
Latest poll shows Fury winning by a bigger margin than a few days ago
29 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder
Latest poll shows Fury winning by a bigger margin than a few days ago
April 14, 2020, 09:09:21 AM
you know boxers will adjust and Wilder was a champion for a reason.
Wilder was a champion because his opponents cant hold his one right punch. He won his wbc title from 40 years old Canadian.
He only competed in wbc. For exaple Anthony Joshua looks more like a champ as he hold wbo, ibf and wba titles.
People have different opinion, we have to remember that Joshua looks lost to Ruiz which we are not expecting it will happen.
TBH, if its possible that Joshua and Wilder will fight, I'll definitely put my money to Wilder even if he will again lose in the 3rd match against Fury.
April 14, 2020, 07:48:17 AM
you know boxers will adjust and Wilder was a champion for a reason.
Wilder was a champion because his opponents cant hold his one right punch. He won his wbc title from 40 years old Canadian.
He only competed in wbc. For exaple Anthony Joshua looks more like a champ as he hold wbo, ibf and wba titles.
April 13, 2020, 05:58:53 PM
As a fighter that had lost once then i cant blame for that kind of revenge feeling to the person who had put a mark on your stats.It do really touches out your pride.
He seek for revenge and he knows that his fight with Fury will generate good money, and he needed that in case he'll retire soon as he is not getting any younger, he is not Manny who keeps beating champion even at his age now. April 13, 2020, 05:36:08 PM
Well the 2nd fight sounds very convincing as we saw how Fury was really unto knocking down Wilder and he really did it, but not sure in the fight number 3 if the same thing will happen, you know boxers will adjust and Wilder was a champion for a reason.
2 knockdowns arent really enough to tie up the score when it shows clearly on whose the one have the higher point in most rounds.Its clear to the eyes of people but still it ended up on a draw which is really very shady decision imho but well it didnt matter since Fury able to knocked out Wilder into their 2nd fight.For the 3rd i dont see why they would still push this one and if we do try to compared on how these two box thenthe younger fella do still have that advantage- no need for a trilogy.
April 13, 2020, 05:13:05 PM
This fight will be delayed but will not be cancelled, though maybe you are right that most people don't want to see this 3rd fight, but Wilder only loss once in his career and I think he deserve this as his last chance if the result will be the same, and there are still people who believe in him.
We have seen two fights already and Tyson Fury dominated the first fight even though he got knocked down a couple of times and in the second fight he dominated from the first second till he knocked wilder so that the corner has to throw in the towel if not it would have ended in a knockout either way, the third will be interesting but i would rather watch Joshua and Fury.
Well the 2nd fight sounds very convincing as we saw how Fury was really unto knocking down Wilder and he really did it, but not sure in the fight number 3 if the same thing will happen, you know boxers will adjust and Wilder was a champion for a reason. April 13, 2020, 03:57:09 PM
This fight will be delayed but will not be cancelled, though maybe you are right that most people don't want to see this 3rd fight, but Wilder only loss once in his career and I think he deserve this as his last chance if the result will be the same, and there are still people who believe in him.
We have seen two fights already and Tyson Fury dominated the first fight even though he got knocked down a couple of times and in the second fight he dominated from the first second till he knocked wilder so that the corner has to throw in the towel if not it would have ended in a knockout either way, the third will be interesting but i would rather watch Joshua and Fury. 
April 12, 2020, 09:20:39 PM
Tyson Fury is clear winner for me.
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
Doesn't matter if it happens in time, the outcome will only be the same.
Wilder is getting old, he's around 35 now, which isn't the best age for a heavyweight that relies on speed and explosivity.
I think that the delay will only benefit Fury, since he'll have even long to prepare, while Wilder will only injure his body further in training.
Either way, hopefully the match either gets cancelled or Fury quickly stops Wilder once and for all, nobody wants to see this third.
This fight will be delayed but will not be cancelled, though maybe you are right that most people don't want to see this 3rd fight, but Wilder only loss once in his career and I think he deserve this as his last chance if the result will be the same, and there are still people who believe in him.
There are people who do like or not for this 3rd fight but its already settled but the said date would surely be postponed if this covid wont be solved out upto July onwards.
We know on whose the one does have the edge and as Darkdays said that Wilder is getting old and we know that age does really give out toll on a boxers fighting performance.
As a fighter that had lost once then i cant blame for that kind of revenge feeling to the person who had put a mark on your stats.It do really touches out your pride.
April 12, 2020, 05:35:12 PM
Tyson Fury is clear winner for me.
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
Doesn't matter if it happens in time, the outcome will only be the same.
Wilder is getting old, he's around 35 now, which isn't the best age for a heavyweight that relies on speed and explosivity.
I think that the delay will only benefit Fury, since he'll have even long to prepare, while Wilder will only injure his body further in training.
Either way, hopefully the match either gets cancelled or Fury quickly stops Wilder once and for all, nobody wants to see this third.
This fight will be delayed but will not be cancelled, though maybe you are right that most people don't want to see this 3rd fight, but Wilder only loss once in his career and I think he deserve this as his last chance if the result will be the same, and there are still people who believe in him.
April 12, 2020, 05:22:11 PM
Tyson Fury is clear winner for me.
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
He has bigger heart and he is smarter than Wilder.
Only question I have is will this fight even happen in that time... and I have my doubts because of current condition in the world
Doesn't matter if it happens in time, the outcome will only be the same.
Wilder is getting old, he's around 35 now, which isn't the best age for a heavyweight that relies on speed and explosivity.
I think that the delay will only benefit Fury, since he'll have even long to prepare, while Wilder will only injure his body further in training.
Either way, hopefully the match either gets cancelled or Fury quickly stops Wilder once and for all, nobody wants to see this third.
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