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Topic: [ BOXING FURY WON IN ROUND 6 ]: FURY vs WHYTE - THE FIGHT - page 11. (Read 1778 times)

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Votes in Poll: 22
Fury win: 20
Whyte win: 2
Draw: 0


I voted for Fury and over 90% of the voters in the poll think Fury will win. For those who have not voted, please vote  Grin


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That is what it looks like and it is the general believe.
You shouldn't have said it general belief when we both know that one man's food is another man's poison.

Do not get me wrong on that. I know some people love Whyte and will want him to win but when that opinion or wish is in tiny minority, it means majority want Fury to win. It is the total sum of the majority opinion on this fight that makes me say the general belief. Check out what the poll result is here and then feel what the public says on this one. It is going to be a Fury win.
Ok, now I understand your stance but in another general means universal, and is it impossible for a fighter to have a 100% chance of winning no matter how good he was. The last time I check this will their first professional together and it was logical for most boxing fans to believe Fury will be the winner of the fight but Whyte also had a chance to win until the referee decide the winner.
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After Whyte, he wants the winner of Usyk/AJ and then the Francis Ngannou superfight. That would be a great ending trilogy to Tyson's career.

You think he will end his career after several fights? There is still Joseph Parker that might give Fury some troubles. What about fourth fight against Wilder? That will be hilarious and really humiliating if he wins.

Situation with Fury might turn into situation with Canelo, when there are no more new opponent to beat. With Canelo, there are options to change fighting division, with Fury - doubtfully. That the only option for him to fight, Ruiz for example, looser of Usyk/AJ.
It is difficult to know, I am not sure if Fury has talked about it however while the scenario that you bring is possible at the same time Fury could retire just after winning the unification fight, after all he would have reached the pinnacle of his career and there is nothing more to accomplish, because just as you point out there is no division above him to which he could move, so while I would like to see Fury for a long time, we could see an early retirement as well.
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That is what it looks like and it is the general believe.
You shouldn't have said it general belief when we both know that one man's food is another man's poison.

Do not get me wrong on that. I know some people love Whyte and will want him to win but when that opinion or wish is in tiny minority, it means majority want Fury to win. It is the total sum of the majority opinion on this fight that makes me say the general belief. Check out what the poll result is here and then feel what the public says on this one. It is going to be a Fury win.
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Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now.

Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
The truth is that the one that is holding all the cards and the power is Fury, he is the champion and the one every recognizes as the best heavyweight boxer at the moment, an unification fight is on sight and we could get it as soon as the end of this year, Fury does not really need this fight and most likely it is just a way to keep himself busy until we see who is the one that wins between Usyk and Joshua.

That's what we call A-side in boxing, he is the champion, so he has all the bargaining power in the negotiation and will get the lion share of the split, PPV.

So Whyte will sign the current contract, is he getting the money that he wanted? No, but he does not have the leverage to change it, so either he accepts or he will have to wait for a very long time before having another shot for a championship.

I don't think that Whyte has some leverage here, although the split is not kinda fair, but again, he can't complain and should be happy that at least he has a crack on the best HW boxers and could be getting a good pay check. And yeah, the opportunity might not come along again.
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The truth is that the one that is holding all the cards and the power is Fury, he is the champion and the one every recognizes as the best heavyweight boxer at the moment, an unification fight is on sight and we could get it as soon as the end of this year, Fury does not really need this fight and most likely it is just a way to keep himself busy until we see who is the one that wins between Usyk and Joshua.

That's right. This is more like a conditioning fight for Fury. The Joshua-Usyk rematch schedule is yet to be finalized, probably happening in April or even later. After that, both fighters will still undergo some recovery time. That would take more months. So Fury will have to find another opponent to keep his body active while waiting for that possible unification.

It so happened Whyte ended up the one chosen. So Whyte is really lucky he's given the opportunity to fight the champ. And not only will he be receiving the biggest paycheck in his entire career, much more than his net worth, he's also given the opportunity to upset the reigning champion. This is now or never for him so he better be giving his all.
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Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now.

Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
The truth is that the one that is holding all the cards and the power is Fury, he is the champion and the one every recognizes as the best heavyweight boxer at the moment, an unification fight is on sight and we could get it as soon as the end of this year, Fury does not really need this fight and most likely it is just a way to keep himself busy until we see who is the one that wins between Usyk and Joshua.

So Whyte will sign the current contract, is he getting the money that he wanted? No, but he does not have the leverage to change it, so either he accepts or he will have to wait for a very long time before having another shot for a championship.
Take those chances rather than on choosing on waiting up for some long time.It is just an opportunity that knock through the door and dont tend to miss it out even though he knows that winning chance is slim.

We are indeed waiting for that Usyk vs Joshua result and there might be some fight arrangements which would really be that interesting to watch.
In regards with the poll, then i do obviously voted Fury just like on everybody sees about advantage and that edge.
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Votes in Poll: 21
Fury win: 20
Whyte win: 1
Draw: 0


Almost all the voters in the poll say Fury will win and I cannot say that was a surprise. Still keep the votes coming in  Grin
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Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now.

Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
The truth is that the one that is holding all the cards and the power is Fury, he is the champion and the one every recognizes as the best heavyweight boxer at the moment, an unification fight is on sight and we could get it as soon as the end of this year, Fury does not really need this fight and most likely it is just a way to keep himself busy until we see who is the one that wins between Usyk and Joshua.

So Whyte will sign the current contract, is he getting the money that he wanted? No, but he does not have the leverage to change it, so either he accepts or he will have to wait for a very long time before having another shot for a championship.
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After Whyte, he wants the winner of Usyk/AJ and then the Francis Ngannou superfight. That would be a great ending trilogy to Tyson's career.

You think he will end his career after several fights? There is still Joseph Parker that might give Fury some troubles. What about fourth fight against Wilder? That will be hilarious and really humiliating if he wins.

Situation with Fury might turn into situation with Canelo, when there are no more new opponent to beat. With Canelo, there are options to change fighting division, with Fury - doubtfully. That the only option for him to fight, Ruiz for example, looser of Usyk/AJ.
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There is no doubting Whyte can pack a punch therefore once inside the ring anything can happen. Just one punch connected well to the opponent can end the fight but not many will have Whyte winning. The thread poll shows 19-1 in favour of Fury.

Regarding the split, Canelo vs Golovkin was 55/45... Joshua vs Parker was around 65-70/30-35.

I think it is usually (but not always) the case that the split is around 70/30. Whyte is not looking at the $7.4 million he is guaranteed, he is looking at 30% of the purse which means he should receive over $12 million. Even at 20% he should be getting $8.2 million and at 25% he should be getting $10.25 million.

There is no doubt Whyte is being forced to fight for a smaller percentage than he deserves.

I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight.
It's quite the split, however nothing out of the ordinary for boxing. While, I'm not saying its right, I'd be willing to step in the ring with Fury for a couple of million. It's a record breaking amount I believe, which means despite his split being low in terms of percentage, it's still a large amount of money. I don't know what Whyte has made in past fights, but I can't imagine it being bigger than what he's getting from this fight, and if it was then it wouldn't be by much.

Fury should have an easy night, but you never know with Fury. He has demonstrated before that in lesser opponents he tends to get hit a lot more, and doesn't seem as motivated. See the Wallin fight, unless I'm actually discrediting Wallin there, and he's actually better than a lot of people think. Though, I do think Fury underestimated that fight, and on the night despite winning pretty much convincingly could have gone about it a safer way. If he does that against Whyte then there's definitely a potential knockout on the cards.
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I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight.
It's quite the split, however nothing out of the ordinary for boxing. While, I'm not saying its right, I'd be willing to step in the ring with Fury for a couple of million. It's a record breaking amount I believe, which means despite his split being low in terms of percentage, it's still a large amount of money. I don't know what Whyte has made in past fights, but I can't imagine it being bigger than what he's getting from this fight, and if it was then it wouldn't be by much.

Fury should have an easy night, but you never know with Fury. He has demonstrated before that in lesser opponents he tends to get hit a lot more, and doesn't seem as motivated. See the Wallin fight, unless I'm actually discrediting Wallin there, and he's actually better than a lot of people think. Though, I do think Fury underestimated that fight, and on the night despite winning pretty much convincingly could have gone about it a safer way. If he does that against Whyte then there's definitely a potential knockout on the cards.
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none.

In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.

He'll sign it before the deadline. There's no way he's walking away from this fight over a little extra cash. He's just trying to squeeze some more juice out of it which is what I would do in his position so I can't blame him. He won't get this opportunity again and it's more than just cash on the line as the belts are up for grabs so he's just playing hardball whilst he can. Like most I don't believe he will trouble Fury but you never know with boxing. Even a good performance from Whyte will gain him some fans though and up his stock for future fights.

One thing I'm excited for about Tyson is he's actively seeking all the fights I want him to and mentioned earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cS-3f702A

After Whyte, he wants the winner of Usyk/AJ and then the Francis Ngannou superfight. That would be a great ending trilogy to Tyson's career.
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I respect Whyte for coming back from the shock defeat to Povetkin and winning the rematch with style but Fury is way ahead in teems of power and skills. Techincally, Whyte is not even close to being in the same league as Fury and if he will lose this fight he should try his best to try to get a bigger share of the purse.

I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight.

In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.

That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter.
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In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.

That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter.

If I were Fury's trainer I would not advise Fury to go comfortable with Whyte, this is boxing anything can happen in a fight I would not want Fury to have a mentality of Joshua where he feels comfortable going against Andy Ruiz Jr., and look what happen he got the biggest surprised of his life, a 100% Fury can beat against a well-conditioned and 100% Whyte, but if he will go to the fight at 50% he is risking his title and record.
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That is what it looks like and it is the general believe.
You shouldn't have said it general belief when we both know that one man's food is another man's poison. Although, Fury is a great fighter but he came out of a bad situation, rebuild himself and he's now a champ I think thats also the story of Whyte now.
I think we should underestimate him while will overestimate Fury since they are once a friend and probably have some weaknesses about each other.

I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him.
Thats what I once believe but after since last fight with Povetkin I see something different and that why I believe he's still has a chance against Fury.
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In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.

That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter.
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none.

In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.


Like you, I'm 100% sure he'll sign the contract or he will regret this for the rest of his life every heavyweight would like to be in his position right now, fighting for millions of dollars and having a chance to fight the undisputed heavyweight champion, even if he is not getting a good percentage, that's one way to motivate yourself that you'll get more if you beat Fury, the odds are too huge, but if Ruiz did, it why not Whyte
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none.

In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.

If Whyte drags this out past 21st February 2022 without returning a signed contract to the WBC all the while Fury is making it clear he is sticking to financial arrangements imposed by the WBC, then Whyte will be stripped of the number contender status and will probably not get another chance. Fury will simply move on to another fighter the WBC award the number one contender title to.

Am sure Whyte will sign the contract before the deadline because he stands to lose more if he does not. Also, he seems like a man who will need that money to sort out bills if we consider how little his last fight made him. He has to understand that his hands are tied here. If he wants to earn better he has to beat Fury in the fight and then stand a chance to call the shots next time as a champ after that. I do not like the split too but there is nothing we can do to change it.
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If Whyte drags this out past 21st February 2022 without returning a signed contract to the WBC all the while Fury is making it clear he is sticking to financial arrangements imposed by the WBC, then Whyte will be stripped of the number contender status and will probably not get another chance. Fury will simply move on to another fighter the WBC award the number one contender title to.

Am sure Whyte will sign the contract before the deadline because he stands to lose more if he does not. Also, he seems like a man who will need that money to sort out bills if we consider how little his last fight made him. He has to understand that his hands are tied here. If he wants to earn better he has to beat Fury in the fight and then stand a chance to call the shots next time as a champ after that. I do not like the split too but there is nothing we can do to change it.
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