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Quote from: hilariousetc on April 16, 2022, 06:38:09 AM

I agree about him not exactly having the gift of the gab, but he could have at least offered some insight or tried to do some mindgames on Fury. It was all just vanilla, but I'm guessing deep down he still doesn't really wanna promote the fight given there's nothing in it for him at this point.

Whyte waited so long for this opportunity, I worry for him that maybe he has waited too long and will go in to this fight half-hearted. He does seem fairly disinterested in the fight and the opportunity to become WBC heavyweight world champion but that could be down to him feeling he was deprived of his real share of the fight.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 16, 2022, 06:38:09 AM

Whether he should retire or not depends on how well he does in this fight. If he gives Fury a hard time I'm sure this will renew interest in him, but I'm not sure that will happen. As for the money, he might feel short changed in regards to what Fury is getting but it's still more than 8 times than what he got from his last fight. It doubles if he wins as well so there's a hell of an incentive. He will have enough money to retire after this fight but boxers seem to go through cash like it's unlimited hence why they end up fighting way past their prime. There's still probably options for him though.

In that case if it is all about finances as far as Whyte is concerned, the best scenario for him would be to defeat Fury and then have the rematch. In that way whether he wins or loses the second fight that would set him up for life but I think the chances of that happening are virtually zero.

Quote from: notblox1 on April 18, 2022, 06:09:13 PM

Only few days are left, and I can't wait to see Tyson Fury fighting again, and you can bet your house he will try to win this fight with a style in his country at Wembley stadium.
Fury has a big reach advantage and odds for him are very low, so I would look for value in some special bets.
I think this fight is just a warm up for long expected fight against Anthony Joshua, this would be much moer interesting to watch and I would again support Fury to win.

You seem sure Fury will face Joshua for a unification fight but in order for that to happen Fury must defeat Whyte and in the other fight Joshua must defeat Usyk. In my opinion it is highly unlikely a Fury vs Joshua unification fight will happen. I think a Fury vs Usyk unification fight is more likely to happen.

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Only few days are left, and I can't wait to see Tyson Fury fighting again, and you can bet your house he will try to win this fight with a style in his country at Wembley stadium.
Fury has a big reach advantage and odds for him are very low, so I would look for value in some special bets.
I think this fight is just a warm up for long expected fight against Anthony Joshua, this would be much moer interesting to watch and I would again support Fury to win.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 15, 2022, 05:22:17 PM

In fairness to Whyte he was never a great orator, he was never gifted in the way say for example Fury is therefore I am not surprised you advised to not watch the interview Grin

Yes it will be the biggest pay day of his career but Whyte feels he was short changed and as you said he will probably not walk away from the fight as the winner. He should retire after this fight knowing he tried his best but it was not good enough.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 15, 2022, 10:06:23 AM

Whyte has finally done a media interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzsEVKC9nEw

It's not really worth watching as he doesn't really say much. I'm guessing either Warren gave in and acquiesced to some of Whyte's demands in exchange for promotion or there was actually something in the contact that required it. It's in Dillian's interests to do something as he'd be a fool to walk away from this fight which we know isn't going to happen. It's still his biggest payday by far and likely will be the last time he gets that sort of money again unless he actually beats Fury which isn't likely to happen.

I agree about him not exactly having the gift of the gab, but he could have at least offered some insight or tried to do some mindgames on Fury. It was all just vanilla, but I'm guessing deep down he still doesn't really wanna promote the fight given there's nothing in it for him at this point. Whether he should retire or not depends on how well he does in this fight. If he gives Fury a hard time I'm sure this will renew interest in him, but I'm not sure that will happen. As for the money, he might feel short changed in regards to what Fury is getting but it's still more than 8 times than what he got from his last fight. It doubles if he wins as well so there's a hell of an incentive. He will have enough money to retire after this fight but boxers seem to go through cash like it's unlimited hence why they end up fighting way past their prime. There's still probably options for him though.

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In fairness to Whyte he was never a great orator, he was never gifted in the way say for example Fury is therefore I am not surprised you advised to not watch the interview Grin

Yes it will be the biggest pay day of his career but Whyte feels he was short changed and as you said he will probably not walk away from the fight as the winner. He should retire after this fight knowing he tried his best but it was not good enough.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 15, 2022, 10:06:23 AM

Whyte has finally done a media interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzsEVKC9nEw

It's not really worth watching as he doesn't really say much. I'm guessing either Warren gave in and acquiesced to some of Whyte's demands in exchange for promotion or there was actually something in the contact that required it. It's in Dillian's interests to do something as he'd be a fool to walk away from this fight which we know isn't going to happen. It's still his biggest payday by far and likely will be the last time he gets that sort of money again unless he actually beats Fury which isn't likely to happen.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 06, 2022, 06:40:34 PM

In all probability this fight will not leave Frank Warren out of pocket or not reach potential profits because Wembley Stadium will be sold out for the fight and it is almost inconceivable that the fight will not be shown in Europe, US and Canada by cable and satellite operators. The rights to the fight will bring in plenty of funds for Frank Warren and his partners.

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Actual ticket sales will make up only a small portion of the income from this fight. The big money comes from the PPVs. I'm sure the in person tickets will sell out but I think this fight is going to have to do very well world wide to make a decent profit. I'm sure the demand in the UK will be huge but I'm not sure how excited American audiences will be.

Whyte has finally done a media interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzsEVKC9nEw

It's not really worth watching as he doesn't really say much. I'm guessing either Warren gave in and acquiesced to some of Whyte's demands in exchange for promotion or there was actually something in the contact that required it. It's in Dillian's interests to do something as he'd be a fool to walk away from this fight which we know isn't going to happen. It's still his biggest payday by far and likely will be the last time he gets that sort of money again unless he actually beats Fury which isn't likely to happen.

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Fury will definitely win this fight, Fury is a giant at 6.9 and 277 lbs. He uses that weight well and lands his jabs well. Fury is a bigger man, he always threw his big size on wilder when they fought the two fight then, that's one of his game plan, if whyte can overcome this probably he might give fury a suprise........ But all I see in this fight is either a draw or fury wins

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No doubt Tyson Fury is the best and only boxing fighter now that is good in pre-fight teasing words which will always increase the buzz of boxing fans and I could remember the time when he want to fight Wilder in their trilogy fight he called him (Wilder) "a real piece of garbage".
Yes, 94,000 boxing fans will watch the fight but what should we expect in his upcoming fight with Whyte after he (Fury) lost at the press conference.

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The reason why Wembley Stadium will be at 94,000 tell sell out is because of Fury. I doubt Whyte on his own can generate enough interest to fill anywhere near a quarter of the crowd.

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You are right, Fury is good at creating hype. I think Fury is a walking talking self-promoter and he does not need Whyte in the promotional events and press conferences to sell the fight because he can do all that on his own.

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Fury is so good at making a hype of his fight, but this time it's real he really wants to knock out Whyte for not making a way for a possible fight against Usyk, and there's no need for Whyte to hype the fight, with Fury the boxing community is already hyped on this fight, the boxing community is not expecting an upset, Fury already established his legacy and an upset will blow it away, Fury wants to go further by winning all the belts.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 08, 2022, 06:46:27 PM

Frank Warren said today that "Fury wanted to make a statement" when he gets in the ring with Dillian Whyte. The fight will take place on 23rd April 2022 at Wembley Stadium. The report can be read here on SKY SPORTS

Fury also taunted Whyte on Twitter by saying he will knock him out but Whyte has stayed quiet and kept a low profile, he was even absent from the ticket launch last month.

The seating capacity for the fight at Wembley Stadium will be a staggering 94,000.

Fury is so good at making a hype of his fight, but this time it's real he really wants to knock out Whyte for not making a way for a possible fight against Usyk, and there's no need for Whyte to hype the fight, with Fury the boxing community is already hyped on this fight, the boxing community is not expecting an upset, Fury already established his legacy and an upset will blow it away, Fury wants to go further by winning all the belts.

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Frank Warren said today that "Fury wanted to make a statement" when he gets in the ring with Dillian Whyte. The fight will take place on 23rd April 2022 at Wembley Stadium. The report can be read here on SKY SPORTS

Fury also taunted Whyte on Twitter by saying he will knock him out but Whyte has stayed quiet and kept a low profile, he was even absent from the ticket launch last month.

The seating capacity for the fight at Wembley Stadium will be a staggering 94,000.

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In all probability this fight will not leave Frank Warren out of pocket or not reach potential profits because Wembley Stadium will be sold out for the fight and it is almost inconceivable that the fight will not be shown in Europe, US and Canada by cable and satellite operators. The rights to the fight will bring in plenty of funds for Frank Warren and his partners.

Long time promoter Bob Arum is a partner in the promotion therefore US audiences will be picking up the fight. How much they make is a different thing altogether because a network paying for the rights to broadcast vs PPV earnings are difficult to calculate right now. You are right about the blind bid though, Warren ensured he would beat Hearn and to some degree Hearn never saw it coming which takes their rivalry to a new level too.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 06, 2022, 04:07:35 PM

I'm wondering if Warren will make his money back on this fight as that purse bid seems outrageous. I've no doubt it will do well in the UK but it's going to need to do well worldwide to profit. The PPV is £25 in the UK but I'm really hoping dazn pick it up in one of their regions as I'd really like to watch it live.

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Just in case, I diversified the voting and put on a draw

By the way, now this option is starting to seem logical to me - Fury's defense in the match with Wilder was not great, to put it mildly, and in many ways he won thanks to the fact that he is a "iron guy". Maybe White (if he doesn't get knocked out) can be ahead on points, but won't get the win because he can't clearly beat Fury - so we'll see a draw and a rematch.

In my own honest opinion, the Gypsy king could have been lost by Wilder in their last fight if he didn't manage to knock out the latter in the round 11 because their score card wasn't that far and the Fury as the Iron Guy has also been down twice in the round 3 or 4 if I'm not mistaken.

But in this match, I think I'm not seeing any draw even if Whyte could survive all 12 rounds because their capabilities is really far and Fury really has this fight in his favor.

We'll see. I don't rule out any possibility, even a lucky punch from Whyte. Fury has never been very disciplined, so it is not known in what state and with what mood he will approach the fight, where the result, as everyone thinks, is “guaranteed” for him.
Maybe I just want to intrigue (yes hehehe) and come up with different options for Fury to lose but he doesn't really look like an unbeatable boxer to me.

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Undercard has been announced: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1080569/tyson-fury-vs-dillian-whyte-undercard-tommy-fury/

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The full card is as follows:

Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte (WBC Heavyweight Title)
Anthony Cacace vs Jonathan Romero (Super-Featherweight)
Tommy Fury vs Daniel Bocianski (Light-Heavyweight)
Isaac Lowe vs Nick Ball (Featherweight)
David Adeleye vs Chris Healey (Heavyweight)
Kurt Walker vs Opponent TBC (Super-Featherweight)
Karol Itauma vs Michal Ciach (Light-Heavyweight)
Royston Barney-Smith vs Jahfieus Faure (Super-Featherweight)

Looks shit. Tommy Fumbles is fighting a no-name Polish fighter no doubt to try pad his record even more.

I'm wondering if Warren will make his money back on this fight as that purse bid seems outrageous. I've no doubt it will do well in the UK but it's going to need to do well worldwide to profit. The PPV is £25 in the UK but I'm really hoping dazn pick it up in one of their regions as I'd really like to watch it live.

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Fury should not have any problems pushing Whyte aside and like you not many people here and around the world will be expecting anything magical from Whyte either. If Whyte manages to pull it off by beating Fury he will create a massive upset but Fury will still have the chance to rectify any loss by trying to win the rematch.

Quote from: eaLiTy on January 29, 2022, 06:48:17 PM

Even i am not expecting anything magical from Dillian Whyte against Tyson Fury but he was supposed to fight Anthony Joshua for a long time and he is waiting in the sideline for a long time to fight for the title and with Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk are engaged to fight, it is a good match up as they were not having any opponents and they cannot wait on the sideline for a longtime waiting for the other fight to get over.

To be frank i do not want to see Francis Ngannou and Tyson Fury in the boxing ring as there is nothing Tyson Fury has not seen inside boxing but if he is smart they should promote a fight between Deontay Wilder and Francis Ngannou to find out the heaviest puncher of all time and even in that fight i am expecting Francis Ngannou to gas out completely and Deontay Wilder tagging him in the later rounds Cheesy

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First of all it seems Warren did not cover all bases in the contract therefore all the fault-blaming has to lay with him. Any contract drawn up by an experienced promoter has to be watertight and in this case it seems Warren failed in one of the most important aspects of his job.

I think we all know the fight will go ahead at a sell out Wembley Stadium on 23rd April 2022 regardless of any lack of promotion by Whyte

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 01, 2022, 06:28:27 AM

Hearn has mentioned the situation a couple of times in interviews if you want to search them out but the below is an argument/debate with Warren and Whyte's lawyer last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p87sFilDfyw

It looks like the only thing that was contractually obligated is that Dillian needs to 'reasonably' promote the fight on his social media, which is very vague. Dillian's lawyer seems a bit incompetent and Warren seems to have been a bit naïve to not actually mandate the promo events /press conferences appearances are mandatory etc. If it was in the contract then he would have to turn up otherwise it would be in breach of it and he'd be almost certainly be sued. It must have just been a massive oversight from the Warren camp and maybe they just assumed he'd turn-up. Because Warren won the purse bid it's all on his promotion company. Usually it's a dual-event by promoters of both parties so they both have a financial motive to turn up and promote the fight as much as they can, but since it's all on Warren and they're getting all of the money Dillian has no reason to do promo as there's no financial motive. It now looks like both parties are playing hardball because of each other's actions.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 31, 2022, 11:34:01 AM

Whyte as you rightly said is (and was) never going to walk away from this fight. This is the biggest moment of his career and he will probably never have another opportunity equal to or bigger than this one fighting Fury because the WBC heavyweight title belt will belong to the winner.

I had no idea about the contractual obligations or lack of them but to be fair to Fury if that is the case then Warren is the one to blame because that was his job. Why would a seasoned experienced manager/promoter forget to implement something so important in the contract?

I searched online but could not find anything related to it. Are you sure about Whyte not being obliged to attend media and promotional events?

Hearn has mentioned the situation a couple of times in interviews if you want to search them out but the below is an argument/debate with Warren and Whyte's lawyer last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p87sFilDfyw

It looks like the only thing that was contractually obligated is that Dillian needs to 'reasonably' promote the fight on his social media, which is very vague. Dillian's lawyer seems a bit incompetent and Warren seems to have been a bit naïve to not actually mandate the promo events /press conferences appearances are mandatory etc. If it was in the contract then he would have to turn up otherwise it would be in breach of it and he'd be almost certainly be sued. It must have just been a massive oversight from the Warren camp and maybe they just assumed he'd turn-up. Because Warren won the purse bid it's all on his promotion company. Usually it's a dual-event by promoters of both parties so they both have a financial motive to turn up and promote the fight as much as they can, but since it's all on Warren and they're getting all of the money Dillian has no reason to do promo as there's no financial motive. It now looks like both parties are playing hardball because of each other's actions.

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It might favour Whyte keeping himself in the news as a PR stunt but Fury already responded to those stories by denying them. He claims Whyte never floored him when they spared together.

When they meet it will be real and anything can happen in a boxing fight. I do not think it is naive to think Whyte will not land clean punches, I think he will land cleans jabs and punches but a Fury victory is inevitable.

Quote from: eaLiTy on March 31, 2022, 06:11:18 PM

Dillian Whyte and his team is spreading the idea of Tyson Fury being dropped by him during sparring sessions and even if that is the case and these news are true, i doubt Dillian Whyte will be able to touch him in the fight. Fighters like Wladimir Klitschko nor Deontay Wilder who i think is the biggest puncher in the division was not able to keep Tyson Fury down and it is naïve to think that Dillian Whyte would be able to land clean strikes.

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Quote from: Viscore on March 28, 2022, 05:08:14 PM

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Probably the fight will be very much entertaining as we are soon to witness a great fighter who is always defending his incredible unbeaten record that makes Fury the crowd's favorite bet. But not to mention Whyte as he is been doing great too in the boxing arena and to think that he admitted that he has dropped Fury on multiple occasions in a sparring session, well this fight will prove it all. And the rematch of Joshua and Usyk will add another highlight too on the said event.

Dillian Whyte and his team is spreading the idea of Tyson Fury being dropped by him during sparring sessions and even if that is the case and these news are true, i doubt Dillian Whyte will be able to touch him in the fight. Fighters like Wladimir Klitschko nor Deontay Wilder who i think is the biggest puncher in the division was not able to keep Tyson Fury down and it is naïve to think that Dillian Whyte would be able to land clean strikes.

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Whyte as you rightly said is (and was) never going to walk away from this fight. This is the biggest moment of his career and he will probably never have another opportunity equal to or bigger than this one fighting Fury because the WBC heavyweight title belt will belong to the winner.

I had no idea about the contractual obligations or lack of them but to be fair to Fury if that is the case then Warren is the one to blame because that was his job. Why would a seasoned experienced manager/promoter forget to implement something so important in the contract?

I searched online but could not find anything related to it. Are you sure about Whyte not being obliged to attend media and promotional events?

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If Whyte felt disrespected because of ticketing issues then he has a valid point but why would that be the biggest problem? It is clear many things are going on behind the scenes. Why on earth did Hearn and the Whyte camp wait until deadline day before signing the contract? Hearn claims it to make Fury upset and to play mind games but Fury is way beyond those small minded attempts. Add to that Whyte wanting a bigger share of the purse, it did not help.

Whyte will have left it to the last minute to try wrangle a better deal but when that was clear it wasn't going to happen he will have capitulated as he's not going to walk away from this fight. What is very stupid on Fury's part is not putting contractual media obligations into the deal as now Whyte doesn't have to turn up to anything and he probably won't unless Warren coughs up some more dough.

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Whyte will have left it to the last minute to try wrangle a better deal but when that was clear it wasn't going to happen he will have capitulated as he's not going to walk away from this fight. What is very stupid on Fury's part is not putting contractual media obligations into the deal as now Whyte doesn't have to turn up to anything and he probably won't unless Warren coughs up some more dough.

I believe Dillian Whyte will be having a share of the PPV and he is not promoting the fight expecting Tyson Fury to do all the heavy lifting. Media obligations should be there is the contract and the press conference are not that interesting like we wanted because of that. May be mind games by Dillian Whyte, who knows Cheesy

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As per Tyson Fury this is his last fight and if Whyte promotes or not this is going to be a huge success financially as all of his fans will be wishing to see him fight one last time.

He's not getting anything other than the money he's been promised for the fight hence why he's not bothering to promote the match. Whether it sells a million PPVs or zero Whyte gets the same so I can totally see why he's not interested in promoting it as all he's going to be doing is putting more money in Fury's pockets. The only way he'll get paid more is if he wins the fight and gets the winners bonus which I believe is 4 million (but he will know that's unlikely). I'm surprised Fury and especially Warren have been this naïve to not make the media duties part of the fight obligations. They're usually always put into the contract because a lot of fighters just won't bother turning up to them or will pick and choose what they do. I kinda like the Dillian has been AWOL since as it adds another dimension to the fight.

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