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Quote from: hilariousetc on March 30, 2022, 04:45:19 PM

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Whyte will have left it to the last minute to try wrangle a better deal but when that was clear it wasn't going to happen he will have capitulated as he's not going to walk away from this fight. What is very stupid on Fury's part is not putting contractual media obligations into the deal as now Whyte doesn't have to turn up to anything and he probably won't unless Warren coughs up some more dough.

I believe Dillian Whyte will be having a share of the PPV and he is not promoting the fight expecting Tyson Fury to do all the heavy lifting. Media obligations should be there is the contract and the press conference are not that interesting like we wanted because of that. May be mind games by Dillian Whyte, who knows Cheesy

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As per Tyson Fury this is his last fight and if Whyte promotes or not this is going to be a huge success financially as all of his fans will be wishing to see him fight one last time.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 29, 2022, 04:51:34 PM

If Whyte felt disrespected because of ticketing issues then he has a valid point but why would that be the biggest problem? It is clear many things are going on behind the scenes. Why on earth did Hearn and the Whyte camp wait until deadline day before signing the contract? Hearn claims it to make Fury upset and to play mind games but Fury is way beyond those small minded attempts. Add to that Whyte wanting a bigger share of the purse, it did not help.

Whyte will have left it to the last minute to try wrangle a better deal but when that was clear it wasn't going to happen he will have capitulated as he's not going to walk away from this fight. What is very stupid on Fury's part is not putting contractual media obligations into the deal as now Whyte doesn't have to turn up to anything and he probably won't unless Warren coughs up some more dough.

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Votes in Poll: 36
Fury win: 32
Whyte win: 3
Draw: 1

Contrary to the recent reports about the fight maybe not going ahead because Whyte is unhappy, I think this is all part of plan to generate more interest. Having said that we finally have a vote in the poll for a draw but I think the chances of a draw are virtually nil Grin

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 29, 2022, 04:51:34 PM

If Whyte felt disrespected because of ticketing issues then he has a valid point but why would that be the biggest problem? It is clear many things are going on behind the scenes. Why on earth did Hearn and the Whyte camp wait until deadline day before signing the contract? Hearn claims it to make Fury upset and to play mind games but Fury is way beyond those small minded attempts. Add to that Whyte wanting a bigger share of the purse, it did not help.

Hearn can say all he likes about being glad not to promote the fight but let us not forget he did bid to promote the fight but was outbid by the record-breaking blind bid by Frank Warren (promoter of Fury). I think Hearn is just upset he lost out but he must have learned his lesson because if a Fury vs Joshua fight ever went head he would want to be the one to promote it.

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It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay.

I've read the article you've said, thanks.

I don't know much about the complimentary tickets or some details behind the scene and their agreements, but what I'm so curious about is that why did Fury's team didn't disclose any details about the fight and the inside venue? It's a bit unfair I think that Whyte's entourage or family doesn't have any tickets at all to watch the fight.

That's also why Eddie Hearn have said that he's glad that he got no part about the fight and promotions. Seems a little bit messy behind the scenes.

I guess they are just making it a big deal because they have nothing else to throw at, so the tickets (small problems) is what they see now and I assume that Hearn who didn't get the bid on this fight is pulling those strings behind the scenes to get this upcoming fight somehow messed up and I bet he is also the one whispering on Whyte's ears that he have a right to have a bigger share in the purse.

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Votes in Poll: 34
Fury win: 31
Whyte win: 3
Draw: 0

The votes in the poll are far lower than I would have hoped for. Keep the votes coming in Grin

Just in case, I diversified the voting and put on a draw

By the way, now this option is starting to seem logical to me - Fury's defense in the match with Wilder was not great, to put it mildly, and in many ways he won thanks to the fact that he is a "iron guy". Maybe White (if he doesn't get knocked out) can be ahead on points, but won't get the win because he can't clearly beat Fury - so we'll see a draw and a rematch.

In my own honest opinion, the Gypsy king could have been lost by Wilder in their last fight if he didn't manage to knock out the latter in the round 11 because their score card wasn't that far and the Fury as the Iron Guy has also been down twice in the round 3 or 4 if I'm not mistaken.

But in this match, I think I'm not seeing any draw even if Whyte could survive all 12 rounds because their capabilities is really far and Fury really has this fight in his favor.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 28, 2022, 04:56:40 AM

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Votes in Poll: 34
Fury win: 31
Whyte win: 3
Draw: 0

The votes in the poll are far lower than I would have hoped for. Keep the votes coming in Grin

Just in case, I diversified the voting and put on a draw

By the way, now this option is starting to seem logical to me - Fury's defense in the match with Wilder was not great, to put it mildly, and in many ways he won thanks to the fact that he is a "iron guy". Maybe White (if he doesn't get knocked out) can be ahead on points, but won't get the win because he can't clearly beat Fury - so we'll see a draw and a rematch.

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If Whyte felt disrespected because of ticketing issues then he has a valid point but why would that be the biggest problem? It is clear many things are going on behind the scenes. Why on earth did Hearn and the Whyte camp wait until deadline day before signing the contract? Hearn claims it to make Fury upset and to play mind games but Fury is way beyond those small minded attempts. Add to that Whyte wanting a bigger share of the purse, it did not help.

Hearn can say all he likes about being glad not to promote the fight but let us not forget he did bid to promote the fight but was outbid by the record-breaking blind bid by Frank Warren (promoter of Fury). I think Hearn is just upset he lost out but he must have learned his lesson because if a Fury vs Joshua fight ever went head he would want to be the one to promote it.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 28, 2022, 04:56:40 AM

It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay.

I've read the article you've said, thanks.

I don't know much about the complimentary tickets or some details behind the scene and their agreements, but what I'm so curious about is that why did Fury's team didn't disclose any details about the fight and the inside venue? It's a bit unfair I think that Whyte's entourage or family doesn't have any tickets at all to watch the fight.

That's also why Eddie Hearn have said that he's glad that he got no part about the fight and promotions. Seems a little bit messy behind the scenes.

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I think this is another great fight and as always, I can never bet against Fury as he is the king of the heavyweight division.
The poll is not up yet, but you know what fighter I will vote to win.

So what we are going to see is this fight and a rematch of Joshua and Usyk.

Wilder seemed lost now. Grin

Probably the fight will be very much entertaining as we are soon to witness a great fighter who is always defending his incredible unbeaten record that makes Fury the crowd's favorite bet. But not to mention Whyte as he is been doing great too in the boxing arena and to think that he admitted that he has dropped Fury on multiple occasions in a sparring session, well this fight will prove it all. And the rematch of Joshua and Usyk will add another highlight too on the said event.

Yeah, probably. So that means that it is still unsure that this would be an entertaining or interesting fight after all. Well, I'm not saying that Whyte is just too far from Fury's league but what we are seeing is sure win fight from Fury and the chances that he will be upset in this fight is almost less than slim and the poll shows that the fights future results. I'm not a Fury fan nor Whyte, I'm just saying what I am seeing.

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Quote from: Vaculin on January 28, 2022, 05:40:08 PM

I think this is another great fight and as always, I can never bet against Fury as he is the king of the heavyweight division.
The poll is not up yet, but you know what fighter I will vote to win.

So what we are going to see is this fight and a rematch of Joshua and Usyk.

Wilder seemed lost now. Grin

Probably the fight will be very much entertaining as we are soon to witness a great fighter who is always defending his incredible unbeaten record that makes Fury the crowd's favorite bet. But not to mention Whyte as he is been doing great too in the boxing arena and to think that he admitted that he has dropped Fury on multiple occasions in a sparring session, well this fight will prove it all. And the rematch of Joshua and Usyk will add another highlight too on the said event.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 28, 2022, 04:56:40 AM

It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay.

I've read the article you've said, thanks.

I don't know much about the complimentary tickets or some details behind the scene and their agreements, but what I'm so curious about is that why did Fury's team didn't disclose any details about the fight and the inside venue? It's a bit unfair I think that Whyte's entourage or family doesn't have any tickets at all to watch the fight.

That's also why Eddie Hearn have said that he's glad that he got no part about the fight and promotions. Seems a little bit messy behind the scenes.

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It seems the lawyer for Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead but has not given more detail except outstanding issues need resolving. It all stemmed from Whyte wanting a bigger share of the fight purse distribution and looked at ways to increase his pay.

Here is the latest news on what his lawyer has been saying and how Hearn has been adding his voice to the situation: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/will-the-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte-fight-go-ahead-as-scheduled-whytes-lawyer-not-sure/216363

Votes in Poll: 34
Fury win: 31
Whyte win: 3
Draw: 0

The votes in the poll are far lower than I would have hoped for. Keep the votes coming in Grin

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Quote from: Welsh on March 25, 2022, 01:37:01 PM

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I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.

The thing is I think Usyk despite being technical, doesn't carry the same knockout threat, and outboxing Joshua isn't exactly a massive achievement, in a technical way at least. Joshua isn't technical, and hes never been a traditional boxer like Usky, instead he won his fights because of his power. Now, ever since he was dropped by Ruiz, hes backed away from fire fights, which has been his undoing. He seems to lack that confidence he once had. If Joshua gets that back, I see him beating Usyk, but he will absolutely not out box him. Same with Fury, except I believe Fury could match him toe to toe in a technical boxing match.

Another problem is that if Usyk outboxes Joshua without a knockout, then everyone will take it for granted because in the first fight he destroyed Joshua and the result of the fight was impossible to dispute. But if Usyk can "survive" the entire fight against Fury and even be ahead "on fair points", then he will not be given the victory because the challenger must be clearly stronger than the champion.

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As for Whyte, if he manages to pull off a victory against Fury he will have to beat him twice (after the rematch) to have a chance of fighting the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua rematch. Heavyweight boxing is looking a little more exciting these days Grin

If Fury really loses these two fights (it will already take at least a year) and Wilder has time to return to business, then with any outcome of the Usyk-Joshua fight, the situation will again become as confused as possible. It would be really epic and interesting.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on March 26, 2022, 03:36:13 AM

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therefore you saying he cried like a baby (when Joshua defeated him) was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer.

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Pls do not make me look bad by adding to my post what I did not say. There was nowhere i said he cried like a baby, hello? I said he was beaten like a baby by AJ. And I maintain it. Any boxer who was defeated through a TKO is beaten like a baby. But if it is through unanimous decision then it is not. That is my assessment. Will you not say that Wilder was beaten like a baby by Tyson Fury too?

Beat like a baby...
Cry like a baby...

Not much difference between the two. I mistakenly wrote "cry" instead of "beat" but it did not make you look bad. Not sure why you would assume that when the whole context of your post was looking bad in my opinion.

As for you maintaining what you wrote above, you are entitled to your opinion but I will never say any boxer (Wilder or otherwise) was beaten like a baby - that is not something I would do.

As for me, I am still maintaining what you wrote was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer. In my opinion he was not beaten like a baby by Joshua and I further maintain that Joshua was fortunate to win that fight. That is my assessment and my opinion.

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Klitschko was 41 years old and out of the ring for nearly 17 months but he almost won that fight against a 27 year old Joshua. Whichever way the fight is seen it is clear Klitschko did not cry like a baby when he fought Joshua.

Why did he not retire before facing AJ if he knew he was going to face a young and talented boxer? His age should not be an excuse.

Why ask me? I am not Klitschko and I am not his manager or promoter. I have no interest in knowing why Klitschko retired, semi-retired or came out of retirement to fight Joshua.

Any more posts directed to me about your earlier posts with references to Klitschko, Joshua, Cry and Beat will be considered off-topic and will be deleted.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 25, 2022, 11:53:47 AM

therefore you saying he cried like a baby (when Joshua defeated him) was disrespectful to Klitschko as a man and as a professional boxer.

Pls do not make me look bad by adding to my post what I did not say. There was nowhere i said he cried like a baby, hello? I said he was beaten like a baby by AJ. And I maintain it. Any boxer who was defeated through a TKO is beaten like a baby. But if it is through unanimous decision then it is not. That is my assessment. Will you not say that Wilder was beaten like a baby by Tyson Fury too?

Quote from: JollyGood on March 25, 2022, 11:53:47 AM

Klitschko was 41 years old and out of the ring for nearly 17 months but he almost won that fight against a 27 year old Joshua. Whichever way the fight is seen it is clear Klitschko did not cry like a baby when he fought Joshua.

Why did he not retire before facing AJ if he knew he was going to face a young and talented boxer? His age should not be an excuse.

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You said it correctly, Whyte is very small draw compared to Usyk, Joshua and of course Fury but inside the ring he has a huge frame and is capable of causing damage to any opponent but is small when standing next to Fury. If he loses (as expected) then Whyte should retire knowing he tried his best but simply was beaten by the better fighter.

Not all boxers have a chance at fighting for a title therefore Whyte should be proud to be given number one rank by the WBC and he will have his chance. Unfortunately for him he will be up against Fury. Reading what you wrote about the possibility that Whyte could be another Ruiz in the making (alluding to him defeating Joshua), well that is possible but really what are the chances?

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My understanding is that Fury was trying to get out of fighting Whyte because he was a much smaller draw than Joshua or Usyk. Whyte on the other hand was trying his best to make the fight happen but he wanted more than the 20% of the funds that he was getting and he was not happy that Fury was getting 80%.

He really is a small draw compared if he is fighting Usyk or Joshua but Whyte is one annoying guy, he needs to dispatch this guy so no one will hinder a fight against Usyk or Joshua, Whyte has been calling all champions to fight him because he is a top rank contender because of his win against Povetkin

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The Whyte team was not happy with the amount of money they were going to get therefore they were trying to avoid signing the contract in the hope of getting a better deal, they never avoided fighting Fury they just wanted a fairer share of the funds.

Fury is the big crowd and PPV attraction Whyte should understand that, it will be his turn if he beats Fury he should be happy that he is challenging Fury for the title this is his last chance to win a title and become a top boxer, we never know if he is another Andy Ruiz in the making, so far no one is voting Whyte on this poll and it's very obvious.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on March 24, 2022, 02:38:22 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 24, 2022, 09:39:28 AM

What you wrote about Wladimir Klitschko is extremely disrespectful because he was 41 years old when he faced a 27 year old Joshua yet it took a momentous effort by Joshua which was barely enough to him to win.

I did not understand what you mean by my post being disrespectful. I did not mean to sound rude but only stated my observation. I like to say that any boxer defeated by TKO even if it is a single punch landing on the ribs or an uppercut that knocks the breath out of him is thoroughly beaten. Sorry if that offended you because Klitschko is one of your favorite boxer. But he also sent alot of boxers to the canvas. He was great during his boxing career too.

It's just probably just a little unfair to speak of Wladimir Klitschko being beaten like a baby by Anthony Joshua. And at that time, Anthony Joshua was already starting to make a name as a young and promising heavyweight while Klitschko was already an old man facing the beginning of the end of his boxing career. The younger Klitschko was a ferocious fighter. I am 100% sure Wladimir will knock out Anthony Joshua when both of them faced each other during their prime.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on March 25, 2022, 01:05:05 PM

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I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.

The interesting aspect of Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury match up is that both are technically strong and both have a ton of experience in the amateurs and Usyk is an Olympic champion and hence that will be a great match up. Tyson Fury is not known for his crushing blows, he picks apart boxers usually and he always finds a way to win the fight as he can adapt to the situation.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on March 25, 2022, 01:05:05 PM

I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.

You have a point, Usyk is technically an excellent fighter therefore you are right when you say you are not sure if Fury is better technically. For me, I still do not see a problem in the comparison. Whatever happens, if Fury defeats Whyte and then Usyk defeats Joshua - Usyk will put up a much stronger defence against Fury than Joshua would.

As for Whyte, if he manages to pull off a victory against Fury he will have to beat him twice (after the rematch) to have a chance of fighting the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua rematch. Heavyweight boxing is looking a little more exciting these days Grin

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Quote from: Boristhecat on March 25, 2022, 01:05:05 PM

I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.

I'm not sure, he's still a very technical fighter when it comes to it. The only problem with Fury is motivation, he's performed worse (Wallin) when he isn't motivated. If he isn't motivated his technique drops, as well as his power. He just looks like he's trying new things, rather than focusing on winning, He takes a lot more chances, now we kind of got accustomed to that because of the Wilder fight after, since he had to take chances, since despite how technical he was, one hit, and it's over.

The thing is I think Usyk despite being technical, doesn't carry the same knockout threat, and outboxing Joshua isn't exactly a massive achievement, in a technical way at least. Joshua isn't technical, and hes never been a traditional boxer like Usky, instead he won his fights because of his power. Now, ever since he was dropped by Ruiz, hes backed away from fire fights, which has been his undoing. He seems to lack that confidence he once had. If Joshua gets that back, I see him beating Usyk, but he will absolutely not out box him. Same with Fury, except I believe Fury could match him toe to toe in a technical boxing match.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 23, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

I agree that he is almost guaranteed to beat anybody, that is hard to disagree with because his biggest threat was from Wilder but Fury demolished him twice. Joshua will probably be defeated by Usyk if the rematch goes ahead in June 2022.

Whether Fury fights Usyk or Joshua for the unified heavyweight belts, as far as I am concerned he will win because he is too superior a fighter, he is on a completely different level of fighting and technicality to his opponents.

I'm not sure that Fury is technically superior to Usyk, but he is very much superior to him in physical strength. I can well imagine that Usyk will box with Fury on equal terms (and it seems to me that Usyk is faster than Fury), but I can hardly imagine that Usyk will be able to keep Fury away for all 12 rounds and prevent him from delivering his crushing blows.

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