[Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title

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Quote from: harizen on January 24, 2022, 07:14:01 PM

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What's next for the reigning WBC Featherweight Champion Mark Magsayo? A title defense or stepping into another division? He can go with 130 lbs after numerous title defenses to prepare his body.

Here are the possible fights he can arrange with: (within the same division)

Emanuel Navarrete - WBO Featherweight Champion
Kiko Martinez - IBF Featherweight Champion
Leigh Wood - WBA Featherweight Champion
Gary Russell Jr. - Title Defense (rematch)

I don't know if Magsayo's camp plan to unify this but it's a good target before testing the waters on 130–135 lbs.

If i were an adviser to Magsayo, i would take on Kiko Martinez first before going for the rematch or a unification bout with either Wood or Navarrete.

On the three, Martinez seems to be the weakest and a fight with him will give Magsayo more confidence going forward if he wins.

Money-wise, i think he would still receive substantial amount whoever he fights because his fight with Russell, it's been said by one analyst that Mark received 19M Php which for me a big amount already since he is just the challenger to Russell and if he defend or unify then we could expect that he will receive more.

Time to lock the thread guys and as usual, thanks for all your comments and congrats to those who win and also a big congrats to the new champion from the Philippines, Mark Magnifico Magsayo.

See you in his next fight, hopefully this year.

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So he defeated Gary Russel (in which i thought is going to win lol) but as I have read there is a injury when the fight held like what happened in some boxer who loses because of their not so good stand.

But i also agree in the call for rematch because this will seal the talking about the injury reason why Magsayo won the fight.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Let’s end that injury issue since Russel choose to continue the fight which means to me the injury is not that serious and tolerable at all.

Magsayo proves that he deserve to be a world champion, and still undefeated now the challenge here is to remain on that level so whoever the next boxer to fight Magsayo, for sure they are eager to land a first big loss to Magsayo, can’t wait to see him defending the belt.

The injury is at least not secret. 2 weeks before the fight Russell already stated it but he doesn't want to cancel the fight as it will ruin everything.

Still, we should appreciate that he continues despite being injured. But in return, he should not be arrogant not to accept the loss.

Rematch is possible but Magsayo is moving forward. No advantage for Magsayo for a rematch.

It really back fire on him, yeah he declared days prior to the fight that he is injured, and maybe because he thinks he can still beat Magsayo with his left or at least one hand.

And now that he is beaten, he can't believed it and still goes to the media like he won the fight with just one hand. And for me it's disrespecful to the camp of Magsayo.

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Have anyone seen Gary Russell interview after the fight, the guy is a sore loser claiming he won the majority of the rounds and teaches Magsayo a lesson in boxing, all he has done in the ring is to run and ducked he doesn't even have an offense claiming that he has one hand, it's not Magsayo's fault why he has that injury what is clear is he clearly losses the fight and none of the judges favors him.

Here is the video of that interview

GARY RUSSELL JR. POST-FIGHT VS. MARK MAGSAYO | TALKS JUDGING, INJURY, REMATCH OR MOVE UP

Yeah, I saw this video earlier and honestly he made me laugh knowing that it's so clear that Mark Magsayo has the advantage of the fight so natrurally the Philippine boxer would be hailed as the winner and the new word champion. I reckon he didn't saw the video of the fight, what he's claiming is the exact opposite of what Mark Magsayo did to him. He can't just accept that he lost Grin

Also, it was Gary Russell's fault why he had injury and that explains why he only used his right hand in the fight.

Gary Russell is a great boxer and already carved his name in the boxing greats, he just cannot accept the loss he is doing a Teofimo Lopez by denying the obvious he is indeed a sore loser, he should just humble himself to gain the admiration of the boxing community, now they are laughing at Russell for being a sore loser, anyway, we looked at the fight even to the eyes of the judges he losses the fight, I lose a bit of respect to Russell for his denial.

Well you're right there mate, there's no doubt that Gary Russell had his own share in the industry and the fact that he's a world champion is already a feat that every boxer have dreamed. But the way he's reacting now isn't going to make people to respect him as it's very obvious that he's been defeated in the fight. He should've just accepted the results of the fight.

For many, this was a great surprise, because everyone was waiting for Russel to win, I did imagine that the Filipino could give the surprise, and it is very difficult when in a statistic they promote another boxer more than the same one who won, I imagine that the bets were all down, but it is good that this type of fight happens, because with this it is evident that the preparation of a boxer is everything, not only fame influences this sport, because you can be the champion but if not defend the title or prepare well this kind of thing happens.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Let’s end that injury issue since Russel choose to continue the fight which means to me the injury is not that serious and tolerable at all.

Nope we cannot take it out because that is reality , yeah he chooses to fight still but of course that Injury is one big factor why Magsayo won and we can see that in the actual fight as russel did not perform like what he did in His past bout.

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Magsayo proves that he deserve to be a world champion, and still undefeated now the challenge here is to remain on that level so whoever the next boxer to fight Magsayo, for sure they are eager to land a first big loss to Magsayo, can’t wait to see him defending the belt.

No one is taking that out for Magsayo , but we will see that reality once the rematch happens soon as surely this will be conducted in the near future .

Rematch should happen so we can really know who's the best between this two without any excuse. We can really see the result of having an injury and we cannot blame Russel for pushing this through, maybe he just want to prove something as well.

Magsayo did a great job though, he was not intimidated and knows when to throw punches. If there's a rematch I'll still bet for Magsayo.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Let’s end that injury issue since Russel choose to continue the fight which means to me the injury is not that serious and tolerable at all.

Nope we cannot take it out because that is reality , yeah he chooses to fight still but of course that Injury is one big factor why Magsayo won and we can see that in the actual fight as russel did not perform like what he did in His past bout.

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Magsayo proves that he deserve to be a world champion, and still undefeated now the challenge here is to remain on that level so whoever the next boxer to fight Magsayo, for sure they are eager to land a first big loss to Magsayo, can’t wait to see him defending the belt.

No one is taking that out for Magsayo , but we will see that reality once the rematch happens soon as surely this will be conducted in the near future .

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2022, 07:40:41 PM

The injury is at least not secret. 2 weeks before the fight Russell already stated it but he doesn't want to cancel the fight as it will ruin everything.

Still, we should appreciate that he continues despite being injured. But in return, he should not be arrogant not to accept the loss.

He didnt cancel the fight because he is confident to still win. But unfortunately its not the case, what he did is more on defensive and running. But as a good boxer he should be humble and accept the loss. Because clearly its Magsayo's victory, he is prepared and showed how he improves a lot.

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Rematch is possible but Magsayo is moving forward. No advantage for Magsayo for a rematch.

Its nice to see another rematch but it will depend on Magsayo's camp.

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Have anyone seen Gary Russell interview after the fight, the guy is a sore loser claiming he won the majority of the rounds and teaches Magsayo a lesson in boxing, all he has done in the ring is to run and ducked he doesn't even have an offense claiming that he has one hand, it's not Magsayo's fault why he has that injury what is clear is he clearly losses the fight and none of the judges favors him.

Here is the video of that interview

GARY RUSSELL JR. POST-FIGHT VS. MARK MAGSAYO | TALKS JUDGING, INJURY, REMATCH OR MOVE UP

Yeah, I saw this video earlier and honestly he made me laugh knowing that it's so clear that Mark Magsayo has the advantage of the fight so natrurally the Philippine boxer would be hailed as the winner and the new word champion. I reckon he didn't saw the video of the fight, what he's claiming is the exact opposite of what Mark Magsayo did to him. He can't just accept that he lost Grin

Also, it was Gary Russell's fault why he had injury and that explains why he only used his right hand in the fight.

Gary Russell is a great boxer and already carved his name in the boxing greats, he just cannot accept the loss he is doing a Teofimo Lopez by denying the obvious he is indeed a sore loser, he should just humble himself to gain the admiration of the boxing community, now they are laughing at Russell for being a sore loser, anyway, we looked at the fight even to the eyes of the judges he losses the fight, I lose a bit of respect to Russell for his denial.

That's okay mate, there are some boxers who can't accept their losses and that's normal as not everyone is humble. What's important now is that he lose and hopefully he will learn a lessoned in that fight, but since he does not accept his loss, then most likely he will not correct his misktake and will not improve.

Can't believe Russell behave that way. From all known years he was active, he was humble.

Maybe in 5-6 years, he didn't see it coming that he will lose. He might comfortable that no one can defeat him in the WBC Featherweight and he can always managed to win to all title defense.

To finally covered their chapter, Magsayo can go with a rematch. But if Russell will still have that injury, better totally forget that he will stand a chance against Magsayo.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Let’s end that injury issue since Russel choose to continue the fight which means to me the injury is not that serious and tolerable at all.

Magsayo proves that he deserve to be a world champion, and still undefeated now the challenge here is to remain on that level so whoever the next boxer to fight Magsayo, for sure they are eager to land a first big loss to Magsayo, can’t wait to see him defending the belt.

The injury is at least not secret. 2 weeks before the fight Russell already stated it but he doesn't want to cancel the fight as it will ruin everything.

Still, we should appreciate that he continues despite being injured. But in return, he should not be arrogant not to accept the loss.

Rematch is possible but Magsayo is moving forward. No advantage for Magsayo for a rematch.

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Quote from: Heartilly on January 23, 2022, 08:38:42 PM

What's next for the reigning WBC Featherweight Champion Mark Magsayo? A title defense or stepping into another division? He can go with 130 lbs after numerous title defenses to prepare his body.

Here are the possible fights he can arrange with: (within the same division)

Emanuel Navarrete - WBO Featherweight Champion
Kiko Martinez - IBF Featherweight Champion
Leigh Wood - WBA Featherweight Champion
Gary Russell Jr. - Title Defense (rematch)

I don't know if Magsayo's camp plan to unify this but it's a good target before testing the waters on 130–135 lbs.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

It will be a difficult fight if Russell is not injured. Russell is still very quick and fast even with his just left hand in the fight. Hopefully, we can see a rematch so really see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Indeed, although I bet on Magsayo I gotta admit to myself that it's what I saw. it's just so unfortunate for Rusell, he wasn't able to fight well to defend his title, but I'm sure he'll get a rematch as Magsayo has to prove to the fans that he can win even against a healthy Rusell.

Despite the fact that he is already a champion now, we can still see that he has some weaknesses and that his movement is pretty much easy to predict. The power he has in his punches are good already, there's just some improvement he has to make, it should be the footwork and choosing the quality of punches he has to throw, if he can perfect that, then I would say he really would become a dangerous fighter who has power and speed.

Exactly, that's what I saw as well. He won the fight but could not dominate it despite Rusell being injured and fighting with one hand only. We know Rusell is a sore loser but he was really good, and if he wasn't injured, he could have given Magsayo a boxing lesson as he can hit him and he is fast. Magsayo without a good timing in throwing his punches, he might get tired in the later rounds, so it's an area of improvement for him.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 24, 2022, 07:55:14 AM

The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Let’s end that injury issue since Russel choose to continue the fight which means to me the injury is not that serious and tolerable at all.

Magsayo proves that he deserve to be a world champion, and still undefeated now the challenge here is to remain on that level so whoever the next boxer to fight Magsayo, for sure they are eager to land a first big loss to Magsayo, can’t wait to see him defending the belt.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

It will be a difficult fight if Russell is not injured. Russell is still very quick and fast even with his just left hand in the fight. Hopefully, we can see a rematch so really see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Indeed, although I bet on Magsayo I gotta admit to myself that it's what I saw. it's just so unfortunate for Rusell, he wasn't able to fight well to defend his title, but I'm sure he'll get a rematch as Magsayo has to prove to the fans that he can win even against a healthy Rusell.

Despite the fact that he is already a champion now, we can still see that he has some weaknesses and that his movement is pretty much easy to predict. The power he has in his punches are good already, there's just some improvement he has to make, it should be the footwork and choosing the quality of punches he has to throw, if he can perfect that, then I would say he really would become a dangerous fighter who has power and speed.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

It will be a difficult fight if Russell is not injured. Russell is still very quick and fast even with his just left hand in the fight. Hopefully, we can see a rematch so really see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Indeed, although I bet on Magsayo I gotta admit to myself that it's what I saw. it's just so unfortunate for Rusell, he wasn't able to fight well to defend his title, but I'm sure he'll get a rematch as Magsayo has to prove to the fans that he can win even against a healthy Rusell.

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But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Yes, and we will have to wait for Casimero vs Butler. Another Filipino who has the belt right now, and if Casimero won then it will be a double celebration for Filipino boxing fans across the globe.

It's a good match as well, however, we don't know yet when it's gonna happen.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 24, 2022, 07:55:14 AM

The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

It will be a difficult fight if Russell is not injured. Russell is still very quick and fast even with his just left hand in the fight. Hopefully, we can see a rematch so really see what will be the outcome of the fight.

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But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

Yes, and we will have to wait for Casimero vs Butler. Another Filipino who has the belt right now, and if Casimero won then it will be a double celebration for Filipino boxing fans across the globe.

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I'm impressed with his endurance, his speed and strength, we all can say that he's well prepared for this match. And do you think guys that his age is a big factor against Russell? He's 26 years old while Russell is 33 years old.

yep, finally we see a new world champion here and with this I'm very happy Cheesy

IMO, it's not a matter of age now because indeed when it comes to age he is still very young.
but indeed in this match we can see how age and experience don't really matter much in this match and magsayo's power is really crazy in this fight.
Congratulations to all of us who are in the gamble magsayo we should rejoice over this

I guess apart from his age one factor that helped him win is the condition of Russell. Thanks but no thanks and sorry but no sorry, it's a professional fight and there's no need for those factors to be felt regret for this win.

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Indeed, Magsayo had really prepared well to fight Gary and become a world champion.
As expected, Gary Russell was experiencing some ring rust while on the other hand, Mark Magsayo was so confident about the fight and we could really see in the first few rounds that Magsayo has the upper hand and Russell was struggling to catch up on Magsayo's moves. But I'm really disappointed about how the judges scored the fight, it was the total opposite on how did the match go.

Congratulations again, Mark "Magnifico" Magsayo on becoming a world champion!

Yeah, Russell has that experience but as I'm saying, it's a pro fight and there's no excuse as it had happened already.

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Have anyone seen Gary Russell interview after the fight, the guy is a sore loser claiming he won the majority of the rounds and teaches Magsayo a lesson in boxing, all he has done in the ring is to run and ducked he doesn't even have an offense claiming that he has one hand, it's not Magsayo's fault why he has that injury what is clear is he clearly losses the fight and none of the judges favors him.

Here is the video of that interview

GARY RUSSELL JR. POST-FIGHT VS. MARK MAGSAYO | TALKS JUDGING, INJURY, REMATCH OR MOVE UP

Yeah, I saw this video earlier and honestly he made me laugh knowing that it's so clear that Mark Magsayo has the advantage of the fight so natrurally the Philippine boxer would be hailed as the winner and the new word champion. I reckon he didn't saw the video of the fight, what he's claiming is the exact opposite of what Mark Magsayo did to him. He can't just accept that he lost Grin

Also, it was Gary Russell's fault why he had injury and that explains why he only used his right hand in the fight.

Gary Russell is a great boxer and already carved his name in the boxing greats, he just cannot accept the loss he is doing a Teofimo Lopez by denying the obvious he is indeed a sore loser, he should just humble himself to gain the admiration of the boxing community, now they are laughing at Russell for being a sore loser, anyway, we looked at the fight even to the eyes of the judges he losses the fight, I lose a bit of respect to Russell for his denial.

Well you're right there mate, there's no doubt that Gary Russell had his own share in the industry and the fact that he's a world champion is already a feat that every boxer have dreamed. But the way he's reacting now isn't going to make people to respect him as it's very obvious that he's been defeated in the fight. He should've just accepted the results of the fight.

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The vote says it All with 19 Magsayo and only 6 for russel?

but also i believe that if Russel has no Injury? then Mark Magsayo will be having more difficult chance of winning.

But at least another Filipino Boxer climb up ring and now having a Belt of his career , congrats and more wins to come .

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Have anyone seen Gary Russell interview after the fight, the guy is a sore loser claiming he won the majority of the rounds and teaches Magsayo a lesson in boxing, all he has done in the ring is to run and ducked he doesn't even have an offense claiming that he has one hand, it's not Magsayo's fault why he has that injury what is clear is he clearly losses the fight and none of the judges favors him.

Here is the video of that interview

GARY RUSSELL JR. POST-FIGHT VS. MARK MAGSAYO | TALKS JUDGING, INJURY, REMATCH OR MOVE UP

The judges score card was already a garbage and him vehemently denying that he lost the game? Shows what kind of loser Gary Russell is.

Yeah, it could be a different outcome if he is not injured, but he should give credit to Magsayo as he has injury in his right shoulder. So how can he win if he can't even throw his money punch?

Anyhow, it open the window for Magsayo and hopefully he can make it big in the US.

That's probably the start of his good career, he will be having a big fight and that would result in a bigger income. He brings honor to our country and at the same time makes his life better financially and more satisfied as he is already a champion. I hope he will not just stop from being a champion of that division, he can go up in weight and become a champion, I think he is even taller than Pacman so it's not possible for him.

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