[Boxing] Gervonta Davis vs. Isaac Cruz - December 5 - page 2.

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Quote from: aioc on December 05, 2021, 08:54:23 PM

Was endlessly looking for a live feed on Facebook for hours until I found this one enjoy the fight hope to see exciting fights here

The last link was taken down and have replaced it now, hopefully, it will not be taken down

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=628490255008919

can't access the link mate , maybe it was taken down already , i am betting for Davis to win this one though Isaac is a tough opponent and really hard to bring down.

anyone who can share live feeds now? i really wanted to watch the fight lol .

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 02:23:07 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 05, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

But Davis is really good as a boxer, actually, I have no idea that Floyd is his promoter. I know some of us here do not like Floyd, but, I respect him because he is good, he doesn't cherry-pick as he fought Canelo and Pacquiao and beat them, what I don't like is his boring boxing style.

You are kidding, right? When you said you don't know that Floyd Mayweather is Davis's promoter when this is not something new within the boxing ecosystem.

No, I'm not, sorry about that. It's just that I'm not interested in Floyd and don't usually bother who promoted a certain fighter until I read it here, but now I know, so I thank those who give me that information.

Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 02:23:07 PM

Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

I don't hate Floyd but not his fan, I just don't like his style in boxing but sometimes I do bet on him, and guess what? I also won because he never lose. Floyd makes you profitable when betting because he is very smart and could dominate his opponent.

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It appears I very much underestimated Isaac Cruz. This Mexican moves like Mike Tyson and he has a great chin. He also fighting more impressively than Gervonta Davis. I think none of Haney and Gervonta deserves to challenge Kambosos for all those championships if Lomachenko wins his fight versus Commey impressively. I am honestly wishing that Isaac Cruz will win this. This is a very good performance.

I'm also underestimated Isaac Cruz too, Isaac Cruz is very impressive in this fight, Davis connected big punches that have knocked out his past opponents, Davis is very technical in this fight he is really a student of Mayweather he knows how to duck those punches and counter punches, he is getting better, Davis needs this kind of fight to show his technical side, he will be facing boxers who are technical in the future like Haney.

Well everyone underestimated Cruz, as we thought that it will be an easy fight for Davis and he will just knock out this guy. And for the record, it was the first time that Davis was extended to full 12 rounds and didn't knock out his opponent out so credit to Isaac for that.

And Davis said that he has broken his left hand in the fifth that's why he wasn't able to knock him out. Maybe it was a testament on how touch Isaac Cruz as we didn't see that he can stand the power of Davis.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 06, 2021, 12:12:42 AM

It appears I very much underestimated Isaac Cruz. This Mexican moves like Mike Tyson and he has a great chin. He also fighting more impressively than Gervonta Davis. I think none of Haney and Gervonta deserves to challenge Kambosos for all those championships if Lomachenko wins his fight versus Commey impressively. I am honestly wishing that Isaac Cruz will win this. This is a very good performance.

I'm also underestimated Isaac Cruz too, Isaac Cruz is very impressive in this fight, Davis connected big punches that have knocked out his past opponents, Davis is very technical in this fight he is really a student of Mayweather he knows how to duck those punches and counter punches, he is getting better, Davis needs this kind of fight to show his technical side, he will be facing boxers who are technical in the future like Haney.

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It appears I very much underestimated Isaac Cruz. This Mexican moves like Mike Tyson and he has a great chin. He also fighting more impressively than Gervonta Davis. I think none of Haney and Gervonta deserves to challenge Kambosos for all those championships if Lomachenko wins his fight versus Commey impressively. I am honestly wishing that Isaac Cruz will win this. This is a very good performance.

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What a fight for both fighters and I think Isaac Cruz doesn't give up easily on his defence until now his face still intact and in good condition. Nut looking at the unofficial scorecard, he is losing the fight because Davis seems to hit him clean and giving him hard time to get an easy shot in the body. Looks like they're just afraid of unleashing their power because both of them can hit a turning counter shot if given a chance.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 05, 2021, 10:33:57 PM

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 05, 2021, 05:58:51 PM

So do you think Mayweather is not cherry picking here? If he knows they have very good advantage, the reason why they chose this fight. Anyway, putting money on Davis but on the over/under category. If this will be another upset in boxing, curious what will be the reaction of Mayweather here...

Issac Cruz will have a hard time against Gervonta Davis, but I never rule out an upset, we've just got a huge upset last week, it's possible to happen again, if there's an upset here I will consider this as the biggest upset of the year, probably much bigger than the Kambosos - Lopez fight, if Isaac can take Davis punches then we are in a big surprise.

I reckon that this might be one of those fights where we can rule out an upset. This might be 90% less of an upset compared to Lopez’s loss versus Kambosos hehe. Similar to what @bisdak has said, Lomachenko was the only boxer with a name in Lopez’s list of wins. There were also mentions of a shoulder injury on Lomachenko’s shoulder during that fight.

Also, Isaac might not take Gervonta’s punches. The fight might be over with a knockout from Gervonta in 7-9 rounds. He will certainly have the motivation to make his win better than Haney’s fight to attract the attention of the promoters and negotiate to give him the next opportunity to challenge Kambosos.

I don't think that Isaac can take Gervonta punches so I'm seeing less than 7 rounds for Davis and scored a knock out win. As his nickname, Pitbull Isaac doesn't play defence and all he do is attack his opponents relentlessly and that will be costly for him against Tank, he might be caught with a left hook like in Leo Santa Cruz fight.

Well, we all know that Haney is pillow fisted anyways, that's why he make it by being more technical, but it's not always going to win against a fighter with heavy handed such as Davis or Ryan Garcia. And his fight is another snoozer, he won though so that's the more important thing for him right now.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 05, 2021, 05:58:51 PM

So do you think Mayweather is not cherry picking here? If he knows they have very good advantage, the reason why they chose this fight. Anyway, putting money on Davis but on the over/under category. If this will be another upset in boxing, curious what will be the reaction of Mayweather here...

Issac Cruz will have a hard time against Gervonta Davis, but I never rule out an upset, we've just got a huge upset last week, it's possible to happen again, if there's an upset here I will consider this as the biggest upset of the year, probably much bigger than the Kambosos - Lopez fight, if Isaac can take Davis punches then we are in a big surprise.

I reckon that this might be one of those fights where we can rule out an upset. This might be 90% less of an upset compared to Lopez’s loss versus Kambosos hehe. Similar to what @bisdak has said, Lomachenko was the only boxer with a name in Lopez’s list of wins. There were also mentions of a shoulder injury on Lomachenko’s shoulder during that fight.

Also, Isaac might not take Gervonta’s punches. The fight might be over with a knockout from Gervonta in 7-9 rounds. He will certainly have the motivation to make his win better than Haney’s fight to attract the attention of the promoters and negotiate to give him the next opportunity to challenge Kambosos.

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Was endlessly looking for a live feed on Facebook for hours until I found this one enjoy the fight hope to see exciting fights here

The last link was taken down and have replaced it now, hopefully, it will not be taken down

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=628490255008919

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We also have have another big fight in the 135 lbs, Haney vs Diaz Jr. So it will be interesting if the winner will face each other.

It wasn't as good as I expected or wanted it to be. The fight was all about Haney target practicing on Diaz Jr. Diaz wasn't letting go of his hands. He was good in his defense. He should be given credit for it but defense cannot win a fight, not in a boxing match. You have to throw away your hardest punches to win. Haney wasn't really a heavy puncher and Diaz was well absorbing those but it was not enough to just not get hurt if he wasn't also making points either.

I was not surprised by the result, Haney was a boxer with no power and he can't knock out anyone in this division, scores where (116-112), (117-111), (117-111).

What was actually surprising was the compubox's counting of punches and those that landed. I was surprised how close it was but if you look at the fight, it seems it was all Haney. Diaz was not throwing at all.

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 05, 2021, 08:02:55 AM

By the looks of it, Kambosos vs Haney is a go, at least from what we saw on the post-fight interview of Haney and Kambosos.

I agree. That fight is already a done deal. But that's only as far as the two fighters are concerned. They seem to be interested in facing each other in Kambosos' home court. Haney didn't find any problem with it.

Let's see how their respective handlers deal with this.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 02:23:07 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 05, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

But Davis is really good as a boxer, actually, I have no idea that Floyd is his promoter. I know some of us here do not like Floyd, but, I respect him because he is good, he doesn't cherry-pick as he fought Canelo and Pacquiao and beat them, what I don't like is his boring boxing style.

You are kidding, right? When you said you don't know that Floyd Mayweather is Davis's promoter when this is not something new within the boxing ecosystem.
Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

I agree though that people hate Davis because of Floyd, simply as that. But for the record though, he fought a very new Canelo, actually it was the first time that we heard the name of Canelo that time, because if was his first time he fought in the US. We know that Floyd vs Manny is long overdue and Pacquiao that time has shoulder injury (no excuses but just telling the facts).

Now though boxing fans are more smart, they only appreciate boxers who fought the best in their division and they don't care if a fighter has 0 lost. Manny was appreciate even though he has a lot of lost because he fought everyone.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 05, 2021, 05:58:51 PM

So do you think Mayweather is not cherry picking here? If he knows they have very good advantage, the reason why they chose this fight. Anyway, putting money on Davis but on the over/under category. If this will be another upset in boxing, curious what will be the reaction of Mayweather here...

Issac Cruz will have a hard time against Gervonta Davis, but I never rule out an upset, we've just got a huge upset last week, it's possible to happen again, if there's an upset here I will consider this as the biggest upset of the year, probably much bigger than the Kambosos - Lopez fight, if Isaac can take Davis punches then we are in a big surprise.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 05, 2021, 04:32:38 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 05, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

But Davis is really good as a boxer, actually, I have no idea that Floyd is his promoter. I know some of us here do not like Floyd, but, I respect him because he is good, he doesn't cherry-pick as he fought Canelo and Pacquiao and beat them, what I don't like is his boring boxing style.

You are kidding, right? When you said you don't know that Floyd Mayweather is Davis's promoter when this is not something new within the boxing ecosystem.
Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

That's how business is being run now, promoters are investing in their boxers so they are protecting them, and as much as possible they will get a fight that they think they have an advantage and at the same time would sell to the crowd. Mayweather is just so smart in doing that because as a boxer and as a promoter, he is a very successful person.

So do you think Mayweather is not cherry picking here? If he knows they have very good advantage, the reason why they chose this fight. Anyway, putting money on Davis but on the over/under category. If this will be another upset in boxing, curious what will be the reaction of Mayweather here...

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 02:23:07 PM

Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

Floyd wants his boxers to be polished before fighting big names, so far Gervonta is doing great he has a pure talent in Gervonta and this guy is his cash cow and top boxer in his promotion I don't think he will risk Gervonta fighting fighters that will give him a run for his money yet, the Rolly Romero fight is an interesting fight compared to this one, Romero has a better chance than Isaac and it's another win for Gervonta at the end of the day.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 02:23:07 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 05, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

But Davis is really good as a boxer, actually, I have no idea that Floyd is his promoter. I know some of us here do not like Floyd, but, I respect him because he is good, he doesn't cherry-pick as he fought Canelo and Pacquiao and beat them, what I don't like is his boring boxing style.

You are kidding, right? When you said you don't know that Floyd Mayweather is Davis's promoter when this is not something new within the boxing ecosystem.
Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

That's how business is being run now, promoters are investing in their boxers so they are protecting them, and as much as possible they will get a fight that they think they have an advantage and at the same time would sell to the crowd. Mayweather is just so smart in doing that because as a boxer and as a promoter, he is a very successful person.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 05, 2021, 08:45:39 AM

But Davis is really good as a boxer, actually, I have no idea that Floyd is his promoter. I know some of us here do not like Floyd, but, I respect him because he is good, he doesn't cherry-pick as he fought Canelo and Pacquiao and beat them, what I don't like is his boring boxing style.

You are kidding, right? When you said you don't know that Floyd Mayweather is Davis's promoter when this is not something new within the boxing ecosystem.
Is not that people hate Floyd, I am personally his fan but I think boxing fans are tired of fighting where the match seems to fix (the Champion going after the fighter people know are easy for him to beat).

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We also have have another big fight in the 135 lbs, Haney vs Diaz Jr. So it will be interesting if the winner will face each other.

By the looks of it, Kambosos vs Haney is a go, at least from what we saw on the post-fight interview of Haney and Kambosos.

If Davis wins his fight against Cruz, I think he will still fight a no-namer as usual.

Floyd should let his fighter fight whoever Davis wants and not cherry-pick like what he did to his career.

So it will be Haney vs Kambosos next? weird, but I think Kambosos take this one.

For Davis and if he wins against a no name in Cruz tonight, and if he continues to cherry pick or at least Floyd does for his young protegee, he won't get the respect that he wanted. Sure he was a great champion, but fighting bums won't surely get his name on top even if his records are without a loss so far. And critics won't give him the credit that he deserves.

Unfortunately this is not something that can be maintained long term as a strategy, the division is full of talent and if he keeps fighting people that have no chance against him then people are going to notice, however if the strategy is to let others fight a bunch of difficult fights, retain his title and then just try to beat one of those fighters in an unification fight then that could be a smart strategy, but that is risky, and that will not give him as much money as he could get if Davis actually fought with the best the division can offer.

It all boils down to business as they say, he needs to maintain his status so he is fighting boxers not name Haney, Ryan Garcia and now George Kambosos (since he dethroned Lopez). That's the blueprint of Floyd's success and Floyd fights big names, it seems they already beat up each other before he fought them, so they are soften. So maybe that's what the strategy is for Haney, let Haney and Garcia and other champions beat each other up before he fights them.

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Quote from: Jating on December 05, 2021, 09:20:39 AM

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We also have have another big fight in the 135 lbs, Haney vs Diaz Jr. So it will be interesting if the winner will face each other.

By the looks of it, Kambosos vs Haney is a go, at least from what we saw on the post-fight interview of Haney and Kambosos.

If Davis wins his fight against Cruz, I think he will still fight a no-namer as usual.

Floyd should let his fighter fight whoever Davis wants and not cherry-pick like what he did to his career.

So it will be Haney vs Kambosos next? weird, but I think Kambosos take this one.

For Davis and if he wins against a no name in Cruz tonight, and if he continues to cherry pick or at least Floyd does for his young protegee, he won't get the respect that he wanted. Sure he was a great champion, but fighting bums won't surely get his name on top even if his records are without a loss so far. And critics won't give him the credit that he deserves.

Unfortunately this is not something that can be maintained long term as a strategy, the division is full of talent and if he keeps fighting people that have no chance against him then people are going to notice, however if the strategy is to let others fight a bunch of difficult fights, retain his title and then just try to beat one of those fighters in an unification fight then that could be a smart strategy, but that is risky, and that will not give him as much money as he could get if Davis actually fought with the best the division can offer.

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Quote from: Jating on December 05, 2021, 09:20:39 AM

So it will be Haney vs Kambosos next? weird, but I think Kambosos take this one.

For Davis and if he wins against a no name in Cruz tonight, and if he continues to cherry pick or at least Floyd does for his young protegee, he won't get the respect that he wanted. Sure he was a great champion, but fighting bums won't surely get his name on top even if his records are without a loss so far. And critics won't give him the credit that he deserves.

I agree Gervonta gain big respect from the boxing community should fight Haney or Kambosos, there are a lot of big fights that we want to see in the lightweight division, these fighters boxers should fight each other, Ryan Garcia, Daven Haney, and Gervonta Davis, and resolve once and for all who is the real kings in that weight division, not only engaging on talks but a fight in the ring.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 05, 2021, 08:02:55 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 04, 2021, 07:40:12 PM

We also have have another big fight in the 135 lbs, Haney vs Diaz Jr. So it will be interesting if the winner will face each other.

By the looks of it, Kambosos vs Haney is a go, at least from what we saw on the post-fight interview of Haney and Kambosos.

If Davis wins his fight against Cruz, I think he will still fight a no-namer as usual.

Floyd should let his fighter fight whoever Davis wants and not cherry-pick like what he did to his career.

So it will be Haney vs Kambosos next? weird, but I think Kambosos take this one.

For Davis and if he wins against a no name in Cruz tonight, and if he continues to cherry pick or at least Floyd does for his young protegee, he won't get the respect that he wanted. Sure he was a great champion, but fighting bums won't surely get his name on top even if his records are without a loss so far. And critics won't give him the credit that he deserves.

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