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May 25, 2021, 06:18:08 AM
#86
Even though I’m not a  big fan of lightweight boxers I shall follow the  progress of the coming fight   to prove the theory that fast legs combined with the fine boxing technique may decide the outcome. Linares seems to have  both technique and legs to counter Haney ... will see, looks like the winner is bound to face Fortuna.  Grin

Linares is a very live underdog here and I think this is the biggest test for Haney's young career. Linares almost upset Loma in their fight so maybe he could give Haney some hard time too.

Just curious, it is only days before the fight but my favorite bookies did not put some odds on their bookies.

Is there news for the postponement of this fight?
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May 03, 2021, 08:06:14 PM
#85
if the fight doesn't end early, linares is going to be defeated.

round 10 makes both fighters weak. most probably both their gas tanks are exhausted before they could throw a knocking punch. still not a punching power that we could consider, it's just that they got tired already, body is going to be a lot heavier to pull up by the 10th round. it's good to watch if they both brawl in the beginning rounds.



Most probably as Haney being the younger fighter here has more energy than Linares, but we can never tell what would happen as Linares has been a champion before and he knows how to win. This is the problem with a fighter being undefeated as lots of expectations from him, he can't lose in the eyes of the people, and his opponent is being underestimated.
Yes, that's one advantage of Haney here, and besides, he is used to have fights that extends to 12 rounds so his body his accustomed to this kind of long and boring fights.

On the other hand, Linares is good in the early rounds, just like what he did against Loma, but faded in late round that's why Loma was able to win despite Linares having knock down Loma. He wasn't able to capitalized with that, and on the contrary Loma take every round after that flash knock down of his.

This is Linares chance to get back on popularity, he should take this seriously and when he does that, it would make this fight interesting that could entertain us more. Haney is boring, but if he will face an opponent that could give him a good competition, I think he will be forced to get out of his comfort zone and will show more aggressiveness.
I agree that this is going to be big test for Haney, Linares is very tough opponent and I'm sure he is going to train seriously, but I would say that he is a B level fighter in my book, just like I said, he has a good chance against Loma, but he blew it off.

So I think the pressure is on Haney's shoulder to perform and win against a old but durable Linares. Jorge will definitely make Haney uncomfortable, but I'm leaning that Haney will win this fight.
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May 03, 2021, 04:14:51 PM
#84
if the fight doesn't end early, linares is going to be defeated.

round 10 makes both fighters weak. most probably both their gas tanks are exhausted before they could throw a knocking punch. still not a punching power that we could consider, it's just that they got tired already, body is going to be a lot heavier to pull up by the 10th round. it's good to watch if they both brawl in the beginning rounds.



Most probably as Haney being the younger fighter here has more energy than Linares, but we can never tell what would happen as Linares has been a champion before and he knows how to win. This is the problem with a fighter being undefeated as lots of expectations from him, he can't lose in the eyes of the people, and his opponent is being underestimated.
Yes, that's one advantage of Haney here, and besides, he is used to have fights that extends to 12 rounds so his body his accustomed to this kind of long and boring fights.

On the other hand, Linares is good in the early rounds, just like what he did against Loma, but faded in late round that's why Loma was able to win despite Linares having knock down Loma. He wasn't able to capitalized with that, and on the contrary Loma take every round after that flash knock down of his.

This is Linares chance to get back on popularity, he should take this seriously and when he does that, it would make this fight interesting that could entertain us more. Haney is boring, but if he will face an opponent that could give him a good competition, I think he will be forced to get out of his comfort zone and will show more aggressiveness.
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May 03, 2021, 09:21:22 AM
#83
if the fight doesn't end early, linares is going to be defeated.

round 10 makes both fighters weak. most probably both their gas tanks are exhausted before they could throw a knocking punch. still not a punching power that we could consider, it's just that they got tired already, body is going to be a lot heavier to pull up by the 10th round. it's good to watch if they both brawl in the beginning rounds.



Most probably as Haney being the younger fighter here has more energy than Linares, but we can never tell what would happen as Linares has been a champion before and he knows how to win. This is the problem with a fighter being undefeated as lots of expectations from him, he can't lose in the eyes of the people, and his opponent is being underestimated.
Yes, that's one advantage of Haney here, and besides, he is used to have fights that extends to 12 rounds so his body his accustomed to this kind of long and boring fights.

On the other hand, Linares is good in the early rounds, just like what he did against Loma, but faded in late round that's why Loma was able to win despite Linares having knock down Loma. He wasn't able to capitalized with that, and on the contrary Loma take every round after that flash knock down of his.
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May 03, 2021, 08:16:07 AM
#82
if the fight doesn't end early, linares is going to be defeated.

round 10 makes both fighters weak. most probably both their gas tanks are exhausted before they could throw a knocking punch. still not a punching power that we could consider, it's just that they got tired already, body is going to be a lot heavier to pull up by the 10th round. it's good to watch if they both brawl in the beginning rounds.



Most probably as Haney being the younger fighter here has more energy than Linares, but we can never tell what would happen as Linares has been a champion before and he knows how to win. This is the problem with a fighter being undefeated as lots of expectations from him, he can't lose in the eyes of the people, and his opponent is being underestimated.
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May 03, 2021, 02:53:57 AM
#81
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.

there's gotta be a knockout in this match. they lightweight but they are heavy hitters. the knockout rates is astonishing. haney winning by knockout or linares which i guess a big win for you.

the odds however is disappointing. if they add some options like which round will linares will fall, that's going to be a big winning odd to bet for haney. I'm guessing in 3rd round?

That's the betting options that I'm waiting for this fight.

However, I don't think that Haney will win by knockout in the 3rd round. Of all the 4 champions, Lopez, Davis, Garcia and himself, he is the one with the pillow fisted. He is somewhat boring but technical and doesn't have the one punch power like the rest of champions. So probably it can go to distance and him winning a close UD. Or if Linares gets tired and then hit with a perfect body shot (his weakness), it could be over in round 10 or less.

That's a good prediction mate, I don't also expect that Haney will KO Linares in the early rounds, his style is different from other aggressive boxers who would want to end the fight right away, he is very careful, follow his plan with discipline but the end he would still win.

I guess the best bet is Haney to win by UD.. that if you want to stay on a safer side, otherwise the opposite of that bet would give you a better odds.
if the fight doesn't end early, linares is going to be defeated.

round 10 makes both fighters weak. most probably both their gas tanks are exhausted before they could throw a knocking punch. still not a punching power that we could consider, it's just that they got tired already, body is going to be a lot heavier to pull up by the 10th round. it's good to watch if they both brawl in the beginning rounds.

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May 02, 2021, 05:38:22 PM
#80
I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.
Even if the tiger is old, if you let your guard down, you will end up getting killed. Linares besides being older than Haney is more experienced than Haney which means that Linares has his ways to destroy Haney even if Haney is younger than him, you are right that it is going to be a challenging fight for him but I am rooting for Linares in this match.

It isn't about age when it comes to boxing but rather experience and skills. As for me, Linares has a huge edge here because he has passed all the tests of time when it comes to this sport. Haney should be ready for this match because it could be his first loss if he'll not have enough preparation.

What do you mean passed all the test? Yes, he has the experienced here I agree, but when he is about to step up the competition, he lost,

(a) against Loma - the best 135 lbs champion back then, he had his time, but unfortunately he got TKO
(b) against Pablo Cesar Cano - Linares try to go up in weight, he didn't face the champion, but boy he was knock out cold
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May 02, 2021, 10:12:58 AM
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I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.
Even if the tiger is old, if you let your guard down, you will end up getting killed. Linares besides being older than Haney is more experienced than Haney which means that Linares has his ways to destroy Haney even if Haney is younger than him, you are right that it is going to be a challenging fight for him but I am rooting for Linares in this match.

It isn't about age when it comes to boxing but rather experience and skills. As for me, Linares has a huge edge here because he has passed all the tests of time when it comes to this sport. Haney should be ready for this match because it could be his first loss if he'll not have enough preparation.
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May 02, 2021, 09:00:27 AM
#78
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.

there's gotta be a knockout in this match. they lightweight but they are heavy hitters. the knockout rates is astonishing. haney winning by knockout or linares which i guess a big win for you.

the odds however is disappointing. if they add some options like which round will linares will fall, that's going to be a big winning odd to bet for haney. I'm guessing in 3rd round?

That's the betting options that I'm waiting for this fight.

However, I don't think that Haney will win by knockout in the 3rd round. Of all the 4 champions, Lopez, Davis, Garcia and himself, he is the one with the pillow fisted. He is somewhat boring but technical and doesn't have the one punch power like the rest of champions. So probably it can go to distance and him winning a close UD. Or if Linares gets tired and then hit with a perfect body shot (his weakness), it could be over in round 10 or less.

That's a good prediction mate, I don't also expect that Haney will KO Linares in the early rounds, his style is different from other aggressive boxers who would want to end the fight right away, he is very careful, follow his plan with discipline but the end he would still win.

I guess the best bet is Haney to win by UD.. that if you want to stay on a safer side, otherwise the opposite of that bet would give you a better odds.
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May 01, 2021, 05:20:52 PM
#77
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.

there's gotta be a knockout in this match. they lightweight but they are heavy hitters. the knockout rates is astonishing. haney winning by knockout or linares which i guess a big win for you.

the odds however is disappointing. if they add some options like which round will linares will fall, that's going to be a big winning odd to bet for haney. I'm guessing in 3rd round?

That's the betting options that I'm waiting for this fight.

However, I don't think that Haney will win by knockout in the 3rd round. Of all the 4 champions, Lopez, Davis, Garcia and himself, he is the one with the pillow fisted. He is somewhat boring but technical and doesn't have the one punch power like the rest of champions. So probably it can go to distance and him winning a close UD. Or if Linares gets tired and then hit with a perfect body shot (his weakness), it could be over in round 10 or less.
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April 30, 2021, 03:32:18 AM
#76


both Garcia and Haney had a great journey to reach career goals. if they both win like Garcia against Fortuna which I guess they've already planned.  would you say all these fights are rigged?  Grin

The Haney- Garcia is not going to happen it will be much sooner when Garcia finally beats the demon in his head, they will likely fight next year if Haney is still interested and they are in the same weight category, Haney badly want to fight Garcia, I guess Haney's road to greatness is to fight Gervonta or Lopez since Garcia is already out of the picture, of course, he had to dispose of, Linares first.
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April 30, 2021, 03:29:08 AM
#75
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.

there's gotta be a knockout in this match. they lightweight but they are heavy hitters. the knockout rates is astonishing. haney winning by knockout or linares which i guess a big win for you.

the odds however is disappointing. if they add some options like which round will linares will fall, that's going to be a big winning odd to bet for haney. I'm guessing in 3rd round?


I don't see a knockout here if Haney will win, the last fight of Haney convince me that he is not a knock-out artist and he does not go all out war against his opponent. Being undefeated, they always look to protect their record and they will not be careless, so probably Haney will beat Linares by points, or if the other way around, it could be Linares beating Haney in a KO, which would be a big surprise.
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April 30, 2021, 03:21:37 AM
#74
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.

there's gotta be a knockout in this match. they lightweight but they are heavy hitters. the knockout rates is astonishing. haney winning by knockout or linares which i guess a big win for you.

the odds however is disappointing. if they add some options like which round will linares will fall, that's going to be a big winning odd to bet for haney. I'm guessing in 3rd round?



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April 29, 2021, 08:48:22 PM
#73
Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
No doubt about that ML, I will not bet on that, better to throw some money on Linares, at least he beats Haney, it will be a big win for us.

Or as you just said, better wait for options, I'm sure bookies are going to open more choices for us. I'm curious as what could be the odds of Haney winning by decision.
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April 29, 2021, 08:44:05 PM
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Haney, Devin  1.08
Linares, Jorge  7.60

Odds will change when the dates come.

Up there is the stake.com odds. It's not very different from the rest of the bookie but I guess you can use this match to bet a small amount for Linares and win more than 7x and then bet some other match a bigger amount. By doing this, you get the chance to win big in case an upset happen while you also have the chance to take back the loss you bet on Linarez match from other matches.

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April 29, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
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Latest odds for those who are curious:



Again, odd makers are putting Haney as outstanding favorite here, not good for ML.

Better wait for other betting options, not worth for Haney, unless you have a big money to gamble as that odds. But for ordinary gamblers like many of us here, not very attractive.

A Linares odds though, if he can only upset Haney here.
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April 24, 2021, 09:10:07 AM
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I'm expecting a very close odds here, although there is none yet for now, Haney might be slight favourite and ML might be good to bet here.

Odds will be very close here, things will be interesting once the fight is getting closer, Linares is a serious opposition, the name Linares was mentioned in Garcia's last fight I thought Garcia will fight Linares but it's the other way around, I believe Haney will win the fight, but I don't count Linares out he can be a spoiler on Haney's great career.

No, the odds will never be close, Haney here is the heavy favorite, you can read this.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/haney-linares-odds/

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Haney vs Linares Odds
Fighter   Odds
Devin Haney   -700, (1/7)
Jorge Linares   +450, (9/2)

Looking at the odds, it seems Linares has a slim chance.
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April 24, 2021, 08:48:00 AM
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I'm expecting a very close odds here, although there is none yet for now, Haney might be slight favourite and ML might be good to bet here.

Odds will be very close here, things will be interesting once the fight is getting closer, Linares is a serious opposition, the name Linares was mentioned in Garcia's last fight I thought Garcia will fight Linares but it's the other way around, I believe Haney will win the fight, but I don't count Linares out he can be a spoiler on Haney's great career.
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April 24, 2021, 08:23:10 AM
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I want the Haney and Garcia fight but will not accept that they go to the fight because there is an intervention like rigging a fight

Where did you hear that speculation? rigging a fight is a big accusation, and these are champions of their own division, I don't think they'll ruined their reputation by just rigging a fight, no, it's not gonna happen, if they have plans, we will never know.
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April 24, 2021, 06:40:20 AM
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everybody isn't very much confident whether haney will really make it to win against the veteran. so are you guys up to win a big amount since the odds are really favorable for you who believed Linares's experience.

both Garcia and Haney had a great journey to reach career goals. if they both win like Garcia against Fortuna which I guess they've already planned.  would you say all these fights are rigged?  Grin

Of course, I would not rule out upsets Linares is still capable and he still can knock out people if he landed a good clean punch and so is Fortuna, both Fortuna and Linares will not rig a fight because they know what is at stake on their fight it will give then a huge opportunity, title and money, I want the Haney and Garcia fight but will not accept that they go to the fight because there is an intervention like rigging a fight
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