[Boxing]: Haney vs Linares - May 29 - page 5.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2021, 05:05:37 AM

This is definitely a great fight, Linares is not an easy opponent, though already at 35 years old but he is a durable man. I'm guessing here, Linares is the underdog? So I guess I'll be betting on him and see if he can upset Haney which is the undefeated and a very young fighter.

^ Age gap in boxing almost does not matter. I had the same thoughts when Manny Pacquaio fought against Thurman, the age gap was too big but look what happened. We also have to consider experience besides capability and possible strength advantages. Skill is better than strength they said. Hence, The Golden Boy still has it. Nevertheless, for this match of Haney and Linares, I would place my side with the young one. I have seen him fight and he is impressive. He just had to be careful and never ever be comfortable fighting against the Golden Boy cause he might get things he never experienced yet.

That's true but only for exceptional fighter like Manny, he is a legendary while Linares achievement is not even close as to Manny's achievement. Also, Linares is not old though, he is only 35 years old and I think that is still considered young in the sports of boxing, in the end, it still depend on how he will perform in this fight.

They are incomparable as of the moment because Manny is far too older that Linares and their achievements are also too far.

But When they are at the same age and level? their ability and capacity is almost the same as i Have watched Manny Pacquiao Grow Old.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 08, 2021, 09:39:53 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2021, 05:05:37 AM

This is definitely a great fight, Linares is not an easy opponent, though already at 35 years old but he is a durable man. I'm guessing here, Linares is the underdog? So I guess I'll be betting on him and see if he can upset Haney which is the undefeated and a very young fighter.

^ Age gap in boxing almost does not matter. I had the same thoughts when Manny Pacquaio fought against Thurman, the age gap was too big but look what happened. We also have to consider experience besides capability and possible strength advantages. Skill is better than strength they said. Hence, The Golden Boy still has it. Nevertheless, for this match of Haney and Linares, I would place my side with the young one. I have seen him fight and he is impressive. He just had to be careful and never ever be comfortable fighting against the Golden Boy cause he might get things he never experienced yet.

That's true but only for exceptional fighter like Manny, he is a legendary while Linares achievement is not even close as to Manny's achievement. Also, Linares is not old though, he is only 35 years old and I think that is still considered young in the sports of boxing, in the end, it still depend on how he will perform in this fight.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2021, 05:05:37 AM

This is definitely a great fight, Linares is not an easy opponent, though already at 35 years old but he is a durable man. I'm guessing here, Linares is the underdog? So I guess I'll be betting on him and see if he can upset Haney which is the undefeated and a very young fighter.

^ Age gap in boxing almost does not matter. I had the same thoughts when Manny Pacquaio fought against Thurman, the age gap was too big but look what happened. We also have to consider experience besides capability and possible strength advantages. Skill is better than strength they said. Hence, The Golden Boy still has it. Nevertheless, for this match of Haney and Linares, I would place my side with the young one. I have seen him fight and he is impressive. He just had to be careful and never ever be comfortable fighting against the Golden Boy cause he might get things he never experienced yet.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 07, 2021, 06:48:04 PM

So it's now official, Haney will be facing Linares for his WBC Lightweight title. This is going to be an exciting and close fight. Linares gave Loma all he can take and even score a flash knock down, and obviously he has the experienced in this fight. So Haney will be tested here for sure, but I think he can adjust and will probably win by decision here.

I'm expecting a very close odds here, although there is none yet for now, Haney might be slight favourite and ML might be good to bet here.

Linares' had a great fight against Lomachenko but that was 3 years ago. Since then he has lost by knockout. He is a very shopworn fighter and a perfect opponent for Haney to look good against.

I checked the odds at proboxingodds.com and all the bookmakers have Haney as a clear favorite. I'm expecting him to win an easy unanimous decision but considering Linares' weak chin I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in a knockout.

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I guess I will go for Haney here and it will I guess Linares belongs to the underdog odds.
Both fighters are aggressive and have a good previous fought. You will never tell if who's gonna win but if you will look at the record, Haney has a great advantage, with zero losses, 15 by knockout, and 10 by decision is pretty good stats if you will be compared to Linares.

Let's see and wait because even me, I have doubted where I'm going to place may bet and its looks like they are both good fighter.

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HANEY
1/7
(-714)

LINARES
4/1
(+400)

That's too low. Are they underestimating Linares or this fight will just be a stepping stone for Haney?
The Undefeated young gun versus the veteran. I doubt they will let them stain his record.

Last fight for Haney was with Gamboa 11/2020 while Linares was with Morales 2/2020.
Young guy is still hot from his win and his body is still in shape.
Linares would need to train hard to make the chances higher so that he won't eat what he says in social media. Grin

Let's see.

the odds at stake is at 1.13 vs. 5.80, in favour of haney. so more then likely most bookies will favour haney here. this will be a good fight to watch. not betting yet, but watching how odds will change in a week, if theres any. lets see...
if both parties will have rigid training, i guess this fight will be a close one.

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Quote from: yazher on April 08, 2021, 07:31:24 AM

The best test so far for the champ and this will be his greatest wall. guys, if he can beat Linares easily then, he can beat anyone after that because we can assure that he is quietly improving after winning some fight. The date of the fight will be enough for him to train some deadly secret weapon to surprise his opponent in the ring. That's what champion does, they create some new moves to counter their opponents deadly technique.

You are right here mate, this is the biggest test for Haney's career and i could say that if ever he could beat Linares he could beat anyone in this division. For me, the real threat for him is still Loma and Lopez win against the latter is a fluke (just me).

About that secret weapon, you can't change fighter's style overnight so i don't think that this would happen. Adjustment on what to do during the fight if ever needed is what the trainers would yell at their fighter during the fight.

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The best test so far for the champ and this will be his greatest wall. guys, if he can beat Linares easily then, he can beat anyone after that because we can assure that he is quietly improving after winning some fight. The date of the fight will be enough for him to train some deadly secret weapon to surprise his opponent in the ring. That's what champion does, they create some new moves to counter their opponents deadly technique.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 07, 2021, 08:07:29 PM

I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.

This is going to be Haney's most challenging fight so far in his entire career. That's why with odds of 1/8 or at least -800 as per bet365, I think that's too high and simply not worth it. Linares' 9/2 or +450 seems more interesting to me.

Same thought.

The one who will win this fight is the one who knows how to take the advantage. For example for Linares, he has the upper hand when it comes to experience and techniques, however his power would not be that much compare to Devin Haney because he's much younger but still lacks in experience when it comes to boxing. They have their own advantages, but I think the favor would go to Devin Haney since based on his record, he has no losses compare to linares that has two.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 08, 2021, 05:30:47 AM

HANEY
1/7
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LINARES
4/1
(+400)

That's too low. Are they underestimating Linares or this fight will just be a stepping stone for Haney?
The Undefeated young gun versus the veteran. I doubt they will let them stain his record.

Last fight for Haney was with Gamboa 11/2020 while Linares was with Morales 2/2020.
Young guy is still hot from his win and his body is still in shape.
Linares would need to train hard to make the chances higher so that he won't eat what he says in social media. Grin

Let's see.

Probably this is the case why the odds are that low for Linares, and maybe his team thinks the same that it will be just another match for Haney to win because Linares is no longer his best version. The match with Gamboa though, I wasn't impressed with Haney. His excuse is that he comes from a long layoff and he has some ring rust.

For Linares to win, the same strategy against Loma, beat him to the punch and go toe to toe and hope that he can land flash on Haney's chin and see if he can take it.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 08, 2021, 05:30:47 AM

HANEY
1/7
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LINARES
4/1
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That's too low. Are they underestimating Linares or this fight will just be a stepping stone for Haney?
The Undefeated young gun versus the veteran. I doubt they will let them stain his record.

Last fight for Haney was with Gamboa 11/2020 while Linares was with Morales 2/2020.
Young guy is still hot from his win and his body is still in shape.
Linares would need to train hard to make the chances higher so that he won't eat what he says in social media. Grin

Let's see.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 07, 2021, 08:07:29 PM

I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.

This is going to be Haney's most challenging fight so far in his entire career. That's why with odds of 1/8 or at least -800 as per bet365, I think that's too high and simply not worth it. Linares' 9/2 or +450 seems more interesting to me.

If not for that liver shot that put him down for good, Linares could have won that fight against Lomachenco. The guy still pack a punch and still got some speed too and against Haney i think Jorge is a very live underdog.

Yup, Haney was not so impressive against Gamboa while Linares almost beat the great Loma back then so betting for Linares is the way to go here.

I guess I'll follow here, the odds is +400 ( if its true) for Linaris to win, so that's x3 winning of our bet. Linares is still at 35 years old, old but not old enough and his experience is almost twice as Haney, so experience wise, he has the edge. I'm sure Linares aint no left over.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 07, 2021, 08:07:29 PM

I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.

This is going to be Haney's most challenging fight so far in his entire career. That's why with odds of 1/8 or at least -800 as per bet365, I think that's too high and simply not worth it. Linares' 9/2 or +450 seems more interesting to me.

If not for that liver shot that put him down for good, Linares could have won that fight against Lomachenco. The guy still pack a punch and still got some speed too and against Haney i think Jorge is a very live underdog.

Yup, Haney was not so impressive against Gamboa while Linares almost beat the great Loma back then so betting for Linares is the way to go here.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2021, 05:05:37 AM

This is definitely a great fight, Linares is not an easy opponent, though already at 35 years old but he is a durable man. I'm guessing here, Linares is the underdog?

Linaris with 47 wins and 5 loses, while Devin Haney ahs 25 wins with 0 loses. I can say this is a big test of Devin Haney, last fight wasn't that impressive as he was not able to KO Gamboa, but let's see if that will happen here.

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So I guess I'll be betting on him and see if he can upset Haney which is the undefeated and a very young fighter.

For sure the odds are very much attractive because Linares is up against an undefeted fighter.

We can check the odds listing here https://box.live/boxing-betting/haney-vs-linares-odds/

HANEY
1/7
(-714)

LINARES
4/1
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Quote from: Baofeng on April 07, 2021, 06:48:04 PM

Devin Haney vs Jorge Linares May 29

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So it's now official, Haney will be facing Linares for his WBC Lightweight title. This is going to be an exciting and close fight. Linares gave Loma all he can take and even score a flash knock down, and obviously he has the experienced in this fight. So Haney will be tested here for sure, but I think he can adjust and will probably win by decision here.

I'm expecting a very close odds here, although there is none yet for now, Haney might be slight favourite and ML might be good to bet here.

Another exciting bout .. But I will pass for a while unless i will Win in Cotto vs. Marquez fight because my Budget for gambling is for Manny Pacquiao's Fight soon.

But Yeah it is Haney to be my favorite in this one.

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This is definitely a great fight, Linares is not an easy opponent, though already at 35 years old but he is a durable man. I'm guessing here, Linares is the underdog? So I guess I'll be betting on him and see if he can upset Haney which is the undefeated and a very young fighter.

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This is a most watch match, we have waited for this for so long linares age not withstanding he will battle to remain the world light weight champion. young Haney have brought the challenge I believe he is prepared for this fight.

It will be hard pressed for Linares to capture the belt again, there are a lot of young blood in that division. I agree that this might be the biggest test for Haney at this point of his career, as Jorge Linares has the experience. But his age could be the biggest factor here. He has to fight a young Haney who I think is about in the peak while he is on the downside.

Odds will be good for Linares here, but it's hard to see how he can win against a young Haney who wants to prove that he should be considered among the best in the pretty much stack up lighweight division.

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the champion wouldn't be a champion if he isn't a badass boxer. Linares is a precise hitter, you can tell by the way how he knocks his previous fights. it's going to be worrisome to see how he can cope up with the younger boxer while he isn't in his prime now. Probably a close fight if you just weigh in the experience. Daney has no loss, a power puncher and younger who can stand back up again once knocked.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 07, 2021, 08:07:29 PM

I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.

This is going to be Haney's most challenging fight so far in his entire career. That's why with odds of 1/8 or at least -800 as per bet365, I think that's too high and simply not worth it. Linares' 9/2 or +450 seems more interesting to me.

I sincerely hope that this is not Linares underrating young Hanney. Although Linares has got the experience, there is something about the young blood. The burning desire to win and overcome. If Linares doesn't bend his back to train and practice hard for this fight Haney might just shock us all with a win.

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Quote from: Darker45 on April 07, 2021, 08:07:29 PM

I'm thinking that my money would go for Linares. An old man, yes, 13 years Haney's senior as a matter of fact, but I think he's still got the power in him. He's past his prime, no doubt about it, but so is Haney not yet thoroughly tested inside the ring. He's got a UD against the older and fading Yuriorkis. So I wouldn't consider it a test in his career.

Even if the tiger is old, if you let your guard down, you will end up getting killed. Linares besides being older than Haney is more experienced than Haney which means that Linares has his ways to destroy Haney even if Haney is younger than him, you are right that it is going to be a challenging fight for him but I am rooting for Linares in this match.

Now, let's wait for the 29th of May and see where our money goes.

Anyway, I don't have a problem that Haney is ahead in the betting odds. That's reasonable enough. He's the young rising star, after all; the promising one. But I have some issues with how high it is that I am tempted to just risk my little amount to Linares, the only man who fell Loma. The man has not completely faded. I believe he's still got it in him. +450 for him is enticing enough.

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