[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 35.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on January 25, 2020, 07:29:32 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2020, 04:14:16 PM

Decision: Casimero
TKO: Inoue

I don't think the fight will go the distance. Whoever wins, it will be by KO or TKO.

Would have the same comment on here.Its unlikely for it to finished to have the decision yet this will surely end up on a TKO.Casimero can really handle out big punches way more that Donaire same as said above.
When it comes to defense Casimero would really have it but lets see if how many heavy blows can he take from the Monster Inoue.This is really a chance for Casimero to revenge his fellow countrymens loss with Inoue.
The preparation for such fight would really be that short if it would happen on April but still its on TBA where chances it still can be moved.

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Quote from: Rosilito on January 24, 2020, 09:05:28 AM

Not trying to be biased, but though it is a lot of fight, I don't think that it is necessary in this fight? They are both developed and experienced fighting a former champion. So, this might going to be a battle of boxing intelligence rather than experience and power alone.

How do you think boxers become smart or intelligent? They have their training with their coach and by using them in the ring. Nothing beats experience in teaching anyone a lesson and that 14 fights could have given Casimero more knowledge on how to handle different adversities in the ring.

It is true that Inoue has had a decent number of fights and the last one probably thought him a lot but we also have to consider that it is his debut in the US. I'm not saying that that will make him lose but who knows if fighting in a totally new place could affect him.

Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2020, 04:14:16 PM

Decision: Casimero
TKO: Inoue

I don't think the fight will go the distance. Whoever wins, it will be by KO or TKO.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2020, 04:14:16 PM

Let's face the fact here especially to my fellow PH mates, Casimero should be no doubt the picks by most Filipinos but we can't just deny the fact that Inoue is the most dominant boxer against these two. If Inoue will be 100% ready by March, I see he will take this win at 60/40 chances. Right now he is still recovering from the impact he received from Donaire and just recently came back to the gym so for a fair fight, I hope he will fully be recovered so no reason at all.

I'm with Casimero here and as from PH, I'm rooting for him, as always for every PH fight. But this time, I will admit that I see Inoue has the advantages here.

Decision: Casimero
TKO: Inoue

For me, it's the other way around if Casimero can land a clean one just like he did with Tete he can win by a knockout, Casimero is tough he is even tougher than Donaire I'm pretty sure he can take big punches, I'm looking on each fighter latest fights and I think both fighters is very much equal it could go either way but I'm rooting for Casimero right now.

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Let's face the fact here especially to my fellow PH mates, Casimero should be no doubt the picks by most Filipinos but we can't just deny the fact that Inoue is the most dominant boxer against these two. If Inoue will be 100% ready by March, I see he will take this win at 60/40 chances. Right now he is still recovering from the impact he received from Donaire and just recently came back to the gym so for a fair fight, I hope he will fully be recovered so no reason at all.

I'm with Casimero here and as from PH, I'm rooting for him, as always for every PH fight. But this time, I will admit that I see Inoue has the advantages here.

Decision: Casimero
TKO: Inoue

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 24, 2020, 04:19:10 AM

For me this is 50/50 as Casimero could win this fight and might ruin the debut of Inoue fighting on foreign soil. Casimero is not a technical fighter like Donaire but he does have a punch that can knock opponents like a smaller Inoue.

Can't wait to see the odds the bookies will put in here, high chance that Inoue is the favorite here.

Just imagine if Casimero derails, Inoue US pro debut, that will be huge, similar to what Ruiz did to AJ

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So yeah, 50/50 here, there could be some upsets as Casimero is capable of doing that in his career. This is not by any chance a so called revenge fight. Of course, Pinoys will be behind Casimero here, but it doesn't mean he will try to avenge Nonito's lost.

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They should come out with a date now because if there is no date it's just a possibility this fight should materialize so both fighters can really test their toughness, we all know that both fighters are tough, but you can only be tough when you are facing a fighter that is as tough as you, this is going to be a must-watch, and boxing fans will definitely talk this match.

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This fight will be bigger this 2020, both fighters are strong and fast, Casimero is a veteran and he's been to a lot of war and so is Inoue, this will be a big test for both fighter's career, I'll go for Casimero he is slightly ahead in my analysis and of course, he is also my favorite, if he is lucky he could knock out Inoue, I hope there will be a date for this fight.

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Quote from: Mahanton on January 23, 2020, 09:09:08 AM

Those numbers arent only a show-off and we know on what are the capabilities of Naoya.He wont reach that spot if havent any skills.
Honestly,i do really like for Casimero to win the fight but he should be ready to toughen up his lower body for heavy possible shots would made by Inoue.
If he can stand for longer rounds or does have that stamina and make some good counters then he might win.

I have known that Naoya Inoue can be a tough contender for Casimero since that fight with Donaire is a hard one and taking down the champion like that is a feat he attained, that Moniker "MONSTER" is not for show and his devastating punches can not be taken so lightly by Casimero, but I still had high hopes that even if he doesn't achieve beating Inoue but giving him a hard time as well, but I am still hoping he is able to beat him.

Quote from: MWesterweele on January 23, 2020, 09:57:18 AM

I hope that Casimero will win this fight, since it is difficult to predict who is having more potential to win this fight, Casimero is a good filipino fighter and have a great standing and statistics, but Inoue is like mayweather in his stat, NO record of loss, if I am not mistaken, this could be a great fight, but a difficult for us gamblers to bet on who's side gonna win this one, will watch more of their fight for me to decide.

I also hope that Casimero can bring glory to the Filipino and offer to us the win that Donaire did not attain, This fight is indeed a very hard one to predict both fighters had great style, punching power but I think the toughness to take the punch and damage and the determination is the thing they need, but I also hope that John Reil Casimero can win this fight.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 23, 2020, 08:22:28 PM

Boxing records check for John Riel Casimero and Naoya Inoue;
John Riel Casimero has totally the advantage of boxing records with 29-4-0.
The only advantage of Naoya Inoue here is he is still undefeated. This is probably the biggest advantage of Naoya Inoue against John Riel Casimero, since having 0 loss is very important and inspiring.
Reach and height is also favor of Naoya Inoue, hmmmm. Seems like we will see a nice odds for this match. Looking forward to a better odds here.

Try to look on what happened between Nonito Donaire and Inoue. Even though that they do have gaps on experience but still he defeated Nonito but well
its considerable yet when we do talk about age difference.This casimero would be different which hes isnt too old and do still have that aggressiveness.
I agree on some sentiments that he should prepare to received strong body blows on which Inoue is known for.

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Quote from: aioc on January 24, 2020, 08:27:45 AM

I like this happen more than the fight against Dasmarinas both fighters are unconventional they are both fast and strong puncher, of course, I would be betting on Casimero he is my top favorites among up and rising Filipino fighters and he can pull a big upset here, I'm pretty sure Inoue will be the favorite here.

Lots of Casimero fans here, in his last fight he was also an underdog, Tete was (-250) against him but he beat Tete via KO before the 12 round and Tete that time was underestimating Casimero so he was surprise as he wasn't expecting that easy KO. ( he had surely learn from that)>

moving to this fight, both fighters came from a win, but Inoue having trouble against Donaire, and I like how Casimero is calling this fight.
in an interview IIRC, he calls, "monster lets fight".. Grin

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Quote from: Natalim on January 23, 2020, 06:21:23 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on January 23, 2020, 05:58:09 PM

It looks like Casimiro wants revenge from the loss of his fellow Filipino brother Donaire to the hands of Inoue. That was unexpected coz I know Donaire got speed as shown in his previous fight but Inoue does big shots.

He can do that, he wants some revenge for his fellow filipino boxer, but in terms of speedy by Donaire, I think he has slowed down, and in that fight against Inoue, it was Inoue who is the speedy fighter.

Donaire's getting old already, he must be slowing down. And Inoue is far more younger than Donaire, so may be age does matter in his battle, I guess so? (I'm not generalizing, it was may be in Donaire and Inoue fight that age come in, as an advantage). For experience? Nah, not literally Inoue already had a great boxing journey, and definitely Donaire too.

But man, this fight isn't going to be on who's more quick. Casimiro been carrying this great purpose, so he will definitely fighting Inoue with an additional revenge punch power lol.

Quote from: rosezionjohn on January 24, 2020, 07:51:53 AM

I'm reading some what appears emotional comments from my countrymen here. Chill out and let's look at the match up more objectively Cheesy

Thanks @GreatArkansas for posting their fight records. Looking at it now, Casimero's more experience in the ring could play a big part if he is going to win. Despite being only two years older, he has accumulated 14 more fights than Inoue. Oh boy, Inoue may be a huge favorite because of his undefeated record but he is facing a guy who is battle tested and has power.

Not trying to be biased, but though it is a lot of fight, I don't think that it is necessary in this fight? They are both developed and experienced fighting a former champion. So, this might going to be a battle of boxing intelligence rather than experience and power alone.

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I like this happen more than the fight against Dasmarinas both fighters are unconventional they are both fast and strong puncher, of course, I would be betting on Casimero he is my top favorites among up and rising Filipino fighters and he can pull a big upset here, I'm pretty sure Inoue will be the favorite here.

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I'm reading some what appears emotional comments from my countrymen here. Chill out and let's look at the match up more objectively Cheesy

Thanks @GreatArkansas for posting their fight records. Looking at it now, Casimero's more experience in the ring could play a big part if he is going to win. Despite being only two years older, he has accumulated 14 more fights than Inoue. Oh boy, Inoue may be a huge favorite because of his undefeated record but he is facing a guy who is battle tested and has power.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 23, 2020, 03:19:58 AM

this is one of the biggest fight Filipino has been waiting,because Inoue is being tagged as a young Pacquiao while Casimero is a Filipino fighter that will not let foreign boxer to take the title from Manny.

Are you serious? How can he take the title from Manny? He has nothing to prove to our Filipino Boxer Manny Pacquiao that have a great career in defeating many opponents and rivals. Inoue will never be the same as young Pacquiao even if he's undefeated in a professional career. Although he defeated Nonito Donaire which is a Filipino, that doesn't mean that he can be in the same level as Pacquiao.

are you serious also?did anyone here says that "He Took" the title from Manny?what i said he was tagged as young Pacquiao the way he fought but that is not necessarily mean he was already awarded as Pacquiao,and i will not also let that happen because there are so many great boxers in Philippines that can be like Manny,Pinoys are one of the greatest fighter ever lived since from the past from Flash Elorde and many more.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 23, 2020, 03:19:58 AM

while you are right that i thought it was Dasmarinas but it is fine because if Casimero did not beat inoue then he will have a chance to take it.

Casimero is much better than Michael Dasmarinas, although they have same Filipino blood. Johnriel Casimero is enough to beat Inoue with his devastating hand that defeated Zolani Tete in his latest matchup in Birmingham. In that fight, you can see that Casimero is really undisputed inside the boxing ring.

all boxers has their own way of defeating opponent ,remember that even Manny Pacquiao Lose to Marquez with just a solid Blow because of over confidence and this is why Casimero must not give this chance to the Japanese boxer.

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Quote from: DarkDays on January 23, 2020, 05:29:59 PM

As far as I'm aware, Inoue doesn't speak good English, which could limit his appeal to western audiences, particularly with the huge number of interviews and media appearances that fighters are expected to complete these days.

Good observation man. I hope Top Rank will do something about it just like what they did to Manny Pacquiao when he first fight in the US soil, he too doesn't speak good English at that time.

Quote from: DarkDays on January 23, 2020, 05:29:59 PM

Let's see if he takes full advantage of the US platform and gets the respect he deserves.

For me this is 50/50 as Casimero could win this fight and might ruin the debut of Inoue fighting on foreign soil. Casimero is not a technical fighter like Donaire but he does have a punch that can knock opponents like a smaller Inoue.

Can't wait to see the odds the bookies will put in here, high chance that Inoue is the favorite here.

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This is going to be a very difficult battle for Casimero. Inoue is still at his peak. He's got very quick hands, strong punches, amazing footwork, and so on. This young man did not go the distance for most of his fights but he has proven in his recent match against Nonito that he could very well go up to 12 rounds fighting toe to toe without slowing down.

For sure, Casimero will be a huge underdog in this match. He might probably be receiving a much higher odds for this, much higher than when he faced Tete and won.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 23, 2020, 10:26:22 PM

Quote from: Heartilly on January 23, 2020, 07:28:52 PM

Why do others think that Casimero wants revenge to Inoue because the latter defeat Donaire?

Do you really think just because Inoue won against Donaire, Casimero showed interest in revenge?

Absolutely no. That's a mandatory fight and it was a lineup before taking a unification for Inoue, only if he will defeat Casimero.

It's doesn't work that way though, at least personally I don't think like that.

Filipino though are very nationalistic that's why some of them boxing fans thinks that it will be a revenge fight for Casimero, unless Casimero himself confirmed it, but I doubt about that. They are not related at all, maybe it was a good spin on this fight to promote it.

That's right, they are both professionals and revenge will only stress their mind during training. There is also no reason for revenge since Inoue won with a clean fight and no doubt that he dominated Donaire in their fight.

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Interesting match up. This match could define both fighters. Casimero will have to prove himself again as one of the greatest Filipino fighter of all time, while Inoue on the other end, continuing his dominance in his weight division.
Inoue is quick and explosive, his win against Donaire is good, but let's consider Nonito is already aging. Now, let's take it from this match If Inoue is really an excellent fighter.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 23, 2020, 03:19:58 AM

this is one of the biggest fight Filipino has been waiting,because Inoue is being tagged as a young Pacquiao while Casimero is a Filipino fighter that will not let foreign boxer to take the title from Manny.

Are you serious? How can he take the title from Manny? He has nothing to prove to our Filipino Boxer Manny Pacquiao that have a great career in defeating many opponents and rivals. Inoue will never be the same as young Pacquiao even if he's undefeated in a professional career. Although he defeated Nonito Donaire which is a Filipino, that doesn't mean that he can be in the same level as Pacquiao.

Quote from: peter0425 on January 23, 2020, 03:19:58 AM

while you are right that i thought it was Dasmarinas but it is fine because if Casimero did not beat inoue then he will have a chance to take it.

Casimero is much better than Michael Dasmarinas, although they have same Filipino blood. Johnriel Casimero is enough to beat Inoue with his devastating hand that defeated Zolani Tete in his latest matchup in Birmingham. In that fight, you can see that Casimero is really undisputed inside the boxing ring.

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Quote from: Heartilly on January 23, 2020, 07:28:52 PM

Why do others think that Casimero wants revenge to Inoue because the latter defeat Donaire?

Do you really think just because Inoue won against Donaire, Casimero showed interest in revenge?

Absolutely no. That's a mandatory fight and it was a lineup before taking a unification for Inoue, only if he will defeat Casimero.

It's doesn't work that way though, at least personally I don't think like that.

Filipino though are very nationalistic that's why some of them boxing fans thinks that it will be a revenge fight for Casimero, unless Casimero himself confirmed it, but I doubt about that. They are not related at all, maybe it was a good spin on this fight to promote it.

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