[Boxing] Jake Paul vs iShowSpeed - page 2.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

So after Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson a few days ago, a bunch of UFC wrestlers offer to ~~beat him up~~ fight him in the ring.

And then iShowSpeed the streamer comes in and says he could beat this guy in a boxing match if he professionally trained for 6 months.

Then Jake Paul's manager offers him $20 million for the fight. $10m of it if he beats Paul.

Do you guys think this match-up will happen?

Me, personally, I don't think so, but I've seen more outlandish things happen.

I understand all the hype that Jake Paul's every fight had, he was fighting those who were famous and popular a few years ago, they were also actually fighters and people were mostly paying to see their fights, not Jake Paul himself. So, I don't understand what's the point of Jake Paul vs iShowSpeed? Why the heck is this guy even popular?

Jake Paul is good at marketing, if he offers him $20 million dollars, then I'm sure Jake expects this fight to sell well. I don't watch Jake and iShowSpeed, so that's why I can't talk confidently about how good idea it is for them to fight but at the moment, I find it boring but I believe that this fight will happen if it's really profitable for Jake and it's not a funny conversation between them.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

So after Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson a few days ago...

The sound of that "beat" made me grin but then that's what we will call it even though we now know it was scripted.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 20, 2024, 04:18:08 AM

This isn't about the sports anymore but financial gains and popularity and social media followers.

Honestly, from my observation too; I think it's becoming ludicrous. Perhaps, I won't be taking anything outside the professional boxing bouts as something serious again. Even if it's a cross with UFC fighters, I'm bound to believe it's rigged; just like what we had with the two Francis Ngannou fights with Fury and AJ.

Now, YouTubers are beginning to believe they can allow themselves a few punches in the mouth, and here and there, and then go home after an hour or so with cool cash. It's going to be a trend very soon.

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Physically, he is gifted, and I think IShowSpeed can take on Jake Paul. If he does, it would be a good fight. Training for continuously six months might not be enough, but if it’s the professional coach, maybe they could somehow speed up the process. His name is Speed, so he might do it.

I hope this is not just some money-grabbing thing again.

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Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Man these matches keep getting crazier. I wonder who watches these and who sings up for Netflix or whatever modern pay to view alternative for such a thing. Really the boys that used to watch Logan on YouTube might be eager to see his face smashed, but really his matches seem to be so oddly rigged every time. They just use every virslity trick in the book and yet Logan keeps getting away with some terrible matches that everyone regrets watching.

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

Trying to say the matches were rigged on scripted basically for entertainment and audience getting lost of it believing they are real matches?
Just trying to understand if that what you mean because It has been speculating that this past match between Paul and Tyson was a fixed match.

Could really be or not. I don't know. There has also been speculations of how much Tyson has made in the match that was to say the match must have been a manipulation on the insightments of of trickily enrich this big Whale boxer of Tyson's.
I myself is just lost of this whole scenarios about this match.

When it comes on being rigged then its already understandable or will really be normal that there would really be those times or moments that we would really be having thoughts that it is really that indeed having those possible manipulation. For those who do make out some bets on exhibition fights then this is something that will really be having those possibilities yet its been an exhibition in the first place on which results or outcomes
could really be that totally that opposing on what you are really that anticipating or even on the entire sports bettors on which basing up on history of a certain fighter then you could be able to tell on who do have that advantage. Yes, Mike might be old but we've seen tons of chances on finishing up the fight via TKO but since this is scripted then you could be able to see those stopping in midway.

Now that Jake vs a Youtuber on which this isnt really that something you could tell that this guy is a fighter then it is really that common sense that you will be betting on Jake but if it turned out that it will be giving out some opposite result then its not really that shocking anymore.

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^^ Thanks for bringing this up, I just saw this video on Tiktok and by the looks of it, Tyson is holding and not wanting to damage Jake Paul.

But then again, that's what we call, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". That's the first thing that I heard from coach Freddy Roach before when Pacquaio fought Oscar dela Hoya. You can see in that fight that Oscar has some opening, but it seems that he is not punching.

And probably that is more on mental from this boxer, that they can't really punch like they should do it and something is holding them back.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on November 23, 2024, 02:08:43 AM

Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Man these matches keep getting crazier. I wonder who watches these and who sings up for Netflix or whatever modern pay to view alternative for such a thing. Really the boys that used to watch Logan on YouTube might be eager to see his face smashed, but really his matches seem to be so oddly rigged every time. They just use every virslity trick in the book and yet Logan keeps getting away with some terrible matches that everyone regrets watching.

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

Trying to say the matches were rigged on scripted basically for entertainment and audience getting lost of it believing they are real matches?
Just trying to understand if that what you mean because It has been speculating that this past match between Paul and Tyson was a fixed match.

Could really be or not. I don't know. There has also been speculations of how much Tyson has made in the match that was to say the match must have been a manipulation on the insightments of of trickily enrich this big Whale boxer of Tyson's.
I myself is just lost of this whole scenarios about this match.

Honestly, before the fight between jake paul and mike tyson was played, I personally did not really consider the fight as a serious fight, because basically the fight was just an exhibition and also limited to entertainment, so it is very natural if it looks a lot of irregularities and also speculation about the fight, I think, promoter, tyson and jake paul only targeted that the fight as a means to make a lot of money by capitalising on tyson popularity as a boxing legend today, so there is really no point for us to give a lot of conspiracy theories about the fight because that it was just an entertainment fight, and even before and after the fight was played we could see throughout the year netflix shares increased significantly and reached almost 85%.

If it's a serious match, would you think Tyson would have thrown Jake Paul head off defenseless?

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Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Man these matches keep getting crazier. I wonder who watches these and who sings up for Netflix or whatever modern pay to view alternative for such a thing. Really the boys that used to watch Logan on YouTube might be eager to see his face smashed, but really his matches seem to be so oddly rigged every time. They just use every virslity trick in the book and yet Logan keeps getting away with some terrible matches that everyone regrets watching.

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

Trying to say the matches were rigged on scripted basically for entertainment and audience getting lost of it believing they are real matches?
Just trying to understand if that what you mean because It has been speculating that this past match between Paul and Tyson was a fixed match.

Could really be or not. I don't know. There has also been speculations of how much Tyson has made in the match that was to say the match must have been a manipulation on the insightments of of trickily enrich this big Whale boxer of Tyson's.
I myself is just lost of this whole scenarios about this match.

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Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Man these matches keep getting crazier. I wonder who watches these and who sings up for Netflix or whatever modern pay to view alternative for such a thing. Really the boys that used to watch Logan on YouTube might be eager to see his face smashed, but really his matches seem to be so oddly rigged every time. They just use every virslity trick in the book and yet Logan keeps getting away with some terrible matches that everyone regrets watching.

And probably that's what fans are paying, they wanted to see Jake Paul lost although if I'm not mistaken, he had one already against Tommy Fury. But I guess fans are not that satisfied, they wanted to see him sleeping in the canvass and being humbled.

Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

Perhaps, but if he finds opponent that are really entertaining and intriguing, then maybe fans are still going to buy on that hype. Maybe as hype fighter as Connor or even Floyd if they can settled for a catch weight, then maybe in the future we will see that another big fight from Jake Paul.

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Quote from: alani123 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:40 PM

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

Mayweather kicked off this whole exhibition match trend, and now it's everywhere. People watch, even though it’s not a real fight. Take Jake Paul’s last match... it was technically a pro fight, bu it felt like an exhibition. He clearly didn’t want to hurt the old legend.

And here we are, complaining about it, but still supporting it. Why? Because these matches bring in massive money. And here's the most interesting thing, Jake Paul’s last fight reportedly earned him around $40 million.... crazy, right? So, like it or not, we’ll be seeing more of these in the future. It’s a money-making machine...

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"I'm here to make $40 million and knock out a legend," Paul said at a pre-fight press conference.

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Man these matches keep getting crazier. I wonder who watches these and who sings up for Netflix or whatever modern pay to view alternative for such a thing. Really the boys that used to watch Logan on YouTube might be eager to see his face smashed, but really his matches seem to be so oddly rigged every time. They just use every virslity trick in the book and yet Logan keeps getting away with some terrible matches that everyone regrets watching.

Will people get tired of it? Sooner or later. But then again, if there's money, so long as it's profitable, he'll keep finding new celebrities I guess.

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In fact I see this as a retaliation from what happened to Tyson but even as that I don't have that strong belief that if he professionally trained for 6 months he would knocked out (beat) Paul so easily, because already Jake has involved himself with other fight even before having to meet with Tyson so he has an experience already before having to meet with him for the fight.

Even if Tyson were given 5 years to train, it wouldn’t change the outcome, Jake Paul would still win. Tyson’s age is a huge factor, and there’s no way he can keep up with a young, active boxer like Jake. So, let’s drop the “what ifs.” What’s done is done. Mike walked away with $20 million from that fight, and he wasn’t reported to be seriously injured. He should just kick back and enjoy spending that money now.

Considering the age differences you would see that Tyson is already weak and should retire by now if not mistakenly, and again i sense this fight to be a kind fixed or plan fight because usually Jake having to fight Tyson was like a kind of boost up, trying to make his name more famous for having to fight a legend someone who was known to have won so many champions. But while we also consider the age difference you would see that Jake is more stronger and vibrants than Tyson so even though he has to fall back and train the energy is no longer there and has exhausted all it takes him to be strong to fight.

But Tyson want more fight Cheesy

I think he love the paycheck he gets from his last fight. Also provably he cannot get another fight since people already know his not capable have competitive fight anymore.

As other said youth have more better advantage than aged and experience.

This iShowSpeed plan fight? This might have chance to happen especially if there's good prize reward to be given on Speed. So I guess let see further more updates regarding to this fight since this is one of the hell comedy scene in boxing history.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

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Usually this is a topic that from a real point of view...boxing! should not even be discussed. Fin.

Anyone who puts on gloves can box, e.g. youtubers, that one in particular is a damn a dog bark represents Wink

, then they thinking what they as have millions of followers want to cover areas that do not concern them.

JP is making a name for himself, but only that, it is fun and he is sincerely doing for boxing what many other boxers have not done, making it trending, but even so, he may never fight for a world title... there is an order, and many boxers take a lifetime to get to fight for a title... which in the case that concerns us these guys fight for money basic.

If JP.. wants to gain respect he should wait a couple more years and/or do the routine of fights towards the title... but what he wants is to get to fight for a world title just for the fact of having money or being famous...

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Quote from: Maslate on November 21, 2024, 03:24:40 AM

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In fact I see this as a retaliation from what happened to Tyson but even as that I don't have that strong belief that if he professionally trained for 6 months he would knocked out (beat) Paul so easily, because already Jake has involved himself with other fight even before having to meet with Tyson so he has an experience already before having to meet with him for the fight.

Even if Tyson were given 5 years to train, it wouldn’t change the outcome, Jake Paul would still win. Tyson’s age is a huge factor, and there’s no way he can keep up with a young, active boxer like Jake. So, let’s drop the “what ifs.” What’s done is done. Mike walked away with $20 million from that fight, and he wasn’t reported to be seriously injured. He should just kick back and enjoy spending that money now.

Considering the age differences you would see that Tyson is already weak and should retire by now if not mistakenly, and again i sense this fight to be a kind fixed or plan fight because usually Jake having to fight Tyson was like a kind of boost up, trying to make his name more famous for having to fight a legend someone who was known to have won so many champions. But while we also consider the age difference you would see that Jake is more stronger and vibrants than Tyson so even though he has to fall back and train the energy is no longer there and has exhausted all it takes him to be strong to fight.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

Do you guys think this match-up will happen?

The fight can happen, Jake Paul and Ishowspeed are people who have benefited massively from the internet, and streaming activities, if this fight is going to happen, it is going to be another joke of a fight between these two who would be more focused on getting streamers and an audience that will increase their fan base, than actually boxing itself. I will not place a bet on any of the fighters because they both are doing it for fun and will likely not be giving their best in the fight.

Yes, there is a possibility of this fight happening or Jake Paul just continue to build his brand with fighting Youtubers and former boxers. So he had crack the code of making money out of becoming a Youtube influencer and taking advantage of boxing as a sports. But his last fight with Mike Tyson could be the last straw for us boxing fans to watch him or whoever clown he wanted to take next.

Not that we are not going to bet, but we will not watch, that's for sure. We don't want to be taken advantage again with the hype and everything and then at the end of the fight we really felt that we have been scammed. It's good that a have a Netflix subscriptions before and so I just take that and watch his fight against Tyson. But going to pay PPV next? Nah, I won't do that.

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Quote from: Questat on November 20, 2024, 08:54:25 AM

iShowSpeed is a clown, so if this fight happens, it’s pretty obvious it would be staged. I’m not sure if the offer was even serious or if they’re just entertaining the idea because iShowSpeed himself doesn’t seem serious with his statements...

That is exactly what crossed my mind when I read in this thread Ishowspeed would be even considering trying to fight Paul, he is not a fighter, he is a social media clown, who has been also linked to some NFT scam projects in the past, by the way. Not even mentioning it takes more than merely six month for one to be ready to fight someone who has been fighting professionally for much more than that period of time.
I doubt the fight will take place and if it does, I would guess Ishowspeed would be asked to lose by some match fixers, in order for him and the fixers to pocket millions of dollars from the betting market... Roll Eyes

Instead of watching celebrities fighting it is better to stick to actual professional fighters who do not have so much of an influence in social media. In the end, these matches of celebrities are not for the sake of sport and showing their strength, it is about chasing clout.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on November 22, 2024, 10:43:23 AM

Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

Do you guys think this match-up will happen?

The fight can happen, Jake Paul and Ishowspeed are people who have benefited massively from the internet, and streaming activities, if this fight is going to happen, it is going to be another joke of a fight between these two who would be more focused on getting streamers and an audience that will increase their fan base, than actually boxing itself. I will not place a bet on any of the fighters because they both are doing it for fun and will likely not be giving their best in the fight.

The fight is just targeted at making money. Mike Tyson saw the fight against Jake Paul as an opportunity to make money since he is not as rich as other heavyweight champions. His past wasteful life is what is hunting him today. I wonder how many past heavyweight champions at his age will still be fighting for money. These celebrity fights have even started spreading to my country. A musician fought with a social media influencer recently and it was just too boring to watch. Jake Paul and iShowSpeed will be a comedy boxing fight to make us laugh because the latter is a clown.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

Do you guys think this match-up will happen?

The fight can happen, Jake Paul and Ishowspeed are people who have benefited massively from the internet, and streaming activities, if this fight is going to happen, it is going to be another joke of a fight between these two who would be more focused on getting streamers and an audience that will increase their fan base, than actually boxing itself. I will not place a bet on any of the fighters because they both are doing it for fun and will likely not be giving their best in the fight.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 22, 2024, 06:50:49 AM

personally, the match wont happen just like you have said maybe it just for marketing gimmick if the audience really lot and can stream revenue maybe it gonna happen

If the match Jake Paul vs iShowSpeed really happening of course I am gonna pick the Jake Paul since he has the experience rather than a iShowSpeed it is simply because Speed is just a streamer and does not have kind of boxing experience even tho Speed is going to take hard train because is not all about the train but also the real world experience too in my opinion.

If the audience really wants to see it, there’s always a chance they might make it happen, money talks, after all. But can we be real here? The fight would be a total mismatch. iShowSpeed doesn’t have anywhere near the boxing skills or experience Jake Paul has. It’d be like watching a pro take on an amateur, and Jake would have to tone it way down just to make the fight remotely interesting. And if that happens, it’s practically turning the whole thing into a scripted show, more entertainment than a real fight, and honestly, that just doesn’t feel right.

Jake Paul should stick to looking for a proper opponent, someone who can actually challenge him. If he locks that in soon, we might have an exciting fight to look forward to early next year. That’s the kind of match fans deserve, not a one-sided spectacle.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2024, 04:10:40 AM

Do you guys think this match-up will happen?

Me, personally, I don't think so, but I've seen more outlandish things happen.

personally, the match wont happen just like you have said maybe it just for marketing gimmick if the audience really lot and can stream revenue maybe it gonna happen

If the match Jake Paul vs iShowSpeed really happening of course I am gonna pick the Jake Paul since he has the experience rather than a iShowSpeed it is simply because Speed is just a streamer and does not have kind of boxing experience even tho Speed is going to take hard train because is not all about the train but also the real world experience too in my opinion.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 22, 2024, 05:32:59 AM

Isn't it about time we learnt not to associate the YouTubers with fighting. For years now these guys especially Jake Paul has made away with millions all in the name of boxing.
I have to give it to them they know the type of matches that would get more attention and also they have mastered the act of hyping but at the end of the day we are feed with scripted play and not the fight we thought we would get.

On the other hand I think Ishowspeed content are mad, just a kid doing his thing also he has shown himself worth in terms of athletics. He is a naturally gifted kid that if his talents gets refined he would do well. But I don't think he needs to get into fighting either real or scripted.

We do know that when it comes to money then everything could happen. Each of us might have their own opinions whether Ishowspeed do really need to go into this kind of field or would really be staying up on where he is now. Whenever there's some rumors about some possible match up then it will really be mostly being lined up. Some will really be that get mad or wouldnt really be liking things on how its been arranged but we do know that once there's hype and interest then it is something that could definitely be happening. So it will really be just that depending
on how you will really be having this kind of impression whether you do watch it live or would be seeing these freaking fights on replay? Grin

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