[Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson - page 5.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 20, 2021, 09:30:26 AM

Odds are now available.

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Herring, Jamel @5
Stevenson, Shakur @1.14

Looks like the odds is telling that Shakur would win this fight easily, I don't like to bet if no handicap of the fight but it's good to see that the odds are available early so we will know what the bookies think about this fight.

Let's wait for the handicap mate, ML is no good for us. And I don't like the 1.14 odds, for me this fight is going to be close. Maybe a decision win by Shakur will be juicy as compare to ML, or a Herring decision win as well.

Bookies is obviously favouring Shakur because he is undefeated champion. On the other hand, Herring is also very durable and has more experience.

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Quote from: julerz12 on September 20, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

I would put my money on Herring on this one. He's got the upper hand when it comes to height, reach, and experience.
A former US Marine, for sure that guy is built even harder than Stevenson.
I wouldn't be surprised if this would be Stevenson's first loss. Cheesy

It's a different story in the ring, you can't fight like a Marine in a boxing ring, you're only using fists that's nerfed and buffed in a way and it's not a fight to kill so it would be hard for Herring to not kill Stevenson, although the toughness would definitely be a big help, not to mention the mental acuity of a Marine is something else.

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Odds are now available.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/herring-jamel-vs-stevenson-shakur-61483dbea96a9f2fa3aa01d0

Herring, Jamel @5
Stevenson, Shakur @1.14

Looks like the odds is telling that Shakur would win this fight easily, I don't like to bet if no handicap of the fight but it's good to see that the odds are available early so we will know what the bookies think about this fight.

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Jamel is more experienced, but in this case Shakur Stevenson is the favorite due to his agility, fast counter-punches, strategical balance between body and head jabs. These elements are all part of his refined admirable technique. Of course experience matters, but even the most experienced masters are defeated someday by younger players who will eventually become masters so experienced like the old ones.

In my opinion Shakur has all the necessary conditions to win this fight since he doesn't underestimate his opponent. That is the biggest mistake an unbeaten athletle can commit.

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I would put my money on Herring on this one. He's got the upper hand when it comes to height, reach, and experience.
A former US Marine, for sure that guy is built even harder than Stevenson.
I wouldn't be surprised if this would be Stevenson's first loss. Cheesy

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Two pillow-fisted fighters? this will probably go to distance, Herring if I'm not mistaken has won recently so he is the most active between the two. But Shakur is coming up and the younger of the two. Herring doesn't have a good knock out ratio same as Shakur, but he is very technical boxer and he is tall. He will be the underdog in this fight, So I might be leaning towards him by a unanimous decision over Shakur.

If you add in the experience, we might see Herring getting the W in this one, I mean yes Shakur is young and spry but if there's not that much experience involved, it's nothing. But no matter what, it's going to be a good fight.

Yes I will also back the experience of Herring than the freshness of youth of Shakur, yes he is skillful and would surely do well and surely it is going to be a very good fight but i will back herring to win this one.

Sometimes though, youth really prevail over experience. So it will be interesting how the fight will turn out. If Herring can use his experience here then maybe he can win by decision. But if Shakur's youth overcome Herring's experience, then Shakur can get a win.

So yes, this is a very good fight, as far as style goes and experience vs youth game.

shakur is the challenger here but bookies are looking at this match that he has the advantage over herring. can herring defend his title? or this much younger opponent can overpower him? maybe this fight will go the distance if both fighters will be cautious with their movements. don't underestimate herring's experience here. age is just a number, still depends on how they prep for this fight.

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Quote from: Lordshiva on September 20, 2021, 05:42:11 AM

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Quote from: Jating on September 10, 2021, 07:13:31 AM

Two pillow-fisted fighters? this will probably go to distance, Herring if I'm not mistaken has won recently so he is the most active between the two. But Shakur is coming up and the younger of the two. Herring doesn't have a good knock out ratio same as Shakur, but he is very technical boxer and he is tall. He will be the underdog in this fight, So I might be leaning towards him by a unanimous decision over Shakur.

If you add in the experience, we might see Herring getting the W in this one, I mean yes Shakur is young and spry but if there's not that much experience involved, it's nothing. But no matter what, it's going to be a good fight.

Yes I will also back the experience of Herring than the freshness of youth of Shakur, yes he is skillful and would surely do well and surely it is going to be a very good fight but i will back herring to win this one.

Sometimes though, youth really prevail over experience. So it will be interesting how the fight will turn out. If Herring can use his experience here then maybe he can win by decision. But if Shakur's youth overcome Herring's experience, then Shakur can get a win.

So yes, this is a very good fight, as far as style goes and experience vs youth game.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 20, 2021, 03:57:22 AM

Most of the boxing coming now has at least Trashtalking before the fight? is this how desperate the promotion that the boxers need to throw words after another to gain popularity ?

But in the end, style makes a fight, if you put two boxers with very similar style like Mayweather and Rigondeaux, you'll get a boring outcome even if the trash talks are personal, trash talks are only good if fighters are ready to engage are proven, warriors and a lot are at stakes on the fight, just like the coming Alvarez - Plant match, this fight is not very exciting but very interesting to watch on the outcome.

As far as I can remember, reading back the some history of boxing, Muhammad Ali started this trash talking in the sports, an during that time, boxing fans love it. And then it just trickle down to where the state of boxing right now. I guess we can call it normal, I mean you want to get the head off your opponent, so obviously you need to motivate yourself and not mushy mushy. You need to say crazy things to psyche yourself out.

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Quote from: Jating on September 10, 2021, 07:13:31 AM

Two pillow-fisted fighters? this will probably go to distance, Herring if I'm not mistaken has won recently so he is the most active between the two. But Shakur is coming up and the younger of the two. Herring doesn't have a good knock out ratio same as Shakur, but he is very technical boxer and he is tall. He will be the underdog in this fight, So I might be leaning towards him by a unanimous decision over Shakur.

If you add in the experience, we might see Herring getting the W in this one, I mean yes Shakur is young and spry but if there's not that much experience involved, it's nothing. But no matter what, it's going to be a good fight.

Yes I will also back the experience of Herring than the freshness of youth of Shakur, yes he is skillful and would surely do well and surely it is going to be a very good fight but i will back herring to win this one.

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Quote from: Jating on September 10, 2021, 07:13:31 AM

Two pillow-fisted fighters? this will probably go to distance, Herring if I'm not mistaken has won recently so he is the most active between the two. But Shakur is coming up and the younger of the two. Herring doesn't have a good knock out ratio same as Shakur, but he is very technical boxer and he is tall. He will be the underdog in this fight, So I might be leaning towards him by a unanimous decision over Shakur.

If you add in the experience, we might see Herring getting the W in this one, I mean yes Shakur is young and spry but if there's not that much experience involved, it's nothing. But no matter what, it's going to be a good fight.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 20, 2021, 03:57:22 AM

Most of the boxing coming now has at least Trashtalking before the fight? is this how desperate the promotion that the boxers need to throw words after another to gain popularity ?

Talking trash somehow brought some interest to the fans to watch the fight to see if you have the skills to back up your words. We may like it or not but that is now the trend and playing saint isn't profitable anymore in this sport.

By the way, odds are already out in my favorite bookies for this fight, and just like what we expected, Shakur is the huge favorite to win but if you are a Herring fan then these odds are attractive even the ML as Shakur is not yet tested to fight veteran fighters like Jamel.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 20, 2021, 03:57:22 AM

Most of the boxing coming now has at least Trashtalking before the fight? is this how desperate the promotion that the boxers need to throw words after another to gain popularity ?

But in the end, style makes a fight, if you put two boxers with very similar style like Mayweather and Rigondeaux, you'll get a boring outcome even if the trash talks are personal, trash talks are only good if fighters are ready to engage are proven, warriors and a lot are at stakes on the fight, just like the coming Alvarez - Plant match, this fight is not very exciting but very interesting to watch on the outcome.

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Quote from: yazher on September 16, 2021, 06:35:39 AM

Another good fight to come and a challenge for a great prospect like Shakur to pass the great wall of Herring to become one of the high-rank contenders in their current division. I think Shakur Stevenson has some chance to beat Oscar Valdez if they ever have a chance to step together inside the ring because the guy has some serious offensive skill that will break his opponent's defense. I saw it in his last fight I wonder if we can see it again in this upcoming fight.

The undercards are also interesting to watch out for.
From this article, Ali Walsh (the grandson of Muhammad Ali) is one of their undercards.
Can he follow the footsteps of his grandpa?

this is the problem if you are holding or carrying a name of a famous and most respected Boxer , You are being expected to be more than the man .
but hope that He'll show spectator how good he is .

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Anyway, Shakur is the favorite to win here.
Curious where the trash talks will end up in this match.

Most of the boxing coming now has at least Trashtalking before the fight? is this how desperate the promotion that the boxers need to throw words after another to gain popularity ?

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 20, 2021, 03:14:16 AM

Quote from: yazher on September 16, 2021, 06:35:39 AM

Another good fight to come and a challenge for a great prospect like Shakur to pass the great wall of Herring to become one of the high-rank contenders in their current division. I think Shakur Stevenson has some chance to beat Oscar Valdez if they ever have a chance to step together inside the ring because the guy has some serious offensive skill that will break his opponent's defense. I saw it in his last fight I wonder if we can see it again in this upcoming fight.

The undercards are also interesting to watch out for.
From this article, Ali Walsh (the grandson of Muhammad Ali) is one of their undercards.
Can he follow the footsteps of his grandpa?

Anyway, Shakur is the favorite to win here.
Curious where the trash talks will end up in this match.

Oh that's good to hear that Ali's lineage is still in the boxing, have to check Ali Walsh, if he is as good as the greatest of them all.

Yes, Shakur will be the favourite, I haven't heard any trash talk yet, maybe as the fight gets closer, the boxing media will cover more of this fight and maybe we can hear on either side. I'm not sure though if ever can beat Oscar Valdez, but we will see.

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Quote from: yazher on September 16, 2021, 06:35:39 AM

Another good fight to come and a challenge for a great prospect like Shakur to pass the great wall of Herring to become one of the high-rank contenders in their current division. I think Shakur Stevenson has some chance to beat Oscar Valdez if they ever have a chance to step together inside the ring because the guy has some serious offensive skill that will break his opponent's defense. I saw it in his last fight I wonder if we can see it again in this upcoming fight.

The undercards are also interesting to watch out for.
From this article, Ali Walsh (the grandson of Muhammad Ali) is one of their undercards.
Can he follow the footsteps of his grandpa?

Anyway, Shakur is the favorite to win here.
Curious where the trash talks will end up in this match.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 17, 2021, 08:35:13 PM

Quote from: Jating on September 17, 2021, 12:08:32 PM

Just wanted to share how sicked and wicked Shakur's body shot though,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNoYNRDbNM

Look at how he time the body shot that took out Felx Caraballo soul in his last fight here. It was perfect that Felix can't get up and was counted out by the referee. Imagine Herring, who is very tall and Stevenson punishing him with the same perfect timing shot like that. So Herring be ready for that kind of attack coming from Shakur because definitely it will hurt.

Yes, he is sure a big body puncher, so Herring should be preparing for this body shot. I'm been looking at Herring's previous fight and he seems to be good at also countering, specially his uppercut since he is very tall for this weight class. So watch out for his uppercut, he did used it against Carl Frampton and knock him out with overhand right. So definitely I'm getting more excited to see how the style clashes and who are going to fight Oscar Valdez.

That's one advantage of Shakur if Herring didn't to fight close, as he usually does. He should used his height advantage and reach to jab and keep away from Shakur's body shot. If not then sooner or later it will take the gas out of Herring and it will be decisive if the rounds go to 6 to 10 and then championships round. I think the body shot will be the key to Shakur's victory against Herring in this fight.

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Quote from: Jating on September 17, 2021, 12:08:32 PM

Just wanted to share how sicked and wicked Shakur's body shot though,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNoYNRDbNM

Look at how he time the body shot that took out Felx Caraballo soul in his last fight here. It was perfect that Felix can't get up and was counted out by the referee. Imagine Herring, who is very tall and Stevenson punishing him with the same perfect timing shot like that. So Herring be ready for that kind of attack coming from Shakur because definitely it will hurt.

Yes, he is sure a big body puncher, so Herring should be preparing for this body shot. I'm been looking at Herring's previous fight and he seems to be good at also countering, specially his uppercut since he is very tall for this weight class. So watch out for his uppercut, he did used it against Carl Frampton and knock him out with overhand right. So definitely I'm getting more excited to see how the style clashes and who are going to fight Oscar Valdez.

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Jamel has been an overachiever in his career. He has accomplished a lot more than somebody with his talent level would be expected. He is a warrior and expect him to make it a competitive fight. Shakur has been compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is ultra defensive and many would consider him a boring fighter. Herring will have a significant reach and height advantage but Stevenson showed in his last fight he can still box circles around tall fighters. I think the skill of Stevenson will give him the victory.

Yeah, he is too defensive but I don't think that we can compare him to Floyd. It really depend on how defensive a boxer is, Floyd is defensive but he can pull the right hand snap back with perfection, and his counter is very elite. Unlike Rigo or Shakur who can turtle up at the same time not throwing but countering which make the fight very boring.

Mayweather master the art of counter punching which really gives headache to his opponent. He will keeps of defending and allow or attract fighters to keep charging and trying to hit him not knowing that he's just observing and waiting for the right timing to throw his counter and hit them badly.

Unlike Shakur and Rigo, they will keep on hiding and try to throw jabs to move their opponents not a counter that will excite the crowd and let them enjoy if there's a toe to toe counter punching activities, this is where Mayweather have a huge advantage to anyone who are trying to duplicate his style.

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Just wanted to share how sicked and wicked Shakur's body shot though,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNoYNRDbNM

Look at how he time the body shot that took out Felx Caraballo soul in his last fight here. It was perfect that Felix can't get up and was counted out by the referee. Imagine Herring, who is very tall and Stevenson punishing him with the same perfect timing shot like that. So Herring be ready for that kind of attack coming from Shakur because definitely it will hurt.

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Quote from: yazher on September 16, 2021, 06:35:39 AM

Another good fight to come and a challenge for a great prospect like Shakur to pass the great wall of Herring to become one of the high-rank contenders in their current division. I think Shakur Stevenson has some chance to beat Oscar Valdez if they ever have a chance to step together inside the ring because the guy has some serious offensive skill that will break his opponent's defense. I saw it in his last fight I wonder if we can see it again in this upcoming fight.

I still have Oscar Valdez winning against Shakur, Oscar is good at making adjustments, so it ever Shakur play defense, then Oscar will be very aggressive to come some vulnerabilities. And if Shakur wanted to just go and shell himself then he can't win rounds from judges stand point. I agree that Shakur has a chance but it's slim. Aggressor 90% of the time will win fights, just like what we have seen in the Rigo vs Casimero.

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