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Topic: [Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson - page 7. (Read 823 times)

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September 11, 2021, 06:14:46 PM
#25
Thanks for this thread, I already saw this one few days ago, just forgot to post it here.

Anyhow, this is good fight at this division, I like Shakur chances so I would say that he can win this fight against the more experience Herring. Yes, they don't have a good record for winning a fight in a knock out fashion, but still Shakur some some technical skills that can offset Herring's physical advantage. Herring though most of the time doesn't know how to take advantage of his height, so it might favour Shakur again. Let's wait for the odds to come out, maybe Shakur will the slight favourite, but not that far.
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September 11, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
#24

names are not really very popular in boxing. but looking at their records, Herring's age still is 35, and has more experience compared to Stevenson. what makes the fight fair i guess is that Stevenson has a perfect knockout record. I'd probably bet for the ones with more experience if i bet.

i didn't really see any of the fights of the two. but this could be very uncertain to see who will win between the two.

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September 11, 2021, 08:06:07 AM
#23
I often see the figure of Stevenson, he has a good career in the boxing arena, but I used to not care about every boxing tournament if the opponent was Stevenson, I was disappointed the last time I watched Stevenson vs. Jeremia until Stevenson was dubbed by many gambling bettors with the title of 'boring' boxer.



I just hope Stevenson is really serious about fighting Jamel Herring this time, otherwise, I would never place another bet on Stevenson any time, just a waste of time.

I review some of his fights and he is indeed an overhype fighter, yes he is undefeated but he's been fighting unknown fighters and this fight will finally test him if he is really that good, there are fighters who is good when they faced a dangerous fight, and I'm sure Herring will not let Stevenson use him as a stepping stone for bigger paycheck and fights.
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September 11, 2021, 12:49:09 AM
#22
It's an interesting match though some people are underestimating these two. Herring has a good record and he's tough and wild when it comes to the boxing ring. Shakur might just starting his boxing journey yet he also has a huge potential and it could possibly be a tough fight for Herring.
Not per se underestimating but some people just don't see them fight for a long time or they're not that good of a showman which is what some people look for in a bloodsport like boxing. It's a tough fight indeed but we can see experience play a crucial role.
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September 11, 2021, 12:39:31 AM
#21
this is a good match but not interesting enough to see from their boxing record which is almost the same in terms of knockout wins.
but maybe here i think jamel will be a little underdog because of his age and experience, but on the other hand shakur is also very fit especially with his age which is much younger than jamel which will definitely be a bit of an advantage for him.
apart from that I'm actually interested in the distribution of the auction results which is usually 75-25 but in this match Herring will receive 63% pay while Shakur as the challenger gets 37%.

In boxing a matter of age and experience may be only 10% can be a reference, but you also need to remember when Manny fought Ugas? Doesn't that show that as you get older, your stamina in hitting will decrease and your body will not be as good as when you are at the ideal age?
I think it's too early to draw conclusions as this has a long way to go. one full month. We learn from a boxer, Manny, who is famous for his hard punches, can lose at the end of his career before continuing his presidential candidacy in the Philippines.
this is true but at that time manny actually I don't think ugas is an opponent, even though ugas is a substitute boxer but that doesn't cover the fact that manny should have retired at that age (42 years) and i can say manny did something reckless even though indeed he has been constrained by his feet and age, but he insists on fighting, and actually if you look at it from the start, this match will already be clear who the winner is. but here it is different because if we look at the statistics and the available data, the physical condition of a boxer reaches prime condition between the ages of 28 to 35 years.
and when jamel who is now still there I think he still has a good performance starting from maturity in thinking and quite different experience with shakur who is still very young, namely 24 years old, although shakur has achieved many achievements but I think it will be a little different in terms of maturity and experience.
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September 11, 2021, 12:31:11 AM
#20
This is will be unpredictable fight because both of fighters record are close/balance, Herring has more experienced and he won TKO from Carl Frampton one of top boxer. While Stevenson has undefeated record and high potential become a professional boxer like Teofimo Lopez. Both of boxer has good dodging skills and not a brawler, that's why the KO rate isn't high and they will play distance.

I guess Herring will be an underdog in this match with slightly favorite.

This is not going to be boring fight just because both fighters do not have a good knock-out percentage.
Indeed, this is a good fight IMO because we can't really know which is better so it's 50/50. I would like to see how accurate Herring's punch hit Stevenson otherwise Stevenson will win because of his domination in the ring.
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September 11, 2021, 12:00:28 AM
#19
I often see the figure of Stevenson, he has a good career in the boxing arena, but I used to not care about every boxing tournament if the opponent was Stevenson, I was disappointed the last time I watched Stevenson vs. Jeremia until Stevenson was dubbed by many gambling bettors with the title of 'boring' boxer.

If Stevenson wanted to cover up from the boredom and disappointment he once did with fans, he will have to really fight against Jamel Herring next October 23 to get rid of his bad title and clinch a new WBO super title, And it's best if the same thing is done again in the next WBO class, it will be bad for Stevenson in the future in boxing.

I just hope Stevenson is really serious about fighting Jamel Herring this time, otherwise I would never place another bet on Stevenson any time, just a waste of time.
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September 10, 2021, 11:35:18 PM
#18
To be honest, I have not seen the two fighters fight I have to dig deep and see the comparison, Shakur is a young fighter but he hasn't fought tough fighters like Herring, Herring is a volume fighter based on some of the highlights of hid fight if fighters do not have a good knock out percentage and they both engage, I expect the fighters who throws a lot and shows aggressiveness to win the fight by decision.

This is not going to be boring fight just because both fighters do not have a good knock-out percentage.
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September 10, 2021, 11:20:45 PM
#17
It's an interesting match though some people are underestimating these two. Herring has a good record and he's tough and wild when it comes to the boxing ring. Shakur might just starting his boxing journey yet he also has a huge potential and it could possibly be a tough fight for Herring.
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September 10, 2021, 11:07:35 PM
#16
Both fighters are not top caliber knock out artists but they are bringing something to the boxing community especially to Shakur Stevenson who wants to prove to the boxing community that he can beat opponents like Herring who used to hold a world title, and for Herring who wants to prove that he still has what it takes to become a champion again by beating a good fighter like Stevenson, this is one of the legacy fights for both fighters and they are going to prove something here and that's what makes this fight interesting.
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September 10, 2021, 09:38:04 PM
#15
It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?
They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.
^ Which is a perfect match.
But in my own, Shakur is my favorite bet on this match, it could be he has become a multi championship if ever he will be able to defeat Jamel here.
There is a potential that Shakur will win the fight and I think, he will become the most favorable odds in this match. Let us wait for it and for this event and prefer money to bet.

I also do think that Shakur will be the favorite when the betting line open. Shakur is brandish as well, but his lack of ko power is the only thing that will make his name pop up and make some noise in this division. Herring though is battle tested, the ex-Marine have seen it all, so for sure this is a great fight and I would say is going to be exciting as well. Not sure how much is the ticket or the PPV, but I'm not expecting it will be expensive, as this will be good for those who wanted to see Shakur fight.
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September 10, 2021, 09:31:33 PM
#14
I guess we can't expect that the odds will be available soon since the fight is more than a month from now. I don't see anything special on both fighters, even on the undefeated one as they just have an average KO power.

for Jamel Herring , 11-23 only, means 48% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/634455

For Shakur Stevenson 8-16, that's 50% KO rate.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/790719

I don't want to judge it now, but with that low Ko rate, I think this fight will go to distance.

Yes, I would say that although this two are US based, not that much hype, because obviously, it's a lower weight. Nevertheless, even if the records of this two are not that good in terms of KO percentage, they could be in stage wherein they can face Oscar Valdez in the near future as the OP said. At least a solid $1 mil for a fighter at this weight class is already high. So let's wait for Valdez to win his fight tonight and then the winner of this fight might face him in the future.
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September 10, 2021, 06:46:40 PM
#13
It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?
They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.
^ Which is a perfect match.
But in my own, Shakur is my favorite bet on this match, it could be he has become a multi championship if ever he will be able to defeat Jamel here.
There is a potential that Shakur will win the fight and I think, he will become the most favorable odds in this match. Let us wait for it and for this event and prefer money to bet.
This is more exciting because this match is really unpredictable and anyone can win of course, and I have to agree that Shakur has a chance here to win, this could be a huge win for hime or maybe. I can’t actually wait to see the odds and if it will be available on top gambling site, next month will be a great one again.
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September 10, 2021, 06:26:04 PM
#12
It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?
They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.
^ Which is a perfect match.
But in my own, Shakur is my favorite bet on this match, it could be he has become a multi championship if ever he will be able to defeat Jamel here.
There is a potential that Shakur will win the fight and I think, he will become the most favorable odds in this match. Let us wait for it and for this event and prefer money to bet.
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September 10, 2021, 05:41:36 PM
#11
This is a pretty exciting match and I will watch it, thank you I will record this match because there are indeed many bets that I can get. Many parents leave the bet for me guessing their choice. I have done this many times at the Casino. But I haven't found their display in some casinos.
You can watch it via PPV.
As seen in this article, you can watch it via ESPN+.. I think you need to subscript for a PPV account so you'll be able to watch this fight live.

Can someone give me a place to get ready to bet?
As of now, there's no betting odds available yet, but you can always check our popular sportsbook here in the forum, I'm sure you are familiar with it if you are betting on sports, if not, you can check their ANN threads in the gambling section.
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September 10, 2021, 05:41:00 PM
#10
It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?
They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.
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September 10, 2021, 04:38:47 PM
#9
It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?
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September 10, 2021, 04:26:28 PM
#8
this is a good match but not interesting enough to see from their boxing record which is almost the same in terms of knockout wins.
but maybe here i think jamel will be a little underdog because of his age and experience, but on the other hand shakur is also very fit especially with his age which is much younger than jamel which will definitely be a bit of an advantage for him.
apart from that I'm actually interested in the distribution of the auction results which is usually 75-25 but in this match Herring will receive 63% pay while Shakur as the challenger gets 37%.

In boxing a matter of age and experience may be only 10% can be a reference, but you also need to remember when Manny fought Ugas? Doesn't that show that as you get older, your stamina in hitting will decrease and your body will not be as good as when you are at the ideal age?
I think it's too early to draw conclusions as this has a long way to go. one full month. We learn from a boxer, Manny, who is famous for his hard punches, can lose at the end of his career before continuing his presidential candidacy in the Philippines.
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September 10, 2021, 04:19:15 PM
#7
I guess we can't expect that the odds will be available soon since the fight is more than a month from now. I don't see anything special on both fighters, even on the undefeated one as they just have an average KO power.


I just want to add, that indeed with a long enough time duration, this is too hasty for us to guess and determine the 50% probability of all the advantages of this boxer. I may not really know exactly where this choice is going.

However, I thank the OP for providing the information beforehand, even if it's too soon. But that way I will have plenty of time to review all aspects of the advantages and disadvantages of both sides.

I suggest you start analyzing when the betting odds are available, that information is very important so you will know what people think about this fight. The record will be the main basis of the odds, but there are a lot of factors to consider, and that's what you will find to know who is underrated or who is overrated in this fight.

here's the comparison between the two fighters.

HERRING VS STEVENSON
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September 10, 2021, 02:45:14 PM
#6
this is a good match but not interesting enough to see from their boxing record which is almost the same in terms of knockout wins.
but maybe here i think jamel will be a little underdog because of his age and experience, but on the other hand shakur is also very fit especially with his age which is much younger than jamel which will definitely be a bit of an advantage for him.
apart from that I'm actually interested in the distribution of the auction results which is usually 75-25 but in this match Herring will receive 63% pay while Shakur as the challenger gets 37%.
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