[Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson - page 6.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 16, 2021, 01:46:21 AM

Jamel has been an overachiever in his career. He has accomplished a lot more than somebody with his talent level would be expected. He is a warrior and expect him to make it a competitive fight. Shakur has been compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is ultra defensive and many would consider him a boring fighter. Herring will have a significant reach and height advantage but Stevenson showed in his last fight he can still box circles around tall fighters. I think the skill of Stevenson will give him the victory.

Yeah, he is too defensive but I don't think that we can compare him to Floyd. It really depend on how defensive a boxer is, Floyd is defensive but he can pull the right hand snap back with perfection, and his counter is very elite. Unlike Rigo or Shakur who can turtle up at the same time not throwing but countering which make the fight very boring.

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Another good fight to come and a challenge for a great prospect like Shakur to pass the great wall of Herring to become one of the high-rank contenders in their current division. I think Shakur Stevenson has some chance to beat Oscar Valdez if they ever have a chance to step together inside the ring because the guy has some serious offensive skill that will break his opponent's defense. I saw it in his last fight I wonder if we can see it again in this upcoming fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 16, 2021, 01:46:21 AM

Jamel has been an overachiever in his career. He has accomplished a lot more than somebody with his talent level would be expected. He is a warrior and expect him to make it a competitive fight. Shakur has been compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is ultra defensive and many would consider him a boring fighter. Herring will have a significant reach and height advantage but Stevenson showed in his last fight he can still box circles around tall fighters. I think the skill of Stevenson will give him the victory.

One thing I've observed about these Olympic medalist boxers is most of them are more defense-oriented like Mayweather and Rigo to name a few. Have watched some of the fights of Stevenson this late and I could say that even though he is not a knock-out artist but his style is very hard to beat.

With Herring as an opponent, this would be his acid test because the former has the experience and length advantage that could pose some problems for him.

Wonder though how bookies will look at this one, I mean who will they put as the favorite to win this one.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 16, 2021, 01:46:21 AM

..Shakur has been compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is ultra defensive and many would consider him a boring fighter. Herring will have a significant reach and height advantage but Stevenson showed in his last fight he can still box circles around tall fighters. I think the skill of Stevenson will give him the victory.

I've seen Stevenson fight and I don't think comparing him to Mayweather is not justifiable, Mayweather is just too good to compare to Stevenson, Mayweather could be boring but he knows how to hit when to hit and he has a powerful punch, no wonder Mayweather can be considered one of the greatest something that Stevenson lacks, Jamel Herring will be his biggest test if he deserves the comparison.

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Jamel has been an overachiever in his career. He has accomplished a lot more than somebody with his talent level would be expected. He is a warrior and expect him to make it a competitive fight. Shakur has been compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is ultra defensive and many would consider him a boring fighter. Herring will have a significant reach and height advantage but Stevenson showed in his last fight he can still box circles around tall fighters. I think the skill of Stevenson will give him the victory.

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^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

Either of the fighter though, I think Valdez will have an advantage. And maybe this is the reason why he called them after winning a come from behind against Robson.

He can walk through with this fighters because Oscar Valdez has a good defense as well and have power in both hands.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2021, 04:20:41 AM

Both doesn't have the knock out power, they might be technical, but Valdez can adjust, just like in his last fight, wherein he was behind the scorecard by become the aggressor in the middle of the rounds. So for me, there is no preference because it's winnable for him.

Oscar Valdez can box and play technical too if the fight goes on a chess game. And he is also mentally tough just like what he has shown against Robson. He was behind, so he needs to increase his work rate and then overcome and win. Same thing can happen if he fights Shakur or Herring.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 13, 2021, 07:37:33 AM

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight. Huh

I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) Grin

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. Wink

Plenty of time for them to prepare, and of course we bettors have to prepare for this as we should put a bet on this good fight. I was searching for the betting odds but could not find it, probably at this early it's not available yet, I'll wait for next month, 1 day before the fight, for sure the odds will be available. For betting purposes, I have to study these two, and personally, I have not watched any of their respective fight on live TV, so I need to make more research so I'll be able to make a confident bet, whether it's on the favorite or the underdog.

Plenty of fights in youtube mate, for sure you will find one and then you can make a good decision as to who you are going to bet in this fight. Shakur Stevenson though might be the odds favorites, so no surprises. This is the best fight in this division, Stevenson rated number 1 and then Herring as 2. And yes, eventually the winner will have to go and test Oscar Valdez.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 13, 2021, 05:36:44 PM

^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

Either of the fighter though, I think Valdez will have an advantage. And maybe this is the reason why he called them after winning a come from behind against Robson.

Both doesn't have the knock out power, they might be technical, but Valdez can adjust, just like in his last fight, wherein he was behind the scorecard by become the aggressor in the middle of the rounds. So for me, there is no preference because it's winnable for him.

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^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

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In other news: Oscar Valdez Calls Out Winner Of Shakur Stevenson Vs. Jamel Herring For Next Fight.

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“Hopefully we can come back again [to Tucson, Arizona] with another great fighter. Hopefully it's the one we all want. You guys know who he is,” said Valdez. “We all want the winner of Shakur Stevenson and Jamel Herring. Let’s do it. They are great fighters. They are great champions. The best have to fight the best. Let the best man win that night.”

So this could be an added motivation for either fighter, because another champion are going to wait for the winner of their fight. Either one of them could be a good match for Oscar Valdez. And the good thing is that the future reunification is easy to make because all of them are under the same banner of Top Rank.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 13, 2021, 07:37:33 AM

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight. Huh

I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) Grin

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. Wink

South paw indeed, so there is a clash of styles here, not saying that there could be head butts, but it's possible that we might see accident clash of heads early.

Yes, Shakur is the one looking for big fights in the future, so the pressure is on him to beat the other champion in this division and maybe unify the belt. So this is exciting although their names doesn't ring a bell to a casual fan here.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 13, 2021, 07:37:33 AM

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight. Huh

I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) Grin

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. Wink

Plenty of time for them to prepare, and of course we bettors have to prepare for this as we should put a bet on this good fight. I was searching for the betting odds but could not find it, probably at this early it's not available yet, I'll wait for next month, 1 day before the fight, for sure the odds will be available. For betting purposes, I have to study these two, and personally, I have not watched any of their respective fight on live TV, so I need to make more research so I'll be able to make a confident bet, whether it's on the favorite or the underdog.

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Quote from: maju69 on September 12, 2021, 04:22:03 PM

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

There is no guaranteed winner in professional boxing but there are clear advantages to some boxers over their opponents. If you put Joshua against Ruiz and he does not take the fight for granted he will win 90% of the time. If you have a boxer that goes in there complacent and overlooking their opponent then that chance reduces by a huge amount but if the world was perfect and you could guarantee which you cannot but if you could that the fighters were both taking it seriously then 9/10 times the better boxer will win. I think Shakur has a better chance here than people are giving him credit for he has never lost a fight and has never looked like he has ever been losing a fight. Every fight he has won almost every round that he has boxed which is not something that many boxers can do. I think he will win this by decision. Jamel might get a knockout if he can land but I think Shakurs ring movement will be to good.

That is, because if you have confidence that a Shakur will be the winner then you can bet on him in the boxing fight later. Maybe even with support you can bet bigger and if there is a casino that features them for betting, you should come and give big bets with all the speculations that you believe in. Even for one minute of the final battle, the possibility of being victorious is always there.

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Quote from: maju69 on September 12, 2021, 04:22:03 PM

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

There is no guaranteed winner in professional boxing but there are clear advantages to some boxers over their opponents. If you put Joshua against Ruiz and he does not take the fight for granted he will win 90% of the time. If you have a boxer that goes in there complacent and overlooking their opponent then that chance reduces by a huge amount but if the world was perfect and you could guarantee which you cannot but if you could that the fighters were both taking it seriously then 9/10 times the better boxer will win. I think Shakur has a better chance here than people are giving him credit for he has never lost a fight and has never looked like he has ever been losing a fight. Every fight he has won almost every round that he has boxed which is not something that many boxers can do. I think he will win this by decision. Jamel might get a knockout if he can land but I think Shakurs ring movement will be to good.

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I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight. Huh

I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) Grin

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. Wink

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 12, 2021, 04:47:19 PM

Maybe some of us here don't know these boxers but Shakur Stevenson is one prospect that could dominate the lightweight division in the near future. He is a silver medalist in the Olympics, one of the reasons why many US fans are expecting this guy to be a big name in boxing once he will be paired with big names like Oscar Valdez or maybe Teofimo Lopez in the next few years.

Have read an article saying that both will receive 1.5M USD, if you are not popular in the states you will not receive that kind of amount.

Have seen his fights on Youtube and he is not as good as those named you've mentioned but it's good that he is fighting a fighter like Herring who has a good record and like to engage this is a test for his young career, but I don't think if he wins this fight he will be in the status of Lopez and Valdez, who fought big fights and big names, he needs more big fights he is a very promising boxer though.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on September 12, 2021, 02:20:00 PM

It's true, I've searched various boxing betting sites and couldn't find any that open a betting service for this boxing match. Maybe this is because it is not very popular and also still in a fairly light class. Waiting for a few more games to get better, this gives me nothing. I would certainly visit the popular sportsbooks on offer and look for land to bet on.

Maybe some of us here don't know these boxers but Shakur Stevenson is one prospect that could dominate the lightweight division in the near future. He is a silver medalist in the Olympics, one of the reasons why many US fans are expecting this guy to be a big name in boxing once he will be paired with big names like Oscar Valdez or maybe Teofimo Lopez in the next few years.

Have read an article saying that both will receive 1.5M USD, if you are not popular in the states you will not receive that kind of amount.

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Quote from: herurist on September 10, 2021, 11:39:31 PM

this is true but at that time manny actually I don't think ugas is an opponent, even though ugas is a substitute boxer but that doesn't cover the fact that manny should have retired at that age (42 years) and i can say manny did something reckless even though indeed he has been constrained by his feet and age, but he insists on fighting, and actually if you look at it from the start, this match will already be clear who the winner is. but here it is different because if we look at the statistics and the available data, the physical condition of a boxer reaches prime condition between the ages of 28 to 35 years.
and when jamel who is now still there I think he still has a good performance starting from maturity in thinking and quite different experience with shakur who is still very young, namely 24 years old, although shakur has achieved many achievements but I think it will be a little different in terms of maturity and experience.

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

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It's true, I've searched various boxing betting sites and couldn't find any that open a betting service for this boxing match. Maybe this is because it is not very popular and also still in a fairly light class. Waiting for a few more games to get better, this gives me nothing. I would certainly visit the popular sportsbooks on offer and look for land to bet on.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 10, 2021, 04:41:00 PM

Quote from: ReiMomo on September 10, 2021, 03:38:47 PM

It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?

They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.

Indeed, if at first glance this does not attract too many supporters out there, even the news exposure of them fighting before is not on my TV screen. With minimal KOs from both of them, I think this fight is quite balanced. Most of us often miss the less exciting boxing fights to bet on the big Casinos. Even if for this time we have to really analyze both.

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