[Boxing]: Jessie Vargas vs Mikey Garcia

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 03, 2020, 06:58:14 AM

Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

Friends and family of Manny is begging him to retire from boxing and they ain't successful as the fighting senator still want to fight one or a couple before calling it a career. These last fights would be selective though as his team doesn't want him to be hurt and the most practical fights for him is Mikey Garcia or Robert Guerero. Mikey is calling on the Pacman to fight him as this may be biggest fight for him, money-wise if this pushes through.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 03, 2020, 06:58:14 AM

Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

Thank you mate, at least there's someone here who thinks that Mikey vs Loma is a better option for Mikey because that is what boxing fans are waiting. So I really don't understand why he suddenly jumps two weight decision, fight the best in Spence, taking his 0 and then goes on Vargas, just a B-fighter. He should go down at 135 lbs and call out Loma.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 03, 2020, 06:58:14 AM

Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

He was calling for Manny, so he really think he can beat Manny or he just want to make more money in that fight.
Manny is old but he is a legend, we can't leave him alone, people still wants to see Manny fight some big names in boxing, if Manny can't fight Mayweather, Spence, and Crawford, then let's give Garcia a shot, I remember when Thurman called out Manny, he answer that call, we might see the same.

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Damn guys, leave Manny alone, he already had enough boxing in his life. It's time to move on to other boxers.

Anyway, I like Mikey, but he is getting too fat if he keeps moving to the heavier class. I'm surprised when he beat Vargas with that fat on his stomach. IMO he should move down and fight Lomachenko instead. Who still remembers the Mikey vs Loma hype? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 03, 2020, 05:57:09 AM

Quote from: stadus on March 01, 2020, 07:52:57 PM

If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.

Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next, Grin

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He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.

If the fight push through, it will benefit both fighters and the boxing industry, because Garcia is on on his highest level and Pacquiao still has it,
I'm not saying that Thurman is a weak fighter but we have fighters in Garcia and Pacquiao that people wants to see, so I hope the fight will push through the ball is on Pacquiao's camp now.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 03, 2020, 05:57:09 AM

Quote from: stadus on March 01, 2020, 07:52:57 PM

If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.

Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next, Grin

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He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.

Mikey Garcia had only one loss so I guess he is a good opponent for money but I would not think that he is a better fight than Thurman.
Therefore if Manny fight him and Manny wins, Manny would benefit since he can still have more fights and will still hold the belt.

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Quote from: stadus on March 01, 2020, 07:52:57 PM

If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.

Everyone has a chance against Manny calling him out after a solid win, and then we know what's going to happen next, Grin

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He need to go after the top dogs of Welterweight now, he did weight 145 lbs, but he really do look good at this division or it is just that Vargas sucks, either way, a fight with Manny will generate millions for him so why not call Manny and his camp and set up a fight.

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Quote from: stadus on March 01, 2020, 07:52:57 PM

If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.

For Mikey Garcia, the road to a Pacquiao fight is to defeat Vargas first and he did his homework very well. For Manny, this is a very good fight for him as Mikey is less dangerous than Spence and both fighters is more or less even in terms of size. I think Manny have the edge here but the probability of Mikey defeating an old Pacman is very high.

There are talks that Manny's camp is talking already on the camp of Mikey and that the fight will be held in Saudi, just could not find the link of that article now.

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If I remember it right, Mikey Garcia called out Pacman to be his next opponent, do you think it's a good fight for Manny or do you think this guy stands a good chance against Manny? He also want a rematch against Spence but I think it's not a good idea.

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Quote from: Jating on March 01, 2020, 10:53:33 AM

Vargas was not really known to have or not known to be a KO puncher. He usually overwhelms his opponents with his jabs, although I was surprised that Mikey was able to knock him down since Vargas is the bigger man here.

Right, but he has a puncher chance here because Mikey is not a natural welterweight. But it looks like he has somewhat carry his power now and made some adjustments after his first lost in that division against an elite fighter, Spence. Just show that Vargas is not as elite as others may have thought he would be.

Quote from: Jating on March 01, 2020, 10:53:33 AM

Good performance by Mikey, it looks like he is going to stay at 147 lbs and chase bigger fights. We have been hearing his name against Manny, so let's see if he can get his dream fight, of course it could be his biggest paycheck.

With this kind of performance? of course, he would definitely stay at welterweight now, although we are rob of Mikey vs Loma at 130-135 lbs.

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Vargas was not really known to have or not known to be a KO puncher. He usually overwhelms his opponents with his jabs, although I was surprised that Mikey was able to knock him down since Vargas is the bigger man here.

Good performance by Mikey, it looks like he is going to stay at 147 lbs and chase bigger fights. We have been hearing his name against Manny, so let's see if he can get his dream fight, of course it could be his biggest paycheck.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 01, 2020, 01:23:01 AM

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Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

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There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.

Thank you @Darker45, I wasn't able to watch the fight, damn, not feeling good today.

I just saw the news, it was 114-113, 116-111 and 116-111 unanimous decision for Mikey. I thought that Vargas could have easily taken Mikey Garcia out, but it was the other way around. I'll probably watch some replay on Youtube. Grin

@bbc.reporter - we are wrong, it seems that Mikey bring his A-game against Vargas tonight.

Vargas showed a tremendous performance. He was the one who dictated the early rounds. His jabs to the body were also doing well. He appeared to be very comfortable and ahead in points until he was knocked down by Mikey in the 5th round. That was the start of Mikey's momentum. I guess the thing that made everything different between the two fighters is that Mikey has the more powerful punch. While Vargas scored one point after another, he didn't really hurt Mikey to the point of sealing his edge over him. It was Mikey who could turn everything around with a very strong right hand. And that finally happened in the 5th round.

But without that single 10-8 score in the 5th round, the result could have been a majority decision. Nevertheless, the fight was a great one overall. Both fighters showed their best. On the other hand, Chocolatito KOed the previously undefeated Yafai in the main supporting bout. Another great battle.

Anyway, there seems to be a little interest over this match. The thread is silent. Huh

Get well soon, by the way, and enjoy watching the replay!

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Quote from: Darker45 on March 01, 2020, 12:15:32 AM

Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

Edit:

There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.

Thank you @Darker45, I wasn't able to watch the fight, damn, not feeling good today.

I just saw the news, it was 114-113, 116-111 and 116-111 unanimous decision for Mikey. I thought that Vargas could have easily taken Mikey Garcia out, but it was the other way around. I'll probably watch some replay on Youtube. Grin

@bbc.reporter - we are wrong, it seems that Mikey bring his A-game against Vargas tonight.

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Watching right now. The main bout is about to start a few minutes from now. The mike is in Michael Buffer's hand already. The fighters are already introduced.

Not placing a bet on this fight as the odds for Garcia are not that attractive. I am for Garcia by UD in this one, though.

Edit:

There you go! Mikey just got his win by UD. He could have won a KO if he went more than his jab-straight 1-2 combination. There were many opportunities for it. Credits for Vargas for being so brilliant in throwing away punches, keeping Mikey at bay, even if he was already hurt by the latter's right.

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@Baofeng. Mikey Garcia is 5 inches shorter than Jessie Vargas and the lightweight Mikey Garcia's power on welterweight is lesser. Jessie Vargas also has a 2 inch reach advantage.

My prediction, this fight will be a split or a majority decision for Jessie Vargas.

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Boxing week guys,

Mikey Garcia: Vargas Will Be Coming For a KO Win - Me Too!

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Four division world champion Mikey Garcia is expecting a real war, when he steps in the ring against two-division world champion Jessie Vargas.

The contest takes place on Saturday night, as the headline bout of a Matchroom card in Frisco, Texas. DAZN will be streaming the event.

Garcia is fighting for the first time since March 2019, when moved up by two weight divisions to the welterweight ranks and suffered a lopsided decision loss to IBF world champion Errol Spence.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-vargas-coming-ko-win-me-too--147142

And since the Wilder vs Fury rematch is over, I think it's about time to shift our attention to this fight. I didn't generate enough buzz, but for sure this is one good fight that boxing fans shouldn't missed.

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Quote from: Diced90 on February 16, 2020, 04:04:41 PM

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We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.

Anybody who falls for this type of promotion is just an idiot. A lot of promoters try to stir up some "apparently legit" hatred or rivalry between the two fighters to add authenticity to the bout, e.g. these guys aren't just fighting for money, but for some real dislike of one another.

I don't buy in to any of this crap. I only watch a fight based on past performances of the two fighters. They don't even need to be a big name and I'll still watch 'em if they're good.

Most people would still fail that's why promotion is really important in any fight as more people would fall means more money on the pot.
Vargas still has a pretty decent odds, who already bet o the guy to win?

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on February 16, 2020, 12:33:02 PM

We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.

Anybody who falls for this type of promotion is just an idiot. A lot of promoters try to stir up some "apparently legit" hatred or rivalry between the two fighters to add authenticity to the bout, e.g. these guys aren't just fighting for money, but for some real dislike of one another.

I don't buy in to any of this crap. I only watch a fight based on past performances of the two fighters. They don't even need to be a big name and I'll still watch 'em if they're good.

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Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on February 16, 2020, 12:23:11 PM

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It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

Exactly that.

If other people are anything like me, we only want to see the genuine number 1 fighters, or undefeated up-and-comers.

Anybody who has been thoroughly schooled in the past, or lost their title permanently is not worth watching.

There are obviously a few exceptions that always put on great shows though, e.g. Dillian Whyte and Derreck Chisora, but mostly it's just the big names we want to see.

We all know boxing promoters they will do something to hype the fight, this is not a title fight but something great will come out for fighter on who will win this battle and the fighter that will win the fight should win it in a very fashion way like knocking out the other fight or both fighter slugging it out like a street fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 16, 2020, 07:00:33 AM

It's because the boxing world is awaiting for the Fury vs Wilder rematch. That's why there's no media attention on this fight. Besides, with Garcia coming off from a lost to Errol Spence and then Jessie Vargas somewhat lost in the 147 lbs division, it's really hard to promote this fight.

So for me, this two are just B-side boxers to the growing list of top welterweights around.

Exactly that.

If other people are anything like me, we only want to see the genuine number 1 fighters, or undefeated up-and-comers.

Anybody who has been thoroughly schooled in the past, or lost their title permanently is not worth watching.

There are obviously a few exceptions that always put on great shows though, e.g. Dillian Whyte and Derreck Chisora, but mostly it's just the big names we want to see.

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