(Boxing) Kazuto Ioka vs Joshua Boxing Match Begins 31 December 2022 - page 2.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 28, 2022, 07:31:08 PM

So Estrada is looking for another war, winner of this fight. Ioka is still the favorite in this fight and if ever he wins here, for sure he will be obliged to fight Estrada as well, so the feeling is mutual. So let's see, everyone should be excited to see this fight with Franco but and it seems that Ioka is the favorite but not gonna be easy for him as Franco is also durable and might bring everything he can in this fight to try to pull an upset and derail his plans on Estrada.

Agree on this one bro. Personally, I just felt that there is something lacking in the style of Ioka, though he won against Ancajas but still he did not impressed me yet maybe if he could bet Franco, he could get my nod hehe but definitely Ioka is not the same level as Estrada or Chocolatito Gonzales.

I think Franco will upset today's festivity in Japan.

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Fresh from his final trilogy win against Chocolatito, Juan Francisco Estrada will be watching this fight because he wants to fight the winner and unify the belts,

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“Ioka is a great fighter. He’s a four-division champion. Joshua Franco is a terrific fighter who is on the rise," Estrada told BoxingScene.com. “Honestly, I’d fight either one, so whoever wins is fine.”

“Ever since I was at flyweight, I’ve always wanted to fight Ioka. I would love to unify against him because that’s the fight I’ve wanted longer."

https://www.boxingscene.com/estrada-on-ioka-franco-whoever-wins-fine-love-unify-against-ioka--171449

So Estrada is looking for another war, winner of this fight. Ioka is still the favorite in this fight and if ever he wins here, for sure he will be obliged to fight Estrada as well, so the feeling is mutual. So let's see, everyone should be excited to see this fight with Franco but and it seems that Ioka is the favorite but not gonna be easy for him as Franco is also durable and might bring everything he can in this fight to try to pull an upset and derail his plans on Estrada.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 26, 2022, 07:04:33 PM

I guess it's a dream for boxers as well to travel to Japan and have that experience fighting in a different soil because that's how tough boxers are build. Traveling to the opponents backyard and hand them a beating.

But not when you're fighting Inoue, Donaire learn it the hard way, but we have a lot of Filipinos who beat the best Japan can offer
one of these is Nietes who has done it many times in the past, Japanese promoters offer the best deal to entice boxers to come to Japan and fight there, they are capable of holding big fights, and its good that a lot of good boxers are carrying the torch of representing the Asian regions in World class boxing, Japanese, Filipinos, and Thailanders are three countries with the best boxers in the lower weight class.

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In terms of weighing in the boxers that they fought in their entire career, I see that Ioka does have a better lineup of opponents compared to Franco.

Although it doesn't mean that Ioka should be tougher as Franco is also a champion and to reach that stage is tough work.

I just wonder why some of the Japanese top boxers always fight in Japan and not considering to fight outside their country. Who's responsible for that?

The smaller weight classes are often dominated by Asian fighters so there is not a lot of interest in these divisions in the United States and Europe. There is not really an incentive to fight outside of their country. Inoue has had a few fights in the United States but as good as he is he is not really that popular over there.

The Japanese promoters have enough money to get the fight held in their backyard for their boxers, and of course, they want to serve their boxing community in their country so they want their best Japanese fighters to do their fight here in their backyard, of course, to get support from the home crowds, the smaller weight classes may not be popular in the US but some of the best fighters are on these or have been on these divisions like Inoue and Manny Pacquiao and Donaire and they are and once part of the ring magazine boxers of the year.

I agree. If Japanese promoters have huge budgets then they can easily host their fighters' events. Back then, Japanese promoters like Teiken are handling foreign fighters too like Chocolatito Gonzales and Jorge Linares. Now it is declining but still, they have enough money to cover their fighters in order to stop them from visiting their opponents' backyards.

Yeah, even the famed Teiken boxing gym is now a relic in Japan if I'm not mistaken, other gyms are taking over. I guess for Japanese fighter to be really known overseas, they have to get out and find a US counter part promotional company just like what Naoya Inoue did with signing with Top Rank.

Quote from: inthelongrun on December 26, 2022, 06:28:50 AM

Actually, the super-flyweight division is currently popular in the US too. Chocolatito Gonzales and El Gallo Estrada are main-event fighters in the US over the years. So hopefully the winner of this unification will face Estrada (WBC) or Martinez (fresh from beating Jerwin Ancajas in their rematch) either in Japan or in the US for the undisputed belts. Hopefully, Martinez won't hide his IBF belt in Argentina.

It's possible, specially if they have boxers in the super-flyweight that can match against Estrada and Martinez and have it either in Japan or US.

I guess it's a dream for boxers as well to travel to Japan and have that experience fighting in a different soil because that's how tough boxers are build. Traveling to the opponents backyard and hand them a beating.

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In terms of weighing in the boxers that they fought in their entire career, I see that Ioka does have a better lineup of opponents compared to Franco.

Although it doesn't mean that Ioka should be tougher as Franco is also a champion and to reach that stage is tough work.

I just wonder why some of the Japanese top boxers always fight in Japan and not considering to fight outside their country. Who's responsible for that?

The smaller weight classes are often dominated by Asian fighters so there is not a lot of interest in these divisions in the United States and Europe. There is not really an incentive to fight outside of their country. Inoue has had a few fights in the United States but as good as he is he is not really that popular over there.

The Japanese promoters have enough money to get the fight held in their backyard for their boxers, and of course, they want to serve their boxing community in their country so they want their best Japanese fighters to do their fight here in their backyard, of course, to get support from the home crowds, the smaller weight classes may not be popular in the US but some of the best fighters are on these or have been on these divisions like Inoue and Manny Pacquiao and Donaire and they are and once part of the ring magazine boxers of the year.

I agree. If Japanese promoters have huge budgets then they can easily host their fighters' events. Back then, Japanese promoters like Teiken are handling foreign fighters too like Chocolatito Gonzales and Jorge Linares. Now it is declining but still, they have enough money to cover their fighters in order to stop them from visiting their opponents' backyards.

Actually, the super-flyweight division is currently popular in the US too. Chocolatito Gonzales and El Gallo Estrada are main-event fighters in the US over the years. So hopefully the winner of this unification will face Estrada (WBC) or Martinez (fresh from beating Jerwin Ancajas in their rematch) either in Japan or in the US for the undisputed belts. Hopefully, Martinez won't hide his IBF belt in Argentina.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 25, 2022, 07:58:27 PM

In terms of weighing in the boxers that they fought in their entire career, I see that Ioka does have a better lineup of opponents compared to Franco.

Although it doesn't mean that Ioka should be tougher as Franco is also a champion and to reach that stage is tough work.

I just wonder why some of the Japanese top boxers always fight in Japan and not considering to fight outside their country. Who's responsible for that?

The smaller weight classes are often dominated by Asian fighters so there is not a lot of interest in these divisions in the United States and Europe. There is not really an incentive to fight outside of their country. Inoue has had a few fights in the United States but as good as he is he is not really that popular over there.

The Japanese promoters have enough money to get the fight held in their backyard for their boxers, and of course, they want to serve their boxing community in their country so they want their best Japanese fighters to do their fight here in their backyard, of course, to get support from the home crowds, the smaller weight classes may not be popular in the US but some of the best fighters are on these or have been on these divisions like Inoue and Manny Pacquiao and Donaire and they are and once part of the ring magazine boxers of the year.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 25, 2022, 07:58:27 PM

In terms of weighing in the boxers that they fought in their entire career, I see that Ioka does have a better lineup of opponents compared to Franco.

Although it doesn't mean that Ioka should be tougher as Franco is also a champion and to reach that stage is tough work.

I just wonder why some of the Japanese top boxers always fight in Japan and not considering to fight outside their country. Who's responsible for that?

The smaller weight classes are often dominated by Asian fighters so there is not a lot of interest in these divisions in the United States and Europe. There is not really an incentive to fight outside of their country. Inoue has had a few fights in the United States but as good as he is he is not really that popular over there.

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Quote from: robelneo on December 25, 2022, 07:39:25 PM

For someone who fought and lasted 12 rounds against Nietes in his prime and beating Nietes in their second match is already a huge achievement for him, he is now in battle tested and I'm sure he will use this experience to beat Joshua this is a good match up considering that both are champions and the fight could go either way, but predict Kazuto to win by a decision here considering that it will be held in Japan.

In terms of weighing in the boxers that they fought in their entire career, I see that Ioka does have a better lineup of opponents compared to Franco.

Although it doesn't mean that Ioka should be tougher as Franco is also a champion and to reach that stage is tough work.

I just wonder why some of the Japanese top boxers always fight in Japan and not considering to fight outside their country. Who's responsible for that?

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Quote from: harizen on December 23, 2022, 09:40:13 AM

Although Franco is roughly 6 years younger than Ioka, we can't consider the age as a big factor here.

That would matter if Kazuto Ioka is already old, but he is only 33 years old, so it's not a big deal despite their huge age difference. I think the experience is way more vital here, and since Kazuto Ioka has more experience, I guess he will have the edge in this fight. Anyway, I think we should wait for the betting odds to determine how bookies see this particular fight.

Kazuto Ioka can be considered to be at his prime in this age so I think in battle between prime boxer, the one with more experience has the advantage unless the opponent has tremendous punching power that can KO his opponent anytime. Looking at the record of both boxer, Kazuto had never been stopped while Franco got 1 stopped in his fight. I will go with Kazuto Ioka in this fight because I believe he is the tougher boxer and has more experience. The knock out percentage is almost identical but in term of toughness, I believe Ioka is tougher for the reason that Ioka hasn't been stopped yet.

For someone who fought and lasted 12 rounds against Nietes in his prime and beating Nietes in their second match is already a huge achievement for him, he is now in battle tested and I'm sure he will use this experience to beat Joshua this is a good match up considering that both are champions and the fight could go either way, but predict Kazuto to win by a decision
here considering that it will be held in Japan.

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This looks like 50/50 to me, both are great boxers with impressive record, but I do agree that Ioka was one advantage, that his he has the crowd behind him as another of their home town hero.

But as per one sportsbook, Ioka is 1.60 favorite against France at 2.30

So this fight could end up in the judges scorecard, I'm not seeing a knockout but it's going to be a war here.

Yep, but if we look about Joshua Franco, he seems like a boxer who stuck and can't improve. This is because he's fight with a same boxer and the result is always same, when he fight with Andrew Moloney he win via unanimous decision, when he fight with Oscar Negrete the result is 2 draw and 1 win, but it's ended via split decision.

I'm more interested to bet by winning method option, Joshua or Ioka via decision is high chance will happen, but I think Ioka has a chance to win via knock out. The odds is really high for 8.80x, I will try to throw for few dollars.

The odds for a knockout is high mate,

Ioka by KO - 8.60
Franco by KO - 9.80

That's already a juicy odd and your few dollars is worth every cent if this will be the outcome of this fight, so yeah why not throw a couple of dollars and see how it goes.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on December 25, 2022, 07:00:42 PM

Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2022, 09:49:39 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 23, 2022, 09:40:13 AM

Although Franco is roughly 6 years younger than Ioka, we can't consider the age as a big factor here.

That would matter if Kazuto Ioka is already old, but he is only 33 years old, so it's not a big deal despite their huge age difference. I think the experience is way more vital here, and since Kazuto Ioka has more experience, I guess he will have the edge in this fight. Anyway, I think we should wait for the betting odds to determine how bookies see this particular fight.

Kazuto Ioka can be considered to be at his prime in this age so I think in battle between prime boxer, the one with more experience has the advantage unless the opponent has tremendous punching power that can KO his opponent anytime. Looking at the record of both boxer, Kazuto had never been stopped while Franco got 1 stopped in his fight. I will go with Kazuto Ioka in this fight because I believe he is the tougher boxer and has more experience. The knock out percentage is almost identical but in term of toughness, I believe Ioka is tougher for the reason that Ioka hasn't been stopped yet.

if kazuto is in good shape and has regular trainings, i would go for kazuto also. his last fight with donnie nietes was UD last july of this year. so this is not a long break for kazuto. obviously, kazuto is the favourite on this match.

the odds at stake right now -

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Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2022, 09:49:39 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 23, 2022, 09:40:13 AM

Although Franco is roughly 6 years younger than Ioka, we can't consider the age as a big factor here.

That would matter if Kazuto Ioka is already old, but he is only 33 years old, so it's not a big deal despite their huge age difference. I think the experience is way more vital here, and since Kazuto Ioka has more experience, I guess he will have the edge in this fight. Anyway, I think we should wait for the betting odds to determine how bookies see this particular fight.

Kazuto Ioka can be considered to be at his prime in this age so I think in battle between prime boxer, the one with more experience has the advantage unless the opponent has tremendous punching power that can KO his opponent anytime. Looking at the record of both boxer, Kazuto had never been stopped while Franco got 1 stopped in his fight. I will go with Kazuto Ioka in this fight because I believe he is the tougher boxer and has more experience. The knock out percentage is almost identical but in term of toughness, I believe Ioka is tougher for the reason that Ioka hasn't been stopped yet.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2022, 09:49:39 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 23, 2022, 09:40:13 AM

Although Franco is roughly 6 years younger than Ioka, we can't consider the age as a big factor here.

That would matter if Kazuto Ioka is already old, but he is only 33 years old, so it's not a big deal despite their huge age difference. I think the experience is way more vital here, and since Kazuto Ioka has more experience, I guess he will have the edge in this fight. Anyway, I think we should wait for the betting odds to determine how bookies see this particular fight.

That's why I said age can't be considered. You just rephrase it hehe.

Moving forward, I have to agree that experience matters, and not being biased against Akaho, but referring to his previous fights, he has the most competitive challenges compared to Franco. Defending his current title several times is not a joke.

I'm sure Akaho will be the Favorite here by the bookies but not sure if the odds gap is that distant or not.

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Saw Joshua Franco fought Moloney live on television. He is a formidable boxer. I'm not familiar with Ioka, but I know he is very popular in Japan, where he was born. This is a style clash. We adore watching champions clash.

Ioka finished his defense versus Nietes. Apparently, he is the more active boxer. Backed by his Japanese fans, Ioka will prevail over his American opponent by unanimous decision.

This is a battle between two champions; we might be able to watch them live if we can locate a link. In the event that you can find down one, share your connections amigos. It surprises me that this will occur next week in New Year.

Both don't have an impressive record despite being champions actually. Ioka spent almost all his fights are only in Japan While Franco had earn his popularity because of his trilogy with Moloney. Ioka however has the advantage over Franco since the event will be in Japan, fans will cheer him.

But it's good to see Japan has something to get crazy about before the new year ends.

This looks like 50/50 to me, both are great boxers with impressive record, but I do agree that Ioka was one advantage, that his he has the crowd behind him as another of their home town hero.

But as per one sportsbook, Ioka is 1.60 favorite against France at 2.30

So this fight could end up in the judges scorecard, I'm not seeing a knockout but it's going to be a war here.

True, there's no knockout here as both boxers are not heavy hitters. Well, if that is the betting odds and you think it looks 50/50, then you should choose the fighter with 2.30 odds as that definitely could give you great value if ever you win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 24, 2022, 03:04:55 AM

This looks like 50/50 to me, both are great boxers with impressive record, but I do agree that Ioka was one advantage, that his he has the crowd behind him as another of their home town hero.

But as per one sportsbook, Ioka is 1.60 favorite against France at 2.30

So this fight could end up in the judges scorecard, I'm not seeing a knockout but it's going to be a war here.

Yep, but if we look about Joshua Franco, he seems like a boxer who stuck and can't improve. This is because he's fight with a same boxer and the result is always same, when he fight with Andrew Moloney he win via unanimous decision, when he fight with Oscar Negrete the result is 2 draw and 1 win, but it's ended via split decision.

I'm more interested to bet by winning method option, Joshua or Ioka via decision is high chance will happen, but I think Ioka has a chance to win via knock out. The odds is really high for 8.80x, I will try to throw for few dollars.

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Quote from: cabron on December 23, 2022, 12:08:47 PM

Quote from: Getmon on December 23, 2022, 10:09:10 AM

Saw Joshua Franco fought Moloney live on television. He is a formidable boxer. I'm not familiar with Ioka, but I know he is very popular in Japan, where he was born. This is a style clash. We adore watching champions clash.

Ioka finished his defense versus Nietes. Apparently, he is the more active boxer. Backed by his Japanese fans, Ioka will prevail over his American opponent by unanimous decision.

This is a battle between two champions; we might be able to watch them live if we can locate a link. In the event that you can find down one, share your connections amigos. It surprises me that this will occur next week in New Year.

Both don't have an impressive record despite being champions actually. Ioka spent almost all his fights are only in Japan While Franco had earn his popularity because of his trilogy with Moloney. Ioka however has the advantage over Franco since the event will be in Japan, fans will cheer him.

But it's good to see Japan has something to get crazy about before the new year ends.

This looks like 50/50 to me, both are great boxers with impressive record, but I do agree that Ioka was one advantage, that his he has the crowd behind him as another of their home town hero.

But as per one sportsbook, Ioka is 1.60 favorite against France at 2.30

So this fight could end up in the judges scorecard, I'm not seeing a knockout but it's going to be a war here.

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Quote from: cabron on December 23, 2022, 12:08:47 PM

Quote from: Getmon on December 23, 2022, 10:09:10 AM

Saw Joshua Franco fought Moloney live on television. He is a formidable boxer. I'm not familiar with Ioka, but I know he is very popular in Japan, where he was born. This is a style clash. We adore watching champions clash.

Ioka finished his defense versus Nietes. Apparently, he is the more active boxer. Backed by his Japanese fans, Ioka will prevail over his American opponent by unanimous decision.

This is a battle between two champions; we might be able to watch them live if we can locate a link. In the event that you can find down one, share your connections amigos. It surprises me that this will occur next week in New Year.

Both don't have an impressive record despite being champions actually. Ioka spent almost all his fights are only in Japan While Franco had earn his popularity because of his trilogy with Moloney. Ioka however has the advantage over Franco since the event will be in Japan, fans will cheer him.

But it's good to see Japan has something to get crazy about before the new year ends.

Numerous boxing divisions are ruled by Japanese champions, such as Naoya Inoue. What's more, Japan is a rich country which implies there is a high probability that they will be the one facilitating world title events very much like the USA and Europe. In a literal sense, you need not necessarily venture into the hometown of your opponents to be impressive. But I also agree that going to fights anywhere will make some good impressions. It is risky, robberies happen whether you are the champion, Manny Pacquiao was robbed in Australia. Possibly one of the reasons Floyd Mayweather Jr. never fought outside of the USA.

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Quote from: Getmon on December 23, 2022, 10:09:10 AM

Saw Joshua Franco fought Moloney live on television. He is a formidable boxer. I'm not familiar with Ioka, but I know he is very popular in Japan, where he was born. This is a style clash. We adore watching champions clash.

Ioka finished his defense versus Nietes. Apparently, he is the more active boxer. Backed by his Japanese fans, Ioka will prevail over his American opponent by unanimous decision.

This is a battle between two champions; we might be able to watch them live if we can locate a link. In the event that you can find down one, share your connections amigos. It surprises me that this will occur next week in New Year.

Both don't have an impressive record despite being champions actually. Ioka spent almost all his fights are only in Japan While Franco had earn his popularity because of his trilogy with Moloney. Ioka however has the advantage over Franco since the event will be in Japan, fans will cheer him.

But it's good to see Japan has something to get crazy about before the new year ends.

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Saw Joshua Franco fought Moloney live on television. He is a formidable boxer. I'm not familiar with Ioka, but I know he is very popular in Japan, where he was born. This is a style clash. We adore watching champions clash.

Ioka finished his defense versus Nietes. Apparently, he is the more active boxer. Backed by his Japanese fans, Ioka will prevail over his American opponent by unanimous decision.

This is a battle between two champions; we might be able to watch them live if we can locate a link. In the event that you can find down one, share your connections amigos. It surprises me that this will occur next week in New Year.

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Quote from: harizen on December 23, 2022, 09:40:13 AM

Although Franco is roughly 6 years younger than Ioka, we can't consider the age as a big factor here.

That would matter if Kazuto Ioka is already old, but he is only 33 years old, so it's not a big deal despite their huge age difference. I think the experience is way more vital here, and since Kazuto Ioka has more experience, I guess he will have the edge in this fight. Anyway, I think we should wait for the betting odds to determine how bookies see this particular fight.

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