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Quote from: OgNasty on December 17, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

It’s finally time… Conor McGregor will be stepping back into the fight game after a long time off recovering from injury to fight Logan Paul in a boxing match in India. Logan is quite a bit bigger than Conor, but Conor is a winner and Logan is a loser so this could be a good fight. Logan is clearly stronger, bigger, and younger, but Conor is a real fighter…

Indeed, Conor really proven himself being a real fighter despite of the previous injuries that challenged his career. But I don't see this as a threat on him to fight with Logan Paul, but when it comes to size that doesn't matter as long as Conor didn't change his performance and training routine. Everything will be more exciting for him and for Logan Paul even though there's minimal variations of his fighting ability.
Furthermore, this aspiring fighter Logan must not be be underestimated and Conor should study his fighting strategies even though he's a professional and experienced fighter.

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Quote from: o48o on December 28, 2024, 04:46:50 PM

The other guy however was a boxer and trained exactly for that kind of match. He can read the ring better and his techniques would also be like reflexes but they would all fit to the rules.

Logan might be the boxer but he doesn’t seem like a true pro, or if he is, it’s only by name as his record doesn’t reflect it, while Conor is primarily an MMA fighter, he’s also a licensed boxer, which is why he was able to fight Mayweather in a professional bout.

At this point, I don’t really see it as a mismatch but it feels more like an evenly matched fight. Bookmakers should probably start with odds like 1.90 for the moneyline and wait to see how the line moves. However, I doubt the line will shift much since balanced odds like that would attract gamblers to bet on both sides, which is exactly what the bookies want.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 28, 2024, 08:34:41 AM

MMA is very different from boxing. In boxing, you need to pace yourself and must learn to conserve your energy because the duration of the fight is longer than MMA, and on MMA, you can rest if there is a takedown compared to boxing, where you can get knockout in any seconds if you are careless, and since Logan is an experienced boxer and Connor has a long layoff, he'll have a hard time with his condition.
Every fighter's enemy is the ring rust.

My old martial arts teacher had background in kickboxing, BJJ and krav maga. He did some cage fighting and educated police force in self defense. I never forget I never what he told me when i asked if he could take one semi-famous boxer in the boxing match. He immediately laughed that he would lose. Reason being because he is a fighter, not a boxer.

Majority of techniques that helped him win in the past would be ruled out, and they work like reflexes to him. Reason why he was so good is because he was quick to read the situation and had a huge toolbox of ways to beat someone. In a boxing ring, he would need to limit his strategy, and rhythm of the match would be different.

The other guy however was a boxer and trained exactly for that kind of match. He can read the ring better and his techniques would also be like reflexes but they would all fit to the rules.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 28, 2024, 12:49:51 PM

I just saw an ad for a Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor fight. I guess even the promoters don't know who is fighting in this... That also shows that this isn't a serious fight and probably won't happen in my opinion. I think Logan and Conor both saw their stars starting to dim and latched on to each other for a little social media boost. Honestly though, I think both "fighters" are washed. Logan never really deserved to be called a fighter in the first place, he isn't Jake, and Conor is strung out on drugs and will probably never enter the octagon again.

lol, if this is true, it must have hurt Logan's ego, being mistaken for his younger brother must have hurt especially in a "fight" that you are supposedly participating in.

I completely agree that Logan never deserves to be called a fighter, as for Conor, kind of feel bad about him, the guy broke his leg and probably hasn't mentally recovered from it and yeah, I doubt he'll be inside the octagon again.

Anyway, other than their loyal fans, I am sure no one would bat an eye if this fight never happen.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 03:03:37 PM

Quote from: Jating on December 17, 2024, 03:48:33 PM

And this is the tweet from Conor,

https://x.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1868946259165544560

Maybe others might asked, why India, it's because they are in talks with the Ambani family, one of richest person is Mukesh Ambani. And his son's recent wedding was reported to be cost around $600 million. So paying this athletes could be just peanuts for him and his family.

With that it's obvious that this is just another money grab for Conor.

This is some interesting news, thought Conor McGregor had settled for some Hollywood action after seeing him on one or two movies and thought he was comfortable making some easy money Roll Eyes

...but stepping back in the ring is a bold move for him...and btw has he fully recovered from that broken leg because I thought he was retired for good Roll Eyes

and why boxing thought his better with MMA as his a bad boxer..

He once did it with Floyd though which I guess boxing makes sense since it wouldn't be good for his leg if one fighter would just kick that leg. Then another surgery to undergo.

Boxing would make sense if he still can make the footwork but I doubt it, he is already worn out. India I think is still not the final venue, they could work this out if they just pick somewhere else. Japan is not possible, the Japanese love violent clashes. Saudi is good but they are not fans of exhibitions.

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Quote from: Jating on December 17, 2024, 03:48:33 PM

And this is the tweet from Conor,

https://x.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1868946259165544560

Maybe others might asked, why India, it's because they are in talks with the Ambani family, one of richest person is Mukesh Ambani. And his son's recent wedding was reported to be cost around $600 million. So paying this athletes could be just peanuts for him and his family.

With that it's obvious that this is just another money grab for Conor.

This is some interesting news, thought Conor McGregor had settled for some Hollywood action after seeing him on one or two movies and thought he was comfortable making some easy money Roll Eyes

...but stepping back in the ring is a bold move for him...and btw has he fully recovered from that broken leg because I thought he was retired for good Roll Eyes

and why boxing thought his better with MMA as his a bad boxer..

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I just saw an ad for a Jake Paul vs Conor McGregor fight. I guess even the promoters don't know who is fighting in this... That also shows that this isn't a serious fight and probably won't happen in my opinion. I think Logan and Conor both saw their stars starting to dim and latched on to each other for a little social media boost. Honestly though, I think both "fighters" are washed. Logan never really deserved to be called a fighter in the first place, he isn't Jake, and Conor is strung out on drugs and will probably never enter the octagon again.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 28, 2024, 08:34:41 AM

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But here it's very different, no one has the advantage in striking, although we can say Conor because of his MMA background. And in his fight with Floyd, he gave Mayweather a fight in the first couple of rounds. But after that, he gets tired and gas out.

MMA is very different from boxing. In boxing, you need to pace yourself and must learn to conserve your energy because the duration of the fight is longer than MMA, and on MMA, you can rest if there is a takedown compared to boxing, where you can get knockout in any seconds if you are careless, and since Logan is an experienced boxer and Connor has a long layoff, he'll have a hard time with his condition.
Every fighter's enemy is the ring rust.

How can you rest when dude is trying to choke you or twist your limbs or break your bone? Takedowns or ground games are more exhausting than regular strike throwing. In striking, you throw strikes, put hands up, that is second or seconds. In ground games, it is minutes. Put a barbell of your weight and try benching it for 2-3 minutes non-stop with seconds of rest. Btw boxers can rest a little in clinch, and they can clinch for all 12 rounds. Moreover, I am not sure what is more energy consuming, (3min fight + 1 min rest)*12 or 5min fight and (5min fight + 1 min rest) *5. Boxing fight is longer, but they have more than twice more time to rest. And some MMA fights have 10min first round, 1 min rest, 5min second format.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 28, 2024, 08:34:41 AM

MMA is very different from boxing. In boxing, you need to pace yourself and must learn to conserve your energy because the duration of the fight is longer than MMA, and on MMA, you can rest if there is a takedown compared to boxing, where you can get knockout in any seconds if you are careless, and since Logan is an experienced boxer and Connor has a long layoff, he'll have a hard time with his condition.
Every fighter's enemy is the ring rust.

Yes, these are different types of martial arts, but if this fight takes place, then we need to take into account the fact that McGregor is a professional fighter, he was a champion and this needs to be taken into account, no matter if it is a boxing match or not. McGregor had a long break, this will also play a role, and perhaps his lifestyle will also be reflected, but we do not know anything about Paul, how well he is prepared for the fight. In any case, McGregor will be the favorite in this fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 28, 2024, 08:34:41 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 25, 2024, 05:43:20 AM

But here it's very different, no one has the advantage in striking, although we can say Conor because of his MMA background. And in his fight with Floyd, he gave Mayweather a fight in the first couple of rounds. But after that, he gets tired and gas out.

MMA is very different from boxing. In boxing, you need to pace yourself and must learn to conserve your energy because the duration of the fight is longer than MMA, and on MMA, you can rest if there is a takedown compared to boxing, where you can get knockout in any seconds if you are careless, and since Logan is an experienced boxer and Connor has a long layoff, he'll have a hard time with his condition.
Every fighter's enemy is the ring rust.

About conserving energy and stuff, I bet LP already has some nonsense rules in his back pocket. I mean something like 2min rounds for a 8 round fight, same as his brother's fight versus Tyson. In the UFC title and main event fights (and those are what CMG is used to do) go 5x 5min rounds, that's a 25min fight. I am sure the max length of their "boxing" match will be less than that. Well, let's see when they announce the official rules for this (I guess) staged fight. The promo for it will be the best part I suppose while the actual fight might be yet another big disappointment, even though it sounds promising.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 25, 2024, 05:43:20 AM

But here it's very different, no one has the advantage in striking, although we can say Conor because of his MMA background. And in his fight with Floyd, he gave Mayweather a fight in the first couple of rounds. But after that, he gets tired and gas out.

MMA is very different from boxing. In boxing, you need to pace yourself and must learn to conserve your energy because the duration of the fight is longer than MMA, and on MMA, you can rest if there is a takedown compared to boxing, where you can get knockout in any seconds if you are careless, and since Logan is an experienced boxer and Connor has a long layoff, he'll have a hard time with his condition.
Every fighter's enemy is the ring rust.

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Quote from: SamReomo on December 22, 2024, 05:20:40 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 18, 2024, 01:15:15 PM

I don't believe it will be a scripted fight. Both fighters have way too big of an ego for that, along with some personal beef. If Logan loses then you know Jake is going to want a piece of Conor. If Conor loses, he might be done forever, or maybe they will agree on an MMA style rematch? I think that's what the people have always wanted from these fights. I doubt either fighter would be willing to lose intentionally though. They both make money through their image, not fighting these days. A loss would have serious career ramifications.

Whatever you said can be true but after watching that Jake Paul and Tyson's match I don't think that his brother is going to refuse any kind of scripted match for money. There's chance that Jake Paul did the scripted match because Tyson might have convinced him as that guy has spent most of the money that he earned during his days, and Jack might favored him. If that's the case then surely Logan and Conor will do actual fighting instead of scripted one but there's still chance that the match can be scripted somehow.

Not going to be scripted as neither is a professional boxer, the only thing that it could be choreographed is like the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson, as obviously Tyson is pure heavyweight and has the power to knockout anyone, although in the fight, it was really his age that was a big factor that's why he can't pull the trigger anymore and there was speculation that it was engineered from the beginner.

But here it's very different, no one has the advantage in striking, although we can say Conor because of his MMA background. And in his fight with Floyd, he gave Mayweather a fight in the first couple of rounds. But after that, he gets tired and gas out.

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Quote from: SamReomo on December 22, 2024, 05:20:40 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 18, 2024, 01:15:15 PM

I don't believe it will be a scripted fight. Both fighters have way too big of an ego for that, along with some personal beef...

Whatever you said can be true but after watching that Jake Paul and Tyson's match I don't think that his brother is going to refuse any kind of scripted match for money. ... but there's still chance that the match can be scripted somehow.

It will only be scripted if its someone against a notable and retired pro boxer that only do for exhibit match like Mayweather, Pacquiao, to repel and limit these two power capacity of throwing punches.

But for these egoistic individuals i doubt it's scripted, as outcome for these match may vary their records and future pro matches.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 18, 2024, 01:15:15 PM

I don't believe it will be a scripted fight. Both fighters have way too big of an ego for that, along with some personal beef. If Logan loses then you know Jake is going to want a piece of Conor. If Conor loses, he might be done forever, or maybe they will agree on an MMA style rematch? I think that's what the people have always wanted from these fights. I doubt either fighter would be willing to lose intentionally though. They both make money through their image, not fighting these days. A loss would have serious career ramifications.

Whatever you said can be true but after watching that Jake Paul and Tyson's match I don't think that his brother is going to refuse any kind of scripted match for money. There's chance that Jake Paul did the scripted match because Tyson might have convinced him as that guy has spent most of the money that he earned during his days, and Jack might favored him. If that's the case then surely Logan and Conor will do actual fighting instead of scripted one but there's still chance that the match can be scripted somehow.

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Quote from: xLays on December 22, 2024, 01:41:20 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 17, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

It’s finally time… Conor McGregor will be stepping back into the fight game after a long time off recovering from injury to fight Logan Paul in a boxing match in India. Logan is quite a bit bigger than Conor, but Conor is a winner and Logan is a loser so this could be a good fight. Logan is clearly stronger, bigger, and younger, but Conor is a real fighter…

If the match is in boxing, I’d say Logan Paul has a chance, but not much of one. However, if the match takes place in the Octagon, it’s a no brainer—McGregor would obviously win. But wait, Logan Paul is a wrestler remember WWE? Lol. Anyway why is the fight venue is India? Never heard any major or even exhibition match happened in India. I have nothing against India, just my observation.

This fight is going to be in boxing ring, and we all know that if Conor is still the same fighter, his left hand is deadly as he knockout most of his opponents with that powerful straight and he almost did that to Floyd when they fought. But we are now sure though how Conor is today as he is out for a long time from either the Octagon or in the ring.

But regarding you question on what India, it's obvious that the sponsor of this fight in the richest man in India which is the Ambani family. Although I will agree that there have been no major boxing events in India and they are not known to be a boxing nation.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 17, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

It’s finally time… Conor McGregor will be stepping back into the fight game after a long time off recovering from injury to fight Logan Paul in a boxing match in India. Logan is quite a bit bigger than Conor, but Conor is a winner and Logan is a loser so this could be a good fight. Logan is clearly stronger, bigger, and younger, but Conor is a real fighter…

Logan proves to us every time that he is all about chasing money and building a fake legacy, and I respect the fighters he faces but let’s be real, most of them are past their prime and not strong as before. Mike Tyson for example was way too old, and now it’s time for Conor McGregor, who is been out for a while recovering from a serious leg injury. The one time Logan fought a legit and active boxer like Fury, he lost simply because he is not that strong for his age and as a boxer, why not fighting MMA with McGregor?

For this fight in India, I’m going for McGregor too and supporting him to win, even though I’m not his biggest fan. Conor is a real fighter with a winner’s mentality while Logan’s just a hype machine in social media . Sure, Logan’s got size strength, and youth on his side but skill and heart? That’s all McGregor. This could actually be entertaining, I would like to see a knockout, especially that McGregor had some experience in boxing before.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 17, 2024, 03:26:52 PM

It’s finally time… Conor McGregor will be stepping back into the fight game after a long time off recovering from injury to fight Logan Paul in a boxing match in India. Logan is quite a bit bigger than Conor, but Conor is a winner and Logan is a loser so this could be a good fight. Logan is clearly stronger, bigger, and younger, but Conor is a real fighter…

If the match is in boxing, I’d say Logan Paul has a chance, but not much of one. However, if the match takes place in the Octagon, it’s a no brainer—McGregor would obviously win. But wait, Logan Paul is a wrestler remember WWE? Lol. Anyway why is the fight venue is India? Never heard any major or even exhibition match happened in India. I have nothing against India, just my observation.

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Quote from: L4rs_ on December 22, 2024, 04:27:25 AM

Logan Paul might be bigger but don't forget what a beast Conor McGregor was a few years ago he's 100% the better fighter

in MMA yes but in boxing, not really sure about that. I am not saying that Conor McGregor doesn't have a chance of winning but isn't really that great, at least the last time I watched him box and it was against Mayweather, anyway, I am hoping he improved a lot after all these years. I'd like to at least see a good fight between the two(though I am not really expecting anything good).

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 21, 2024, 09:41:00 PM

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This is a mismatch and I'm a fan of McGregor because of how he fights in the Octagon, but this isn't Octagon, but it's a boxing ring, and we've seen him fight on the boxing ring. Although he's fighting against a non-pro boxer this time, he has gained way more experience, and that would help him win on this one.

Man, this isn’t Jake Paul, it’s Logan Paul.. his opponent, who currently has 0 wins on record (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/896698).

If we think it’s a mismatch, let’s wait and see how the fight plays out. Remember, McGregor gave Mayweather a good fight, even though he fell short in the end. Against Logan Paul, it’s hard to say. In my opinion, he could win this fight if he trains hard enough, but of course both fighters will go home as a winner because of the big money they'll get.

If we expect a balanced fight of course we will not find it in the exhibition fight, because the fight later is actually like a business in the form of sports, like the fight between tyson vs jack paul previously, they are just influencers trying to get a profit and popularity by challenging fighters who are retired and also no longer active, so it looks like a false courage for me, to be honestly, I hope there will be a fighter who really wants to beat the two brothers, to destroy their mentality not to anymore challenging former athletes in the future Grin

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Quote from: eisen33 on December 21, 2024, 06:02:34 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 20, 2024, 09:19:47 AM

Correct, they are not known to be a boxing country, so it doesn't make sense for that fight to be stage there. And how many big celebrities are willing to travel just to watch this fight live if even this materialized.

But as what they say, "money is money, and so regardless on where the fight is going to be held, as long as the money is good, there will be no problem with either of this two boxers. And not sure if the image of India will improved if the fight is going to be held there.

It looks like McGregor's business is going from bad to worse if he decided to resort to dealing with the Paul brothers. Of course, maybe he saw the scope of the Jake-Tyson fight and thus decided to remind people of himself, but it all looks too dubious, I don't see any other reasons than money to get involved in all this. And is McGregor so strong in boxing that he would agree to such a fight, I highly doubt it.

Well I have the impression that his business is going down, but it seems the other way around, they have sold it to someone already. And I check Logan Paul's weight and it's around 93 kg, and Conor around 77 kg.

So there is a big disparity and so I think they will have to fight on a catch weight here or Conor really going to increase his body weight, but it could take his advantage against Logan Paul. But perhaps they are ironing thing out specially the weight and how much each one will get in terms of money.

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