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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 23, 2021, 05:29:30 AM

I still want to believe that this is a real (and not staged) fight in which Mike Tyson will knock out Logan Paul.

I don't like Paul Logan. He's too loud and arrogant. Mike Tyson is a boxing legend. Exchanging money for a place in history (in my opinion) is a very bad deal. I want to see a real furious fight (not a stage play). And Mike Tyson can show us this kind of boxing.

The popularity of boxing is indeed falling. But Mike Tyson was actively boxing at a time when boxing was at its peak. This is why we are all so interested in the coming battle.

Unfortunately, we won't be able to see a prime Mike Tyson but his fight against Logan Paul gives us an opportunity to see Mike Tyson fight in the ring. I have no doubt that he could KO Logan Paul, he is a true boxing champion while Logan Paul is just a youtuber, I hope he realized that he is risking his health fighting a legend.

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I still want to believe that this is a real (and not staged) fight in which Mike Tyson will knock out Logan Paul.

I don't like Paul Logan. He's too loud and arrogant. Mike Tyson is a boxing legend. Exchanging money for a place in history (in my opinion) is a very bad deal. I want to see a real furious fight (not a stage play). And Mike Tyson can show us this kind of boxing.

The popularity of boxing is indeed falling. But Mike Tyson was actively boxing at a time when boxing was at its peak. This is why we are all so interested in the coming battle.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 22, 2021, 07:41:53 PM

For Tysons side then it would be part of its Pride on not to lose on a non boxer despite of being old then he couldnt really take such scenario but if there would be some
sort of contract or script then it wont be surprised with those probabilities.

That's a valid explanation, actually, we have our own speculation, whether there will be a script or not, we should believe that we think in this fight as that would tell us where to put our bet. I'm also sure that you guys who are interested in this fight are also betting on this fight, right? so we have to make a decision that would help us to win.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 22, 2021, 07:35:59 PM

The exhibition fights are no way affecting any of the combat sports, good boxing events are making huge money as long as they can attract an audience and MMA is making huge numbers as well. There is an audience as long as it is entertaining and how the promoters are able to promote the fight.

I'd say they've had an effect on boxing, though a positive one. I've felt for a few years now that boxing as a sport is generally going downhill in terms of popularity. This is partly due to the fees that are required to view the bigger fights, and the fact that most of the viewership come from a working class background, and might not be able to afford the price required. This has resulted in more, and more fans pirating the fights, and boxing losing revenue. Then, there's the issue with big fights not being made, probably because they can get more money building a fighter up, without actually putting them against anyone that could be competitive.

The exhibition fights we're seeing recently particularly with Logal Paul, and Jake Paul at least are bringing a new audience to boxing. Yeah, it isn't really that entertaining for a lot of us, at least the Logan Paul vs Mayweather fight wasn't, but it's putting more eyes on boxing as a result of Jake Paul being quite dis likable.

Mike Tyson going against Logan Paul is only going to continue to put new eyes on the sport, and as a result build on viewer retention, and make boxing more money down the line.

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Quote from: STT on December 22, 2021, 05:32:53 PM

Woodley got a couple million for losing so its feasible but no its fair enough to guess it was just a fight between two boxers with not alot of experience in that field and Jake Paul won with a lucky punch. It was pretty unguarded and in theory he could have also lost in the same way. I dont relate it too much to a fight involving Tyson, different fight different people. I think Jake is way more likely off script then Logan, thats my take not that Im an expert on the idiot brothers but Jake is further down the scale.

This is where they do matter on which they do know that they could still earn millions even if they do lost the fight which it would really be just normal for them on not to take some serious fight?

For Tysons side then it would be part of its Pride on not to lose on a non boxer despite of being old then he couldnt really take such scenario but if there would be some
sort of contract or script then it wont be surprised with those probabilities.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 21, 2021, 07:59:34 AM

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The reality is, nowadays, boxers do not anymore care more about their pride, they fight when there's a lot of money involved. You see, Mayweather retire early only to get into exhibition fights and still makes millions of dollars, if he could stay in the professional, he could have given the challenger a better opportunity to show their skills against him.

After they are fighting to earn money as they do not know any other profession to make money and if they get the opportunity to make them, so be it. As long as there is an audience willing to pay money to watch them fight, they will continue that route.

Quote from: Natalim on December 21, 2021, 07:59:34 AM

Thing is, professional boxing are affected with this exhibition fights as fans are also willing to spend mony just to see it, where's the essence of the real competition then?

The exhibition fights are no way affecting any of the combat sports, good boxing events are making huge money as long as they can attract an audience and MMA is making huge numbers as well. There is an audience as long as it is entertaining and how the promoters are able to promote the fight.

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Woodley got a couple million for losing so its feasible but no its fair enough to guess it was just a fight between two boxers with not alot of experience in that field and Jake Paul won with a lucky punch. It was pretty unguarded and in theory he could have also lost in the same way. I dont relate it too much to a fight involving Tyson, different fight different people. I think Jake is way more likely off script then Logan, thats my take not that Im an expert on the idiot brothers but Jake is further down the scale.

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Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Woodley is retired UFC fighter and former champion. If Logan trains as much as hard as Jake (and I think he trains even harder and more concentrated), then he might maximum surprise us in this fight, and as minimum survive in all the rounds.

There will be people saying that the fight was scripted. Do you really believe someone would agree to be knockout so cold for money?

You cant tell because there are people who would do all sorts of things just for the sake of money and i do agree with some points though about those probabilities if he trains hard but this cant really be achieved in

a short span of time which this one do involves a long term training but other members posted that he was just chilled out and partying because he do really knows that he cant beat up Mike no matter what.

I dont really give out the probabilities no matter how hard he do train on a short span of time.

I follow you with that, there are people who are willing to do anything for the sake of money, even those known personalities they are willing to risk everything to earn money and not just a small amount of money that in stake right now, it's a huge amount and it's not impossible that Paul will accept that fate if in case Tyson will get a lucky KO punch.. Grin

We don't know what fate will bring with both Mike and Paul. It will all be concluded when the fight already happened. Roll Eyes

Everything would really be speculative but basing off into those experience alone in between fighters then we could really tell on whose gonna win but we cant avoid the fact about those chances of have some lucky punch came from Logan which could knock down Tyson. Do you really believe on that?

Speaking of money then everyone would really be doing all sorts of things just to attain or get a hold of it but well its a personal kind of choice and its none of our business.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 22, 2021, 07:59:40 AM

Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Woodley is retired UFC fighter and former champion. If Logan trains as much as hard as Jake (and I think he trains even harder and more concentrated), then he might maximum surprise us in this fight, and as minimum survive in all the rounds.

There will be people saying that the fight was scripted. Do you really believe someone would agree to be knockout so cold for money?

You cant tell because there are people who would do all sorts of things just for the sake of money and i do agree with some points though about those probabilities if he trains hard but this cant really be achieved in

a short span of time which this one do involves a long term training but other members posted that he was just chilled out and partying because he do really knows that he cant beat up Mike no matter what.

I dont really give out the probabilities no matter how hard he do train on a short span of time.

I follow you with that, there are people who are willing to do anything for the sake of money, even those known personalities they are willing to risk everything to earn money and not just a small amount of money that in stake right now, it's a huge amount and it's not impossible that Paul will accept that fate if in case Tyson will get a lucky KO punch.. Grin

We don't know what fate will bring with both Mike and Paul. It will all be concluded when the fight already happened. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 22, 2021, 07:59:40 AM

Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Woodley is retired UFC fighter and former champion. If Logan trains as much as hard as Jake (and I think he trains even harder and more concentrated), then he might maximum surprise us in this fight, and as minimum survive in all the rounds.

There will be people saying that the fight was scripted. Do you really believe someone would agree to be knockout so cold for money?

You cant tell because there are people who would do all sorts of things just for the sake of money and i do agree with some points though about those probabilities if he trains hard but this cant really be achieved in

a short span of time which this one do involves a long term training but other members posted that he was just chilled out and partying because he do really knows that he cant beat up Mike no matter what.

I dont really give out the probabilities no matter how hard he do train on a short span of time.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 22, 2021, 07:59:40 AM

Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Many people still consider this a controversy and think it has been set up in such a way and some people say that the hand code of the jack is too conspicuous in this regard

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 22, 2021, 07:59:40 AM

Woodley is retired UFC fighter and former champion. If Logan trains as much as hard as Jake (and I think he trains even harder and more concentrated), then he might maximum surprise us in this fight, and as minimum survive in all the rounds.

There will be people saying that the fight was scripted. Do you really believe someone would agree to be knockout so cold for money?

I hope for something more for Logan later, even though he will lose but of course there must be something that can be presented so that the match does not seem monotonous.

many thought he needed money and deliberately relented, but things like this are still just wild speculation and all speculators can't really show the truth.

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Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Woodley is retired UFC fighter and former champion. If Logan trains as much as hard as Jake (and I think he trains even harder and more concentrated), then he might maximum surprise us in this fight, and as minimum survive in all the rounds.

There will be people saying that the fight was scripted. Do you really believe someone would agree to be knockout so cold for money?

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These publicity matches are always hard to analyse beforehand, but looking at the results here most of us seem to go with Mike Tyson. Not sure if this match is going to be gigged. Logan Paul is in it for publicity and fame. Even if he loses he will have achieved that. Mike Tyson is more in it for the money and with all his experience he will not give up easily. Honestly I wish we could have seen Mike Tyson to fight these YouTubers during his prime time. All the fights would have ended in a knockout, would have been hilarious.

I think everyone knows that his is a pr-stunt and not much else and i usually don't watch stuff like that but because it's mike tyson i make an exception here, which i already did for the Tyson Roy Jones Jr. fight even though i can't Logan Paul and everything that he is doing and releasing. In the eighties i was still to young to watch a fight of Mike Tyson live so i take the chance now even though i am totally aware that this has not much to do with a real fight of Mike Tyson when he was in his prime. I am not that sure, if a knockdown or even a knockout will happen because i think they will use bigger and softer gloves again, which Tyson already did in the Roy Jones fight.

The match is given more and more hype and through some means people are kept attracted towards it. Making similar controversial interviews in a funny way makes people watch them as well as boosts them set a reminder. Everything is perfect business and this is destruction of the boxing. Even if Tyson gets down it isn't gonna be a big deal for some reason.

I agree that if this kind of boxing matches will continue and will multiply, this is the destruction of boxing in general. Boxing will become like WWE and all those shows created only for entertainment. The real boxing is not exhibition. It is a sport between two real fighters who have trained really hard for a fight. And that fight is a real fight that could even cost them their physical or mental health or even their life. What the Paul brothers are doing are mere shows.

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Quote from: Mauser on December 21, 2021, 05:23:06 AM

These publicity matches are always hard to analyse beforehand, but looking at the results here most of us seem to go with Mike Tyson. Not sure if this match is going to be gigged. Logan Paul is in it for publicity and fame. Even if he loses he will have achieved that. Mike Tyson is more in it for the money and with all his experience he will not give up easily. Honestly I wish we could have seen Mike Tyson to fight these YouTubers during his prime time. All the fights would have ended in a knockout, would have been hilarious.

I think everyone knows that his is a pr-stunt and not much else and i usually don't watch stuff like that but because it's mike tyson i make an exception here, which i already did for the Tyson Roy Jones Jr. fight even though i can't Logan Paul and everything that he is doing and releasing. In the eighties i was still to young to watch a fight of Mike Tyson live so i take the chance now even though i am totally aware that this has not much to do with a real fight of Mike Tyson when he was in his prime. I am not that sure, if a knockdown or even a knockout will happen because i think they will use bigger and softer gloves again, which Tyson already did in the Roy Jones fight.

The match is given more and more hype and through some means people are kept attracted towards it. Making similar controversial interviews in a funny way makes people watch them as well as boosts them set a reminder. Everything is perfect business and this is destruction of the boxing. Even if Tyson gets down it isn't gonna be a big deal for some reason.

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I just watched Logan Paul's interview, he said that he seriously can't beat Tyson Fury but he certainly believes that he have what it takes to beat Iron Mike Tyson Huh

Like really? I certainly laughed at that point. I think Logan Paul has a death wish for calling out Mike Tyson, I don't certainly believe at one point that Logan understands what he did and the risks of fighting Mike.
I don't know if anyone here saw Mike's training and sparring, certainly he's still got that beast inside of him very much alive and ready to kill its prey.

That's just another flame for the audience to be more interested in their match. It's not that death wish but he has to say words so people will be more interested in what's about to happen. I saw Mike's training and they're really the training of a real champion.
But don't take it seriously when Logan talks about any of his opponent because it's part of the marketing to get more views and fans would be eager in seeing him getting beaten.

Not actually surprising and its always been like this on where they do really need to market it out to make more revenue on upcoming fight to have.Logan doesnt really stood a chance on beating Tyson even
he's old because this is where we could already seen the differences of a true boxer and to someone who do just pretend to be one.
Whooping Logans ass would be really entertaining to be watched.

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Quote from: yazher on December 20, 2021, 11:54:19 PM

Still, a lot of time for Logan to train for a strategy to beat Tyson but if he will be caught with that peekaboo that still has the power to knock out a boxer, his career will be ended on the spot. He is fighting a guy with a heart of a true champion, even though he is already decades away from his prime, he still has that confidence to beat his opponent as soon as the bell ring.

We're all counting that this is going to be a Mike's match. There's no career to end for Mike even if he losses this match. He's already becoming old and such match is just like a plus to him.

Quote from: yazher on December 20, 2021, 11:54:19 PM

Logan Paul needs to take this fight seriously or the old man will smash the floor with his face.

He surely will because this is a match that he has setup. And no way that he's going to be careless when he has faced Mike.

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Quote from: Mauser on December 21, 2021, 05:23:06 AM

These publicity matches are always hard to analyse beforehand, but looking at the results here most of us seem to go with Mike Tyson. Not sure if this match is going to be gigged. Logan Paul is in it for publicity and fame. Even if he loses he will have achieved that. Mike Tyson is more in it for the money and with all his experience he will not give up easily. Honestly I wish we could have seen Mike Tyson to fight these YouTubers during his prime time. All the fights would have ended in a knockout, would have been hilarious.

I think everyone knows that his is a pr-stunt and not much else and i usually don't watch stuff like that but because it's mike tyson i make an exception here, which i already did for the Tyson Roy Jones Jr. fight even though i can't Logan Paul and everything that he is doing and releasing. In the eighties i was still to young to watch a fight of Mike Tyson live so i take the chance now even though i am totally aware that this has not much to do with a real fight of Mike Tyson when he was in his prime. I am not that sure, if a knockdown or even a knockout will happen because i think they will use bigger and softer gloves again, which Tyson already did in the Roy Jones fight.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 21, 2021, 02:51:57 PM

I just watched Logan Paul's interview, he said that he seriously can't beat Tyson Fury but he certainly believes that he have what it takes to beat Iron Mike Tyson Huh

Like really? I certainly laughed at that point. I think Logan Paul has a death wish for calling out Mike Tyson, I don't certainly believe at one point that Logan understands what he did and the risks of fighting Mike.
I don't know if anyone here saw Mike's training and sparring, certainly he's still got that beast inside of him very much alive and ready to kill its prey.

That's just another flame for the audience to be more interested in their match. It's not that death wish but he has to say words so people will be more interested in what's about to happen. I saw Mike's training and they're really the training of a real champion.
But don't take it seriously when Logan talks about any of his opponent because it's part of the marketing to get more views and fans would be eager in seeing him getting beaten.

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Most fans are waiting to whatever surprise Tyson will bring to add more entertainment to this fight. Roll Eyes

Yes.

It's much waiting for that part of Tyson and not really on Logan if he's going to beat him or not. What we're waiting for is what Tyson would do on his end.

There could be a big blow that will make Logan down or whatever it is that would surprise everyone and at the same time becomes entertained.

I'm quite unimpressed about Logan Paul's showmanship lately, he seems like slacking in his training schedules as there's just 2 months left to prepare before their fight. As we can see in Logan's podcasts and social media posts, he's always partying, drinking and stuff. He might already know that what he's doing in his lifestyle now might come back and bounce to him prior to the fight this coming February 2022.
As for Mike, we can see thar he's steadily preparing and training bout this fight, he's much more excited about this face off than his opponent Logan Paul. We'll see how this end soon.

Mike always likes this. Even when he made the exhibition fight against Roy's Jr, he made a lot of video clips showing how dedicated he is showcasing his remaining skills. That solid punch that he is throwing with his used punching bag only expresses how hard he is doing
with his training.

With Paul, he just there to collect money. He's not the type of fighter that will seriously take the call to fight. He just waiting for the date
and wait for what will be the outcome of the fight. Grin

He will collect money, that's given because the fight is a good fight where people are hyped. However, to fight against Mike Tyson, I think Logan Paul understands the risk and he also needs to ensure that his body is fit to avoid Mike's punches and that will only happen if he can move effectively in the ring.

I just watched Logan Paul's interview, he said that he seriously can't beat Tyson Fury but he certainly believes that he have what it takes to beat Iron Mike Tyson Huh

Like really? I certainly laughed at that point. I think Logan Paul has a death wish for calling out Mike Tyson, I don't certainly believe at one point that Logan understands what he did and the risks of fighting Mike.
I don't know if anyone here saw Mike's training and sparring, certainly he's still got that beast inside of him very much alive and ready to kill its prey.

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the exhibition will forever be the exhibition will not change. money is what determines and as long as things like this continue it will be very difficult to change it.
it is very rare for an exhibition match to end in a KO and it is a fact that they are fighting not to knock each other down but for entertainment and to make money easy on both sides as well as promoters

It would mean that it is not about who will win, but to entertain the audience like in the circus. I do not agree with that. I do not know what the real situation looks like, but if there were actually conditions in the contracts that there could not be KO, I think that bookmakers would not want to bet on such a fight at all.

because of the fact that in exhibitions most of their results are draws and it is very difficult to find exhibitions by KO.
it was clear there was something in it and there was definitely an underhand agreement with it.
even though the match between professional boxers and amateurs but still most of them are draws and that happens in jack fights.
It's not impossible that something like this will also apply to this match

I am not saying that it is not possible, but I find it strange that bookmakers take bets on such a fight. After all, if the contract says that no matter how the fight is going on, there will be a draw, it would be the easiest bet in the world. I think there must be something left that can happen, for example by an accident or a lucky (unlucky) punch.

when it will be like that in the event then inevitably the boxers must be able to withstand this so that things do not happen that are not wanted.
on the other hand draw is actually very difficult to do so they need to hold something so that no dangerous blows or collisions occur.
On the other hand, I feel like the city is only doing it as a formality if something like this happens

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