[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 27.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 20, 2021, 10:05:46 AM

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I absolutely agree with you. If he loses, Mike Tyson will lose more than Paul Logan, so he will fight to the end and try to win. I think that Iron Mike should finish this fight as a winner because he is one of the greatest boxers in the world and it is not in his plans to give the victory to some YouTube blogger.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 20, 2021, 09:07:36 AM

After saw the result of his younger brother (Jake Paul) vs Woodley, I'm more confident Logan Paul will win in this match just like Jake Paul did. Even they're different and fight with different boxer, but this just show how success their business. As Tyson has a lose in his record, he wouldn't care... it's different with Mayweather which no lose record, that's why Logan Paul lose the fight.

If they are really in business, then winning is very important to both of them regardless of their record.

Though Mayweather has an undefeated record but Mike Tyson is way more popular than him, we are talking of a legend here compared to Floyd who only have an undefeated record but not an entertaining fighter in the ring. I hope that Mike Tyson will show to the fans that despite his age, he can still fight toe to toe and it would be entertaining if we see some KO here.

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After saw the result of his younger brother (Jake Paul) vs Woodley, I'm more confident Logan Paul will win in this match just like Jake Paul did. Even they're different and fight with different boxer, but this just show how success their business. As Tyson has a lose in his record, he wouldn't care... it's different with Mayweather which no lose record, that's why Logan Paul lose the fight.

Quote from: Naficopa on December 20, 2021, 08:15:47 AM

I am not saying that it is not possible, but I find it strange that bookmakers take bets on such a fight. After all, if the contract says that no matter how the fight is going on, there will be a draw, it would be the easiest bet in the world. I think there must be something left that can happen, for example by an accident or a lucky (unlucky) punch.

IMO draw is difficult bet just like how you predict a boxer win via decision or KO, but yeah draw could happen in exhibition fight.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 08:42:16 AM

Most fans and viewers are waiting for Tyson and not thinking about Paul Grin

and this exhibition is more on Tyson's side, only the script coming from the promoters that will control this fight. I really wanted to see some heavy throw from Mike even there's a kind of talk that happened before this fight will happen. I'm optimistic that Tyson will bring something out for the benefits of fans' enjoyment.

Something like knockdown is likely the best fan enjoyment to be perfectly honest, that's the most anticipated thing to watch in this fight. Even if it's scripted or not seeing Tyson on the ring once again is like a legend rising from the dead, that's the best thing.

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Quote from: livingfree on December 19, 2021, 05:42:15 PM

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Most fans are waiting to whatever surprise Tyson will bring to add more entertainment to this fight. Roll Eyes

Yes.

It's much waiting for that part of Tyson and not really on Logan if he's going to beat him or not. What we're waiting for is what Tyson would do on his end.

There could be a big blow that will make Logan down or whatever it is that would surprise everyone and at the same time becomes entertained.

Most fans and viewers are waiting for Tyson and not thinking about Paul Grin

and this exhibition is more on Tyson's side, only the script coming from the promoters that will control this fight. I really wanted to see some heavy throw from Mike even there's a kind of talk that happened before this fight will happen. I'm optimistic that Tyson will bring something out for the benefits of fans' enjoyment.

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the exhibition will forever be the exhibition will not change. money is what determines and as long as things like this continue it will be very difficult to change it.
it is very rare for an exhibition match to end in a KO and it is a fact that they are fighting not to knock each other down but for entertainment and to make money easy on both sides as well as promoters

It would mean that it is not about who will win, but to entertain the audience like in the circus. I do not agree with that. I do not know what the real situation looks like, but if there were actually conditions in the contracts that there could not be KO, I think that bookmakers would not want to bet on such a fight at all.

because of the fact that in exhibitions most of their results are draws and it is very difficult to find exhibitions by KO.
it was clear there was something in it and there was definitely an underhand agreement with it.
even though the match between professional boxers and amateurs but still most of them are draws and that happens in jack fights.
It's not impossible that something like this will also apply to this match

I am not saying that it is not possible, but I find it strange that bookmakers take bets on such a fight. After all, if the contract says that no matter how the fight is going on, there will be a draw, it would be the easiest bet in the world. I think there must be something left that can happen, for example by an accident or a lucky (unlucky) punch.

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Quote from: Naficopa on December 20, 2021, 07:05:55 AM

Quote from: alpamar99 on December 20, 2021, 03:53:28 AM

the exhibition will forever be the exhibition will not change. money is what determines and as long as things like this continue it will be very difficult to change it.
it is very rare for an exhibition match to end in a KO and it is a fact that they are fighting not to knock each other down but for entertainment and to make money easy on both sides as well as promoters

It would mean that it is not about who will win, but to entertain the audience like in the circus. I do not agree with that. I do not know what the real situation looks like, but if there were actually conditions in the contracts that there could not be KO, I think that bookmakers would not want to bet on such a fight at all.

because of the fact that in exhibitions most of their results are draws and it is very difficult to find exhibitions by KO.
it was clear there was something in it and there was definitely an underhand agreement with it.
even though the match between professional boxers and amateurs but still most of them are draws and that happens in jack fights.
It's not impossible that something like this will also apply to this match

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 20, 2021, 07:17:46 AM

For this fight to be called a clean fight, the agreement should only be the sharing of the revenue, not the outcome of the fight. We support this exhibition fight because we believe we will see an exciting fight, but if they already have the script to follow, then they are just fooling us.

Unfortunately that's the truth, but I think the organizers realize that if there will be a draw again this time or the fight will be too boring, it will be the last fight they made money on. If they want to keep earning from exhibition fights, they'll have to let them spent some blood.

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Compare it to recent fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Richard Commey. I hope that Tyson will not go the same as Mayweather and show us a good fight.

Tyson might have the same way as how Mayweather fought on the last exhibition match.

Yep, I've watched previous Tyson's exhibition match with Roy Jones Jr. it's totally different when he fight in real match, he looks more calm and not trying to hurt Jones. This mean, Tyson could do same with Paul... he will just play more defensive, full distance or hugging each other Tongue

I smell Paul will win easily from their behind agreement, the another thing we need an official statement of this fight when will happen.

That's not gonna happen, I mean Paul having a win here, no way, Tyson will not make it happen as Paul is a loser. A win by Tyson would not make the status of Logan changed as per his record, his W is still "0" - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/896698

Also, Roy Jones Jr. is a good boxer too, so I don't think Tyson trying his best not to hurt him.

But we don't know their agreements here, and how much money is on the line. But I hope Tyson will beat Logan here. Because if Logan will win and that recently, Jake Paul won over Woodley, these Paul brothers will be arrogant to challenge high profile boxers and be arrogant of what they have achieved, even if it is only exhibition matches. Tyson should teach this Logan a lesson real quick. Don't wait for the match to go the distance. If he can finish it one round, he should.

For this fight to be called a clean fight, the agreement should only be the sharing of the revenue, not the outcome of the fight. We support this exhibition fight because we believe we will see an exciting fight, but if they already have the script to follow, then they are just fooling us.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on December 20, 2021, 03:53:28 AM

the exhibition will forever be the exhibition will not change. money is what determines and as long as things like this continue it will be very difficult to change it.
it is very rare for an exhibition match to end in a KO and it is a fact that they are fighting not to knock each other down but for entertainment and to make money easy on both sides as well as promoters

It would mean that it is not about who will win, but to entertain the audience like in the circus. I do not agree with that. I do not know what the real situation looks like, but if there were actually conditions in the contracts that there could not be KO, I think that bookmakers would not want to bet on such a fight at all.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 20, 2021, 03:42:16 AM

There is no doubt that money is the most important thing in this fight. However, in my opinion, Mike should be thinking about making money not only from this fight, but from the next ones. If he wants people to be interested in his next fights, he can't walk this fight, but he has to give everyone an amazing show, preferably KO. And I hope that it will happen.

the exhibition will forever be the exhibition will not change. money is what determines and as long as things like this continue it will be very difficult to change it.
it is very rare for an exhibition match to end in a KO and it is a fact that they are fighting not to knock each other down but for entertainment and to make money easy on both sides as well as promoters

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Quote from: molsewid on December 20, 2021, 03:06:16 AM

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Money might talk well for Tyson,

I mean, if he can take the money and receive more exhibition offers like this, he may follow the script perfectly.

going with the flow will bring more money to his pocket, if he can follow the instructions well, maybe yes or

maybe there's something in this fight that will entertain all the viewers.. Cool

Not saying that a setup for a draw will happen, but we never know what's the real plan behind.

If this case money will talk well for Tyson then expecting a fair fight in this exhibition bout I guess will not going to happen. Well, I don't want to underestimate Tyson's mental capacity on how he will going to deal with it but we can't tell what will be his decision towards the situation. Since we were talking about this exhibition bout is just a way to earn money then maybe money will be going to be the basis of the fight's result. Whatever may the result is I wanted to see Tyson winning the fight against Logan Paul.

There is no doubt that money is the most important thing in this fight. However, in my opinion, Mike should be thinking about making money not only from this fight, but from the next ones. If he wants people to be interested in his next fights, he can't walk this fight, but he has to give everyone an amazing show, preferably KO. And I hope that it will happen.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on December 20, 2021, 01:45:40 AM

Money might talk well for Tyson,

I mean, if he can take the money and receive more exhibition offers like this, he may follow the script perfectly.

going with the flow will bring more money to his pocket, if he can follow the instructions well, maybe yes or

maybe there's something in this fight that will entertain all the viewers.. Cool

Not saying that a setup for a draw will happen, but we never know what's the real plan behind.

If this case money will talk well for Tyson then expecting a fair fight in this exhibition bout I guess will not going to happen. Well, I don't want to underestimate Tyson's mental capacity on how he will going to deal with it but we can't tell what will be his decision towards the situation. Since we were talking about this exhibition bout is just a way to earn money then maybe money will be going to be the basis of the fight's result. Whatever may the result is I wanted to see Tyson winning the fight against Logan Paul.

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these Paul brothers will be arrogant to challenge high profile boxers and be arrogant of what they have achieved, even if it is only exhibition matches.

I doubt Tyson will put dirt on his career profile by being defeated with the likes of Logan Paul. Since it's an exhibition match, the possible output of the fight might be, there will be no winners in that match. With that setup, Logan Paul can just challenge popular boxers milking money on every fight.

If it's a professional match, even at Tyson's age, there is no way he will allow Logan Paul to win. But since it's an exhibition match as I mentioned, everything is just for a show. I also wonder if that fight will really happen so let's just wait for next year.

That's what I'm thinking of him too. He's got a lively career in boxing and everybody knows about that. But we'll see if he gets on the money that's offered on this match and if there's relation to the deal that he should play fair or just let the other guy win.
Really depends on the setup that they do but we're all counting that Tyson won't be that guy that Logan has fought before and just allowed to win as if it's a real match.

Money might talk well for Tyson,

I mean, if he can take the money and receive more exhibition offers like this, he may follow the script perfectly.

going with the flow will bring more money to his pocket, if he can follow the instructions well, maybe yes or

maybe there's something in this fight that will entertain all the viewers.. Cool

Not saying that a setup for a draw will happen, but we never know what's the real plan behind.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 19, 2021, 06:21:41 PM

these Paul brothers will be arrogant to challenge high profile boxers and be arrogant of what they have achieved, even if it is only exhibition matches.

I doubt Tyson will put dirt on his career profile by being defeated with the likes of Logan Paul. Since it's an exhibition match, the possible output of the fight might be, there will be no winners in that match. With that setup, Logan Paul can just challenge popular boxers milking money on every fight.

If it's a professional match, even at Tyson's age, there is no way he will allow Logan Paul to win. But since it's an exhibition match as I mentioned, everything is just for a show. I also wonder if that fight will really happen so let's just wait for next year.

That's what I'm thinking of him too. He's got a lively career in boxing and everybody knows about that. But we'll see if he gets on the money that's offered on this match and if there's relation to the deal that he should play fair or just let the other guy win.
Really depends on the setup that they do but we're all counting that Tyson won't be that guy that Logan has fought before and just allowed to win as if it's a real match.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 19, 2021, 05:21:06 PM

I don't think it will ruin Paul's career because he has not won a fight yet, as long as he survives and is able to fight again for his next fight, he is still good to go in making money. The Funny part is, Jake Paul keeps winning while Logan Paul Keeps losing, but they both make good money. Grin

Jake Paul got a lucky punch in on his fight, a faster fighter would have burnt him for swinging all in with no defense but he landed the blow first so he gets the win. Logan cant lose on this fight, any outcome at all is an increase in kudos for him just having this in his history forever more is a golden handshake to all future fights. For that reason alone the fight might allow a loss on his part just to keep the idea its fixed at bay and punters paying for this and similar fights, it is fixed but a loss to such a historically great opponent is nothing to lament tbh

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 19, 2021, 06:43:59 PM

Tyson in his last fight show tenacity and aggressiveness, if he can show that kind of aggressiveness, Paul is in big trouble, but we must consider that Tyson is already matured and is not the Tyson we've known, his last opponent Roy Jones is very good in defense, if Jake Paul lacks that kind of defense, he is in big trouble, I hope Tyson will not get hurt in this fight.

That last fight is because that's the first time he enters the ring after a long long long rest. He misses the action that's why he is aggressive. After that, Tyson thinks that it's easy money for just seeing him inside the ring by the people so he accepts this exhibition match. I'm sure that aggressive on his first exhibition match will not be repeated as he knows Logan Paul is just a midget. He might actually just play more defense until the end.

Exhibition matches can't be a serious match. Both parties surely talk over about it.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 19, 2021, 06:21:41 PM

these Paul brothers will be arrogant to challenge high profile boxers and be arrogant of what they have achieved, even if it is only exhibition matches.

I doubt Tyson will put dirt on his career profile by being defeated with the likes of Logan Paul. Since it's an exhibition match, the possible output of the fight might be, there will be no winners in that match. With that setup, Logan Paul can just challenge popular boxers milking money on every fight.

If it's a professional match, even at Tyson's age, there is no way he will allow Logan Paul to win. But since it's an exhibition match as I mentioned, everything is just for a show. I also wonder if that fight will really happen so let's just wait for next year.

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Quote from: livingfree on December 19, 2021, 05:42:15 PM

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Most fans are waiting to whatever surprise Tyson will bring to add more entertainment to this fight. Roll Eyes

Yes.

It's much waiting for that part of Tyson and not really on Logan if he's going to beat him or not. What we're waiting for is what Tyson would do on his end.

There could be a big blow that will make Logan down or whatever it is that would surprise everyone and at the same time become entertained.

Tyson in his last fight show tenacity and aggressiveness, if he can show that kind of aggressiveness, Paul is in big trouble, but we must consider that Tyson is already matured and is not the Tyson we've known, his last opponent Roy Jones is very good in defense, if Jake Paul lacks that kind of defense, he is in big trouble, I hope Tyson will not get hurt in this fight.

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Compare it to recent fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Richard Commey. I hope that Tyson will not go the same as Mayweather and show us a good fight.

Tyson might have the same way as how Mayweather fought on the last exhibition match.

Yep, I've watched previous Tyson's exhibition match with Roy Jones Jr. it's totally different when he fight in real match, he looks more calm and not trying to hurt Jones. This mean, Tyson could do same with Paul... he will just play more defensive, full distance or hugging each other Tongue

I smell Paul will win easily from their behind agreement, the another thing we need an official statement of this fight when will happen.

That's not gonna happen, I mean Paul having a win here, no way, Tyson will not make it happen as Paul is a loser. A win by Tyson would not make the status of Logan changed as per his record, his W is still "0" - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/896698

Also, Roy Jones Jr. is a good boxer too, so I don't think Tyson trying his best not to hurt him.

But we don't know their agreements here, and how much money is on the line. But I hope Tyson will beat Logan here. Because if Logan will win and that recently, Jake Paul won over Woodley, these Paul brothers will be arrogant to challenge high profile boxers and be arrogant of what they have achieved, even if it is only exhibition matches. Tyson should teach this Logan a lesson real quick. Don't wait for the match to go the distance. If he can finish it one round, he should.

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