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Quote from: Fredomago on December 27, 2021, 10:08:49 AM

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Quote from: romero121 on December 26, 2021, 11:21:04 AM

Nowadays this kind of exhibition matches were gaining more popularity and the organizers were pushing these kind of matches than regular matches. By the time more senior boxers were also showing interest on these fights. Recently Mayweather have shown interest on playing against one of the paul brothers. These fights can turn on any side. Some has mentioned about no-winner decision on these special fights, which will surely create controversy. So, there is very less chance for the same.

Actually not only those senior boxers who have caught their attention to join in this kind of exhibition bouts because even basketball players are being reported to join in this kind of game like Deron Williams. But it seems that Paul's brothers are dominating this boxing category which I don't know the exact reason why but in the case of the betting aspect for bettors I don't think it would be fair enough if the fight's result can be turned on any side. I don't think it would be worth for betting aspect but yeah due to the gaining popularity of this game, some bettors are also tried and risk to bet on this type of game.

Paul brothers are sucking more money with this kind of exhibition, their promoters are good in finding matches that will attract viewers and fans attentions, it's the hypes from social media that helps these promotions to reach more people, expect gamblers and those old fans to bring their money to this fight.

They are still hoping to see some bloods from these two fighters. Some bets to add some fun while others are doing it for the sake
of gambling.. Roll Eyes

We can't blame them, they see the opportunity to make easy money in exhibition fights, they are just grabbing that opportunity. In the end, it still depends on the fans, if we stop supporting their fight, then they have no option but to stop this exhibition fights.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 27, 2021, 09:49:19 AM

Quote from: romero121 on December 26, 2021, 11:21:04 AM

Nowadays this kind of exhibition matches were gaining more popularity and the organizers were pushing these kind of matches than regular matches. By the time more senior boxers were also showing interest on these fights. Recently Mayweather have shown interest on playing against one of the paul brothers. These fights can turn on any side. Some has mentioned about no-winner decision on these special fights, which will surely create controversy. So, there is very less chance for the same.

Actually not only those senior boxers who have caught their attention to join in this kind of exhibition bouts because even basketball players are being reported to join in this kind of game like Deron Williams. But it seems that Paul's brothers are dominating this boxing category which I don't know the exact reason why but in the case of the betting aspect for bettors I don't think it would be fair enough if the fight's result can be turned on any side. I don't think it would be worth for betting aspect but yeah due to the gaining popularity of this game, some bettors are also tried and risk to bet on this type of game.

Paul brothers are sucking more money with this kind of exhibition, their promoters are good in finding matches that will attract viewers and fans attentions, it's the hypes from social media that helps these promotions to reach more people, expect gamblers and those old fans to bring their money to this fight.

They are still hoping to see some bloods from these two fighters. Some bets to add some fun while others are doing it for the sake
of gambling.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 26, 2021, 01:24:24 AM

And that is what they call this boxing match, exhibitions, because they can totally rigged the results. But at the end of the day, still up to the fans whether they are going to support this kind of fights or not because it's not that exciting to watch to be honest. Mike Tyson's previous fight with Roy Jones was obviously rigged as well so I'm expecting the same here.

It was just a showcase fight between two boxing veterans who were very respectful to each other. Many clinches, special large gloves, so that everything would be without unnecessary damage to boxers. It was more of a show than a fight, but this fight was watched by millions, therefore, such battles will continue to occur. This fight with Logan is not entirely appropriate, because there is a very large age difference, and this is no longer good. In any case, it will most likely be the same show.

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Quote from: romero121 on December 26, 2021, 11:21:04 AM

Nowadays this kind of exhibition matches were gaining more popularity and the organizers were pushing these kind of matches than regular matches. By the time more senior boxers were also showing interest on these fights. Recently Mayweather have shown interest on playing against one of the paul brothers. These fights can turn on any side. Some has mentioned about no-winner decision on these special fights, which will surely create controversy. So, there is very less chance for the same.

Actually not only those senior boxers who have caught their attention to join in this kind of exhibition bouts because even basketball players are being reported to join in this kind of game like Deron Williams. But it seems that Paul's brothers are dominating this boxing category which I don't know the exact reason why but in the case of the betting aspect for bettors I don't think it would be fair enough if the fight's result can be turned on any side. I don't think it would be worth for betting aspect but yeah due to the gaining popularity of this game, some bettors are also tried and risk to bet on this type of game.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 26, 2021, 10:21:05 AM

I wonder what the result of the fight should be in order for it to influence the future of one of the boxers? Logan is noname in boxing and no matter how he is beaten his reputation will not suffer, on the contrary, in the next fight, many will gladly watch again how he will be punished for loud words. As for Tyson, the situation is almost the same here - whatever happens, everything can be attributed to age, and a new fight can be held with another elderly legendary boxer.

Nowadays this kind of exhibition matches were gaining more popularity and the organizers were pushing these kind of matches than regular matches. By the time more senior boxers were also showing interest on these fights. Recently Mayweather have shown interest on playing against one of the paul brothers. These fights can turn on any side. Some has mentioned about no-winner decision on these special fights, which will surely create controversy. So, there is very less chance for the same.

If these fights do not give real emotions and show (as you know, many boxing lovers, even when they watch professional boxing, they only expect a knockout) will quickly lose popularity. People are willing to pay for drama and I see no reason why these wealthy individuals (boxers and bloggers) cannot provide them with it for such fees.

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That was already expected. It seems impossible to think that there's no plan agreement on the fight. Mike Tyson will not throw away his big reputation therefore, I believe the agreement will benefit him. As others said, the exhibition match between him and Logan Paul might end up in a no-winner decision to save both boxers' asses on their future match.

The fight will still gather good profit because it's Mike Tyson who will fight. Millenials didn't see Mike Tyson fighting before and the exhibition match is a good chance to see him fighting again.

I wonder what the result of the fight should be in order for it to influence the future of one of the boxers? Logan is noname in boxing and no matter how he is beaten his reputation will not suffer, on the contrary, in the next fight, many will gladly watch again how he will be punished for loud words. As for Tyson, the situation is almost the same here - whatever happens, everything can be attributed to age, and a new fight can be held with another elderly legendary boxer.

Nowadays this kind of exhibition matches were gaining more popularity and the organizers were pushing these kind of matches than regular matches. By the time more senior boxers were also showing interest on these fights. Recently Mayweather have shown interest on playing against one of the paul brothers. These fights can turn on any side. Some has mentioned about no-winner decision on these special fights, which will surely create controversy. So, there is very less chance for the same.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 25, 2021, 06:21:58 PM

That was already expected. It seems impossible to think that there's no plan agreement on the fight. Mike Tyson will not throw away his big reputation therefore, I believe the agreement will benefit him. As others said, the exhibition match between him and Logan Paul might end up in a no-winner decision to save both boxers' asses on their future match.

The fight will still gather good profit because it's Mike Tyson who will fight. Millenials didn't see Mike Tyson fighting before and the exhibition match is a good chance to see him fighting again.

I wonder what the result of the fight should be in order for it to influence the future of one of the boxers? Logan is noname in boxing and no matter how he is beaten his reputation will not suffer, on the contrary, in the next fight, many will gladly watch again how he will be punished for loud words. As for Tyson, the situation is almost the same here - whatever happens, everything can be attributed to age, and a new fight can be held with another elderly legendary boxer.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 24, 2021, 04:11:31 PM

From what we can read since this is just an exhibition fight, they can put any clause in a contract, besides Mike is old, he might not be able to absorb power punches from a young boxer.

That was already expected. It seems impossible to think that there's no plan agreement on the fight. Mike Tyson will not throw away his big reputation therefore, I believe the agreement will benefit him. As others said, the exhibition match between him and Logan Paul might end up in a no-winner decision to save both boxers' asses on their future match.

The fight will still gather good profit because it's Mike Tyson who will fight. Millenials didn't see Mike Tyson fighting before and the exhibition match is a good chance to see him fighting again.

Then that would still be an agreement, honestly, I find it boring when no winner is announce, I get that they want to protect the future of a certain boxer but that would not make this kind of fight entertaining as we already know what to expect if both popular fighters go against each other.

And that is what they call this boxing match, exhibitions, because they can totally rigged the results. But at the end of the day, still up to the fans whether they are going to support this kind of fights or not because it's not that exciting to watch to be honest. Mike Tyson's previous fight with Roy Jones was obviously rigged as well so I'm expecting the same here.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 25, 2021, 06:21:58 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on December 24, 2021, 04:11:31 PM

From what we can read since this is just an exhibition fight, they can put any clause in a contract, besides Mike is old, he might not be able to absorb power punches from a young boxer.

That was already expected. It seems impossible to think that there's no plan agreement on the fight. Mike Tyson will not throw away his big reputation therefore, I believe the agreement will benefit him. As others said, the exhibition match between him and Logan Paul might end up in a no-winner decision to save both boxers' asses on their future match.

The fight will still gather good profit because it's Mike Tyson who will fight. Millenials didn't see Mike Tyson fighting before and the exhibition match is a good chance to see him fighting again.

Then that would still be an agreement, honestly, I find it boring when no winner is announce, I get that they want to protect the future of a certain boxer but that would not make this kind of fight entertaining as we already know what to expect if both popular fighters go against each other.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 24, 2021, 04:11:31 PM

From what we can read since this is just an exhibition fight, they can put any clause in a contract, besides Mike is old, he might not be able to absorb power punches from a young boxer.

That was already expected. It seems impossible to think that there's no plan agreement on the fight. Mike Tyson will not throw away his big reputation therefore, I believe the agreement will benefit him. As others said, the exhibition match between him and Logan Paul might end up in a no-winner decision to save both boxers' asses on their future match.

The fight will still gather good profit because it's Mike Tyson who will fight. Millenials didn't see Mike Tyson fighting before and the exhibition match is a good chance to see him fighting again.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 24, 2021, 03:47:25 PM

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That's what I read as well, so if there's no KO in this fight, then the result would be a draw. Thing is, Logan Paul IIRC, he was not been KO in his boxing career, while Mike Tyson is very popular because he can KO a boxer back in the day, but this time, I'm not sure if he still got it.

With the way Mike Tyson is hitting the pads, he still have the knockout power and one opening is more than enough to land a knockout punch and Logan Paul is not known to be a technical master, nor he has fought anyone legit. Mike has seen it all and done it all and won the belt and he knows his move and he is not against a technical wizard and i am sure Logan Paul will expose himself to give Mike Tyson the opportunity to land the punch Cheesy

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Quote from: STT on December 25, 2021, 11:02:52 AM

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This begs the question – should there be a clause in Paul’s contract that would bar him from knocking out Mike Tyson and vice versa? Absolutely.

You cant then ever allow people to view such a contract, that would be massively destructive to the illusion which is this fight and this whole expanding genre of fighting more acting I assume but still people pay so there it is. I find it quite unlikely they would do such a thing, agreements are verbal harder to sue over but its in nobodies favor to break faith. Logan is not that likely to be much of a threat even though Tyson is old his training must be on the level of muscle memory by that extensive career he can dodge most shots surely.

As a boxer then your body would really get used to those movements and endurance even though performance do really deteriorates but still it wont really be enough on taking him down by likes of Logan.Im not really underestimating this young man but it wouldnt really be enough on taking down a Legend boxer despite of age gap.On stamina alone then i could tell that they would
really still differn.About those contracts the no one is really allowed on seeing of it which is understandable and is dumb for someone to believe that it could be possible. lol

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This begs the question – should there be a clause in Paul’s contract that would bar him from knocking out Mike Tyson and vice versa? Absolutely.

You cant then ever allow people to view such a contract, that would be massively destructive to the illusion which is this fight and this whole expanding genre of fighting is more akin to acting and/or sparring but still people pay so there it is. I find it quite unlikely they would do such a thing, agreements are verbal harder to sue over but its in nobodies favor to break faith. Logan is not that likely to be much of a threat even though Tyson is old his training must be on the level of muscle memory by that extensive career he can dodge most shots surely.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 24, 2021, 04:11:31 PM

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Should Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson be a ‘no knockout’ fight?
Logan Paul would have zero to very less chances of lasting against ‘Iron’ Mike back when he was champion; however, ‘The Maverick’ is young, can move more, and can possibly even land bigger shots now that he is fighting a much older Tyson.

On the other hand, Mike Tyson is highly unpredictable. To date, he has the mindset of a champion, and seeing him return to his old fighting style would not be the most unexpected thing ever.

This begs the question – should there be a clause in Paul’s contract that would bar him from knocking out Mike Tyson and vice versa? Absolutely.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-logan-paul-needs-no-knockout-clause-against-mike-tyson/

From what we can read since this is just an exhibition fight, they can put any clause in a contract, besides Mike is old, he might not be able to absorb power punches from a young boxer.

I see no logic in including such a clause in the contract. The audience wants to see a serious fight, not dancing, and is ready to pay for that. It would be epic if someone knocked out someone in this fight and after that we would see a rematch (possibly with the opposite result). If we see dancing and hugging, then there will be no chance of a rematch.

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No man, can't agree with you at all. Problem with Mayweather is that he had knew that this will be promo match so he didn't fight with his full potential. Just because of money. And man, it was really bad.
Again, Tyson needs cool and bright come back to boxing ring, so he will fight better.

The match wasn't official so I get why Mayweather didn't take it seriously, had to release just enough to be able to fight and not to be an embarrassment in that exhibition match, Tyson would probably do the same and it won't be any different to us casual viewers because Tyson at half a strength is still a force to be reckoned with.

Mike Tyson has already His part in the long years and this is just an exhibition fight that needs no High skills and capacity because no matter what is the outcome they will get what amount they have been promised so meaning this is a Money game and they will just add some flavor to make watchers and bettors enjoy the fight.
but im am still looking for Mike to win this fight if he will surely go up in the ring.

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I'm also more inclined to think that we won't see any furious boxing, most likely it will be a show where the winner will be decided by decision of judges and in all likelihood it will be Mike Tyson.

From what i understand, the winner can be decided only if the opponent is knocked out and there is no winner if the fight goes to the decision.

That's what I read as well, so if there's no KO in this fight, then the result would be a draw. Thing is, Logan Paul IIRC, he was not been KO in his boxing career, while Mike Tyson is very popular because he can KO a boxer back in the day, but this time, I'm not sure if he still got it.

So it's going near to everyone's speculation on how the match would be. If it's going to be a draw fight, both of them just have to prolong the match until it ends with a decision.
But it is Mike Tyson, we'll see if he's going to agree with that type of match that there's no KO. Many are looking into that ending, for Mike's KO.

If the price is right, maybe Mike will agree, but if the fans will push him, we never know what he will reply Grin

It's interesting to see since the fight against Roy Jr is not that great and Mike needs to hype his name to earn more exhibition fight. Paul, on the other hand, wants more media hypes for his social influencer job Grin

We never know if the chance of seeing them in real action is really going to happen, or they will just stick with what the promoters plan. Cool

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Quote from: johhnyUA on December 24, 2021, 04:44:06 PM

No man, can't agree with you at all. Problem with Mayweather is that he had knew that this will be promo match so he didn't fight with his full potential. Just because of money. And man, it was really bad.
Again, Tyson needs cool and bright come back to boxing ring, so he will fight better.

The match wasn't official so I get why Mayweather didn't take it seriously, had to release just enough to be able to fight and not to be an embarrassment in that exhibition match, Tyson would probably do the same and it won't be any different to us casual viewers because Tyson at half a strength is still a force to be reckoned with.

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Did you guys saw Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley second fight? Here is the the link to those who missed that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzYLkxjdag

Many people still consider this a controversy and think it has been set up in such a way and some people say that the hand code of the jack is too conspicuous in this regard

I don't trust that theory. I think Jake just squeezed the inside foam for better holding. Anyway knockout is a knockout. People will always make conspiracy theories around it.

On the YouTube I saw people saying that that Jake trains with professionals and they note that he improves a lot and show worthy competition in sparing. Since Logan is more talented than Jake, he could even be in a better shape. Just my two cents, it wont be an easy fight for Mike.

Because basically we can't please every audience there and there will always be speculation like this when seeing Jack in a match, even if he loses or wins there will definitely be a bad impact from some people.
On the other hand his training is quite good but still he will be labeled as a youtuber not a boxer
talking about Logan and Mike this also seems to be the same as what happened to Jake at this time.
I think Logan is actually quite able to play the rhythm because apart from his age and stamina, I also think he is above the mike.
But it depends on how he decides the strategy later because his strategy is very important right now

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I'm also more inclined to think that we won't see any furious boxing, most likely it will be a show where the winner will be decided by decision of judges and in all likelihood it will be Mike Tyson.

From what i understand, the winner can be decided only if the opponent is knocked out and there is no winner if the fight goes to the decision.

That's what I read as well, so if there's no KO in this fight, then the result would be a draw. Thing is, Logan Paul IIRC, he was not been KO in his boxing career, while Mike Tyson is very popular because he can KO a boxer back in the day, but this time, I'm not sure if he still got it.

So it's going near to everyone's speculation on how the match would be. If it's going to be a draw fight, both of them just have to prolong the match until it ends with a decision.
But it is Mike Tyson, we'll see if he's going to agree with that type of match that there's no KO. Many are looking into that ending, for Mike's KO.

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Compare it to recent fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Richard Commey. I hope that Tyson will not go the same as Mayweather and show us a good fight.

Tyson might have the same way as how Mayweather fought on the last exhibition match. He won't be serious on that match as he thinks as Paul is a young boxer and there's sure money already waiting for his pocket and they just need to show that they are fighting seriously. There are also lots of restrictions in exhibition matches as organizers are taking care of those who will participate in their future exhibition match plans.

No man, can't agree with you at all. Problem with Mayweather is that he had knew that this will be promo match so he didn't fight with his full potential. Just because of money. And man, it was really bad.
Again, Tyson needs cool and bright come back to boxing ring, so he will fight better.

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