[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 34.

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Quote from: SmokerFace on December 06, 2021, 04:58:44 PM

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Was a knockout artist 19 years ago. We do not know if he could box on a same level with professionals and still knockout them. In the past he could knockout everyone, right now he definitely could easily knockout a regular person.

He is not the same 19 years ago but his opponent now is not a professional boxer, or a boxer with a lot of boxing experience, so the advantage is still on him and I'll gladly put my bet on Mike Tyson to win here. I don't trust whatever strategy Logan Paul will use as he has not won a single fight in boxing.

I don't know if Tyson still do his routine the same as before but if not then there's a chance for Logan Paul to defeat him knowing that he is young and well trained for his upcoming show matches and even though this is only exhibition fight for sure we will have fun watching them knowing that tyson is back on the ring and fighting a young man who want to earn fame on this fight. I don't underestimate Paul for his past matches but let see how this fight end up.

I think the experience matters more than anything in this fight,

Whoever has the experience will win but there had been fights in the past where the experienced player lost.a
In any case i think tyson would've won easily.

Unfortunately, at a certain age, experience is no longer enough. After so many years in professional boxing (actually in any professional sport), the body is just too tired. In my opinion, this is Tyson's greatest weakness at this point.

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Quote from: SmokerFace on December 06, 2021, 04:58:44 PM

Quote from: ultrloa on November 23, 2021, 10:10:01 AM

Quote from: Questat on November 23, 2021, 08:44:45 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:35 AM

Was a knockout artist 19 years ago. We do not know if he could box on a same level with professionals and still knockout them. In the past he could knockout everyone, right now he definitely could easily knockout a regular person.

He is not the same 19 years ago but his opponent now is not a professional boxer, or a boxer with a lot of boxing experience, so the advantage is still on him and I'll gladly put my bet on Mike Tyson to win here. I don't trust whatever strategy Logan Paul will use as he has not won a single fight in boxing.

I don't know if Tyson still do his routine the same as before but if not then there's a chance for Logan Paul to defeat him knowing that he is young and well trained for his upcoming show matches and even though this is only exhibition fight for sure we will have fun watching them knowing that tyson is back on the ring and fighting a young man who want to earn fame on this fight. I don't underestimate Paul for his past matches but let see how this fight end up.

I think the experience matters more than anything in this fight,

Whoever has the experience will win but there had been fights in the past where the experienced player lost.a
In any case i think tyson would've won easily.

If it's true that if no knockout the fight will be a draw, then most likely we will see Tyson declared as a winner if he cannot knockout Logan Paul. I'm not sure what to expect here because this is just an exhibition fights, but clearly with Tyson's experience, he would beat Logan Paul without a question, but will he KO him?

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Quote from: ultrloa on November 23, 2021, 10:10:01 AM

Quote from: Questat on November 23, 2021, 08:44:45 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:35 AM

Was a knockout artist 19 years ago. We do not know if he could box on a same level with professionals and still knockout them. In the past he could knockout everyone, right now he definitely could easily knockout a regular person.

He is not the same 19 years ago but his opponent now is not a professional boxer, or a boxer with a lot of boxing experience, so the advantage is still on him and I'll gladly put my bet on Mike Tyson to win here. I don't trust whatever strategy Logan Paul will use as he has not won a single fight in boxing.

I don't know if Tyson still do his routine the same as before but if not then there's a chance for Logan Paul to defeat him knowing that he is young and well trained for his upcoming show matches and even though this is only exhibition fight for sure we will have fun watching them knowing that tyson is back on the ring and fighting a young man who want to earn fame on this fight. I don't underestimate Paul for his past matches but let see how this fight end up.

I think the experience matters more than anything in this fight,

Whoever has the experience will win but there had been fights in the past where the experienced player lost.a
In any case i think tyson would've won easily.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on December 06, 2021, 04:31:36 PM

Moving back to this fight, the chance is always there for Paul and bookies will survey it before we will see the actual offer.

I think the betting odds are already available in some fiat bookies, just verify it if you have an account.
As this article below states, Mike Tyson is a heavy favorite to win now.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/logan-paul-vs-mike-tyson-odds-betting-prediction

Fighter    Odds
Logan Paul   +200
Mike Tyson   -300
Odds as of November 1 at Bovada ( you can check and verifiy)

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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 06, 2021, 07:01:38 AM

Nevertheless, Logan Paul performed very well in a duel with Floyd Mayweather. It was a surprise for me ...

On what part? If Mayweather is serious, he can finish the fight quickly. Since that's a stage one, I don't see how Logan Paul performed very well in that match. The same against Mike Tyson, I don't see any interesting actions in that match.

The only thing that will entertain people and willing to spend money on tickets is because it's Mike Tyson. Die-hard fans want to see the legend in the ring once again even for an exhibition match.

There's some clips where Floyd is lifting Logan to stand still, funny but if Floyd was serious back then it will take 1 round to complete.

Mayweather is more younger and very capable to knock Paul down during that time. Still at his prime even he retired from this venue

of sport. He just collect money from those who waned to see some entertainment.

Moving back to this fight, the chance is always there for Paul and bookies will survey it before we will see the actual offer.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 06, 2021, 07:01:38 AM

Nevertheless, Logan Paul performed very well in a duel with Floyd Mayweather. It was a surprise for me ...

On what part? If Mayweather is serious, he can finish the fight quickly. Since that's a stage one, I don't see how Logan Paul performed very well in that match. The same against Mike Tyson, I don't see any interesting actions in that match.

The only thing that will entertain people and willing to spend money on tickets is because it's Mike Tyson. Die-hard fans want to see the legend in the ring once again even for an exhibition match.

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So logically none of the promoters will allow that to happen, the rules are clear before the bout, no winners if it goes to the decision, winner can only be determined if there is a knockout and that is the standard followed in all the exhibition fights.

That makes sense .... Therefore in Mike Tyson really has an edge on this fight because he has the knockout power and if Tyson won't be able to KO Logan Paul because he could use a very effective strategy like making the old man tired, then the end would be boring as it will only become a draw. Sad

I do not think Mike is going to want to KO Logan Paul, not because the fight is fixed or anything but just because they may think this is bad for the exhibition fight, the market and demand they are creating for these kind of fights.

Even if some people want to see Mike delivering a KO to Logan a great deal of the fans of Logan probably do not want it, and they will prefer to see Logan being able to duke it with Tyson which is one of the best we have seen above the ring.

The more I read about exhibition fights, the more I go towards the situation you described. Even if the result is not fixed, it is supposed to be a WWF-like show that will be watched by entire families with children. I don't think it will be a bloody fight, but just a show.

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So logically none of the promoters will allow that to happen, the rules are clear before the bout, no winners if it goes to the decision, winner can only be determined if there is a knockout and that is the standard followed in all the exhibition fights.

That makes sense .... Therefore in Mike Tyson really has an edge on this fight because he has the knockout power and if Tyson won't be able to KO Logan Paul because he could use a very effective strategy like making the old man tired, then the end would be boring as it will only become a draw. Sad

I do not think Mike is going to want to KO Logan Paul, not because the fight is fixed or anything but just because they may think this is bad for the exhibition fight, the market and demand they are creating for these kind of fights.

Even if some people want to see Mike delivering a KO to Logan a great deal of the fans of Logan probably do not want it, and they will prefer to see Logan being able to duke it with Tyson which is one of the best we have seen above the ring.

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Agree with that, he retires in boxing because he is already losing his fights. He lose his last two fights in 2004 and 2005, and he was still younger at that time, so would he expect at his age now? That's a bad idea going out of retirement, he will never win against the heavyweights today.

That's okay for him. He can do whatever he wanted at his age now. Win or lose, there's nothing to lose for him right now. He's just enjoying things and grabbing opportunities that are knocking him. So even it goes with this match, it doesn't really matter if he's just trying to make money for his age. I think it's no longer part of his reputation whether he wins or not in this match. What's important to him at this point is how much is going to be offered to him.

You can tell his passion for the sport, at his age, he is still capable of fighting and to see him the favorite to win this fight, that tells a lot that even an old man can still win against a young and active boxer. Mike Tyson is strong but in this fight, we will see if he still has the power to KO an opponent, hopefully they'll allow that to happen this fight.

Interesting to wait, if the organizer will allow that and Logan Paul unable to avoid those heavy punches from Mike, it will be an added fun to all those viewers that will pay for their tickets and PPV. Most of those fans of Mike want to see him as brutal as how he was before. If that will show up from this upcoming he may get more exhibition offers.

Just not sure if the organizer will consider that, as they might risk the health of both fighters.

Mike is old if also Logan got that luck hitting solid punches, not sure if that will be good for Mike at his age now. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 06, 2021, 07:01:38 AM

Ligan Paul is not a boxer. He is a blogger. At the same time, he is indeed a very successful and wealthy blogger. He makes videos in which he offends celebrities (singers, actors, etc.). Nevertheless, Logan Paul performed very well in a duel with Floyd Mayweather. It was a surprise for me ...

he is not a boxer but he knows how to box, the fight against Floyd was actually boring, that's my personal opinion only.. maybe some fans enjoy the fight but I find it boring. No winner since no one get KO in the fight, but if Floyd did his best, we would have seen a KO.

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 06, 2021, 07:01:38 AM

Mike Tyson is already old. He is 55 years old. Nevertheless, this is a legendary athlete. Mike no longer has his former strength and agility.

However, he has a lot of experience. He can use various boxing pieces against Logan.

I think the fight will be very interesting.

It will only be interesting if we will see Tyson beating Logan's ass. He is not a boxer while he fight with a legend, shame on this exhibition match if Mike Tyson would not win.

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Ligan Paul is not a boxer. He is a blogger. At the same time, he is indeed a very successful and wealthy blogger. He makes videos in which he offends celebrities (singers, actors, etc.). Nevertheless, Logan Paul performed very well in a duel with Floyd Mayweather. It was a surprise for me ...

Mike Tyson is already old. He is 55 years old. Nevertheless, this is a legendary athlete. Mike no longer has his former strength and agility.

However, he has a lot of experience. He can use various boxing pieces against Logan.

I think the fight will be very interesting.

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Agree with that, he retires in boxing because he is already losing his fights. He lose his last two fights in 2004 and 2005, and he was still younger at that time, so would he expect at his age now? That's a bad idea going out of retirement, he will never win against the heavyweights today.

That's okay for him. He can do whatever he wanted at his age now. Win or lose, there's nothing to lose for him right now. He's just enjoying things and grabbing opportunities that are knocking him. So even it goes with this match, it doesn't really matter if he's just trying to make money for his age. I think it's no longer part of his reputation whether he wins or not in this match. What's important to him at this point is how much is going to be offered to him.

You can tell his passion for the sport, at his age, he is still capable of fighting and to see him the favorite to win this fight, that tells a lot that even an old man can still win against a young and active boxer. Mike Tyson is strong but in this fight, we will see if he still has the power to KO an opponent, hopefully they'll allow that to happen this fight.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 05, 2021, 04:23:09 PM

Agree with that, he retires in boxing because he is already losing his fights. He lose his last two fights in 2004 and 2005, and he was still younger at that time, so would he expect at his age now? That's a bad idea going out of retirement, he will never win against the heavyweights today.

That's okay for him. He can do whatever he wanted at his age now. Win or lose, there's nothing to lose for him right now. He's just enjoying things and grabbing opportunities that are knocking him. So even it goes with this match, it doesn't really matter if he's just trying to make money for his age. I think it's no longer part of his reputation whether he wins or not in this match. What's important to him at this point is how much is going to be offered to him.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 05, 2021, 04:40:34 PM

Correct if I am wrong, I have never seen someone at his age making the decision to fight professionally. I seem not to understand what's happening to all the retired boxers who are coming back to the ring these days.

Money is there even for superficial fighting, who would turn down good money. George Foreman is the oldest boxer to win a world championship at 45, he then fought his last fight at 48 which is an amazing age to still be at the top. He only lost on points, it was very close many rating him as the winner and had he won he would once again been up for the world championship belt. However at 48 it was his last fight, obviously he had a good run and regained his finances with many endorsement deals and without the spending problem Tyson has. Foreman had fights arranged but never went to the ring upto the age of 55, for health reasons I think these were avoided; years on I think the money improved for these 'specials' .

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I've seen some exhibition fights this year and I see some knockout wins by the winners, so it's just right to expect a knockout as they don't have a judge to score the fight, the only rule is KO your opponent and you'll win. I saw a former NBA player and a former UFC fighter get KO.

As far as I know, each show fight has its own terms and conditions, which are drawn up before the fight and have legal force.

Remember Mike Tyson's fight with Ray Jones Jr. At first the promoters announced that it was impossible to knock out the opponent in this fight, but later they changed their decision due to the dissatisfaction of boxing fans. The knockout never happened in that fight. None of us can know what verbal agreements exist behind the curtain.

But there were already rumors that there were some kind of agreements between Tyson and Paul.

Rumors only, therefore we cannot say that it's really happening inside, we are just speculating and we could be right or wrong. Whatever their agreement, they can do that as it's not against the law, fans will just watch the fight and expect a fight will be entertaining, but a knockout result is the most entertaining outcome of any fight.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 05, 2021, 02:25:47 PM

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He is doing an exhibition fight because he cannot be in a professional fight anymore, he already retired a long time ago but he is still actively maintaining his body and his stamina that's why even at his age, he can still fight against a younger fighter.

Mike Tyson can literally fight for a world title next if any state athletic body decides they can give out the license and there are literally other factors to get a license including medical condition and if it passes unanimously there is no restrictions and they will follow the standard Queensberry Rules.

The health of the fighter is only determined while giving out a license, so if he passes every medical test conducted by the athletic body he will get a professional boxing license once again.

Due to the passion, Mike Tyson had for boxing he can decide to fight for the world title but which state athletic body will decide to give him the license? Who does that?
Correct if I am wrong, I have never seen someone at his age making the decision to fight professionally. I seem not to understand what's happening to all the retired boxers who are coming back to the ring these days.

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He is doing an exhibition fight because he cannot be in a professional fight anymore, he already retired a long time ago but he is still actively maintaining his body and his stamina that's why even at his age, he can still fight against a younger fighter.

Mike Tyson can literally fight for a world title next if any state athletic body decides they can give out the license and there are literally other factors to get a license including medical condition and if it passes unanimously there is no restrictions and they will follow the standard Queensberry Rules.

The health of the fighter is only determined while giving out a license, so if he passes every medical test conducted by the athletic body he will get a professional boxing license once again.

But i dont see that he would be claiming or trying to get some license again yet he know that he's old and wont really be risking up too much in regards to his health and condition and to think that he's already past on his prime. What else what he's trying to prove on?

He had already gained that Legendary boxer title and been known into those people who have known him and that should be enough.

If he would come back on boxing world then it would be on the form of exhibition fights.

Agree with that, he retires in boxing because he is already losing his fights. He lose his last two fights in 2004 and 2005, and he was still younger at that time, so would he expect at his age now? That's a bad idea going out of retirement, he will never win against the heavyweights today.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 05, 2021, 09:33:38 AM

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He is doing an exhibition fight because he cannot be in a professional fight anymore, he already retired a long time ago but he is still actively maintaining his body and his stamina that's why even at his age, he can still fight against a younger fighter.

Mike Tyson can literally fight for a world title next if any state athletic body decides they can give out the license and there are literally other factors to get a license including medical condition and if it passes unanimously there is no restrictions and they will follow the standard Queensberry Rules.

The health of the fighter is only determined while giving out a license, so if he passes every medical test conducted by the athletic body he will get a professional boxing license once again.

But i dont see that he would be claiming or trying to get some license again yet he know that he's old and wont really be risking up too much in regards to his health and condition and to think that he's already past on his prime. What else what he's trying to prove on?

He had already gained that Legendary boxer title and been known into those people who have known him and that should be enough.

If he would come back on boxing world then it would be on the form of exhibition fights.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 05, 2021, 09:33:38 AM

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He is doing an exhibition fight because he cannot be in a professional fight anymore, he already retired a long time ago but he is still actively maintaining his body and his stamina that's why even at his age, he can still fight against a younger fighter.

Mike Tyson can literally fight for a world title next if any state athletic body decides they can give out the license and there are literally other factors to get a license including medical condition and if it passes unanimously there is no restrictions and they will follow the standard Queensberry Rules.

The health of the fighter is only determined while giving out a license, so if he passes every medical test conducted by the athletic body he will get a professional boxing license once again.

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And what do you call a fight before which the opponents agree on its conduct and possibly the outcome of the fight? If such a situation occurs in soccer or any other sporting game, such a match is considered fixed. So I think this fight is rigged and betting on it is very risky. Besides, it wasn't Logan Paul who suggested the fight, it was Mike Tyson.

Well, how can I deny you are right here? You are right, but it is not that they would even have to agree by talking to each other or signing a special contract. They both are just aware of the fact that the longer the fight goes, the more money is to be made. A little bit like when two soccer teams are qualified for the next round and just don't try to seriously attack anymore. Is that a fixed game?

Edit: Yes, betting on this one sucks. I agree with you 100% on that!

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