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December 05, 2021, 01:07:45 PM
The aim of a real fight is find the winner based on the actions of the two boxers where as this particular fight will be predetermined almost certainly hence why we've seen the draw ending occur far more often and we cant bet on that outcome its so probable.   The real determination of the fight is to maximize revenue and I think reflect a bias towards Logan as the younger boxer and with a demographic of supporters also growing, where as Tyson already was famous across 4 different decades and is only going to be suitable as a commentator soon enough.
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December 05, 2021, 12:44:44 PM
As far as I know, each show fight has its own terms and conditions, which are drawn up before the fight and have legal force.

Remember Mike Tyson's fight with Ray Jones Jr. At first the promoters announced that it was impossible to knock out the opponent in this fight, but later they changed their decision due to the dissatisfaction of boxing fans. The knockout never happened in that fight. None of us can know what verbal agreements exist behind the curtain.

But there were already rumors that there were some kind of agreements between Tyson and Paul.
You're right.

That's what I think also about the match. For sure there's going to be some proposed rules before the match happens and it would be Logan that will propose those to Mike.

So, it's going to be likely into Mike if he agrees.
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December 05, 2021, 10:05:02 AM
I've seen some exhibition fights this year and I see some knockout wins by the winners, so it's just right to expect a knockout as they don't have a judge to score the fight, the only rule is KO your opponent and you'll win. I saw a former NBA player and a former UFC fighter get KO.

As far as I know, each show fight has its own terms and conditions, which are drawn up before the fight and have legal force.

Remember Mike Tyson's fight with Ray Jones Jr. At first the promoters announced that it was impossible to knock out the opponent in this fight, but later they changed their decision due to the dissatisfaction of boxing fans. The knockout never happened in that fight. None of us can know what verbal agreements exist behind the curtain.

But there were already rumors that there were some kind of agreements between Tyson and Paul.
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December 05, 2021, 09:33:38 AM
That is very true. Age is the curcial factor here and may be that is why they are doing the exhibition fight.
This will prove whether age decreases the stamina and power of Mike or the young blood still loses with the ageing Mike.
He is doing an exhibition fight because he cannot be in a professional fight anymore, he already retired a long time ago but he is still actively maintaining his body and his stamina that's why even at his age, he can still fight against a younger fighter.
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December 05, 2021, 09:20:17 AM

Well I wouldn't really call it "rigged" in the literal sense. It is just that if you were an MMA fighter and some amateur with hardly any experience comes around and offers you some money to fight him, you probably wouldn't break his face in several pieces and hammer the shit out of his body.
In this case it might be a little bit different because Logan Paul is an arrogant showman. But as was said before here, they also both know that they get paid also based on pay per view. The longer the fight takes, the more people are going to watch it and pay for it. Tyson and Paul are not stupid in that regard.

It is rigged in a "literal sense", why? Exhibition games doesn't really follow the boxing standards.
Are you really sure that Logan Paul is an arrogant person? Do you know him personally?
Because being arrogant in front of the camera could be just a character to sell himself to the fans, or sell the fight as people would probably love to see him fail in everything he do.

Exhibition matches are like the WWE of boxing. It is plain rigged.

You are absolutely right. I do not understand people who believe that the participants of the exhibition fight will try their best to knock out the opponent. Exhibition fights are rather a show which gathers a huge number of spectators, but is quite boring in comparison with a real fight, where boxers put up a good fight.

I've seen some exhibition fights this year and I see some knockout wins by the winners, so it's just right to expect a knockout as they don't have a judge to score the fight, the only rule is KO your opponent and you'll win. I saw a former NBA player and a former UFC fighter get KO.
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December 05, 2021, 09:15:34 AM

Well I wouldn't really call it "rigged" in the literal sense. It is just that if you were an MMA fighter and some amateur with hardly any experience comes around and offers you some money to fight him, you probably wouldn't break his face in several pieces and hammer the shit out of his body.
In this case it might be a little bit different because Logan Paul is an arrogant showman. But as was said before here, they also both know that they get paid also based on pay per view. The longer the fight takes, the more people are going to watch it and pay for it. Tyson and Paul are not stupid in that regard.

It is rigged in a "literal sense", why? Exhibition games doesn't really follow the boxing standards.
Are you really sure that Logan Paul is an arrogant person? Do you know him personally?
Because being arrogant in front of the camera could be just a character to sell himself to the fans, or sell the fight as people would probably love to see him fail in everything he do.

Exhibition matches are like the WWE of boxing. It is plain rigged.

You are absolutely right. I do not understand people who believe that the participants of the exhibition fight will try their best to knock out the opponent. Exhibition fights are rather a show which gathers a huge number of spectators, but is quite boring in comparison with a real fight, where boxers put up a good fight.
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December 05, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.
Well Tyson is indeed has that power , over the years he still prove that His power punches is still effective .
but the problem here is the stamina , if Logan stands for longer Round then the opportunity of taking the fight is possible.
because Mike might lose his power in the next 4th or up round .
because we cannot deny His age will Hinder Him to stay longer in the fight so he must bring Logan down in the early stage because this young fighter is really thirsty in beating a world champion like Mike Tyson .

That is very true. Age is the curcial factor here and may be that is why they are doing the exhibition fight.
This will prove whether age decreases the stamina and power of Mike or the young blood still loses with the ageing Mike.
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December 05, 2021, 06:00:07 AM

Well I wouldn't really call it "rigged" in the literal sense. It is just that if you were an MMA fighter and some amateur with hardly any experience comes around and offers you some money to fight him, you probably wouldn't break his face in several pieces and hammer the shit out of his body.
In this case it might be a little bit different because Logan Paul is an arrogant showman. But as was said before here, they also both know that they get paid also based on pay per view. The longer the fight takes, the more people are going to watch it and pay for it. Tyson and Paul are not stupid in that regard.

It is rigged in a "literal sense", why? Exhibition games doesn't really follow the boxing standards.
Are you really sure that Logan Paul is an arrogant person? Do you know him personally?
Because being arrogant in front of the camera could be just a character to sell himself to the fans, or sell the fight as people would probably love to see him fail in everything he do.

Exhibition matches are like the WWE of boxing. It is plain rigged.
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December 05, 2021, 05:33:25 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.
Well Tyson is indeed has that power , over the years he still prove that His power punches is still effective .
but the problem here is the stamina , if Logan stands for longer Round then the opportunity of taking the fight is possible.
because Mike might lose his power in the next 4th or up round .
because we cannot deny His age will Hinder Him to stay longer in the fight so he must bring Logan down in the early stage because this young fighter is really thirsty in beating a world champion like Mike Tyson .
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December 05, 2021, 05:25:46 AM
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Thanks for the feedback from you guys.
I confess that I'm a layman in this subject related to exhibition fights and that's why I have limited knowledge with this topic.
This subject that I mentioned above was just a speculation of what could happen in one of these fights, that is, manipulations! But i'm wrong

But I believe you commented, it's valid, it could even be an exhibition fight, but probably at some point in the fight they will go strong to try to knock out the other.
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December 05, 2021, 05:02:32 AM
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And what do you call a fight before which the opponents agree on its conduct and possibly the outcome of the fight? If such a situation occurs in soccer or any other sporting game, such a match is considered fixed. So I think this fight is rigged and betting on it is very risky. Besides, it wasn't Logan Paul who suggested the fight, it was Mike Tyson.
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December 05, 2021, 01:23:28 AM
I think that's not smart if they will have a contract for their agreement to rig the fight. Probably it's just a verbal agreement as a contract can be used to file a legal complaint and that is not good for a boxing exhibition that might only make it transparent to people how they cook it.
It would certainly be a disgrace for a fighter if they made a contract like this. But on the other hand as people have said before, This is an exhibition and there must be something going on there.
Even if there are no rules, I'm sure they will play happily and not kill each other in the ring

Well I wouldn't really call it "rigged" in the literal sense. It is just that if you were an MMA fighter and some amateur with hardly any experience comes around and offers you some money to fight him, you probably wouldn't break his face in several pieces and hammer the shit out of his body.
In this case it might be a little bit different because Logan Paul is an arrogant showman. But as was said before here, they also both know that they get paid also based on pay per view. The longer the fight takes, the more people are going to watch it and pay for it. Tyson and Paul are not stupid in that regard.
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December 04, 2021, 12:02:56 PM
So logically none of the promoters will allow that to happen, the rules are clear before the bout, no winners if it goes to the decision, winner can only be determined if there is a knockout and that is the standard followed in all the exhibition fights.

That makes sense .... Therefore in Mike Tyson really has an edge on this fight because he has the knockout power and if Tyson won't be able to KO Logan Paul because he could use a very effective strategy like making the old man tired, then the end would be boring as it will only become a draw.  Sad
But I think this will end in a draw because that's the most likely way.
On the other hand, I feel that neither of them will win because in a match like this, the result will most likely be a draw.
logan won't be able to beat mike and on the other hand mike definitely won't take this seriously because this is an exhibition
That's just how the exhibition fights end, in a draw. No one will win and at the same time no one will going to lose because there's no judge to set the scores and it doesn't go in your record, it'll be just like a sparr match. But, in the eyes of the spectators there will be a winner depending on who has the upper hand in the match. And in this fight, Mike is likely to win no matter it is, even though he's old enough to do fights but the fact that Mike has accepted this match then we already know that he also up to it. I'm excited to watch this match tho  Wink
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December 04, 2021, 10:57:03 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.

He needs to keep running away if he plan to survive, if Mike corner him it would be his last knowledge to what will happen to him.

Once Mike start throwing solid punches Paul even he is young can't handle that pure blow from Tyson, he's not the Iron Mike for nothing, even at his

age right now, he can still knock you down with his solid upper cut combination, if you watch those video clips that he is doing in his trainings. Grin
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December 04, 2021, 10:53:44 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.

If he would try to knockout Mike, that would made him vulnerable to the big counter punch of Mike. Since the rule is, no winner if no knockout, then most likely Logan Paul would just run all night just to have an even result, it will be a boring fight if Mike Tyson would not be able to catch him, so let's hope he will.
Lets hope that this wont really be a running type of fight because it wont really be worth it and all of us do knows that Mike would be the winner on here based up on being a true boxer and not just came from other sports.

Yes, hes old but punches arent fake and could still able to take down people if he wanted to but for sure this fight wont really be in serious mode then dont expect that much.

Lets see if we do get entertained or not.
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December 04, 2021, 09:58:03 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.

If he would try to knockout Mike, that would made him vulnerable to the big counter punch of Mike. Since the rule is, no winner if no knockout, then most likely Logan Paul would just run all night just to have an even result, it will be a boring fight if Mike Tyson would not be able to catch him, so let's hope he will.
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December 04, 2021, 03:40:47 AM
To be honest, by the time the fight happens, Mike Tyson will be around 55 years old. Although he was an absolute beast in his prime, he's still just a shadow of what he was. Even at the end of his professional career, when he was in his late 30s, he was getting beaten by men he would have KO'd in 1 round. I think Logan Paul has a slight chance if his defense is on point. Let Mike Tyson get tired and try to KO him, and then turn the tables in the later rounds to win on points or potentially KO Tyson in the later rounds. That said, that would require some serious defense from Paul, I doubt he would be able to take Tyson's attacks for several rounds until he gasses.

Overall, I'd say LOgan Paul has around a 25% chance of success if this is his gameplan. He certainly wont win a firefight with Iron Mike that's for sure, idgaf how old or slow he is now.

That's the only strategy that could save Logan's ass from getting kicked by Mike. Mike is getting old but still has the stamina to go several rounds against Logan.
Even if we assume Logan has a good defense to stand the first few rounds against Mike he will need some good attacking skills to knockdown Mike.
Mike's defense is already good and so it will need some extra efforts from Logan else he would be in the loser's shoes.
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December 04, 2021, 03:22:12 AM
So logically none of the promoters will allow that to happen, the rules are clear before the bout, no winners if it goes to the decision, winner can only be determined if there is a knockout and that is the standard followed in all the exhibition fights.

That makes sense .... Therefore in Mike Tyson really has an edge on this fight because he has the knockout power and if Tyson won't be able to KO Logan Paul because he could use a very effective strategy like making the old man tired, then the end would be boring as it will only become a draw.  Sad
But I think this will end in a draw because that's the most likely way.
On the other hand, I feel that neither of them will win because in a match like this, the result will most likely be a draw.
logan won't be able to beat mike and on the other hand mike definitely won't take this seriously because this is an exhibition
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December 03, 2021, 10:40:29 PM
It wont be a disgrace. As an exhibition fight, it wont go into record and in time people will forget about this scripted match. Also no one would complain if they saw its is scripted. Organizers promised show - spectators got it. Spectators wanted to see their idols - they got it. Besides, they can do exhibition match rules like in a fight Logan vs Floyd:There will be no judges for the exhibition + No official winner will be read at the end of the match.. Just step into the ring, marathon every round and you are not a loser Cheesy
Exhibition is never considered to be official on the first place and if someone is offered for them to play inside the ring then they do automatically knows that they wont lose nothing even if they would lose out on the fight literally.Its not official and they just need to follow on whats an exhibition is all about which is pure entertainment
but with some pride and ego then as a boxer then you wouldnt really let yourself lose into someone which isnt level on your skills and experience specially on a
sports where you do specialized on.

I just hope that ego will be triggered for Mike Tyson to become serious on the fight even that's an exhibition match. No doubt that we all want to see Logan Paul being KO for the first time and kiss the boxing ring. But no matter how I looked at it, Tyson will just treat this match as a fun match.

There are people who are willing to spend money on the fight so at least they should give an exciting match.
Whatever the reason, Logan Paul has absolutely no chance of beating Mike Tyson.
Logan Paul has no chance of surviving 8 rounds with Mike Tyson unless Mike, with little mercy or business, decides to take him. But that's not Mike!
Whatever the purpose of this fight, Mike Tyson will surely get carried away in the ring and will continue to fight professionally and ruthlessly as he has done in the ring before.
and whatever the purpose of this fight, he will continue to fight professionally and wildly, all he has on his mind when he is in the ring is to beat and take down the enemy and Logan Paul will feel that.
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December 03, 2021, 09:58:23 PM
It wont be a disgrace. As an exhibition fight, it wont go into record and in time people will forget about this scripted match. Also no one would complain if they saw its is scripted. Organizers promised show - spectators got it. Spectators wanted to see their idols - they got it. Besides, they can do exhibition match rules like in a fight Logan vs Floyd:There will be no judges for the exhibition + No official winner will be read at the end of the match.. Just step into the ring, marathon every round and you are not a loser Cheesy
Exhibition is never considered to be official on the first place and if someone is offered for them to play inside the ring then they do automatically knows that they wont lose nothing even if they would lose out on the fight literally.Its not official and they just need to follow on whats an exhibition is all about which is pure entertainment
but with some pride and ego then as a boxer then you wouldnt really let yourself lose into someone which isnt level on your skills and experience specially on a
sports where you do specialized on.

I just hope that ego will be triggered for Mike Tyson to become serious on the fight even that's an exhibition match. No doubt that we all want to see Logan Paul being KO for the first time and kiss the boxing ring. But no matter how I looked at it, Tyson will just treat this match as a fun match.

There are people who are willing to spend money on the fight so at least they should give an exciting match.
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