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December 01, 2021, 01:15:32 PM
As a boxing fan I both considered the ability of the fighter, skills, experiences and records of his fights and also the age of the fighter. It is undeniable that once a fighter has age it also slows downs his speed and lessen the strength which should a fighter must contain a high power and high strength to be able to win in the fight. I didn't say that Tyson is not a good fighter because if we were going to base on his records this man has an exceptional fight experience, however many bettors were concerning about his age.
Yes, I understand you. What you said is undeniable, when human beings get old it is normal for them to lose their agility, flexibility, among other things, after all, this happens to all of us (humans). It's almost certain that a 20 or 25 year old fighter can be faster than Tyson, I have no doubts, but experience and technique are important factors too!

I believe the only attribute that he is likely to decrease gradually (not as fast as aging) but is the skill/experience of the player/fighter. (Of course, this is something relative)

I would think that Tyson would lose against a professional boxer, but against Logan Paul? I highly doubt that because the latter has no professional boxing experience, so he does not train hard like Tyson did when he was still active, with that said, I think Tyson would win without a question, but not sure if the KO will come since an exhibition fight might have some stipulation inside the contact that we don't know.
Indeed, infact Logan has no chance in this fight at all, I know it's about money and all for Logan but I really don't know what he's thinking that he's so blunt about this fight. He will going to really lose his face after this match, I can already imagine it.
I'm sure this match is much more entertaining to see than Floyd vs Logan, because maybe Mike is going to show some hard blows and make Logan fall in his knees Grin
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December 01, 2021, 10:26:21 AM
Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.

As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.

Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right.

As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?

I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight

Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff.
I feel sure it will be like this because indeed a match like this is not only to show who is strong because technically it has been seen who is a boxer and who is an amateur here.
on the other hand, things like this are just entertainment to make boxing lovers quench their thirst, I think. regardless of what scenario there is something like this is not too important because it is already seen who will win in this match. there is a second option if there is something that is indeed profitable, namely by making them a draw like in the mayweather vs logan exhibition some time ago.
It won't be far like this.
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December 01, 2021, 10:17:47 AM
As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?

Not exactly like that, but I have a feeling, that there is a clause saying "not to kill your opponent". This fight is about entertainment. To let people have a good evening, and not scan kill-kill-kill in the venue.

Look at Logans past. Where he did such huge popularity from. His army of fans probably are kids and teenagers. I dont think that parents and organizers will allow to see how their celebrity is being brutally knockout or even injured. I am pretty sure there is a approximate scenario of their fight. Logan do maximum to defense, Mike tries not to knockout cold Logan. Some knockdowns or liver punches will more than enough to show that professional boxer, even in his late age, is still cool, and a talented guy can survive some rounds against the beast. That is it.
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December 01, 2021, 03:12:17 AM
Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.

As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.

Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right.

As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?

I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight

Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff.

No doubt this is an exhibition fight but the rules of the boxing should remain the same and should not be altered. Also there should be no understanding of who will win and who will lose. The match should be natural as only then the audience will be interested to watch the match.
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December 01, 2021, 02:38:51 AM
Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.

As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.

Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right.

As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?

I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight

Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff.

I think that's not smart if they will have a contract for their agreement to rig the fight. Probably it's just a verbal agreement as a contract can be used to file a legal complaint and that is not good for a boxing exhibition that might only make it transparent to people how they cook it.
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December 01, 2021, 02:33:33 AM
Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.

As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.

Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
Hmm, looking at this way, you're right.

As an exhibition fight, do you think that before they fight, an agreement is signed imposing that the fight occur in 3 rounds? 5 rounds? or something similar like that!!? Is it allowed to knock out the opponent?

I think these are important questions, because if there is any closure saying what you can and cannot do, we will already have a "winner" and therefore we can have a prediction of the duration of the fight

Anyway... these are exhibition fight stuff.
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November 30, 2021, 06:05:08 PM
Oh man this is the first I am hearing of this match.  FINALLY we have someone that without question is going to kick the shit out of Logan Paul.  Tyson may be an old far at this point in his career, but let's not forget that Iron Mike is one of boxings all time greatest, and he still packs a punch to say the least.  I will without question be watching this one with great anticipation!
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November 30, 2021, 04:59:24 PM
Is asking who's going to win even a question? Mike Tyson is the bad boy of the boxing ring, and Logan probably wouldn't even stand a chance IF this was an official match. If this was a charity match though, well, seeing a staged fight isn't out of the picture imo. We've seen it happen in the past, after all, pretty much nothing is impossible at this point. Not that I'd talk down about them doing it, it's for charity and all but it wouldn't exactly be that interesting imo. Others might enjoy it though, it is mainly centered on entertaining people who would watch it since it is a possible exhibition match.
People would normally be asking on whose gonna win even though this one is already obvious when it comes to outcome or result but you should mind that there were Logan fans out there which do really believe that Logan could really pull this off thats why we do really end up on having debate and discussions between two possible outcome.
There's no way that Mike would really be beaten by Logan on which way you do see and exhibition fights is for entertainment and not for having real fights. Tongue
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November 30, 2021, 03:51:43 PM
however in boxing there is no guarantee the fight will last as long as what the boxers agreed on the contract as a single punch can end the fight in a second.
That's where the excitement comes, we are looking for this one-shot especially coming from Mike Tyson.

A game could end quickly but in a manner like this, it will already satisfy the fans and Mike Tyson would definitely make a headline in the world although this is only an exhibition fight. Maybe it's also available in the betting lines like 1st round KO by Tyson.
Without a doubt a KO is one of the most spectacular moments we can see in sports, but I was talking about the context in which a KO happens quickly while the fans have been waiting for years for a fight to happen, in that context I still think the KO will be a disappointment if it happens so early during the fight.

Now, I do not think Mike will win by a KO on the first round, not because he cannot do it but because this is an exhibition fight, they want to entertain the fans which means that even if he knows he can do it he wont as if he KOs Loan Paul too quickly fans may not watch another exhibition fight which involves Mike.
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November 30, 2021, 08:07:24 AM
Tyson should beat Logan in the first minutes because of his experience, but if he doesn't then I think Logan could beat him later because of his better condition (he's just much younger). However, in my opinion, this fight should not come out of round 3. It all depends on whether they will fight seriously or it will be just a show.

As far as exhibition matches are concerned, the fight should be finished till the end without a Knock Out.

It's the same as previously exhibition matches. The goal is to entertain people and not to finish the job within early rounds.

That's already expected by many.

@chaser15 I agree with you, because I think that if Tyson wanted he could easily beat Logan in that fight later, but obviously the fight is just for entertainment, so I think there will be a little drama later that will happen to please the audience, we everyone here knows Tyson's prowess well and if he fights it will certainly be very brutal to attack from the first round begins, but it seems we will not see that in the later fight between Tyson vs Logan.
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November 30, 2021, 07:24:36 AM
Tyson should beat Logan in the first minutes because of his experience, but if he doesn't then I think Logan could beat him later because of his better condition (he's just much younger). However, in my opinion, this fight should not come out of round 3. It all depends on whether they will fight seriously or it will be just a show.
Exactly, if they fight in earnest (especially Tyson) I have no doubts that in a few rounds the fight could be over, with Tyson probably winning.

Absolutely I will follow this fight, maybe it could be a very quick fight, or maybe not.

Why then the fight between Logan Paul and Floyd Mayweather last all 8 rounds? Floyds is also very experienced. He could have ended the fight in first round. Half of his wins are by KO, so yes, Floyds is also able to knock people out.

As sovie told - it is a show. No one is interested in knocking Logan. Knocking him out could made him stop boxing. That means people wont be able to earn on him. But that is stupid, because he is a media person.

Fight scenario might be following: people will check how good betting is doing. If they earn good money now, they might "make" this fight to end with a draw and make them rematch.
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November 30, 2021, 04:31:08 AM
Due to that, the advantage has been seen by people like Logan because there are a lot of fans that are also following these type of matches because it's fun.

Logan Paul also has a lot of fans but on his youtube channel only, currently at over 23 million, so that would already given us a picture that the fight could sell since he has millions of follows that maybe a certain percentage will at least buy the PPV or watch the fight live.

On the other hand, Mike Tyson is always a legend, everyone knows him, so this fight is like a blockbuster fight/

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His fight always sell. That's why he'll just keep on doing matches like this and challenge those popular figure in different sports. That's the essence of his fights.
He can make easy millions through his matches and it's just a matter of time for earning that amount because he knows that he's got the following and as well as those opponents he'll challenge.
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November 30, 2021, 02:20:08 AM
Tyson should beat Logan in the first minutes because of his experience, but if he doesn't then I think Logan could beat him later because of his better condition (he's just much younger). However, in my opinion, this fight should not come out of round 3. It all depends on whether they will fight seriously or it will be just a show.
Exactly, if they fight in earnest (especially Tyson) I have no doubts that in a few rounds the fight could be over, with Tyson probably winning.

Absolutely I will follow this fight, maybe it could be a very quick fight, or maybe not.
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November 30, 2021, 12:08:23 AM
There are also those who would like to see a real hard fight, but if that's what you say that exhibition fight has to take place at full distance I'm pretty sure there will be an unfair draw again. This would explain why bookmakers collect bets. Probably the lowest odds will be on the draw.  Cool
If you see a fight of Paul brothers you shouldn't expect it's a professional fight Tongue

I don't think draw is the lowest odds here, it seems Tyson is the lowest odds since many people favoriting him. Win or lose won't harm each other, while the professional fight you need to collect and defend your belt to become the best boxer.

If the fight isn't going distance, pretty sure they will just hug each other until the rounds end Cheesy
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November 29, 2021, 07:43:03 PM

As far as exhibition matches are concerned, the fight should be finished till the end without a Knock Out.

It's the same as previously exhibition matches. The goal is to entertain people and not to finish the job within early rounds.

That's already expected by many.

There are also those who would like to see a real hard fight, but if that's what you say that exhibition fight has to take place at full distance I'm pretty sure there will be an unfair draw again. This would explain why bookmakers collect bets. Probably the lowest odds will be on the draw.  Cool
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November 29, 2021, 07:32:18 PM
Tyson should beat Logan in the first minutes because of his experience, but if he doesn't then I think Logan could beat him later because of his better condition (he's just much younger). However, in my opinion, this fight should not come out of round 3. It all depends on whether they will fight seriously or it will be just a show.

As far as exhibition matches are concerned, the fight should be finished till the end without a Knock Out.

It's the same as previously exhibition matches. The goal is to entertain people and not to finish the job within early rounds.

That's already expected by many.
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November 29, 2021, 07:13:18 PM
I would think that Tyson would lose against a professional boxer, but against Logan Paul? I highly doubt that because the latter has no professional boxing experience, so he does not train hard like Tyson did when he was still active, with that said, I think Tyson would win without a question, but not sure if the KO will come since an exhibition fight might have some stipulation inside the contact that we don't know.
I also agree with that.
I still think Tyson may even have a little more technique and experience than certain professional fighters these days (not all, but some fighters), but on the other hand, Tyson shouldn't have the physical fitness and stamina of a professional figther these days.

Let's see what this fight can give us!

Tyson should beat Logan in the first minutes because of his experience, but if he doesn't then I think Logan could beat him later because of his better condition (he's just much younger). However, in my opinion, this fight should not come out of round 3. It all depends on whether they will fight seriously or it will be just a show.
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November 29, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
I would think that Tyson would lose against a professional boxer, but against Logan Paul? I highly doubt that because the latter has no professional boxing experience, so he does not train hard like Tyson did when he was still active, with that said, I think Tyson would win without a question, but not sure if the KO will come since an exhibition fight might have some stipulation inside the contact that we don't know.
I also agree with that.
I still think Tyson may even have a little more technique and experience than certain professional fighters these days (not all, but some fighters), but on the other hand, Tyson shouldn't have the physical fitness and stamina of a professional figther these days.

Let's see what this fight can give us!
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November 29, 2021, 06:15:12 PM
^^ Tyson losing or if this fight ends in draw could be a scam itself.

Again as I have said before, they have done it before when the judges score a draw in the fight of Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. For me Tyson clearly won that fight and he was the favorite that time. And the only winner is the sport bookies, and that's why I'm going to skip this exhibition match for good because of that sad experience of this fight being rigged.

Unfortunately, it seems that this time the situation can be similar to fight Tyson vs RJJ.
I also have big doubts about whether Tyson will fight to beat Logan. All indications are that he is doing it only for the money.
I think the risk that the result of this fight is planned is very high.
STT
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November 29, 2021, 06:14:41 PM
There's no draw odds for this fight likely to become available just like his brothers fight isnt showing any draw odds right now.  Dec 19th I think that is, we missed our chance on the draw bets because its become too obvious these results aren't exactly free reign in their outcome and draw is the most probable outcome appears like.   We all know that's ridiculous but a fight in 2021 is a long way from the Tyson or any fight outcome from 1987 era etc.
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