[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 46.

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You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan.

Sure it is incomparable to this match because this is far from being a professional match.

I'm also thinking that Mike won't just let Logan give him a slide and win on this match despite being exhibition. I think that everyone wants to see him being beaten by Mike.

Money, fame or reputation, Mike will probably choose the latter.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. He has already gained fame and is a legend. However, we all know about his financial problems. If this information is true, then unfortunately Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

One thing I'm sure of is that he is not financially bankrupt because there was news before that he donated most of his income to the charity.
Better read this article below and I believe it's true.

Mike Tyson claims he will donate most of the $10 million he earns in Roy Jones Jr. fight to charities

He isn't financially bankrupt. Now what he fights for, looks like fun and entertaining. Logan Paul being young makes him go for such a fight and increase his fame out of luck. However this will be with full of expectations. Mike Tyson's famous quote "Without discipline you can't be a champion. Discipline is what you hate to do, but do it like you love it". I don't know how discipline is Logan Paul when it comes to boxing Cheesy

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I wouldn't be so sure about it. He has already gained fame and is a legend. However, we all know about his financial problems. If this information is true, then unfortunately Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

One thing I'm sure of is that he is not financially bankrupt because there was news before that he donated most of his income to the charity.
Better read this article below and I believe it's true.

Mike Tyson claims he will donate most of the $10 million he earns in Roy Jones Jr. fight to charities

Thanks.

That's good to hear that he's not that as what yinshui has said that he's experiencing financial problems. Then if that's the case, then he won't be pursued to just make the match for the sake of money.

Later I verified my knowledge and in fact, officially Mike no longer has financial problems:

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2021, 05:04:33 PM

Official sources and magazines say Mike is no longer in debt, but I doubt we'll know the whole truth.
Besides, Mike is definitely used to living in luxury, so if someone makes him a lucrative offer under the table, why shouldn't he accept it? After all, even if he loses, he loses nothing.. and maybe even earns more on the future rematch.

However, I still do not trust that this fight will be completely clean. The whole event feels more like an abstraction than a sports show.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 14, 2021, 08:34:58 AM

You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan.

Sure it is incomparable to this match because this is far from being a professional match.

I'm also thinking that Mike won't just let Logan give him a slide and win on this match despite being exhibition. I think that everyone wants to see him being beaten by Mike.

Money, fame or reputation, Mike will probably choose the latter.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. He has already gained fame and is a legend. However, we all know about his financial problems. If this information is true, then unfortunately Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

One thing I'm sure of is that he is not financially bankrupt because there was news before that he donated most of his income to the charity.
Better read this article below and I believe it's true.

Mike Tyson claims he will donate most of the $10 million he earns in Roy Jones Jr. fight to charities

Thanks.

That's good to hear that he's not that as what yinshui has said that he's experiencing financial problems. Then if that's the case, then he won't be pursued to just make the match for the sake of money.

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Quote from: stadus on November 15, 2021, 05:17:32 PM

Quote from: livingfree on November 15, 2021, 05:14:14 PM

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

One thing I'm sure of is that he is not financially bankrupt because there was news before that he donated most of his income to the charity.
Better read this article below and I believe it's true.

Mike Tyson claims he will donate most of the $10 million he earns in Roy Jones Jr. fight to charities

Mike's financial problems are a thing of the past. He announced bankruptcy but it was in 2003.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11866851/mike-tyson-bankrupt-hollywood-cannabis-farm/

(I like the idea with cannabis farm the most, but when it comes to The Sun, they had to add something stupid)

I hope that the fight we will see will be clean, and even though it is only an exhibition event, Mike will show what he can do, as it was in the old days.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 14, 2021, 08:34:58 AM

You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan.

Sure it is incomparable to this match because this is far from being a professional match.

I'm also thinking that Mike won't just let Logan give him a slide and win on this match despite being exhibition. I think that everyone wants to see him being beaten by Mike.

Money, fame or reputation, Mike will probably choose the latter.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. He has already gained fame and is a legend. However, we all know about his financial problems. If this information is true, then unfortunately Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

One thing I'm sure of is that he is not financially bankrupt because there was news before that he donated most of his income to the charity.
Better read this article below and I believe it's true.

Mike Tyson claims he will donate most of the $10 million he earns in Roy Jones Jr. fight to charities

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Quote from: Viscore on November 14, 2021, 08:34:58 AM

You can't compare this fight to the fight of Manny against Ugas, that was a professional fight and Ugas is a champion as well. This match is a pure exhibition match and if we look at the experience of the fighters, clearly Mike Tyson has the advantage and that fact that he is still fit now, I have a feeling that his chance of winning is higher against Logan.

Sure it is incomparable to this match because this is far from being a professional match.

I'm also thinking that Mike won't just let Logan give him a slide and win on this match despite being exhibition. I think that everyone wants to see him being beaten by Mike.

Money, fame or reputation, Mike will probably choose the latter.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. He has already gained fame and is a legend. However, we all know about his financial problems. If this information is true, then unfortunately Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

I don't know about that thing about Mike.

But if he's bankrupt and has to accept matches like this then he would take anything for sure even what it takes as long as the price is right. I really don't think that he's onto that point though.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 14, 2021, 05:38:49 PM

Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

Problem is Mike can always earn more money so people will always lend him more which puts him further under the ice worse off overall, its not ideal.

Official sources and magazines say Mike is no longer in debt, but I doubt we'll know the whole truth.
Besides, Mike is definitely used to living in luxury, so if someone makes him a lucrative offer under the table, why shouldn't he accept it? After all, even if he loses, he loses nothing.. and maybe even earns more on the future rematch.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 14, 2021, 05:38:49 PM

Mike is bankrupt and even drowning in debt, so if anyone would like to earn money from it, it is possible that Mike would agree to some very profitable proposition...

Problem is Mike can always earn more money so people will always lend him more which puts him further under the ice in debt paying interest in the hands of those with holds over him and worse off overall, it cant be a nice way to end a career.

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Thats why its called "Exhibition" fight.

An exhibition fight is a contact sports non-profit event, usually a boxing fight in which participants fight, normally for three rounds. They may wear large gloves to minimize punch harm or impact on the combatants, headgear, and non-boxing related clothing.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight

You couldnt see an official match between fighters crossing up on other sports.

In my opinion, there is so much controversy around this fight because it is not a "non-profit event" but a fight for which there is a lot of money.
It is also obvious that if Mike Tyson is fighting, bookmakers will definitely take advantage of it. However, if there is so much controversy around the results, should there be such fights at all?

Most of the fights now are not a non-profit event, though some fights proceeds might go to charity but I think they'll not give everything because they are risking their health when fighting in the ring. However, since this is just an exhibition fight, the promoter could make it easy for both by making a script and fighters are just to avoid, we only expect much because they are good in hyping a fight.

I agree with everything, but if it is true that this fight is actually going on according to a pre-planned scenario, does it even make sense to bet on such a fight? In my opinion, this is the way that leads such fights towards American Wrestling, which for me has almost nothing to do with sport.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 15, 2021, 04:14:44 PM

Most of the fights now are not a non-profit event, though some fights proceeds might go to charity but I think they'll not give everything because they are risking their health when fighting in the ring. However, since this is just an exhibition fight, the promoter could make it easy for both by making a script and fighters are just to avoid, we only expect much because they are good in hyping a fight.

And that's what the promoters really wanted to happen. They are hyping this exhibition fight to generate more profits. It's no longer because of charities. It's far different from Jones Jr fight. The timing of that particular fight is when pandemic hits the economy. No, the economy is trying to move back.

Promoters are trying to make a good deal, they are really trying hard to make this thing as hot as possible to generate more interest and after while converted it to real money. Grin

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Quote from: bitgov on November 15, 2021, 03:04:02 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on November 15, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

Thats why its called "Exhibition" fight.

An exhibition fight is a contact sports non-profit event, usually a boxing fight in which participants fight, normally for three rounds. They may wear large gloves to minimize punch harm or impact on the combatants, headgear, and non-boxing related clothing.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight

You couldnt see an official match between fighters crossing up on other sports.

In my opinion, there is so much controversy around this fight because it is not a "non-profit event" but a fight for which there is a lot of money.
It is also obvious that if Mike Tyson is fighting, bookmakers will definitely take advantage of it. However, if there is so much controversy around the results, should there be such fights at all?

Most of the fights now are not a non-profit event, though some fights proceeds might go to charity but I think they'll not give everything because they are risking their health when fighting in the ring. However, since this is just an exhibition fight, the promoter could make it easy for both by making a script and fighters are just to avoid, we only expect much because they are good in hyping a fight.

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 15, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

Thats why its called "Exhibition" fight.

An exhibition fight is a contact sports non-profit event, usually a boxing fight in which participants fight, normally for three rounds. They may wear large gloves to minimize punch harm or impact on the combatants, headgear, and non-boxing related clothing.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight

You couldnt see an official match between fighters crossing up on other sports.

In my opinion, there is so much controversy around this fight because it is not a "non-profit event" but a fight for which there is a lot of money.
It is also obvious that if Mike Tyson is fighting, bookmakers will definitely take advantage of it. However, if there is so much controversy around the results, should there be such fights at all?

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In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....

I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner.

Of course there will be a winner, or possibly a draw (as in the Tyson vs RJJ fight). However, I don't think the result of this fight will be taken into account in any professional rankings. I think everyone take this fight only as an interesting show not as sport event.

Thats why its called "Exhibition" fight.

An exhibition fight is a contact sports non-profit event, usually a boxing fight in which participants fight, normally for three rounds. They may wear large gloves to minimize punch harm or impact on the combatants, headgear, and non-boxing related clothing.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight

You couldnt see an official match between fighters crossing up on other sports.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 15, 2021, 03:35:48 AM

Quote from: cabron on November 15, 2021, 03:29:49 AM

In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....

I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner.

Of course there will be a winner, or possibly a draw (as in the Tyson vs RJJ fight). However, I don't think the result of this fight will be taken into account in any professional rankings. I think everyone take this fight only as an interesting show not as sport event.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 15, 2021, 03:35:48 AM

Quote from: cabron on November 15, 2021, 03:29:49 AM

In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....

I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner.

Yes it would be practically uninteresting to watch if there's if no one is going to be declared winner of the said exhibition fight. In terms of seeing a knockout, it's indeed good to see one in this match but don't think it possibly happen. This match will just be pure entertainment only and no one will likely injured badly, besides I believe that this is just a commemoration of the legendary Mike Tyson.
I bet Logan Paul will lose this match and sadly this will be an addition to his career.

Same here, I think Logan Paul will lose this fight, he has not faced a fighter like Mike Tyson before who is aggressive and knows how to handle himself under pressure. Logan Paul has not proven anything yet, so why would anything think that he would win this fight? Maybe because of his youth? but I guess that's not enough to beat a legend.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 15, 2021, 03:35:48 AM

Quote from: cabron on November 15, 2021, 03:29:49 AM

In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....

I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner.

Yes it would be practically uninteresting to watch if there's if no one is going to be declared winner of the said exhibition fight. In terms of seeing a knockout, it's indeed good to see one in this match but don't think it possibly happen. This match will just be pure entertainment only and no one will likely injured badly, besides I believe that this is just a commemoration of the legendary Mike Tyson.
I bet Logan Paul will lose this match and sadly this will be an addition to his career.

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Quote from: cabron on November 15, 2021, 03:29:49 AM

In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here....

I don't think so, there are already betting odds that are out this early so I expect that there's a winner in this game. If an exhibition fight does not declare any winner, it would be boring and fans will not likely support it, and if that's the case, then maybe we need to see someone get KO'd just to know who is the winner.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 14, 2021, 08:01:26 PM

The money is fixed, as it is in most boxing fights. As far as I know, boxers rarely get commission from ticket sales and broadcasts.
The question is, is do the result also is fixed... Grin

If the result is not fixed then I think Mike should have won via KO without any problems. However, if it is not like that, we can expect everything.

In Jake Paul last fight against Woodley, Woodley was protesting that there was a stipulation in the contract that there should be a knockdown in the fight, exhibitions are like this they have a lot of stipulations, this is not to hurt or win but to just entertain the fans, although I really want Mike to knock out this guy, I doubt if we'll see that unless Mike break the rules and opted to please the crowd by knocking out this dude.

You call a fixed match entertaining? Woodley would've easily knocked out someone who has 0 experience in pro boxing, same with Mayweather, just imagine a pro boxer's work ethic compared to a content creator like Logan Paul, he's an amateur boxer, I'm not belittling Logan Paul but everything seems to be sketchy with their fights, people are actually betting the shit out of these exhibition matches and expect a good fight but just to know that these matches were fixed in the first place, it is possible for Logan to win against these boxers but if you watch these matches, go back to my post and see for yourself how right I am.

If Mike loses on this match, I swear that this'll be the most rotten piece of garbage match I'll be watching in my entire life.

In the fight of Logan vs Mayweather, there is still no official result so it's the same thing that will happen here. Clearly, there was a clean hit by Floyd which somewhat like Logan was stunned but hung on to the back of Mayweather so he'll not fall to the ground. Despite that, it's a draw. So there is no real reason really to bet.

Mike could knock Logan with on big uppercut and Logan could do the same to Mike. But this will not matter with exhibition fights.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 14, 2021, 08:01:26 PM

The money is fixed, as it is in most boxing fights. As far as I know, boxers rarely get commission from ticket sales and broadcasts.
The question is, is do the result also is fixed... Grin

If the result is not fixed then I think Mike should have won via KO without any problems. However, if it is not like that, we can expect everything.

In Jake Paul last fight against Woodley, Woodley was protesting that there was a stipulation in the contract that there should be a knockdown in the fight, exhibitions are like this they have a lot of stipulations, this is not to hurt or win but to just entertain the fans, although I really want Mike to knock out this guy, I doubt if we'll see that unless Mike break the rules and opted to please the crowd by knocking out this dude.

You call a fixed match entertaining? Woodley would've easily knocked out someone who has 0 experience in pro boxing, same with Mayweather, just imagine a pro boxer's work ethic compared to a content creator like Logan Paul, he's an amateur boxer, I'm not belittling Logan Paul but everything seems to be sketchy with their fights, people are actually betting the shit out of these exhibition matches and expect a good fight but just to know that these matches were fixed in the first place, it is possible for Logan to win against these boxers but if you watch these matches, go back to my post and see for yourself how right I am.

If Mike loses on this match, I swear that this'll be the most rotten piece of garbage match I'll be watching in my entire life.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 14, 2021, 08:01:26 PM

The money is fixed, as it is in most boxing fights. As far as I know, boxers rarely get commission from ticket sales and broadcasts.
The question is, is do the result also is fixed... Grin

If the result is not fixed then I think Mike should have won via KO without any problems. However, if it is not like that, we can expect everything.

In Jake Paul last fight against Woodley, Woodley was protesting that there was a stipulation in the contract that there should be a knockdown in the fight, exhibitions are like this they have a lot of stipulations, this is not to hurt or win but to just entertain the fans, although I really want Mike to knock out this guy, I doubt if we'll see that unless Mike break the rules and opted to please the crowd by knocking out this dude.

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