[BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson - page 49.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 13, 2021, 02:11:33 AM

There is no way Mike Tyson will lose this fight willingly just for the sake of money. The reputation he has built over the years can't be given up just like that.
If the fight is scripted it will just be that Mike Tyson will receive a few punches as well but Mike Tyson won't give up losing the fight for money sake.

Aha, uh, you talk as if Tyson is 25 years old, I admit the reputation, that was 25 years ago, but now it's different, Logan Paul is younger and the punch is stronger.
I take an example:
The strength and physique of the old man is not as strong as that of the young, although the old man was once a legendary boxing athlete, that is the key.

I've seen Maradona play with his students at their training ground, Maradona admitted he was old and tired quickly before he died at that time.

I think the same thing will happen with Tyson and Logan in the ring later, this is not a reputation or boxing legend, if Tyson loses, this is purely Tyson's age and physique at this time, already weakened.

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Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

I think Mike still has his pride, some have stated that fights like this can ruin the legacy of a fighter and personally I do not believe so, however if the fight was scripted as you say I really think that is one of the few ways in which Mike could ruin his status as a professional boxer and a legend.

If he wants to do this for charity or because he needs the money or just because he misses being above the ring then that is fine, as long as the fight evolves within the rules of any fight then I have no problem with what happens above the ring even if he happens to lose, but a scripted fight is something that without a doubt the fans are not interested in watching at all.

There is no way Mike Tyson will lose this fight willingly just for the sake of money. The reputation he has built over the years can't be given up just like that.
If the fight is scripted it will just be that Mike Tyson will receive a few punches as well but Mike Tyson won't give up losing the fight for money sake.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2021, 06:07:14 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on November 12, 2021, 12:59:14 PM

I think, that if before Iron Mike was interested in his career now he is only interested in money.

It's mostly about money for most people.

Why else would you put yourself through that? These fighters are putting their health on the line. Mike Tyson even said he used to cry before fights because of what he knew he was going to do to the other man in the ring. He literally had a traumatizing moment before every fight that most kids today would probably be seeking PTSD medication for. It isn't something he wanted to do or enjoyed. He hated hurting people and talks about it quite openly nowadays. Now that Mike has become a serious businessman and could use funds for investing in himself, this sort of fight is like a lifeline for him. It better be about money, because I am a huge fan of Mike and want to see him have all the success in the world and for him, the future isn't in the boxing ring, it's in the boardroom.

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Its expected that everything would really be having that script. Cheesy

Only a few expect that it's gonna be a scripted fight, but let me ask, what do you think would be the content on the script? I mean who will win in this fight and how the win would look like? I guess that's something we have to know so it's easier for us bettors to choose what kind of bet we will put in.

Not a few but many. Every time there's a match like this, an exhibition. Many are already thinking about the staged fight and there's someone who's going to win unexpectedly.
There could be a lucky punch thrown to the opponent who's about to win. And that's usually what many are thinking about with these exhibition matches, it's Mike Tyson, one of the GOATS in the entire boxing industry and we'll see if he's up to those 'scripts'.

If there's a script for them to follow then it better be based on the expectation of the many. So probably the last fight of Logan Paul is based on the script too, and I don't think it was entertaining and has satisfied the fans. I read a lot of comments that the fight was boring but these two (Mayweather and Logan) are really good at hyping a fight which would make people buy it.

We're just speculating, we don't know if there is or there's none. It's just about the usual thought about exhibition match and noting that Logan Paul is involved then that's why there's a thought that have startled about script and staged fight.
Until we haven't seen the match, we can't judge if it's entertaining or not. We have to see it actually and have our thoughts say if it's entertaining but needless to say, yeah, we acknowledge how good the Paul's are hyping their matches.

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Quote from: madnessteat on November 12, 2021, 12:59:14 PM

I think, that if before Iron Mike was interested in his career now he is only interested in money.

It's mostly about money for most people. I mean if I offered you 1 million to step in the ring with Logan Paul would you? Of course you would, there's a very minimal chance of getting hurt from a Mike Tyson perspective, a butt load more money than 1 million pounds to be paid, and he gets to do something he enjoys. Exhibition fights are literally the icing on the cake for professional boxers once they've passed a certain age. I don't blame them on milking it.

Quote from: wxa7115 on November 12, 2021, 04:56:23 PM

I think Mike still has his pride, some have stated that fights like this can ruin the legacy of a fighter and personally I do not believe so, however if the fight was scripted as you say I really think that is one of the few ways in which Mike could ruin his status as a professional boxer and a legend.

Probably wouldn't ruin it at all, especially not for a exhibition. Sports fans are fickle, and we only care about entertainment these days, gone are the days where it was about pride, and honour. Most boxers these days want some cash, and fame. I'm not suggesting that's entirely a bad thing though, just different to how it used to be. Anyway, if it wasn't for these things fighting sports wouldn't be such a big event that they are today.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on November 12, 2021, 05:16:56 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 11, 2021, 09:12:03 PM

Yes, Foreman become the oldest heavyweight champion at age 45 years old. Tyson now is age 55, so that's a 10 year discrepancy.

But here is some difference: Foreman fought against professional boxers and Tyson will fight against amateur. This is not the same case because it's harder to win against well trained and experienced opponent rather to former youtube blogger.

Something like that.

Right because the experience opponent is more heavier due to the training he do and also he knows already on how to prolong his stamina so there's no doubt that it will end up to be a good match for them but for this fight between Tyson and Paul I doubt this is a match knowing tyson is a champion and well experience one so for sure many expect that he will eat Logan for this fight although this is an exhibition fight but the odds for tyson to win is so huge.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 11, 2021, 09:12:03 PM

Yes, Foreman become the oldest heavyweight champion at age 45 years old. Tyson now is age 55, so that's a 10 year discrepancy.

But here is some difference: Foreman fought against professional boxers and Tyson will fight against amateur. This is not the same case because it's harder to win against well trained and experienced opponent rather to former youtube blogger.

Something like that.

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Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

I think Mike still has his pride, some have stated that fights like this can ruin the legacy of a fighter and personally I do not believe so, however if the fight was scripted as you say I really think that is one of the few ways in which Mike could ruin his status as a professional boxer and a legend.

If he wants to do this for charity or because he needs the money or just because he misses being above the ring then that is fine, as long as the fight evolves within the rules of any fight then I have no problem with what happens above the ring even if he happens to lose, but a scripted fight is something that without a doubt the fans are not interested in watching at all.

He wouldnt really tend to ruin the thing he had built up for years back in the past and making himself look like funny or a clown on this upcoming fight
with Logan.

He would be surely thinking on how giving the fans a really good and satisfying performance and wont be tending on doing any bullshit to make look
himself to be a dumb one just for money that he could make on this fight.

Not really that surprising that there would be some criticisms but well lets just deal or bare with it.

By the right training and keeping his stamina good, I think that's what Tyson needs to do now because he already has the boxing skills and he is a legend, so now way Logan would outboxed him, unless he'll get tired and unable to throw heavy punches anymore.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 12, 2021, 04:56:23 PM

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Quote from: Quidat on November 07, 2021, 02:56:50 PM

Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

I think Mike still has his pride, some have stated that fights like this can ruin the legacy of a fighter and personally I do not believe so, however if the fight was scripted as you say I really think that is one of the few ways in which Mike could ruin his status as a professional boxer and a legend.

If he wants to do this for charity or because he needs the money or just because he misses being above the ring then that is fine, as long as the fight evolves within the rules of any fight then I have no problem with what happens above the ring even if he happens to lose, but a scripted fight is something that without a doubt the fans are not interested in watching at all.

He wouldnt really tend to ruin the thing he had built up for years back in the past and making himself look like funny or a clown on this upcoming fight
with Logan.

He would be surely thinking on how giving the fans a really good and satisfying performance and wont be tending on doing any bullshit to make look
himself to be a dumb one just for money that he could make on this fight.

Not really that surprising that there would be some criticisms but well lets just deal or bare with it.

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Quote from: Quidat on November 07, 2021, 02:56:50 PM

Definitely 0% i would say and if you do look Logan on that previous fight against Mayweather then you could already see that stamina is also a big problem for Logan which
i wont believe that it could go par with the current old Tyson thats why im really that confident that he could snatch up this fight on easy win if he wanted to.
Well, as an exhibition fight then this is already part of the script that they would need to dance inside the ring to entertain things up.

Lol, that's really true. Since all of this is just for money sake I think they can script out the total fight.
May be Tyson would also get a few punches on his face from Logan if that's on the script. What do you think ?
Will they go to such extent that they might script the whole fight or will Tyson keep his dignity and not lose it for money.

I think Mike still has his pride, some have stated that fights like this can ruin the legacy of a fighter and personally I do not believe so, however if the fight was scripted as you say I really think that is one of the few ways in which Mike could ruin his status as a professional boxer and a legend.

If he wants to do this for charity or because he needs the money or just because he misses being above the ring then that is fine, as long as the fight evolves within the rules of any fight then I have no problem with what happens above the ring even if he happens to lose, but a scripted fight is something that without a doubt the fans are not interested in watching at all.

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This match is arranged to get some easy money quickly and without much hassle I will be very surprised if we see a knockout or knockdown. Most likely the fight will end in a draw or by decision of the judges with Mike Tyson winning, as he needs to ensure his old age.

Also, I think it will be more of a show for the family, not a bloody fight. But I think Mike Tyson knows that if he wants to earn money from more fights like this, it must be something really cool. If we don't see a hard KO, I think a few strong hits will definitely land on Logan's head.

If that's the script then we will most likely witness that one, but actually, fans would want to see a KO especially on Logan, lol...... sorry, maybe he has a lot of haters while Tyson still got a lot of fans despite he retired in professional boxing a long time ago. If we think there's no KO, then maybe let's put a bet on the "draw", or "Tyson to win by decision".

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But even bookmakers estimate the probability of Tyson winning as 1.67. This is a very high coefficient for such a high-profile name, if these odds remain relevant until the start of the battle, then I will bet on Paul. I don't see any reason why Paul can't just run over Tyson (except for a knockout, but in boxing this is a common risk).

There are rumors that this is a contract fight and that Mike Tyson will get a lot of money if he fights Logan Paul. Maybe that's why we're not seeing any interest in regular training from Logan Paul. Maybe he already knows how this fight will end, so he doesn't want to waste any time on preparations. I think, that if before Iron Mike was interested in his career now he is only interested in money.

I should note that this is a perfectly rational desire at his age Cheesy

He inscribed his name in gold letters in the history of boxing, but unlike singers and writers, he is unlikely to receive much income from past merits, so there is nothing wrong with improving his situation. The only thing that worries me is that the fight is more or less fair and not orchestrated from start to finish.

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Seeing Logan’s behavior these days he definitely doesn’t appear to be getting ready for any fight. If this was a real thing being discussed it is clear the he isn’t taking the fight as seriously as his Mayweather bout. I think he’s getting tired of the boxing thing. I’m leaning towards this fight not happening and if it does happen I think Iron Mike kicks his ass.

But even bookmakers estimate the probability of Tyson winning as 1.67. This is a very high coefficient for such a high-profile name, if these odds remain relevant until the start of the battle, then I will bet on Paul. I don't see any reason why Paul can't just run over Tyson (except for a knockout, but in boxing this is a common risk).

There are rumors that this is a contract fight and that Mike Tyson will get a lot of money if he fights Logan Paul. Maybe that's why we're not seeing any interest in regular training from Logan Paul. Maybe he already knows how this fight will end, so he doesn't want to waste any time on preparations. I think, that if before Iron Mike was interested in his career now he is only interested in money.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 11, 2021, 09:26:47 PM

Seeing Logan’s behavior these days he definitely doesn’t appear to be getting ready for any fight. If this was a real thing being discussed it is clear the he isn’t taking the fight as seriously as his Mayweather bout. I think he’s getting tired of the boxing thing. I’m leaning towards this fight not happening and if it does happen I think Iron Mike kicks his ass.

But even bookmakers estimate the probability of Tyson winning as 1.67. This is a very high coefficient for such a high-profile name, if these odds remain relevant until the start of the battle, then I will bet on Paul. I don't see any reason why Paul can't just run over Tyson (except for a knockout, but in boxing this is a common risk).

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 11, 2021, 09:26:47 PM

Seeing Logan’s behavior these days he definitely doesn’t appear to be getting ready for any fight. If this was a real thing being discussed it is clear the he isn’t taking the fight as seriously as his Mayweather bout. I think he’s getting tired of the boxing thing. I’m leaning towards this fight not happening and if it does happen I think Iron Mike kicks his ass.

But he probably loss big money here if he doesn't push through with this fight?

Maybe he was really intimidated now that it was Mike Tyson that he is going to fight, but we all know that this is just exhibition fights so he might go with this one last time before "retiring" in this boxing exhibition thingy.

One last fight, one big money fight and that's it, he can probably sit for the next 5 years for all the money he earn for this exhibition fights.

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Seeing Logan’s behavior these days he definitely doesn’t appear to be getting ready for any fight. If this was a real thing being discussed it is clear the he isn’t taking the fight as seriously as his Mayweather bout. I think he’s getting tired of the boxing thing. I’m leaning towards this fight not happening and if it does happen I think Iron Mike kicks his ass.

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Quote from: STT on November 11, 2021, 07:59:52 PM

Is Tyson older now then when George Foreman came back and won to the surprise of everyone ? Maybe that should be the rule as to whether this is a fair or pointless fight, I think he can beat Logan at any age tbh, certainly I dont feel he is past it in that regard but Tyson is younger then Foreman even we probably should be giving him more leeway.

Yes, Foreman become the oldest heavyweight champion at age 45 years old. Tyson now is age 55, so that's a 10 year discrepancy.

But base on his last exhibition fight against Roy Jones, Tyson can still pull the trigger and has power behind it. That's why people are concern about this fight and maybe that's were the argument is coming from of this fight being manipulated or rigged to protect Logan Paul.

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Is Tyson older now then when George Foreman came back and won to the surprise of everyone ? Maybe that should be the rule as to whether this is a fair or pointless fight, I think he can beat Logan at any age tbh, certainly I dont feel he is past it in that regard but Tyson is younger then Foreman even we probably should be giving him more leeway.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 11, 2021, 05:44:08 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 11, 2021, 03:51:40 PM

Its expected that everything would really be having that script. Cheesy

Only a few expect that it's gonna be a scripted fight, but let me ask, what do you think would be the content on the script? I mean who will win in this fight and how the win would look like? I guess that's something we have to know so it's easier for us bettors to choose what kind of bet we will put in.

Knowing the script? They are the only ones who would knew that but for sure it would involved that it should really be a long lasting kind of fight on where it shouldn't really be finished on round 1
to make peoples money to be worth on the said show.

If something information could leak on then there would be no odds be given out for bettors to bet on which is something normal to think off.

Just wondering on how far the odds gaps would be on this said fight or wouldn't really be having any at all.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 11, 2021, 05:44:08 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 11, 2021, 03:51:40 PM

Its expected that everything would really be having that script. Cheesy

Only a few expect that it's gonna be a scripted fight, but let me ask, what do you think would be the content on the script? I mean who will win in this fight and how the win would look like? I guess that's something we have to know so it's easier for us bettors to choose what kind of bet we will put in.

May be the script everyone is talking about is that there will be no winner if the fight goes to the distance and both fighters will be given a draw since it is an exhibition fight. We have seen many exhibition fights now and anything that goes the distance is a draw and majority went to a draw and hence you can assume that they will run around till the final bell and that is what some of the bettors are thinking.

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