[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez Lightweight Unification fight - page 10.

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Teofimo Lopez is the best fighter for me with 15 wins without losses. In fact, they already have a career as a boxer in their blood and he inherited it from his parents that's why I believe in his ability because who is a parent who wants to hurt his son so much so obviously, that is impossible his father not to pour the hidden counterpunch.

But it doesn't mean that when your father is a good fighter, you'll also be good, they both have different journey they take and both in different times.
Maybe he is full of training and knowledge about boxing but that doesn't guarantee he will be successful.

Yes, Teofimo Lopez is undefeated, but Lomachenko in the eyes of the people is the better fighter.

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Teofimo Lopez is the best fighter for me with 15 wins without losses. In fact, they already have a career as a boxer in their blood and he inherited it from his parents that's why I believe in his ability because who is a parent who wants to hurt his son so much so obviously, that is impossible his father not to pour the hidden counterpunch.

Your argument is flawed, we have seen many boxers, father-and-son, and I would even say it's a common thing about boxers.

https://www.sportsbreak.com/boxing/the-12-best-father-and-son-boxing-duos/

So it's always like that not just in boxing but in any other sports as obviously, the parents are the first one to train their sons. But it doesn't mean that you can inherit your father's greatness in the ring, like Chavez Sr and Jr. Totally two different personality inside the ring.

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More on sponsors and advertisements

I understand this one, they will make money from advertisements as millions of people can watch this since it's free.

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plus the gambling industries.

However, I can seem to get what you mean that they will benefit from the gambling industry, in what way if you care to explain?

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Ok, good to hear that the fight is a go.

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“The whole world will see it and we will get more recognition when we beat Lomachenko, and that’s good for us,” Lopez Sr. said. “It’s going to be a beautiful fight between two great fighters doing the best that they can do to win.”

Lopez Sr. said they plan to sign the paperwork on Thursday.

“We came to an agreement,” McWater said. “The fight will take place later in October than Oct. 3 but we have a deal. It was a complicated deal but we made it. Arum and I have been talking and we finally got it done.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-lopez-deal-reached-october-team-lopez-pumped--150880

And probably Loma sacrifices $700k-$800k on his purse so that Lopez can get close to $2m which is what they are aiming for in this fight.

Yes, the revenue will come from advertisements and ESPN will make a lot of money from it.

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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

Due to social distancing the audiences would not be allowed in the event. More important for me the fight is happening and surely through advertising, rights, sponsorship etc the money would be made. There are different sources through which the money is made, and audiences are just one part of it which would be missing from this event.

More on sponsors and advertisements plus the gambling industries.

Promoters will not finalized the fight without the assurance of money, it's the very first thing from both
camp. They both agree for the price and with this announcement the deal was already settled.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2020, 08:24:41 PM

It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

Due to social distancing the audiences would not be allowed in the event. More important for me the fight is happening and surely through advertising, rights, sponsorship etc the money would be made. There are different sources through which the money is made, and audiences are just one part of it which would be missing from this event.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 13, 2020, 05:38:17 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2020, 08:24:41 PM

It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2020, 08:24:41 PM

It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2020, 08:24:41 PM

It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

Glad to hear that finally, the negotiations was a success, and Lopez will get what he is asking for. Loma is willing to have his pay cut so that this fight can push through and it looks like this what happened.

It will be move a week or two weeks on the original fight, so yes, around mid-October, we just have to wait for it and see how bookies are going to open the odds but for sure Loma will be the favourite here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 12, 2020, 05:16:43 PM

The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money. Sad

This is probably not just mere greed. There might be some lack of confidence in his camp. If the camp of Lopez is greedy, they should grab this huge opportunity.

Loma is the man of the hour. Having gotten the yes from him to face inside the ring is one hell of a chance. If this particular match does not give Lopez the payout he prefers, there's still so much of it after this match, but only if he wins it. And there's the uncertainty, which his camp is very much aware of. Money-wise or greed-wise, this career battle is one huge stepping stone for him in terms of revenue.

Imagine beating the legend, there would be much much bigger purses flowing in for him. And he's just turned 23. He'd be heavily milking this sport for even a decade more. But, again, only if he's confident enough to face Loma. Otherwise, all he'll provide are excuses, afraid that his loss to the older man will end his budding career.

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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 12, 2020, 05:16:43 PM

The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money. Sad

Winning this fight makes him better than Loma, therefore he can demand good offers in his next fight when depending the belt.
I don't know what's going on to their mind, they are given the opportunity but they are acting like they are the one making this fight interesting.
The kind has a potential, but the kind of attitude will not make him last in this boxing business.

Quote from: lebregone on August 12, 2020, 01:15:26 PM

I can't say that this will be an easy fight for Lomachenko, in boxing you should not underestimate your opponent even if you have more experience to
them because a young boxer will surely to do his best so he can create the best record in his career.

But I can see that Lomachenko will get the better odds for this upcoming fight if it will likely to happen and there will be no problem that will occur
to this match up.

Lomachenko is the favorite here, he got a better odds of winning but Lopez got better odds for betting.

Both fighters are really fun to watch, this should not be a boring fight I believe.

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I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

I don't think that Arum would allow some compromise here, not in the pandemic when budget are tight. It's either Lopez accepts the money in the table and get the beating from Loma.

Yes, I would agree, but let's see who will be the first one to give in, Arum or Lopez camp.

Quote from: btc_angela on August 11, 2020, 05:40:40 PM

At least when it's over he has money to feed his family for more. Instead of fighting another B-fighter wherein he will more likely gets less than the Loma fight. Loma doesn't have a problem facing another fighter in Verdejo and still get close to $3 million.

The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money. Sad

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I can't say that this will be an easy fight for Lomachenko, in boxing you should not underestimate your opponent even if you have more experience to
them because a young boxer will surely to do his best so he can create the best record in his career.

But I can see that Lomachenko will get the better odds for this upcoming fight if it will likely to happen and there will be no problem that will occur
to this match up.

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I really don't get the argument of Lopez and his team, really out of perspective to be honest.

They are saying that Arum give Shakur Stevenson like $300k-$400k in his last fight. Do their team really need to compare what other boxers are getting? If that is the case then $1 million is bigger that Shakur purse so what's the big deal?

I don't think its all about the money, maybe his team doesn't want to face Loma at all, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 11, 2020, 05:22:07 PM

I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

I don't think that Arum would allow some compromise here, not in the pandemic when budget are tight. It's either Lopez accepts the money in the table and get the beating from Loma.

At least when it's over he has money to feed his family for more. Instead of fighting another B-fighter wherein he will more likely gets less than the Loma fight. Loma doesn't have a problem facing another fighter in Verdejo and still get close to $3 million.

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I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 11, 2020, 07:21:40 AM

I also got the news on my social media feed that Loma is taking a pay cut for this fight so that this will push through but it disappear when i'm trying to look at it again, so maybe that's a fake news.

But i'm hoping that was true so that this fight will push through as plan and we could see how Loma will destroy Lopez so that he will realized that he is not worth the price he is asking.

Of course, this fight will gonna happen this October since the other games are adapting to these new rules, Boxing match won't have a problem with that as well. the only chance this fight would not happen is maybe because one of the boxers will change mind and we know that would not be the case with these boxers. You can see more about the match here:

https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-lopez/

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