[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez Lightweight Unification fight - page 14.

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Quote from: Sadlife on July 16, 2020, 09:25:00 AM

Im hoping for him to fight much more popular boxers like The tank or manny pacquiao before retiring. It would be a waste if he just retire like that. Especially when manny is looking for opponents right now, if ever they fight it would go down in history as one of the best top boxers of the world competiting against each other.

Like you said, this fight is easy. So its better to pick fighters at his level.

Loma vs Pacman won't happen IMO because Loma is fighting 3 2 division south of 147lbs which Manny is campaigning and this time in their career i think catch weight is not advisable.

Loma vs Davis or Loma vs Garcia would be explosive but Loma needs to focus first on Lopez and not take him for granted. In boxing, it would be stupid to think that you are going to an easy fight as there's no such thing as an easy fight.

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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite.

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

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This is so true and i do rather see this generally as a business rather than a sport. Cheesy

No one in the right mind would really reject fights that will fill out their pockets and

on the current popularity of Lomanchenko its too early to say or this guy doesnt even know the word "retirement". He can still fight and make some money.

Is this Lomachenko vs Lopez had been finalized?

There are a lot of popular boxers right now, young and has a good record, for example, Terence Crawford, he is an undefeated fighter, he could challenge someone that is young like Thurman or any boxer that could match him, but why would he like Manny? I am not saying Manny can't win but actually this guy's purpose is just some popularity as anyone who fight Manny makes money.

Terence Crawford still wants Manny Pacquiao, but not sure fight can be made

In the end, it's the promoter who decides the fight for a fighter, a fighter is just a warrior, he should not choose.

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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

Or unless their managers or boxing promoters are willing to take the chance to also have their profit cut in half.

Quote from: DarkDays on July 15, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

Everyone wants to fight Loma simply because it's a money fight, not sure Teofimo will want it given that he's not going to rack up as much cash as he would if he just delays it a few months.

He is the cash cow right now in the lower weights division.

Quote from: DarkDays on July 15, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

I think Loma will probably fight some scrub whose willing to take a smaller payday just to get rekt in front of no audience, and then they'll build up the hype for the Lopez fight for Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

We will see, but I agree that he will toy with this kid.

Trainers and promoters usually take a 10% purse cut each MAX. I think even if they earned $0, the fighters still wouldn't be looking to fight when the purse cut is likely to be around 50% or more. As far as I'm aware live tickets bring in more than half of the total revenue.

Lopez better hope that Lomachenko catches COVID19 and it fucks his lung capacity, that's about the only way he stands anything more than a puncher's chance.

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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

Arum might have underestimated the power of PPV, these two fighters are going the fans a good fight to see, so I guess even if they'll increase the PPV subscription, a lot of people would still be interested watching the fight, including me of course.

It might not really be the same if we do compare it off with actual stadium ticket sales or physical venues out there but doesnt mean that PPV would really be underestimated when it comes to generated amount.
Pretty sure that they will set out higher than usual price because of the current pandemic situation we are in but they should set it out on where the public or masses wont complaint about.When it comes to interest
then its still their and its just normal for promoters to aim on making money since this had been already a business since from the start. No matter which method they do make use as long it would resume out
then money would follow along the way.

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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

Arum might have underestimated the power of PPV, these two fighters are going the fans a good fight to see, so I guess even if they'll increase the PPV subscription, a lot of people would still be interested watching the fight, including me of course.

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Quote from: yazher on July 16, 2020, 08:25:20 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

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Quote from: Lan75 on January 10, 2020, 04:22:43 AM

The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Im hoping for him to fight much more popular boxers like The tank or manny pacquiao before retiring. It would be a waste if he just retire like that. Especially when manny is looking for opponents right now, if ever they fight it would go down in history as one of the best top boxers of the world competiting against each other.

Like you said, this fight is easy. So its better to pick fighters at his level.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 16, 2020, 01:20:28 AM

Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

Thanks for sharing, The man is really amazing and the way he fight the dominance are there, very quick hands and the aimed
or reached really pointing to the directions that he wanted to land the punch, seems
that seeing Pacman's punch where the opponents unexpectedly coming, there are
many fighter but the style and quickness of throwing punches that's really a talent
that keeps on developing inside you.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 16, 2020, 01:20:28 AM

Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

I have watched some of his fights and I consider him to be one of the best fighters of this generation, I expect a win against Lopez but he should be careful on the Lopez's punch he is a counter puncher and can knock opponents out with one solid punch, but the one fight I'd like to see is the Ryan Garcia fight Garcia is blazing through greatness right now and I believe Lomachenko is the one fighter that can stop him.

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Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

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He will certainly be able to beat Lopez but has been postponed for some time due to the virus. Boxing is the first fight between two athletes held in the ring. The boxing should be in special soft gloves weighing 8 ounces about 227 grams hitting the opponent's head and body in front and side.

Oliver Kirk USA is the only boxer to have won two Olympic champion gold medals in the same event the third Olympic Games in the featherweight and lightweight division in 1984 Under the rules of these years a boxer was allowed to compete in two adjacent weight categories together provided that his weight did not exceed that. Now this rule does not exist and the credit of O Kirk will remain the only one.

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The Lomachenko versus Lopez fighting schedule is scheduled for May 30 at Madison Square Garden, New York, which has to be postponed
due to the spread corona virus. Finally retreated until September 19, but Bob Arum again announced the fighting over Lomachenko versus
Lopez there is a possibility of being postponed again until October 3 and hopes to be held in Las Vegas. So until now I am still confused,
the exact schedule of Lomachenko versus Lopez's battle. Let's wait for the official new updates, which are definitely the two top rank boxers
this is awaited by boxing fans all over the world. I, as a Lomachenko fan, hope he can defeat Lopez.

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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite.

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

Pound-for-pound rankings

This is so true and i do rather see this generally as a business rather than a sport. Cheesy

No one in the right mind would really reject fights that will fill out their pockets and

on the current popularity of Lomanchenko its too early to say or this guy doesnt even know the word "retirement". He can still fight and make some money.

Is this Lomachenko vs Lopez had been finalized?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite.

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

Pound-for-pound rankings

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite.

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Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

We never know, at age 32 though it looks old at that age but we have Manny who still fights at 40, and Loma is just focus on his division so I think if he has a good conditioning, he can still have more fights, not necessarily that he wins it all.

It's hard for Loma to replicate Pacman's achievement as the guy is a Legendary already but Loma if he has the discipline like Manny, he can still fight even at that age and can still beat the younger fighter, actually, Loma is a sensational boxer that's why he gained a lot of fans, so selling his fight should not be a problem and he can continue to make money as long as he continues to take care of himself.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:10 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on July 15, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

We never know, at age 32 though it looks old at that age but we have Manny who still fights at 40, and Loma is just focus on his division so I think if he has a good conditioning, he can still have more fights, not necessarily that he wins it all.

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 15, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

Quote from: DarkDays on July 15, 2020, 01:56:52 PM

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next

. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.

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