[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez Lightweight Unification fight - page 11.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 11, 2020, 03:00:14 AM

Quote from: verita1 on August 10, 2020, 09:26:43 PM

Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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Bob Arum Praises Vasiliy Lomachenko During Teofimo Lopez Fight Negotiations: "He Voluntarily Reduced His Own Purse in Order To Get The Fight Done".

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

I was so hype about this news, however, when I click, there's no link in it. Try to look for other source, and as of the latest on the site that you have given,

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-in-jeopardy-due-to-money-demands/

So it is still a no-go. And maybe that's why it was deleted in the first place because it is just a rumour.

I also got the news on my social media feed that Loma is taking a pay cut for this fight so that this will push through but it disappear when i'm trying to look at it again, so maybe that's a fake news.

But i'm hoping that was true so that this fight will push through as plan and we could see how Loma will destroy Lopez so that he will realized that he is not worth the price he is asking.

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Quote from: verita1 on August 10, 2020, 09:26:43 PM

Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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Bob Arum Praises Vasiliy Lomachenko During Teofimo Lopez Fight Negotiations: "He Voluntarily Reduced His Own Purse in Order To Get The Fight Done".

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

I was so hype about this news, however, when I click, there's no link in it. Try to look for other source, and as of the latest on the site that you have given,

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-in-jeopardy-due-to-money-demands/

So it is still a no-go. And maybe that's why it was deleted in the first place because it is just a rumour.

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Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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Bob Arum Praises Vasiliy Lomachenko During Teofimo Lopez Fight Negotiations: "He Voluntarily Reduced His Own Purse in Order To Get The Fight Done".

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 07, 2020, 04:39:11 PM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 07, 2020, 02:59:00 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2020, 02:49:39 PM

So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
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I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Felix Verdejo had a lot of hype around him back then, very quick hands, but since his lost to an unknown Antonio Lozada Torres two years ago, Verdejo's stock goes down. Still a good match in paper, and it will be a cherry pick fight for Loma if the Lopez fight didn't materialised. And another all-in-house money for Top Rank.

Yes, perhaps this is already their plan B after all if the Teofimo Lopez fight failed. And all the blame will obviously go to Lopez here. It will be hard to negotiate as Davis will have Leo and maybe Haney will also ask for more money. Safe to say that this will be just another get busy fight for Loma before Top Rank look for more name foes in the future and I'm sure Lopez will not be the priority if he let this opportunity pass with his demand for more money.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 07, 2020, 02:59:00 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2020, 02:49:39 PM

So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
[]

I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Felix Verdejo had a lot of hype around him back then, very quick hands, but since his lost to an unknown Antonio Lozada Torres two years ago, Verdejo's stock goes down. Still a good match in paper, and it will be a cherry pick fight for Loma if the Lopez fight didn't materialised. And another all-in-house money for Top Rank.

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It is so good to see that the topics in the forum has been this diverse and complex. As many say, this fight would be a matter of youth energy against senior experience. Although, it crossed my mind f these fights requiring physical contacts would be allowed to take place during this time.

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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.

I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck.

Well, definitely he should demand a better paycheck. Imagine $1.2 million only for that huge fight event? Besides he already has the net worth that may require him of a better paycheck. IF all were deducted he will be left at around 30% to 40% of that amount or possibly less. It is a big fight of his career and he is sure that the money generated of that fight will be huge since he is fighting Lomachenko so it is fair to demand more.

But the problem is that he is the one calling Loma in the past, so for me, regardless of what the amount is, he should accept it because it seems that he wanted to prove something by fighting the best in his decision. So it's doesn't make sense that he will suddenly reverse his decision and wanted more money. And remember that Loma is more famous than him, so definitely will get the biggest share of the purse. Let's see, we do hope that they can re-negotiate and at least get what he thinks he deserves.

Agree with you, Loma can sell his fight with any opponent as people will buy a PPV to watch him, so Lopez does not need to demand, instead, he will wait for his time that he will be the one to give an offer to his opponent.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 07, 2020, 02:59:00 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2020, 02:49:39 PM

So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
[]

I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Jesus, I'd rather see Lopez get a ridiculous pay day than see Loma fight this random...

There's no tension in seeing Lomachenko fight some ranked 22 guy who has already been knocked out cold by someone far below Loma's caliber.

Devin Haney would be a good matchup. He seems genuinely willing to fight Loma even for a bad split. He actually has just as much chance as Lopez or Tank Davis too. He's not currently locked into a fight either, so it's the perfect candidate.

Everybody talks tough saying they want to fight X, Y, and Z at the top of the game, but they never talk about how they want an epic payoff to do so.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 07, 2020, 07:52:12 AM

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 07, 2020, 03:13:26 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 02, 2020, 07:29:58 AM

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.

LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.

Not only that, but the opportunity is already here, why wasted and asked for more money when you are not the superstar, or as what we term, the B-side. 70-30 split will be find, if he gets knock out or being toyed around by Lomachenko then it's fine, at least you get a cool million for doing that.

Lopez is still young and maybe that's why he thinks that he is in top of the division, when clearly Loma has been dominating and has far faces better opposition.

Lopez is no doubt a good fight but he is greedy in this one, he ask for this fight and now that he already got this, he wants a better share, I think that's not fair. If he really believe on himself and wants to make more money, maybe bet on himself in this fight, he is the underdog, he will get better return, that if it's possible.

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Quote from: Kasabus on August 07, 2020, 06:05:04 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 07, 2020, 03:13:26 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 02, 2020, 07:29:58 AM

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.

LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.

Not only that, but the opportunity is already here, why wasted and asked for more money when you are not the superstar, or as what we term, the B-side. 70-30 split will be find, if he gets knock out or being toyed around by Lomachenko then it's fine, at least you get a cool million for doing that.

Lopez is still young and maybe that's why he thinks that he is in top of the division, when clearly Loma has been dominating and has far faces better opposition.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 07, 2020, 03:13:26 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 02, 2020, 07:29:58 AM

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.

LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 02, 2020, 07:29:58 AM

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.

LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 06, 2020, 02:23:35 PM

That's called business.

The fight needs more attentions so promoters will get the money that they've aiming
this so called negotiations might just a part of free advertisement to bring the attention
of the people who love watching and betting to this sport.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, that is not business, as explain by @DarkDays, Lopez doesn't have any control and remember that there will be no live gates here, his lucky if the fight goes to PPV because I think ESPN is still thinking about that. So there's no need for him to hype the fight in public and bring some attention. Casual and hardcore fans are all aware how great Loma is, but Lopez? I don't think that some fans really know him as a fighter except that he is calling Loma and then back out at the last minute.

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Quote from: DarkDays on August 06, 2020, 02:49:39 PM

So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
[]

I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.

Lopez is by far the B side. Sure, he's got a good resumé, but it's not like Lomachenko's.

I think a 70/30 split, or BEST CASE scenario 60/40 split favoring Loma is fair. Lopez has ONE FUCKING belt and this is his first defense, Loma has THREE....

I hope Lopez prices himself out so we can see Loma fight Gervonta Davis instead.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 06, 2020, 01:32:48 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on August 06, 2020, 07:29:08 AM

And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
@TeofimoLopez
The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

Lopez doesn't have the bargaining power in the table, he and his team should understand that. For sure, when they announce the fight, they have at least some verbal agreement already and that only their signatures are needed before they officially announce it. So I don't believed that there are negotiations happening. He is just delaying it and will not get the money that he wanted in my opinion.

That's called business.

The fight needs more attentions so promoters will get the money that they've aiming
this so called negotiations might just a part of free advertisement to bring the attention
of the people who love watching and betting to this sport.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 06, 2020, 07:29:08 AM

And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
@TeofimoLopez
The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

Lopez doesn't have the bargaining power in the table, he and his team should understand that. For sure, when they announce the fight, they have at least some verbal agreement already and that only their signatures are needed before they officially announce it. So I don't believed that there are negotiations happening. He is just delaying it and will not get the money that he wanted in my opinion.

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And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
@TeofimoLopez
The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 01, 2020, 08:29:42 PM

What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

WTF...

I remember Juan Manuel Marquez doing the same act when he ask more money for a rematch with Manny Pacquiao and Bob Arum refused and the former ending up fighting in Indonesia for a 30K USD purse against Chrish John, correct me if i'm wrong here.

We are in the pandemic and this fight will have no crowd so Lopez' camp should understand that the revenue for this would not be huge. Wrong move on Lopez as this might self-destruct his career. Show first what he've got and everything will follow just like Pacman.

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We explained to them we have no gate [revenue], no closed-circuit [revenue],” Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday. “I mean, we’re willing to pay him a big price, but again, I’m not going to lose millions of dollars on an event because he thinks he’s worth more.”

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 01, 2020, 08:29:42 PM

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.

I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck.

Well, definitely he should demand a better paycheck. Imagine $1.2 million only for that huge fight event? Besides he already has the net worth that may require him of a better paycheck. IF all were deducted he will be left at around 30% to 40% of that amount or possibly less. It is a big fight of his career and he is sure that the money generated of that fight will be huge since he is fighting Lomachenko so it is fair to demand more.

But the problem is that he is the one calling Loma in the past, so for me, regardless of what the amount is, he should accept it because it seems that he wanted to prove something by fighting the best in his decision. So it's doesn't make sense that he will suddenly reverse his decision and wanted more money. And remember that Loma is more famous than him, so definitely will get the biggest share of the purse. Let's see, we do hope that they can re-negotiate and at least get what he thinks he deserves.

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