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More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer.

I think that's not what's on the mind of most fans. What we're thinking is about having a fight with an MMA fighter through boxing and not going to enter an MMA fight.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics.

This has to be expected. He's already mentioned his retirement and it seems that he'll be making more money easy and clean through exhibition matches without the need to be pressured by protecting or breaking a title.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

It will be a tough negotiation if it's with Money, he don't want to get any loss even if it's goin to be an exhibition match with Manny.

Yes, just like what Mayweather did in the past years where he fought McGregor. The fight was held in the ring and not in the octagon, it will be a mismatch for sure if a boxer will fight an MMA fighter in the octagon because the boxer is not accustomed fighting like the MMA fighter does, whereas if the MMA fighter will fight the boxer in the ring, there's a good chance because the fight is somehow fair than the opposite.

For sure Manny Pacquiao was already courted by a number of combat organizations but he chose RIZIN, maybe he saw some good advantage why he chose RIZIN and I know there's a good reason behind it. We just don't know, I guess we will know it soon.

Choosing something a promoter or he had been chosen by them and turns out that he had been deal up or been offered with some good terms and amounts or something like that which they are really
be able to make out those agreements, no one really knows but of course it would be part of the business.

Speaking about cross sports on those exhibition fights then the ones who are really that specializes on it or on a particular sports would be have the advantage and its
true if these things turns out to be fighting on MMA terms or rules then we would really be seeing different outcome which it isnt surprising.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer.

I think that's not what's on the mind of most fans. What we're thinking is about having a fight with an MMA fighter through boxing and not going to enter an MMA fight.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics.

This has to be expected. He's already mentioned his retirement and it seems that he'll be making more money easy and clean through exhibition matches without the need to be pressured by protecting or breaking a title.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

It will be a tough negotiation if it's with Money, he don't want to get any loss even if it's goin to be an exhibition match with Manny.

Yes, just like what Mayweather did in the past years where he fought McGregor. The fight was held in the ring and not in the octagon, it will be a mismatch for sure if a boxer will fight an MMA fighter in the octagon because the boxer is not accustomed fighting like the MMA fighter does, whereas if the MMA fighter will fight the boxer in the ring, there's a good chance because the fight is somehow fair than the opposite.

For sure Manny Pacquiao was already courted by a number of combat organizations but he chose RIZIN, maybe he saw some good advantage why he chose RIZIN and I know there's a good reason behind it. We just don't know, I guess we will know it soon.

Probably this could be one reason,

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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons hinted in a recent conversation with The Ring that Pacquiao could eventually appear on the same card with his son, amateur boxer Emmanuel Pacquiao Jr.

https://www.ringtv.com/648023-manny-pacquiao-announces-deal-with-mma-promotion-rizin-for-exhibition-bout/

We all know that Jr is also fighting in amateur, but as of this early, he was very different from his father. His first amateur fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THXobeUkB0U

I think we can say that probably it was all about the money, maybe Rizin offered Manny millions to sign under him and most likely December again we will see him fight in Japan as it is a traditional for the company to have fights in December like what Floyd did in the last couple of years, although I don't think that Floyd sign with Rizin though.

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Quote from: livingfree on January 06, 2023, 11:47:05 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer.

I think that's not what's on the mind of most fans. What we're thinking is about having a fight with an MMA fighter through boxing and not going to enter an MMA fight.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics.

This has to be expected. He's already mentioned his retirement and it seems that he'll be making more money easy and clean through exhibition matches without the need to be pressured by protecting or breaking a title.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

It will be a tough negotiation if it's with Money, he don't want to get any loss even if it's goin to be an exhibition match with Manny.

Yes, just like what Mayweather did in the past years where he fought McGregor. The fight was held in the ring and not in the octagon, it will be a mismatch for sure if a boxer will fight an MMA fighter in the octagon because the boxer is not accustomed fighting like the MMA fighter does, whereas if the MMA fighter will fight the boxer in the ring, there's a good chance because the fight is somehow fair than the opposite.

For sure Manny Pacquiao was already courted by a number of combat organizations but he chose RIZIN, maybe he saw some good advantage why he chose RIZIN and I know there's a good reason behind it. We just don't know, I guess we will know it soon.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer. So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics. Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

Yes, I think it's obvious that Pacquiao is not going to pro fights or involved in any MMA fight, stick to boxing exhibition match and probably 1 or 2 fights per year might not be bad afterall for the pledging politician.

It will be good if Rizin can setup a massive fight between Floyd and Manny, and it's up to Floyd though, perhaps if the money is there then probably he will be enticed to get back in the ring with money. Its just how much money is involved here? $100m? or even as high as $300m?

Manny is stick to boxing and I Think he will not enter. The World of MMA and also he will think it because once he fight in MMA he need to trained harder so that he can win. About the exhibition ga maybe you will all right as we all know that manny has getting older and once he plays in exhibition game he will not getting nervous as we all know that during exhibition game relax and don't have an effort then that's okay unlike in title game that you will be mining to win to protect or steal the championship or the title.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer.

I think that's not what's on the mind of most fans. What we're thinking is about having a fight with an MMA fighter through boxing and not going to enter an MMA fight.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics.

This has to be expected. He's already mentioned his retirement and it seems that he'll be making more money easy and clean through exhibition matches without the need to be pressured by protecting or breaking a title.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

It will be a tough negotiation if it's with Money, he don't want to get any loss even if it's goin to be an exhibition match with Manny.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 04, 2023, 03:19:34 AM

Damn Pacman is still up to make noise in MMA! Can't imagine how much would Pacman's contract will be for Rizin. He is paid more than 100 million of USD in each boxing match, I doubt Dana white can afford him, and least of all RIZIN which is just in Japan. Who is he fighting?

If Logan is still up to it and can still face the public despite thier scams, I think Pacman will fight either Logan.

Fair point. Dana White's UFC can really afford Pacquiao at a much higher rate where the latter can have more millions of guaranteed money that what RIZIN can do because the platform was just specifically in Japan and not a worldwide based arena like UFC. But we all know that Dana White is not that fan when it comes to exhibition fights where his fighters are going to climb into Pacquiao's comfortable zone. Dana White can seriously organize a fight like that but that's just not his ground because his focus is an octagon fight, which explains why he's not that happy when McGregor fought Mayweather in the ring.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 10:30:27 PM

More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer. So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics. Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

Yes, I think it's obvious that Pacquiao is not going to pro fights or involved in any MMA fight, stick to boxing exhibition match and probably 1 or 2 fights per year might not be bad afterall for the pledging politician.

It will be good if Rizin can setup a massive fight between Floyd and Manny, and it's up to Floyd though, perhaps if the money is there then probably he will be enticed to get back in the ring with money. Its just how much money is involved here? $100m? or even as high as $300m?

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More details are emerging on the deal between RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao. He will not be involved in any MMA fights. Pacquiao will stick to boxing and the deal calls for one exhibition match with an unknown opponent sometime in summer. So he is not returning to professional boxing and I guess he wants to get quick bucks from one or two exhibition matches before he decides to fully concentrate in politics. Sources at RIZIN claim that they are trying to get a match between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Pacquiao may be OK with it, but Floyd has so far rejected any such proposals.

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I am a bit confused here. I thought that Manny Pacquiao retired from professional sports after his loss to Yordenis Ugás. He announced his retirement on 29th September 2021. After that he has been involved in exhibition matches, but has refrained from professional fights. So the new contract with RIZIN means that he will return to professional sports? Isn't he a bit too old for that? And also, RIZIN mostly concentrates on MMA, but so far Pacquiao has given no indication that he will try his luck with that particular sport. It's really confusing.

I'm not surprised though, his camp already said that DK Yoo will be their test subject on whether or not Pacquiao needs to continue his boxing career. However, Rizin being mostly MMA promotion, I think Manny will use this to have more exhibition matches against MMA fighters. It could not only mean that his back on professional boxing matches. But who knows, let's see what his next moves are.

I do have in mind that once a boxer do make out some retirement then they wont really be able to come back but i was wrong.LOL
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-who-are-the-boxers-who-came-back-to-fight-again-after-retirement/

So there are actually boxers who had retired and made out some come back but as expected the results arent really that goes to plan.
So there are probabilities that Pacquiao would be going back too?

Hype still on the side of Pacquaio and if he decide to go back for sure there are still promoter that willing to give him big fights. But I doubt he can be as fast as we see the young Pac man since we all know that he's old already. But its really better for him not to go back since he's legacy is already sealed and there's nothing to prove to anyone anymore, health is important especially he's already 44 years old.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 04, 2023, 05:09:03 PM

I'm not surprised though, his camp already said that DK Yoo will be their test subject on whether or not Pacquiao needs to continue his boxing career. However, Rizin being mostly MMA promotion, I think Manny will use this to have more exhibition matches against MMA fighters. It could not only mean that his back on professional boxing matches. But who knows, let's see what his next moves are.

If that's the niche of RIZIN, honestly what came to my mind are the Paul brothers. They're known for that type of exhibition matches that they'll have the match in the sport of boxing even if their opponent is from another expertise of sport like MMA/UFC.

That's really what I've thought of quickly if this is going to be the niche of exhibition matches of Pacquiao.

But hopefully, it's not.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 03, 2023, 09:35:59 PM

I am a bit confused here. I thought that Manny Pacquiao retired from professional sports after his loss to Yordenis Ugás. He announced his retirement on 29th September 2021. After that he has been involved in exhibition matches, but has refrained from professional fights. So the new contract with RIZIN means that he will return to professional sports? Isn't he a bit too old for that? And also, RIZIN mostly concentrates on MMA, but so far Pacquiao has given no indication that he will try his luck with that particular sport. It's really confusing.

I'm not surprised though, his camp already said that DK Yoo will be their test subject on whether or not Pacquiao needs to continue his boxing career. However, Rizin being mostly MMA promotion, I think Manny will use this to have more exhibition matches against MMA fighters. It could not only mean that his back on professional boxing matches. But who knows, let's see what his next moves are.

I do have in mind that once a boxer do make out some retirement then they wont really be able to come back but i was wrong.LOL
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-who-are-the-boxers-who-came-back-to-fight-again-after-retirement/

So there are actually boxers who had retired and made out some come back but as expected the results arent really that goes to plan.
So there are probabilities that Pacquiao would be going back too?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 03, 2023, 09:35:59 PM

I am a bit confused here. I thought that Manny Pacquiao retired from professional sports after his loss to Yordenis Ugás. He announced his retirement on 29th September 2021. After that he has been involved in exhibition matches, but has refrained from professional fights. So the new contract with RIZIN means that he will return to professional sports? Isn't he a bit too old for that? And also, RIZIN mostly concentrates on MMA, but so far Pacquiao has given no indication that he will try his luck with that particular sport. It's really confusing.

I'm not surprised though, his camp already said that DK Yoo will be their test subject on whether or not Pacquiao needs to continue his boxing career. However, Rizin being mostly MMA promotion, I think Manny will use this to have more exhibition matches against MMA fighters. It could not only mean that his back on professional boxing matches. But who knows, let's see what his next moves are.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 04, 2023, 04:26:19 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 04, 2023, 03:45:49 PM

The promoter does matters IMHO. If they've got an established name already, that's much better and Manny won't just sign in to a small promoter that's not even known yet.
That's why it's an important notion for someone like him to know the promoter first before signing in. Even he's just trying to enjoy his retirement and trying to have some exhibition matches, I think that he's still get to pick the best promoter that offers decent deals.

Yes, you do actually have the point but arent these things to be standard and just common sense? Of course you would really be that sticking into those known or big promoters rather than going into those unknown or

small ones since he's not dumb on dealing with things which cant really be helpful on generating or arranging possible good exhibition fights.Its true that even he's that retired then he would be still
finding the best options on which he could able to make money or able to maximize whether those winnings could be pocketed by him solely or would be sticking into that
charity fights that he had been doing recently.

You're right.
Since this thread is about Pacquiao and DK Yoo, I think we should move forward to the next potential matches of Pacquiao. There is this news that I've seen but it's not an official one but just an analyst's opinion.
(https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/856329/pacquiao-vs-crawford-could-happen-in-2023-analyst-believes/story/)

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Quote from: blockman on January 03, 2023, 05:20:53 PM

That means that we're likely to see exhibition matches coming from RIZIN promotions athletes that have also signed for them. For those that know the background of the promoter and its athletes, I guess you're not going to expect a lot from it.
But those fans that don't look at that side, it's just all about having fun and watching Pacquiao having a match with whoever's set to fight him and that's everything to all of those fans that just want to be there to watch him box.

Doesnt matter on whose the promoter or whatever who do get in line with Pacquiaos exhibition fight then it would be surely be watched considering that he had lots of fans worldwide which it is really that expected
to look for those certain fights. Common sense thing that they wont really be arranging these type of fights if there werent viewers or demand.If Pacquiao's 1st exhibition match turns out to be successful or he
did really purse out some considerable amounts then why not on making another one?

Despite of being already retired, he could still pull off some good fights even if it needs to match up with fellow boxers which i do see to be interesting than into those non.

The promoter does matters IMHO. If they've got an established name already, that's much better and Manny won't just sign in to a small promoter that's not even known yet.
That's why it's an important notion for someone like him to know the promoter first before signing in. Even he's just trying to enjoy his retirement and trying to have some exhibition matches, I think that he's still get to pick the best promoter that offers decent deals.

Yes, you do actually have the point but arent these things to be standard and just common sense? Of course you would really be that sticking into those known or big promoters rather than going into those unknown or

small ones since he's not dumb on dealing with things which cant really be helpful on generating or arranging possible good exhibition fights.Its true that even he's that retired then he would be still
finding the best options on which he could able to make money or able to maximize whether those winnings could be pocketed by him solely or would be sticking into that
charity fights that he had been doing recently.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 03, 2023, 06:30:49 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 03, 2023, 05:20:53 PM

That means that we're likely to see exhibition matches coming from RIZIN promotions athletes that have also signed for them. For those that know the background of the promoter and its athletes, I guess you're not going to expect a lot from it.
But those fans that don't look at that side, it's just all about having fun and watching Pacquiao having a match with whoever's set to fight him and that's everything to all of those fans that just want to be there to watch him box.

Doesnt matter on whose the promoter or whatever who do get in line with Pacquiaos exhibition fight then it would be surely be watched considering that he had lots of fans worldwide which it is really that expected
to look for those certain fights. Common sense thing that they wont really be arranging these type of fights if there werent viewers or demand.If Pacquiao's 1st exhibition match turns out to be successful or he
did really purse out some considerable amounts then why not on making another one?

Despite of being already retired, he could still pull off some good fights even if it needs to match up with fellow boxers which i do see to be interesting than into those non.

The promoter does matters IMHO. If they've got an established name already, that's much better and Manny won't just sign in to a small promoter that's not even known yet.
That's why it's an important notion for someone like him to know the promoter first before signing in. Even he's just trying to enjoy his retirement and trying to have some exhibition matches, I think that he's still get to pick the best promoter that offers decent deals.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 04, 2023, 07:24:57 AM

Maybe the octagon is not the right place for him but he will definitely play because that could be one of the reasons Rizin signed him, it's just that the match will be softer with the choice of opponents that won't give Pacman significant difficulties so that the match will not be much different from the exhibition match where the target is only Monetary, entertainment and promotion of MMA is to more popular in Japan and Asia

Pacman will be making his debut match for an exhibition match but the match announcement and his opponent have been kept under wraps right up until now, possibly him being matched against a standard ability opponent to increase Rizin following. I was very surprised that he had signed a contract with Rizin recently, would he have been prepared to fight for MMA skills, maybe he has been training hard for it for the last months.

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Damn Pacman is still up to make noise in MMA! Can't imagine how much would Pacman's contract will be for Rizin. He is paid more than 100 million of USD in each boxing match, I doubt Dana white can afford him, and least of all RIZIN which is just in Japan. Who is he fighting?

If Logan is still up to it and can still face the public despite thier scams, I think Pacman will fight either Logan.

it is His pride that makes Him stay away of Regular Boxing fight because of His retirement so now he might be moving to other areas when he can explore at the same time use His skills and ability specially in boxing.
though i don't think he will fit in MMA type of fight because I believe in octagon there are many skills that fighter needs to have than just to Box because there are grapling kicking that available in which I believe not his way .

Maybe the octagon is not the right place for him but he will definitely play because that could be one of the reasons Rizin signed him, it's just that the match will be softer with the choice of opponents that won't give Pacman significant difficulties so that the match will not be much different from the exhibition match where the target is only Monetary, entertainment and promotion of MMA is to more popular in Japan and Asia

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Don't worry mate because you are not alone in the confusion made by Manny Pacquiao's recent big move towards RIZIN.

In my knowledge, this RIZIN is a Japan based company that caters MMA and kickboxers like the Dana White's UFC. So, I'm thinking that Pacquiao might have an encounter in the future with their highest paid athletes to fight Pacquiao in the ring and generate Millions worth of revenue. I'm not sure though but that's the best speculation that I can think of. They should've give more details about this to clear up the people's confusion in this matter.

When they smell some honey, they will not hesitate to make some money and this is the trend nowadays because there are still lots of fans that are willing to watch those kinds of fights. They found the right thing to do without hurting both fighters too much like in real fights because they already trained to lighten their punches to avoid any unnecessary injuries. But the high payments are still there and this is the same reason why the likes of Manny Pacquiao still fight in the ring even though he is already past the age when most boxers retired from boxing.

The reason is fans still wanted Pacman inside the ring. Whatever deal behind it, there's huge money that will accompany this kind of movement
from Pacman, we know how business works when there is a huge amount of money that in stake.

Expect that the announcement will surround social medias to hype the upcoming possible fight of Pacman, we don't know yet what will be
the plan.

But surely expect the huge amount of money that will be involved in this contract.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 04, 2023, 03:19:34 AM

Damn Pacman is still up to make noise in MMA! Can't imagine how much would Pacman's contract will be for Rizin. He is paid more than 100 million of USD in each boxing match, I doubt Dana white can afford him, and least of all RIZIN which is just in Japan. Who is he fighting?

If Logan is still up to it and can still face the public despite thier scams, I think Pacman will fight either Logan.

it is His pride that makes Him stay away of Regular Boxing fight because of His retirement so now he might be moving to other areas when he can explore at the same time use His skills and ability specially in boxing.
though i don't think he will fit in MMA type of fight because I believe in octagon there are many skills that fighter needs to have than just to Box because there are grapling kicking that available in which I believe not his way .

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Damn Pacman is still up to make noise in MMA! Can't imagine how much would Pacman's contract will be for Rizin. He is paid more than 100 million of USD in each boxing match, I doubt Dana white can afford him, and least of all RIZIN which is just in Japan. Who is he fighting?

If Logan is still up to it and can still face the public despite thier scams, I think Pacman will fight either Logan.

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