[BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo - page 5.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on December 22, 2022, 02:15:43 PM

This is an embarassing exhibition fight for Manny in my opinion. Nevermind that he always show his A-Game everytimr he boxes, but the fact of the matter is that an elite boxer with so many titles and belts under his wing is so agreeing to fight an obscure YouTuber let alone someone who doesn't have boxing experience prior is what made the fans just throw a thumbs down on this one. At least with Jake and Mayweather we can accept that. The fact that Jake is a very successful star and influencer, with boxing experience to boot is what made the fight fun for the viewers. Manny vs. DK Yoo just looked like a one-sided after-school meet-me-behind-the-school battle.

Compare to Jake vs Mayweather, that's a pure exhibition match with no charity involved or something.

This exhibition fight between Pacquiao and DK Yoo does have a good purpose and you can search for where they will share part of their money.

As long as Manny will be involved in exhibition matches for a good reason and not just entertainment, should be no problem with that.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on December 22, 2022, 02:15:43 PM

This is an embarassing exhibition fight for Manny in my opinion. Nevermind that he always show his A-Game everytimr he boxes, but the fact of the matter is that an elite boxer with so many titles and belts under his wing is so agreeing to fight an obscure YouTuber let alone someone who doesn't have boxing experience prior is what made the fans just throw a thumbs down on this one. At least with Jake and Mayweather we can accept that. The fact that Jake is a very successful star and influencer, with boxing experience to boot is what made the fight fun for the viewers. Manny vs. DK Yoo just looked like a one-sided after-school meet-me-behind-the-school battle.

Just remember though that even the GOAT has a exhibition match, (or if you could consider it a exhibition match because Inoki kicks Ali so hard)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6JN8VQGy0

Some of may not born yet when fight happens hehehe.

Me as well thinks this is not good for Manny, but it is what it is, we are in the era of exhibition matches and he wanted to get his hands on it and experience this kind of fights. So we can't blame him and on the contrary he will have his second match in Saudi Arabia with his former sparring partner.

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This is an embarassing exhibition fight for Manny in my opinion. Nevermind that he always show his A-Game everytimr he boxes, but the fact of the matter is that an elite boxer with so many titles and belts under his wing is so agreeing to fight an obscure YouTuber let alone someone who doesn't have boxing experience prior is what made the fans just throw a thumbs down on this one. At least with Jake and Mayweather we can accept that. The fact that Jake is a very successful star and influencer, with boxing experience to boot is what made the fight fun for the viewers. Manny vs. DK Yoo just looked like a one-sided after-school meet-me-behind-the-school battle.

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But all things are really different if you have position on government because for sure your voice will be heard and you will get more funds to support your cause so I can't blame Pacquiao to get this ambition since maybe he really have huge vision to make a better Philippines. But his knowledge doesn't really fit to became a leader because he didn't prove anything yet especially on critical scenario which is the decision of president is really carefully needed.

Obviously, he got a big vision for the Philippines, and that's the reason why he run for President, unfortunately, he loses in the last election. Well, maybe he is not really meant to be a President, but he can still continue helping people in his own way, just like what he did in this fight, he donated all the proceeds to the charity.

Yes, that is already obvious. I can say that he already got a big heart for his countrymen even before he joined the politics in the Philippines because since he was already making name in the world of boxing, Manny Pacquiao is also giving constantly to the people who are need especially if there's some unprecedented calamities that will happen. But running for a president? He doesn't have to have the highest seat in the government to help his own people, he can do that even if he's already a private citizen, and that's also why he didn't won in the previous election because there's a lot of things that he needed to know first before he can consider himself to run in that office, having a big heart alone won't suffice.

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We're all agreeing that he should retire and I guess these show matches are his words for his retirement. He's not going to take any longer professional fights and that's a sign of his retirement just like Floyd Mayweather.
But, at the same time, he's still making huge money if there will be some exhibition matches that are not for a charity cause. That will surely still him bag a lot of money because he's still that popular and now a living legend.

Still there are rumors that Manny is still aiming for Spence or Crawford but Spence stated that he has no intention to fight Manny Pacquiao because he will be bashed either way. Win or lose against Manny, Spence thought that the fight won't make him more popular. He is basing his statement between the fight of Ali and Holmes. If we can recall Holmes beat Ali but the win cater to more bashing instead of appreciation. So Spence thinks that he surely can beat Manny but the win isn't worth it because people will just think that he (spence) just beat an old guy.

If there's no interest anymore from Spence then that's good for him that he has already said it first before fans tell that he should avoid Manny then.

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Making money would be the main target and its true that despite on being retired and on the time that they would be launching up some exhibition fights then they are really still been considered and thats the beauty
of being popular and legend on a certain sport where fans all over the world wouldn't really be forgetting on who you are and on the time that you do have some matches
then people would still simply tend to watch it out and purchase or having those ppv's or tickets on such venue.

Fans will never stop watching and supporting their hero of theirs in this sport and one of them is Manny Pacquiao, we all know about that and that's why it's still going to be sold out tickets and PPVs if any match is upcoming for him.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 22, 2022, 06:19:59 AM

Exhibitions fights are basically there for two reasons, as I understand it, the first reason is for marketing and PR purposes. Obviously every fighter has to keep up their own appearance in their social media as well as for whichever marketing team is helping them out in the news headlines. I am guessing that if they did not do this, then when the real fight starts, their audience will be much much smaller. And therefore they will make less money.

The second reason is to gauge their opponents strengths and weaknesses. Preparing them for a longer and harder fight.

Speaking of opponent, there is a rumor circling around that Manny Pacquiao will possibly meet Former Super Middle Champion Anthony Mundine in an exhibition fight. Mundine is two division heavier than Manny Pacquiao even though Mundine is 47 years old, we cannot deny the fact the remnant of the boxer's strength is still there besides their age isn't that far Manny being 44 years old. I think the match is just crazy. Mundine is too big for Manny, taller and longer in reach by 8 cm. Even thought it is only an exhibition fight and DK Yoo is much taller and bigger but DK Yoo isn't a real boxer unlike Mundine

They are currently in talk of the said possible exhibition fight.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11563815/Anthony-Mundine-talks-fight-boxing-legend-Manny-Pacquiao-Nedal-Hussein-not-impressed.html

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 20, 2022, 06:49:52 PM

helping poor people is not the only reason why you need to become a politician. there are more things you need to consider when you are in politics because you are guiding the future of your country. but in any case, pacquiao should be totally retiring from professional boxing bouts. great if he will arrange exhibition fights from time to time. but should not think of going active again. enjoy his retirement while he has no health issues.

We're all agreeing that he should retire and I guess these show matches are his words for his retirement. He's not going to take any longer professional fights and that's a sign of his retirement just like Floyd Mayweather.
But, at the same time, he's still making huge money if there will be some exhibition matches that are not for a charity cause. That will surely still him bag a lot of money because he's still that popular and now a living legend.

Making money would be the main target and its true that despite on being retired and on the time that they would be launching up some exhibition fights then they are really still been considered and thats the beauty
of being popular and legend on a certain sport where fans all over the world wouldn't really be forgetting on who you are and on the time that you do have some matches
then people would still simply tend to watch it out and purchase or having those ppv's or tickets on such venue.

That's why we call it an exhibition fight, they would not fight without benefiting from it, and the fact that they entertain the fans, means they are getting paid as well. Making money is just so easy for a popular icon like Manny Pacman, and whoever he fights next, whether he loses or wins, his popularity will still remain.

Exhibitions fights are basically there for two reasons, as I understand it, the first reason is for marketing and PR purposes. Obviously every fighter has to keep up their own appearance in their social media as well as for whichever marketing team is helping them out in the news headlines. I am guessing that if they did not do this, then when the real fight starts, their audience will be much much smaller. And therefore they will make less money.

The second reason is to gauge their opponents strengths and weaknesses. Preparing them for a longer and harder fight.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 20, 2022, 06:49:52 PM

helping poor people is not the only reason why you need to become a politician. there are more things you need to consider when you are in politics because you are guiding the future of your country. but in any case, pacquiao should be totally retiring from professional boxing bouts. great if he will arrange exhibition fights from time to time. but should not think of going active again. enjoy his retirement while he has no health issues.

We're all agreeing that he should retire and I guess these show matches are his words for his retirement. He's not going to take any longer professional fights and that's a sign of his retirement just like Floyd Mayweather.
But, at the same time, he's still making huge money if there will be some exhibition matches that are not for a charity cause. That will surely still him bag a lot of money because he's still that popular and now a living legend.

Making money would be the main target and its true that despite on being retired and on the time that they would be launching up some exhibition fights then they are really still been considered and thats the beauty
of being popular and legend on a certain sport where fans all over the world wouldn't really be forgetting on who you are and on the time that you do have some matches
then people would still simply tend to watch it out and purchase or having those ppv's or tickets on such venue.

That's why we call it an exhibition fight, they would not fight without benefiting from it, and the fact that they entertain the fans, means they are getting paid as well. Making money is just so easy for a popular icon like Manny Pacman, and whoever he fights next, whether he loses or wins, his popularity will still remain.

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Quote from: blockman on December 21, 2022, 05:54:43 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 20, 2022, 06:49:52 PM

helping poor people is not the only reason why you need to become a politician. there are more things you need to consider when you are in politics because you are guiding the future of your country. but in any case, pacquiao should be totally retiring from professional boxing bouts. great if he will arrange exhibition fights from time to time. but should not think of going active again. enjoy his retirement while he has no health issues.

We're all agreeing that he should retire and I guess these show matches are his words for his retirement. He's not going to take any longer professional fights and that's a sign of his retirement just like Floyd Mayweather.
But, at the same time, he's still making huge money if there will be some exhibition matches that are not for a charity cause. That will surely still him bag a lot of money because he's still that popular and now a living legend.

Still there are rumors that Manny is still aiming for Spence or Crawford but Spence stated that he has no intention to fight Manny Pacquiao because he will be bashed either way. Win or lose against Manny, Spence thought that the fight won't make him more popular. He is basing his statement between the fight of Ali and Holmes. If we can recall Holmes beat Ali but the win cater to more bashing instead of appreciation. So Spence thinks that he surely can beat Manny but the win isn't worth it because people will just think that he (spence) just beat an old guy.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 20, 2022, 06:49:52 PM

helping poor people is not the only reason why you need to become a politician. there are more things you need to consider when you are in politics because you are guiding the future of your country. but in any case, pacquiao should be totally retiring from professional boxing bouts. great if he will arrange exhibition fights from time to time. but should not think of going active again. enjoy his retirement while he has no health issues.

We're all agreeing that he should retire and I guess these show matches are his words for his retirement. He's not going to take any longer professional fights and that's a sign of his retirement just like Floyd Mayweather.
But, at the same time, he's still making huge money if there will be some exhibition matches that are not for a charity cause. That will surely still him bag a lot of money because he's still that popular and now a living legend.

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Quote from: erep on December 21, 2022, 04:04:30 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on December 21, 2022, 03:50:56 PM

Not to underestimate but it would really be hard to vote up into someone who doesnt really fit out on the said position specially when running an entire country.
We do know his good deeds and other doings but it wont really be just enough.

Many political parties recruit celebrities or athletes to involve them in candidacy for the highest positions because they have popularity from their careers and many followers, but many of them succeed in getting the highest vote polls but for regent or governor candidacy, but if the presidential candidacy will not be easy to get vote because the people will consider their abilities based on their knowledge of the state constitution, state administration and service to the country without giving priority to the desires of passions that undermine the people's trust in their leaders.

Therefore, we could really say that citizens of a certain country wont really be that dumb on voting or making a boxer as their President.Its impossible that we wont be able to check out when it comes to background specially on educational attainment and other achievements or something like that.

Yes, we do understand his motive and targets on helping out those people who are in need but its not a solid thing for you to consider on voting him
as the one who would be handling the country where you do live in.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on December 21, 2022, 03:50:56 PM

Not to underestimate but it would really be hard to vote up into someone who doesnt really fit out on the said position specially when running an entire country.
We do know his good deeds and other doings but it wont really be just enough.

Many political parties recruit celebrities or athletes to involve them in candidacy for the highest positions because they have popularity from their careers and many followers, but many of them succeed in getting the highest vote polls but for regent or governor candidacy, but if the presidential candidacy will not be easy to get vote because the people will consider their abilities based on their knowledge of the state constitution, state administration and service to the country without giving priority to the desires of passions that undermine the people's trust in their leaders.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 21, 2022, 06:02:17 AM

Quote from: Taskford on December 21, 2022, 05:42:45 AM

But all things are really different if you have position on government because for sure your voice will be heard and you will get more funds to support your cause so I can't blame Pacquiao to get this ambition since maybe he really have huge vision to make a better Philippines. But his knowledge doesn't really fit to became a leader because he didn't prove anything yet especially on critical scenario which is the decision of president is really carefully needed.

Obviously, he got a big vision for the Philippines, and that's the reason why he run for President, unfortunately, he loses in the last election. Well, maybe he is not really meant to be a President, but he can still continue helping people in his own way, just like what he did in this fight, he donated all the proceeds to the charity.

He would really be just good into lower position into politics rather than making himself as a President.Im not underestimating but it would really be no point on choosing or electing a professional boxer into handling

a country which it would be understandable that we do really need that someone who finishes up law or something which is knowledgeable when it comes to country constitutions or something in related to this.

Not to underestimate but it would really be hard to vote up into someone who doesnt really fit out on the said position specially when running an entire country.
We do know his good deeds and other doings but it wont really be just enough.

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And I guess that even though you have a good plan and vision for your country, it's not going to work on your way. Many think that running for President is one of the worst decision that Manny did, nevertheless he still continue with it despite some opposition from some people inside his circle.

But he can't be just stop, he can still help his people like in this fight with DK where the proceeds goes to the Filipinos.

And then some of the Ukraine vs Russia war.

Yeah. Manny really have a good vision because he has a lot of self funding project that helps a lot of poor people here that politicians failed to do since they are busy on there own personal gain. There’s no chance for Manny to win for president base on how politics works here. An exhibition fight like this will help him give some funds for his project rather than enter the highest position here in the government.

Manny just need to focus more on marketing when he is facing influencer that is not globally well known but I’m sure this first fight will open many door for more opportunities in the future.

It did actually, because he already had a schedule fight next year in the Middle East, so it means more opportunities = more money for him = more help he can give to his Filipinos. And in turn, Filipinos are watching his fights and paying tickets to it's mutual beneficiary for both parties.

But we don't like the idea of Manny facing Errol Spence of Terence Crawford in a professional fight. We see some interviews of him saying that he will love to face either of the boxer, but for me it's going to be suicide for him. Just go and ride the bandwagon on the exhibition fights.

Not sure his main intention is to really help the Filipino People. I've seen people like him drop their altruistic façade off once they get what they want from the public. Although no one can deny his vision for the Philippines is a little ideal but at the same time achievable. So much for the person that the Filipinos voted as their president lmao. Going back, I can't be too hopeful that what he's doing is for the Filipinos. He could be doing this for himself to let people know he still has it in him and you just can't kick him out of the boxing discussion just because he officially retired.

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Quote from: dimonstration on December 21, 2022, 09:15:58 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 21, 2022, 09:07:32 AM

And I guess that even though you have a good plan and vision for your country, it's not going to work on your way. Many think that running for President is one of the worst decision that Manny did, nevertheless he still continue with it despite some opposition from some people inside his circle.

But he can't be just stop, he can still help his people like in this fight with DK where the proceeds goes to the Filipinos.

And then some of the Ukraine vs Russia war.

Yeah. Manny really have a good vision because he has a lot of self funding project that helps a lot of poor people here that politicians failed to do since they are busy on there own personal gain. There’s no chance for Manny to win for president base on how politics works here. An exhibition fight like this will help him give some funds for his project rather than enter the highest position here in the government.

Manny just need to focus more on marketing when he is facing influencer that is not globally well known but I’m sure this first fight will open many door for more opportunities in the future.

It did actually, because he already had a schedule fight next year in the Middle East, so it means more opportunities = more money for him = more help he can give to his Filipinos. And in turn, Filipinos are watching his fights and paying tickets to it's mutual beneficiary for both parties.

But we don't like the idea of Manny facing Errol Spence of Terence Crawford in a professional fight. We see some interviews of him saying that he will love to face either of the boxer, but for me it's going to be suicide for him. Just go and ride the bandwagon on the exhibition fights.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 21, 2022, 09:07:32 AM

And I guess that even though you have a good plan and vision for your country, it's not going to work on your way. Many think that running for President is one of the worst decision that Manny did, nevertheless he still continue with it despite some opposition from some people inside his circle.

But he can't be just stop, he can still help his people like in this fight with DK where the proceeds goes to the Filipinos.

And then some of the Ukraine vs Russia war.

Yeah. Manny really have a good vision because he has a lot of self funding project that helps a lot of poor people here that politicians failed to do since they are busy on there own personal gain. There’s no chance for Manny to win for president base on how politics works here. An exhibition fight like this will help him give some funds for his project rather than enter the highest position here in the government.

Manny just need to focus more on marketing when he is facing influencer that is not globally well known but I’m sure this first fight will open many door for more opportunities in the future.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 20, 2022, 05:20:05 PM

I was never wrong, that when he failed to become the president, he'll come back for boxing to recover what he lost in the election campaign or trying to stack another wealth for the next 6 years to try again once more.

Haaa, the funny thing is that we are all here seriously wanting to talk about Pacquiao, after he declared he would not box again, but after he failed to win the seat of President of the Philippines, is he really ready to jump back into the boxing arena, there is indeed a saying that 'a tiger never forgets its habitat as the king of the jungle' are we going to see Pacquiao betting Errol Spence Jr or Jaber Zayani in the future.

I watched Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo yesterday, in round 4 Pacquiao managed to knock down DK Yoo, but DK was still able to survive until the last round, @Oasisman, I'm sure if he runs again as President of the Philippines in the future, I'm sure the Filipino people don't think of Pacquiao as their leader, the Filipino people prefer to see Pacquiao as a boxing legend, like Tyson, M Ali is remembered as a legend boxer not a legend president.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 21, 2022, 06:02:17 AM

Quote from: Taskford on December 21, 2022, 05:42:45 AM

But all things are really different if you have position on government because for sure your voice will be heard and you will get more funds to support your cause so I can't blame Pacquiao to get this ambition since maybe he really have huge vision to make a better Philippines. But his knowledge doesn't really fit to became a leader because he didn't prove anything yet especially on critical scenario which is the decision of president is really carefully needed.

Obviously, he got a big vision for the Philippines, and that's the reason why he run for President, unfortunately, he loses in the last election. Well, maybe he is not really meant to be a President, but he can still continue helping people in his own way, just like what he did in this fight, he donated all the proceeds to the charity.

And I guess that even though you have a good plan and vision for your country, it's not going to work on your way. Many think that running for President is one of the worst decision that Manny did, nevertheless he still continue with it despite some opposition from some people inside his circle.

But he can't be just stop, he can still help his people like in this fight with DK where the proceeds goes to the Filipinos.

And then some of the Ukraine vs Russia war.

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Quote from: Taskford on December 21, 2022, 05:42:45 AM

But all things are really different if you have position on government because for sure your voice will be heard and you will get more funds to support your cause so I can't blame Pacquiao to get this ambition since maybe he really have huge vision to make a better Philippines. But his knowledge doesn't really fit to became a leader because he didn't prove anything yet especially on critical scenario which is the decision of president is really carefully needed.

Obviously, he got a big vision for the Philippines, and that's the reason why he run for President, unfortunately, he loses in the last election. Well, maybe he is not really meant to be a President, but he can still continue helping people in his own way, just like what he did in this fight, he donated all the proceeds to the charity.

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That's what he said from one of his interviews. But we can't also remove that there's the personal interest that he's got and that's why he entered politics.
Yes, he can still help people without being involved in politics but as we all know, there's the fund that he can use in helping people from being an official and its office that can be distributed to the people that he wants to help.

He has a vision to always help poor people but it doesn't mean that he's fit already to run on that position since there are to many things to consider and running a country doesn't end on providing your citizens a financial help since there are other more technical things which Pacquaio doesn't have.

Maybe this exhibition fight is gateway of Pacquaio to get more big fights and maybe back to real boxing which he can earn huge money again. Maybe he need funds again for future use which is bad thing to look after since he's not young anymore and might he's legacy will be buried by his possible losses if he keep chasing fight with professional boxers in his division if he really have plan to fight back in this category.

Yes, we all know about that.
It's a tough position and we don't think that he's really for it. Maybe not this time or he really doesn't fit it in any of his lifetimes and would just have to be satisfied with his current political position. But as said, let's just skip the politics talk about him but we have seen how his heart with to the poor because he's been there and understands the struggle of someone who doesn't even have a meal or two for a day.

helping poor people is not the only reason why you need to become a politician. there are more things you need to consider when you are in politics because you are guiding the future of your country. but in any case, pacquiao should be totally retiring from professional boxing bouts. great if he will arrange exhibition fights from time to time. but should not think of going active again. enjoy his retirement while he has no health issues.

But all things are really different if you have position on government because for sure your voice will be heard and you will get more funds to support your cause so I can't blame Pacquiao to get this ambition since maybe he really have huge vision to make a better Philippines. But his knowledge doesn't really fit to became a leader because he didn't prove anything yet especially on critical scenario which is the decision of president is really carefully needed.

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