[BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo - page 22.

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Quote from: boyptc on November 14, 2022, 04:10:35 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2022, 04:24:52 AM

Initially though, for me being a boxing fan, I don't understand why they boxers will have to go thru all of this exhibition matches and earn money. But come to think of it, they guys after their boxing careers, doesn't have the income. Most of them might not invest the money that they earn during their prime. Or at least sustain their life style. So as fans, we really need to acknowledge where this boxers are coming from.

And just recently, Ricky Hatton and Marco Antonio Barrera have their own exhibition fight. Two contemporaries of Manny Pacquiao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEqo0KsNGE

They already past of their prime for all of their careers and that's why even Floyd Mayweather Jr. is taking all of the offers for these exhibition matches.

They've got nothing to lose but still everything to gain by just accepting these offers.

It's true that they might have no other source of income and they all leaned to boxing. That's why it is understandable as to why most of these boxers who can't fight professionally anymore are into exhibition matches.

I saw some glimpse of the fight, and they still show some their form, both can still fight like they are in their primes. And we all know that they didn't meet in the ring because Hatton is a 140 lbs while Barrera's best in 135 lbs.

But still we are all happy to see at least this two inside the ring and could have answered the "what if" questions in our mind as a boxing fans.

And at least Hatton seems to have recovered already after the beating that Pacquiao gave to him during their fight.

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Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

It's good to see Pacquiao back in the ring even though it's a promotion fight. It's obvious who will win in this match. I've seen a few videos of DK Yoo on youtube and had no idea he is a martial artist. As long as the fight's proceeds go somewhere else and it will benefit those who are in need it will be worth promoting. I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

There could be hard fans like you who doesn't want exhibition matches, but what can you do? this boxers will need to earn money again, and in this case, easy money as this is the only way they know how to make ends meet.

So Mayweather and Paul Brothers started this whole even, but as you know, Floyd is very smart, taking fight after fight and in just matter of minutes earning millions without having to sweat it out, like Jake Paul recently against Anderson Silva.

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Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Just because you are not fun of the exhibition match, you will stop them from making money? If you don't like exhibition matches, there is always an option to avoid them. Besides no one is forcing us to watch an exhibition match.

I believe Exhibition matches is a good thing for retired boxers, first, it is one way of making money. They can further sustain their old age since they will have more funds in their pocket. Second, many fans wanted to see their idols box again and is willing to pay just to make their wish happen,

That's right! You're rights to avoid watching their exhibition fight is the same exact right they are also exercising to make fights while they can still market the fight because of their fame. Nobody is forcing us to watch them or at least show some sympathy just because they are doing fights, moreover, it's already expected that some of them will still return in the spotlight even if they are already retired. Just let them be mate, and I expect that you won't watch Pacquiao's return because you said yourself that you're not a fan of exhibition fights.

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Quote from: Mahanton on November 10, 2022, 05:48:09 PM

For retired boxing legends then we dont actually know into our minds on why they do still consider on involving themselves on boxing as they had retired already.? If they do really mind off
their health then they wont really be considering on fighting back up again on the ring.If they do really mind off about on not on getting forgotten then this might be their inspiration
or something that do really mind off about having some fight for the benefit of some charities.Its true that minding about on whose gonna win wont really be that
relevant with these exhibition fights as if the results were already clear.

We cannot really force them nor blame them if they still want to fight because boxing has been their life ever since, it is given and somehow understandable that they cannot just say farewell to the sport they loved the most as they also missed the moment inside the ring being cheered by the people around the globe, especially the guys who became a legend playing professionally. Whether if it is for charity or not, they just want that to feel that feeling again and contesting the fight in the form of exhibition matches mean that just want to play it safe while enjoying the sport they loved the most.

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Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Just because you are not fun of the exhibition match, you will stop them from making money? If you don't like exhibition matches, there is always an option to avoid them. Besides no one is forcing us to watch an exhibition match.

I believe Exhibition matches is a good thing for retired boxers, first, it is one way of making money. They can further sustain their old age since they will have more funds in their pocket. Second, many fans wanted to see their idols box again and is willing to pay just to make their wish happen,

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 13, 2022, 03:01:04 PM

Pacquiao is a specialist, the other is a generalist, and the bout is a boxing match which gives Pacquiao a huge edge. I can clearly see that Pacquiao will try to hold back and give the viewers their money's worth, but for sure they all just want to see if Pacquiao's still got it inside the ring. There are rumors that if DK Yoo is defeated, Pacquiao would seek another exhibition match. Seems like the old man is just itching to get it going and prove to the world that his title is something that is worthy of him.

not that interesting to watch unless they fight seriously and have personal grudges to settle in that fight.

Not gonna happen lol. Because if they do, that Korean guy wouldn't last 6 rounds. Non-pro boxers tends to gas out beyond 6 rounds. If I'm not mistaken, the guy DK Yoo is not a boxer, though he practiced martial arts, but boxing is very different than any other forms of combat sports. Once you gas out, your punching power will not be very effective than the beginning of the match and your legs become weaker.

Pacquiao on the other end was trained to do this. When he was at his prime, everytime the rounds goes up, his punching power became even more lethal to an exhausted opponent.
Though Pac is way out of his prime now, but he could still destroy someone. Now, I cant really imagine what would be the outcome if this 2 have personal grudges and would go all out in their match.

For DK yoo then i dont really believe that he could last for 6 rounds and as you said that this dude isnt a boxer which means that his body or simply his lungs couldnt really be able to bare up further rounds.
For Manny pacquiao then this would really be simple as cake,even he's retired but his body and all of the years of training on which his body have would definitely be that easy to handle these
against a man who doesnt have that boxing reputation or experience but since this is an exhibition then they would really be trying out their best on making this fight long and entertaining
but of boxing fans then this one turns out to be boring honestly.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2022, 04:24:52 AM

Initially though, for me being a boxing fan, I don't understand why they boxers will have to go thru all of this exhibition matches and earn money. But come to think of it, they guys after their boxing careers, doesn't have the income. Most of them might not invest the money that they earn during their prime. Or at least sustain their life style. So as fans, we really need to acknowledge where this boxers are coming from.

And just recently, Ricky Hatton and Marco Antonio Barrera have their own exhibition fight. Two contemporaries of Manny Pacquiao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEqo0KsNGE

They already past of their prime for all of their careers and that's why even Floyd Mayweather Jr. is taking all of the offers for these exhibition matches.

They've got nothing to lose but still everything to gain by just accepting these offers.

It's true that they might have no other source of income and they all leaned to boxing. That's why it is understandable as to why most of these boxers who can't fight professionally anymore are into exhibition matches.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 14, 2022, 07:30:05 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 14, 2022, 07:23:37 AM

True, there are people who don't have that chance seeing those legends fighting live and it's the only way to see them, even it's a scripted fight they still wanted to witness and support those legends.

And these people are willing to spend money just to see Manny live, well, that's good for Manny, he earned his way up so he deserves this kind of fight that will give him easy money. Exhibition fights are not serious fights, but in the end, it still depends on the script as there are exhibition fights that we can really see a knockout happened.

For a knockout to be expected during an exhibition, that's probable but highly unlikely IMO. It's just going to be all about having fun if there will be a knockout then for sure that it's going to be favorable that it will be DK Yoo that shall be knocked out.
Well, for sure the fans would like to see a knockout, and the promoters have already anticipated an idea about it. But yes, it will depend on what are the terms that have been agreed with based on the contract that both have signed.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 14, 2022, 07:30:05 AM

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True, there are people who don't have that chance seeing those legends fighting live and it's the only way to see them, even it's a scripted fight they still wanted to witness and support those legends.

And these people are willing to spend money just to see Manny live, well, that's good for Manny, he earned his way up so he deserves this kind of fight that will give him easy money. Exhibition fights are not serious fights, but in the end, it still depends on the script as there are exhibition fights that we can really see a knockout happened.

That's really good for Manny, as he can continue doing it and make good money in each exhibtions that he will be proceeding, I'm sure aside from the money he is also enjoying seeing himself inside the ring even it's no longer the same kind of a fight that he use to know, but just like with how the fans is enjoying, this kind of fighters also loves to perform in front of the crowd who ones enjoy when he defending his belts.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 14, 2022, 07:23:37 AM

True, there are people who don't have that chance seeing those legends fighting live and it's the only way to see them, even it's a scripted fight they still wanted to witness and support those legends.

And these people are willing to spend money just to see Manny live, well, that's good for Manny, he earned his way up so he deserves this kind of fight that will give him easy money. Exhibition fights are not serious fights, but in the end, it still depends on the script as there are exhibition fights that we can really see a knockout happened.

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Quote from: harizen on November 13, 2022, 06:56:01 PM

Take it or leave it. Why some people are against exhibition matches and are frustrated about retired boxers participating in that, these boxers are enjoying money out of retirement. A wise way to use their build popularity that they constructed over thru years.

Correct, if you don't like the kind setup you are free not to support and leave it up the way other people see it as entertainment, those fighters are once being idolized by fans and there are fans who still love to see them fighting inside the ring, it's not mandatory for everyone
to watch it and it's a free will from people who love seeing those former legends to fight again inside the ring even it's just an exhibition matchup.

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If you are sick of those matches, better just ignored them. Somehow on a positive note, there are people who didn't able to witness some legendary boxers during their active days that's why exhibition matches are one of the chances they have to see those legendary boxers.

True, there are people who don't have that chance seeing those legends fighting live and it's the only way to see them, even it's a scripted fight they still wanted to witness and support those legends.

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Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Take it or leave it. Why some people are against exhibition matches and are frustrated about retired boxers participating in that, these boxers are enjoying money out of retirement. A wise way to use their build popularity that they constructed over thru years.

If you are sick of those matches, better just ignored them. Somehow on a positive note, there are people who didn't able to witness some legendary boxers during their active days that's why exhibition matches are one of the chances they have to see those legendary boxers.

Initially though, for me being a boxing fan, I don't understand why they boxers will have to go thru all of this exhibition matches and earn money. But come to think of it, they guys after their boxing careers, doesn't have the income. Most of them might not invest the money that they earn during their prime. Or at least sustain their life style. So as fans, we really need to acknowledge where this boxers are coming from.

And just recently, Ricky Hatton and Marco Antonio Barrera have their own exhibition fight. Two contemporaries of Manny Pacquiao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEqo0KsNGE

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Quote from: erep on November 13, 2022, 03:31:32 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 13, 2022, 03:01:04 PM

Pacquiao is a specialist, the other is a generalist, and the bout is a boxing match which gives Pacquiao a huge edge. I can clearly see that Pacquiao will try to hold back and give the viewers their money's worth, but for sure they all just want to see if Pacquiao's still got it inside the ring. There are rumors that if DK Yoo is defeated, Pacquiao would seek another exhibition match. Seems like the old man is just itching to get it going and prove to the world that his title is something that is worthy of him.

not that interesting to watch unless they fight seriously and have personal grudges to settle in that fight.

Not gonna happen lol. Because if they do, that Korean guy wouldn't last 6 rounds. Non-pro boxers tends to gas out beyond 6 rounds. If I'm not mistaken, the guy DK Yoo is not a boxer, though he practiced martial arts, but boxing is very different than any other forms of combat sports. Once you gas out, your punching power will not be very effective than the beginning of the match and your legs become weaker.

Pacquiao on the other end was trained to do this. When he was at his prime, everytime the rounds goes up, his punching power became even more lethal to an exhausted opponent.
Though Pac is way out of his prime now, but he could still destroy someone. Now, I cant really imagine what would be the outcome if this 2 have personal grudges and would go all out in their match.

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Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Take it or leave it. Why some people are against exhibition matches and are frustrated about retired boxers participating in that, these boxers are enjoying money out of retirement. A wise way to use their build popularity that they constructed over thru years.

If you are sick of those matches, better just ignored them. Somehow on a positive note, there are people who didn't able to witness some legendary boxers during their active days that's why exhibition matches are one of the chances they have to see those legendary boxers.

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Quote from: erep on November 13, 2022, 03:31:32 PM

I don't think DK Yoo is an equal opponent for him and Pacman is very likely to win that fight but because of the exhibition fight then he won't beat him easily but he might adapt to the opponents character and abilities,

Pacman is really going to win this match, Yoo is a martial artist and the way how to fight in boxing and martial arts have a big discrepancy.

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I'm not that interesting to watch unless they fight seriously and have personal grudges to settle in that fight.

It's okay if you don't have any interest watching this match because it's only an exhibition match for a charity. So whether you watch or not, this match is going to earn and the money they'll collect will be shared to the people in the Ukraine who have been suffering from the war.

And not all professional matches have to be in grudges, if you see some boxers having issue with their opponents. It's just a matter of clout chasing to be bought by the public.

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Having no boxing experience is really just committing suicide under on someone's den and take note, he's been labeled out to be a legendary boxer which means that having no experience nor fight history then we
do already know on what would happen,

DK Yoo had some boxing experience though it is so small compared to Manny's resume. DK Yoo fight against Bradley Scott and here is the stream of the fight: Highlights of DK Yoo's Special match ! - #DKYOO vs Bradley Scott

The last fight of DK Yoo took place on December 4, 2021 against Bradley Scott. Yoo took part in an exhibition bout. The result of the fight is not counted in statistics.[1]

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but since this is an exhibition then Manny pacquiao and DK yoo would really be needing to make this fight as long as possible which is something that make the crowd
wouldn't notice but its actually impossible eh? They could dance inside the ring and i wont be surprised if Pacquiao wont be using up too much force on his punches for Yoo to be able to hold up at least few rounds.
For sure they would really be considering on making it long at least to make ppv and tickets would be worth it because if it finishes in 1 round then for sure lots of criticisms would be thrown out.

Definitely, they should make the fight long enough for the audience to enjoy. And they should not make it too obvious if ever the fight is scripted.

[1] https://champinon.info/boxing/dk-yoo/#close

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 13, 2022, 07:49:43 AM

Well, even if he is a martial artist it will not help him to win because this exhibition fight is a boxing fight.

Pacquiao retired because was already old but not old enough to dominate in this kind of exhibition fight. Admit it or not, this fight is only for the purpose of making money because if we really like to see an entertaining boxing fight, Pacman should only fight a retire professional boxer like him.

It's really like the setup of the Paul matches, they're asking to fight against that other professional in other sports and challenge them in a boxing ring.
That really makes sense to them because they're at an advantage if they know how to box while those professionals can't and have a different discipline with their sport.
The same as this match for Pacquiao and Yoo, this is just an exhibition match, and these organizers might be seeing that big money is on there and we'll get to see more popular athletes doing exhibition matches in boxing for the sake of money, entertainment and charity.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 13, 2022, 03:01:04 PM

Pacquiao is a specialist, the other is a generalist, and the bout is a boxing match which gives Pacquiao a huge edge. I can clearly see that Pacquiao will try to hold back and give the viewers their money's worth, but for sure they all just want to see if Pacquiao's still got it inside the ring. There are rumors that if DK Yoo is defeated, Pacquiao would seek another exhibition match. Seems like the old man is just itching to get it going and prove to the world that his title is something that is worthy of him.

I don't think DK Yoo is an equal opponent for him and Pacman is very likely to win that fight but because of the exhibition fight then he won't beat him easily but he might adapt to the opponents character and abilities, I'm not that interesting to watch unless they fight seriously and have personal grudges to settle in that fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 13, 2022, 07:49:43 AM

Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

It's good to see Pacquiao back in the ring even though it's a promotion fight. It's obvious who will win in this match. I've seen a few videos of DK Yoo on youtube and had no idea he is a martial artist. As long as the fight's proceeds go somewhere else and it will benefit those who are in need it will be worth promoting. I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Well, even if he is a martial artist it will not help him to win because this exhibition fight is a boxing fight.

Pacquiao retired because was already old but not old enough to dominate in this kind of exhibition fight. Admit it or not, this fight is only for the purpose of making money because if we really like to see an entertaining boxing fight, Pacman should only fight a retire professional boxer like him.

Pacquiao is a specialist, the other is a generalist, and the bout is a boxing match which gives Pacquiao a huge edge. I can clearly see that Pacquiao will try to hold back and give the viewers their money's worth, but for sure they all just want to see if Pacquiao's still got it inside the ring. There are rumors that if DK Yoo is defeated, Pacquiao would seek another exhibition match. Seems like the old man is just itching to get it going and prove to the world that his title is something that is worthy of him.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on November 13, 2022, 08:48:59 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on November 13, 2022, 07:49:43 AM

Quote from: Genemind on November 12, 2022, 11:21:27 PM

It's good to see Pacquiao back in the ring even though it's a promotion fight. It's obvious who will win in this match. I've seen a few videos of DK Yoo on youtube and had no idea he is a martial artist. As long as the fight's proceeds go somewhere else and it will benefit those who are in need it will be worth promoting. I am really not a fan of exhibition match since most boxer who does this do it for the money, take Mayweather and Logan Paul for instance. If you retire from boxing keep it as it is, stop for good and stop going back just to make some money. Not to mention most of it are scripted.

Well, even if he is a martial artist it will not help him to win because this exhibition fight is a boxing fight.

True, actually DK Yoo is at a disadvantage here because as a martial artist he is used to using different parts of the body like the elbow and knee. He is also used to do stances like kicks, elbow attacks, grappling, takedowns, etc. In this boxing fight, DK Yoo is like a bird with clipped wings because he is forbidden to use the majority of his learned skills. While Manny is able to use all his skill since he is a natural boxer by profession let alone a legendary boxer.

Somehow I have this picture in mind while I am talking about skill set between the two fighters in boxing.

Quote from: Russlenat on November 13, 2022, 07:49:43 AM

Pacquiao retired because was already old but not old enough to dominate in this kind of exhibition fight. Admit it or not, this fight is only for the purpose of making money because if we really like to see an entertaining boxing fight, Pacman should only fight a retire professional boxer like him.

I also think that this exhibition fight is nowhere near a professional boxing fight. They are here to entertain the viewers so it would be lame if they finish the bout as soon as the bell ring. There might be an interesting exchange that may make the audience excited but I think it is part of the script.

I like the description between Pacquiao and Yoo that being portray in that picture, and it is the reality Yoo is fighting one of the great legendary boxer while he don't have anything in his resume, he can easily be cook by Pacquiao but since it's just an exhibition the chance
of him to keep running and avoiding Pacquiao might save him some rounds.

Though it will be depends on how the organizer creates the scripts, who knows the will see the opposite when they are already inside
the ring.

Just for the sake of entertainment, anything can happen with the script that's provided.

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