[Boxing] Manny wins over Matthysse!! - page 3.

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Quote from: Janation on July 18, 2018, 01:08:41 AM

Quote from: boyptc on July 17, 2018, 09:37:08 AM

Manny said to an interview that he can still go up to 3 fights. After the fight against Matthysse, he's already planning about the next fight, no time for him to rest. Undecided

It is great that our Senator, Manny Pacquiao won the bout by a KO but he is not in the age that he should be the one finding his opponent. He is a great fighter, especially when he is in his prime but he is in the age now that is close to retirement. I don't care if he loses or he wins but he must really be careful since he still has a country to take care of.

After 9 years without any K.O with his fight, it feels so good specially for him to have that kind of fight.

A lot of talks about his retirement, he's not that too old and he's body is still in condition in fact he said that he's still going to fight soon.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 17, 2018, 09:37:08 AM

Manny said to an interview that he can still go up to 3 fights. After the fight against Matthysse, he's already planning about the next fight, no time for him to rest. Undecided

It is great that our Senator, Manny Pacquiao won the bout by a KO but he is not in the age that he should be the one finding his opponent. He is a great fighter, especially when he is in his prime but he is in the age now that is close to retirement. I don't care if he loses or he wins but he must really be careful since he still has a country to take care of.

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Quote from: spiker777 on July 17, 2018, 03:58:55 PM

Honestly I'm surprised that Manny manage to pull off a stoppage defeat against the younger man. Pacquiao definitely still has a lot of fight left in him, he looked like a young man in there. I don't think that Matthysse was ready for it, probably assumed he would walk over the Pacman and soon realised otherwise being dropped 3 times Cheesy

Just like many of Manny's opponent, they walk overconfident and thinking that they would walk over Manny. But when they taste his fist, a complete 360 degree happen, we have seen this against Mosley, and after the fight he said that Manny really hits hard and he was surprised by the power. Maybe that's what happen to Lucas Mattysse, he was hit in the first round and you will notice how tentative he became after that.

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Honestly I'm surprised that Manny manage to pull off a stoppage defeat against the younger man. Pacquiao definitely still has a lot of fight left in him, he looked like a young man in there. I don't think that Matthysse was ready for it, probably assumed he would walk over the Pacman and soon realised otherwise being dropped 3 times Cheesy

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Quote from: harizen on July 17, 2018, 03:31:48 PM

Quote from: boyptc on July 17, 2018, 09:37:08 AM

Manny said to an interview that he can still go up to 3 fights. After the fight against Matthysse, he's already planning about the next fight, no time for him to rest. Undecided

Im seeing 3 fights more too. If he will rest for long then he will be on 45 years for his 3rd match.

Yearly span is enough time for rest.

Anyways I think it's better if we stick to the first discussion thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-pacquiao-vs-matthysse-july-15-2018-3131239

It might be enough for a normal warrior but for him with a lot of things to do, I don't think that its going to be enough as a law maker, coach/basketball player, etc.

OP, can you close this thread so we can stick to the first thread?

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Quote from: JL421 on July 17, 2018, 01:40:34 PM

It hardly matters, this match didn't even have the hype they tried to create. I did see the first round but didn't find the match too interesting and stopped watching.
Besides this match took place during fifa finals so drawing attention would be hard as people would be celebrating or were already on bed lol

If you are really not interested in the first place then you will really have a hard time to watched the fight, contrary to others who watched it all along. Not all here are FIFA enthusiast so same applied that not all are boxing enthusiast. It's your own view so don't take it as general.

Quote from: boyptc on July 17, 2018, 09:37:08 AM

Manny said to an interview that he can still go up to 3 fights. After the fight against Matthysse, he's already planning about the next fight, no time for him to rest. Undecided

Im seeing 3 fights more too. If he will rest for long then he will be on 45 years for his 3rd match.

Yearly span is enough time for rest.

Anyways I think it's better if we stick to the first discussion thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-pacquiao-vs-matthysse-july-15-2018-3131239

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It hardly matters, this match didn't even have the hype they tried to create. I did see the first round but didn't find the match too interesting and stopped watching.
Besides this match took place during fifa finals so drawing attention would be hard as people would be celebrating or were already on bed lol

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Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

I think Manny Pacquiao can still manage to play boxing,

His last fight against Mattysse proves that the can still bang and his straight left is still there, and now he has a new weapon, that awkward uppercut. Grin

Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

but President Duterte wants Manny Pacquiao to rest, maybe because of his age, but I think Manny Pacquiao still have the energy to fight Cheesy

LOL. What does the President knows about boxing. I didn't exactly hear what the President says, but maybe he is advising (as a boxing fan) for Manny to quit boxing. But only Manny can decide what's best for him and not even the President can stop him if he wanted to continue with his boxing career.

Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

I don't expect that Manny can still manage to win after his some previous game before.

Do not doubt Pacman. He still proves that can win boxing matches. Its just a matter of who is going to fight him. Crawford? Loma? just bring it on.

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Manny said to an interview that he can still go up to 3 fights. After the fight against Matthysse, he's already planning about the next fight, no time for him to rest. Undecided

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Quote from: Darklinkz on July 16, 2018, 10:01:53 PM

Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 15, 2018, 04:02:40 AM

The 40-year old guy won the match against Matthysse, whom I thought was on top form. Never expected this result, as I was sure that Pacman was going to lose. The good thing is that I didn't made a bet on this match. Else I would have lost quite a bit.

I also thought of that. Pacman was losing his power so this was a big surprise. But if this fight continued to the 12th round, Matthysse would maybe win the fight over pacquiao just like the recent horne fight. I hope he would show the same thing in his next fights.

Well we have different views about this since though i didn't expect a ko, i didn't mathysse can bear pacquiao. They're not on the same class if i may say and it clearly showed during the fight. Disregard age, speed and power, pacquiao is head and shoulders when it comes to boxing skills

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 16, 2018, 03:42:09 AM

Boboy has been with Manny even before Coach enters the picture. If anyone that would really know Manny, its his old buddy Boboy. Maybe its a breathe of fresh air for Manny seeing Boboy training him again so I agree that Boboy has something to do with Manny performing like his old self.

Yeah boboy was actually the one who discovered pacman's ability on the ring. Pacman now atleast realize that he has to slowdown and prove to roach that pacman can still win without him.

Quote from: Kemarit on July 16, 2018, 03:42:09 AM

Fortune, his strength and conditioning coach already admitted that Manny over trained during the Horn match. Yes, he is aging so the body reacts differently, they made the adjustments and Manny and the result is perfect. And Manny still proves that he can still draw crowds and win belts at age 40.

That is why I have to commend the training team of pacman. Since they realize that they have to make changes for good.

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Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 15, 2018, 04:02:40 AM

The 40-year old guy won the match against Matthysse, whom I thought was on top form. Never expected this result, as I was sure that Pacman was going to lose. The good thing is that I didn't made a bet on this match. Else I would have lost quite a bit.

I also thought of that. Pacman was losing his power so this was a big surprise. But if this fight continued to the 12th round, Matthysse would maybe win the fight over pacquiao just like the recent horne fight. I hope he would show the same thing in his next fights.

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The 40-year old guy won the match against Matthysse, whom I thought was on top form. Never expected this result, as I was sure that Pacman was going to lose. The good thing is that I didn't made a bet on this match. Else I would have lost quite a bit.

Well the 40 year old guy has still some pops on both hands isn't it. He maybe a tad slower because of his age, but the timing and the footwork and the power was definitely present. How can you go against that 40 year old guy though. I really don't know if you really follow boxing a lot or just wanted that 40 year old guy to lose.

@crwth, there's a lot of Manny's opponent that trash talk him but fail to deliver, you can find a lot of YT videos about it, specially Hatton and his coach back then Mayweather Sr., saying that Manny always do the same moves, but guess what, Manny retire Hatton. And then there's Margarito and Rios calling Manny "Puto", again, Margarito suffers a broken orbital bone at his right eye and Rios crying after his defeat. So moral lesson, don't trash talk that 40 year old dude. Grin

Haha. I do remember that. Underestimating Pacman at it’s finest. Going 40 but can rough up and beat you up Cheesy

i do agree that the footwork is better and the power is there. I just remember the fight of Manny and Floyd and it was defensive type but they really have patience with each other. More fights.

The good thing i do like with Pacquiao is that he's a humble person even though there are lots of criticisms or underestimation before the fight but he still decide to keep quiet and patient. Yet the results would really be known after the fight. Even after winning this guy do still appreciate opponents performance.
I dont really expect too much for him to win but when hes already on the middle of the ring you can see an old man body is on perfect shape and condition and you will able to see that on his reflexes and reaction times.
Fast and heavy jabs and a good footwork will really be noticed.

Yep, he has been criticised for having a potent left hand, but he has improved his right hand as well. He is very humble but when he is in the ring, he turn into a different animal. Although he won the fight KO/TKO, you can still people bashing Manny and said that Lucas is tailor made for him. Lol. You can't really please everyone.

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First of all congratulations to mamy paquiao people champ of the people of the philippine and about their performance have an changes his strategy than before the trainer is roach. I think his stategy go back from the since he is start in the boxing career.

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We can not deny that manny is very talented people, inside and outside the ring. Age is not a problem to manny, he has power and speed to win over mattysse even he is young. Manny is very impressive with his boxing career, he is not easy to lose, he give a very good fight to everyone, that the reason why manny is one great boxer.

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Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

I think Manny Pacquiao can still manage to play boxing, but President Duterte wants Manny Pacquiao to rest

I watched that interview that he just want to let Pacquiao to live his life and enjoy it after all of those years that he worked hard for his career.

Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

maybe because of his age, but I think Manny Pacquiao still have the energy to fight Cheesy

He isn't too old to retire as long as he can manage his physical and mental strength reserve for 2 to 4 more years he's going to be fine.

Quote from: eann014 on July 16, 2018, 08:47:51 AM

I don't expect that Manny can still manage to win after his some previous game before.

I didn't expected him to win against Matthyse after his lost to Horn but he did managed to win. There's something interesting with the coaching style of Buboy(his new coach).

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I think Manny Pacquiao can still manage to play boxing, but President Duterte wants Manny Pacquiao to rest, maybe because of his age, but I think Manny Pacquiao still have the energy to fight Cheesy

I don't expect that Manny can still manage to win after his some previous game before.

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Quote from: crwth on July 16, 2018, 04:20:18 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 15, 2018, 09:01:19 AM

Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 15, 2018, 04:02:40 AM

The 40-year old guy won the match against Matthysse, whom I thought was on top form. Never expected this result, as I was sure that Pacman was going to lose. The good thing is that I didn't made a bet on this match. Else I would have lost quite a bit.

Well the 40 year old guy has still some pops on both hands isn't it. He maybe a tad slower because of his age, but the timing and the footwork and the power was definitely present. How can you go against that 40 year old guy though. I really don't know if you really follow boxing a lot or just wanted that 40 year old guy to lose.

@crwth, there's a lot of Manny's opponent that trash talk him but fail to deliver, you can find a lot of YT videos about it, specially Hatton and his coach back then Mayweather Sr., saying that Manny always do the same moves, but guess what, Manny retire Hatton. And then there's Margarito and Rios calling Manny "Puto", again, Margarito suffers a broken orbital bone at his right eye and Rios crying after his defeat. So moral lesson, don't trash talk that 40 year old dude. Grin

Haha. I do remember that. Underestimating Pacman at it’s finest. Going 40 but can rough up and beat you up Cheesy

i do agree that the footwork is better and the power is there. I just remember the fight of Manny and Floyd and it was defensive type but they really have patience with each other. More fights.

The good thing i do like with Pacquiao is that he's a humble person even though there are lots of criticisms or underestimation before the fight but he still decide to keep quiet and patient. Yet the results would really be known after the fight. Even after winning this guy do still appreciate opponents performance.
I dont really expect too much for him to win but when hes already on the middle of the ring you can see an old man body is on perfect shape and condition and you will able to see that on his reflexes and reaction times.
Fast and heavy jabs and a good footwork will really be noticed.

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Quote from: Jating on July 15, 2018, 09:01:19 AM

Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 15, 2018, 04:02:40 AM

The 40-year old guy won the match against Matthysse, whom I thought was on top form. Never expected this result, as I was sure that Pacman was going to lose. The good thing is that I didn't made a bet on this match. Else I would have lost quite a bit.

Well the 40 year old guy has still some pops on both hands isn't it. He maybe a tad slower because of his age, but the timing and the footwork and the power was definitely present. How can you go against that 40 year old guy though. I really don't know if you really follow boxing a lot or just wanted that 40 year old guy to lose.

@crwth, there's a lot of Manny's opponent that trash talk him but fail to deliver, you can find a lot of YT videos about it, specially Hatton and his coach back then Mayweather Sr., saying that Manny always do the same moves, but guess what, Manny retire Hatton. And then there's Margarito and Rios calling Manny "Puto", again, Margarito suffers a broken orbital bone at his right eye and Rios crying after his defeat. So moral lesson, don't trash talk that 40 year old dude. Grin

Haha. I do remember that. Underestimating Pacman at it’s finest. Going 40 but can rough up and beat you up Cheesy

i do agree that the footwork is better and the power is there. I just remember the fight of Manny and Floyd and it was defensive type but they really have patience with each other. More fights.

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Quote from: darklus123 on July 16, 2018, 03:24:36 AM

I must say that it was a great effort for both manny and hid team. When freddy roach did not support manny for this fight. Coach boboy did a great job because he really put manny the adjustments that manny needed.

Boboy has been with Manny even before Coach enters the picture. If anyone that would really know Manny, its his old buddy Boboy. Maybe its a breathe of fresh air for Manny seeing Boboy training him again so I agree that Boboy has something to do with Manny performing like his old self.

Quote from: darklus123 on July 16, 2018, 03:24:36 AM

Unlike before pacman does more on weight lifting and reduces the training program to almost 50%. Manny admitted that he was pushed through his limits before during trainings and considering his age he admitted that he thinks because of that massive training programs he always end up being too tired during the fight. Now theyve focused more on his relaxing time. And obviously it actually works

Fortune, his strength and conditioning coach already admitted that Manny over trained during the Horn match. Yes, he is aging so the body reacts differently, they made the adjustments and Manny and the result is perfect. And Manny still proves that he can still draw crowds and win belts at age 40.

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