[Boxing] Pacquiao vs Matthysse July 15 2018

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I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

I really don't think that Mayweather would come back for a rematch with Pacquiao. There is not benefit to doing so, it doesn't improve his legacy, the pay-day probably won't be as big as with McGregor, and he certainly doesn't need the money. I think Mayweather will stay retired unless there is a Mayweather/McGregor rematch (unlikely).

I disagree. The rematch could even surpassed their previous records and if the money is on the table, I sure that Mayweather will come out of his retirement and get the final paycheck worth hundreds of millions of dollars, that is if he decided to. As for Jeff Horn, he should go back to Australia now, he can't have a decent career in the US will a lot of 140lbs - 147 lbs that can easily beat him. He is obviously calling Manny to get another exposure and good paycheck.

So you're saying that a fight between Pacman and McGregor would receiving more PPVs than Mayweather/McGregor 2? I highly doubt that. Also there's absolutely no benefit, other than financial to fight Pacman, right now, I think Mayweather won't be taking any fights that won't both improve his legacy and earn him crap loads, so maybe he'll fight Lomachenko or something, but that's it.

I remember when the Mayweather and McGregor fight first came out in the news, Pacman also offered McGregor a fight in case Mayweather declined. Pacman and McGregor fight is not a bad idea but I don't think Pacman will not go for it for now and remember Pacman is trying to avoid stepping in the US soil for a fight because of the IRS issues as Bob Arum revealed before they part ways as the reason behind why Pacman decided to chose Malaysia.

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Quote from: spiker777 on July 19, 2018, 01:47:15 PM

So you're saying that a fight between Pacman and McGregor would receiving more PPVs than Mayweather/McGregor 2? I highly doubt that. Also there's absolutely no benefit, other than financial to fight Pacman, right now, I think Mayweather won't be taking any fights that won't both improve his legacy and earn him crap loads, so maybe he'll fight Lomachenko or something, but that's it.

Im doubt Lomachengko fight with Mayweather will happened. Mayweather wants money and Lomachengko for now will surely not getting much PPV's and audience. Plus the fact that Lomachenko's camp don't want to jump on weight level, the reason why they aren't taking fight with Manny Pacquaio. No way Mayweather will grants every request especially that going down weight level as we know the pride of this boxer.

Anyways the topic are now getting discussions with a bit off-topic. Since the fight is now over can we closed this thread and wait for upcoming matches?

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I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

I really don't think that Mayweather would come back for a rematch with Pacquiao. There is not benefit to doing so, it doesn't improve his legacy, the pay-day probably won't be as big as with McGregor, and he certainly doesn't need the money. I think Mayweather will stay retired unless there is a Mayweather/McGregor rematch (unlikely).

I disagree. The rematch could even surpassed their previous records and if the money is on the table, I sure that Mayweather will come out of his retirement and get the final paycheck worth hundreds of millions of dollars, that is if he decided to. As for Jeff Horn, he should go back to Australia now, he can't have a decent career in the US will a lot of 140lbs - 147 lbs that can easily beat him. He is obviously calling Manny to get another exposure and good paycheck.

So you're saying that a fight between Pacman and McGregor would receiving more PPVs than Mayweather/McGregor 2? I highly doubt that. Also there's absolutely no benefit, other than financial to fight Pacman, right now, I think Mayweather won't be taking any fights that won't both improve his legacy and earn him crap loads, so maybe he'll fight Lomachenko or something, but that's it.

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I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

I really don't think that Mayweather would come back for a rematch with Pacquiao. There is not benefit to doing so, it doesn't improve his legacy, the pay-day probably won't be as big as with McGregor, and he certainly doesn't need the money. I think Mayweather will stay retired unless there is a Mayweather/McGregor rematch (unlikely).

I disagree. The rematch could even surpassed their previous records and if the money is on the table, I sure that Mayweather will come out of his retirement and get the final paycheck worth hundreds of millions of dollars, that is if he decided to. As for Jeff Horn, he should go back to Australia now, he can't have a decent career in the US will a lot of 140lbs - 147 lbs that can easily beat him. He is obviously calling Manny to get another exposure and good paycheck.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 18, 2018, 06:42:01 AM

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Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

Yeah just ignore that bullshit cheater. He just want to fight Pacquiao now because his belt just lost and now its in Crawford's hands right now and Pacquiao has a new belt now. He want to fight Pacquiao because of the belt. Fighting that noob will destroy Manny's reputation as a boxer.

There are many stronger players compare to Horn that Manny can fight with. I wish the last 2-3 fights of Pacquiao will be the best fights of his career before he retire.

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Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

It looks like Jeff Horn wants a money making fight and to won a belt. He knows what Pacquiao weakness is and we know already what kind of fight again might happen. It's Pacquiao to decide but if i were him i would choose others who wants to fight and not Jeff Horn anymore. As Pacquiao said a 2-3 more fights before he hangs his gloves.

He wants more money and attention that's it. I don't have any information about his fights and the latest was just posted here that he lost his belt so that tells why he's so desperate of having that twitter post. As I've said he won't be considered anymore by Manny, there are other worthy fighters that can have more chance of winning for Manny. He'll make his retirement one of the unforgettable so he would choose those opponents that he has an advantage.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 18, 2018, 09:22:50 AM

I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

I really don't think that Mayweather would come back for a rematch with Pacquiao. There is not benefit to doing so, it doesn't improve his legacy, the pay-day probably won't be as big as with McGregor, and he certainly doesn't need the money. I think Mayweather will stay retired unless there is a Mayweather/McGregor rematch (unlikely).

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 17, 2018, 11:24:30 PM

Quote from: harizen on July 17, 2018, 02:46:58 PM

Round 7 KO by Pacquaio is really an unusual thing to happened in boxing history for a 39 year old guy. Im expecting 2 to 3 fights before retirement but it must be on a yearly span.

If everything goes into plan, Senator Manny Pacquaio's next fight will be here in the Philippines and since he is not under Bob Arum's Top Rank and fighters started calling him out (like Jeff Horn), he can now set the terms and conditions like he will only fight if the fight is made in the Philippines. It won't be a surprise if that happens anytime soon.

If that will happened then I believed that he will be his last fight*.

No to HORN anyways. Nothing will gained.

Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 18, 2018, 09:22:50 AM

I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

Horn's camp is confident prior to Horn-Crawford bout. Since their fighter defeated Pacquaio, they do trashed Crawford's ability and in the end we know the result. Just because Horn gained rankings after beating Pacquaio, he jumped right away in fighting Crawford. So arrogant.

Horn's camp now want a rematch with Manny Pacquaio for an obvious reason of getting back again at the stage + money as always. If they really want to go back to spotlight then challenge Crawford instead on a rematch. Why they want Pacquiao for this.

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The news about Pacquiao to Mayweather.
https://www.complex.com/sports/2018/07/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-second-one

That is possible if the price is right.

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Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

It looks like Jeff Horn wants a money making fight and to won a belt. He knows what Pacquiao weakness is and we know already what kind of fight again might happen. It's Pacquiao to decide but if i were him i would choose others who wants to fight and not Jeff Horn anymore. As Pacquiao said a 2-3 more fights before he hangs his gloves.

I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

Regarding with that i have read a news that Pacquiao is open for a rematch with Mayweather. Floyd is already retired in his boxing career with a clean record would he gets back just to fight Pacquiao for the last time? This is very exciting if we will hear Floyd's side.

The news about Pacquiao to Mayweather.
https://www.complex.com/sports/2018/07/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-second-one

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Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

It looks like Jeff Horn wants a money making fight and to won a belt. He knows what Pacquiao weakness is and we know already what kind of fight again might happen. It's Pacquiao to decide but if i were him i would choose others who wants to fight and not Jeff Horn anymore. As Pacquiao said a 2-3 more fights before he hangs his gloves.

I guess that is the more reason why Pacquiao would not fight Jeff Horn. If Pacquiao said that he only wants to fight 2-3 boxers, I would not include Jeff horn anymore since if I will be Pacquiao and I will be choosing having a rematch? that will be Mayweather. There is no reason to fight Jeff Horn no more, he just calling out Pacquiao since he's career is starting to crumble.

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Quote from: Ramtapsbtc on July 18, 2018, 05:37:15 AM

Quote from: Janation on July 18, 2018, 12:07:51 AM

Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

It looks like Jeff Horn wants a money making fight and to won a belt. He knows what Pacquiao weakness is and we know already what kind of fight again might happen. It's Pacquiao to decide but if i were him i would choose others who wants to fight and not Jeff Horn anymore. As Pacquiao said a 2-3 more fights before he hangs his gloves.

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Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

I agree with that one. It is not that we should ignore about Jeff Horn about that but as the top post says, there is also the brawl of the Philippines' Gilas Pilipinas and Australia's The Boomers that might really make it bad. I think I suggest for him to choose his opponent wisely, Manny Pacquiao can still fight but that doesn't mean he can face any opponents he wants to, he is not also fighting his opponents but also his body because of his Age.

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Quote from: Ramtapsbtc on July 18, 2018, 05:37:15 AM

Quote from: Janation on July 18, 2018, 12:07:51 AM

Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

Manny won't consider fighting him again. Manny knows what's best for him and for his entire management, he won't gamble again his reputation to a controversial fighter.

Just ignore Horn, he's getting attention since he's starting to low his career.

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Quote from: Janation on July 18, 2018, 12:07:51 AM

Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

A fight with Jeff Horn will not gonna happen in my own opinion since Horn losses his belt and we all know that fight is a controversial one. It should have gone in favor of Manny. I doubt if Pacquiao is going to fight in Australia again neither Horn will fight in the Philippines with the recent brawl involving the Boomers and the Gilas.

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Round 7 KO by Pacquaio is really an unusual thing to happened in boxing history for a 39 year old guy. Im expecting 2 to 3 fights before retirement but it must be on a yearly span.

If everything goes into plan, Senator Manny Pacquaio's next fight will be here in the Philippines and since he is not under Bob Arum's Top Rank and fighters started calling him out (like Jeff Horn), he can now set the terms and conditions like he will only fight if the fight is made in the Philippines. It won't be a surprise if that happens anytime soon.

We still don't know what will Pacquiao will do this time, but all he just said after the fight is to go back to the Philippines and to his Political work as he is the Senator of our country.

I heard someone saying that the reason why Pacquiao want to fight at Kuala Lumpur is to strengthen the bond between the country and our country. It might be wrong but all we know is that Manny Pacquiao is then again catching the attention of great and strong boxers and Jeff Horn called him again though I guess because he got the belt and Jeff Horn losses his.

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Quote from: harizen on July 17, 2018, 02:46:58 PM

Round 7 KO by Pacquaio is really an unusual thing to happened in boxing history for a 39 year old guy. Im expecting 2 to 3 fights before retirement but it must be on a yearly span.

If everything goes into plan, Senator Manny Pacquaio's next fight will be here in the Philippines and since he is not under Bob Arum's Top Rank and fighters started calling him out (like Jeff Horn), he can now set the terms and conditions like he will only fight if the fight is made in the Philippines. It won't be a surprise if that happens anytime soon.

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Quote from: Darklinkz on July 16, 2018, 09:56:40 PM

I did not expect Manny to knockout Matthysse that early. Matthysse has a good record but he looks so weak when fighting Manny on the ring. Manny should fight next the undefeated boxers like Crawford because it would be very interesting and will generate a lot of money.

As Manny said it, Matthysse is a good boxer but the thing is what the analysts says, they said that Matthysse did not have a fight to a boxer like Pacquiao, you can see the experience difference between the two fighters in the match. Matthysse might land some punches but Pacquiao will move faster and land more punches, that is how he fights. Matthysse also are expecting some left punches that he might counter but what landed to him big time is Pacquiao's right punches.

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It should be Terrence Crawford as well for the next fight for MP but I doubt it will happened because I don't see Crawford will take a much less payment after he won against Jeff Horn. I really don't believed he can make more money than Manny if he will not take the cut but I think he must consider fighting the legend boxer so that his credentials will be more good if he defeat money. Not just that, he can now dictate what rewards should given to him if he able to contained Pacquaio.

He is just 30 years and I don't see that it will harmed him just for a single match to have a pay cut. And besides if ever he won, expect that he will now received more earnings compare to what he is right now.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 16, 2018, 08:13:52 PM

What do you guys think of Manny facing Adrien Broner? Adrien is one of the best trash talker in boxing right now. But he can't back it up. Remember how he trash talk Maidana (Lucas' fellow Argentinian) and saying that he will speak English after he beat's him. And then Maidana knock him down and do the stanky walk. Lol. That was classic the Internet and boxing world exploded that year with meme's of Broner going around the web. If Pacquaio can shut his mouth for good, that would be really entertaining. hehehehe.

No. Pacquaio has nothing to gain fighting that Floyd clone. He might have a big mouth and very entertaining, but its too risky for Pacquaio and little to gain. Risk - if he loss, then many will say that his win against Lucas Mattysse is a fluke, and this will put a questionable mark on his resume, that Broner that was destroyed by Maidana, Shaun Porter (his former sparring mate) and Mickey Gracia. For me, the best fight Manny should take is against Crawford, the bigger the risk, the higher the reward at this point of his career.

Im eyeing for Crawford too. If the price is right why not? No way Pacquaio will just take the bait of fighting Crawford with only 60/40 distribution. Manny is not that dump to take fights with youngsters even he still have the power.

Pacquiao is definitely will expect an overwhelming strength from the younger Crawford which is currently on peak. If happened it will be like Pacquiao-Dela Hoya bout but the difference is weight limit and Pacquaios] is definitely much stronger compare to Dela Hoya at that age (Dela Hoya was 35 when he fought Manny).

Personally for me, I don't want a rematch for Jeff Horn. It's enough that he take Pacquaio's name as stepping stone to increase his ranking that's why he just jumped in fighting Crawford.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 16, 2018, 08:13:52 PM

What do you guys think of Manny facing Adrien Broner? Adrien is one of the best trash talker in boxing right now. But he can't back it up. Remember how he trash talk Maidana (Lucas' fellow Argentinian) and saying that he will speak English after he beat's him. And then Maidana knock him down and do the stanky walk. Lol. That was classic the Internet and boxing world exploded that year with meme's of Broner going around the web. If Pacquaio can shut his mouth for good, that would be really entertaining. hehehehe.

No. Pacquaio has nothing to gain fighting that Floyd clone. He might have a big mouth and very entertaining, but its too risky for Pacquaio and little to gain. Risk - if he loss, then many will say that his win against Lucas Mattysse is a fluke, and this will put a questionable mark on his resume, that Broner that was destroyed by Maidana, Shaun Porter (his former sparring mate) and Mickey Gracia. For me, the best fight Manny should take is against Crawford, the bigger the risk, the higher the reward at this point of his career.

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