🥊[Boxing] Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Junior [PPV on Nov. 28]

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Quote from: famososMuertos on December 01, 2020, 06:40:57 PM

Next: Evander Holyfield Cool

Initially it was Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson, I can't remember why suddenly the discussion had fault off and then it become Roy Jones.

Anyway, it they push with the Evander fight, I do hope that there's no more white washing,

, no draw as I'm sure Evander has still has it because we also have been seeing him during some mitts before in preparation of a supposedly fight with Mike.

We have a thread here already but it was locked.

Evander Holyfield trilogy fight with Mike Tyson

This article is talking about a lot of money.

https://www.sportscasting.com/evander-holyfield-has-issued-a-25-million-challenge-to-mike-tyson/

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Evander Holyfield knows exactly what it’s like to step inside the ring with Mike Tyson. After all, the two boxing legends went toe-to-toe (with an ear involved) in two hellacious fights back in the ’90s.

With Tyson returning to the ring for the first time in 15 years, it sounds like he already has a future opponent waiting in the wings. But a third showdown between Iron Mike and The Real Deal will only happen if Tyson answers his adversary’s $25 million challenge.

What do you think, is Holyfield serious about that?

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Quote from: TimeTeller on November 29, 2020, 04:05:11 PM

Is this the new normal? Old boxers coming to life inside the ring? Wink

But if they are doing this for charity purposes, that's fine.
As long as they can still handle the punches and know what's at stake for them.
But really awesome that Tyson has still something to offer.
Considering that he's already in his retirement years.
Fighting above 50 is the new norm. Cheesy

Most athletes for the most part never want to retire and this is even more true if you are exceptional at what you do, the problem for them is that their body gives up before they do and they have to recognize that despite their experience and their ability they cannot compete with people that are 10 years or even 20 years younger than them so I'm not surprised at all that now we are seeing a new trend of old boxers coming back to the ring and showing that they could still fight if they were younger.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on December 01, 2020, 06:40:57 PM

Next: Evander Holyfield Cool

Initially it was Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson, I can't remember why suddenly the discussion had fault off and then it become Roy Jones.

Anyway, it they push with the Evander fight, I do hope that there's no more white washing,

, no draw as I'm sure Evander has still has it because we also have been seeing him during some mitts before in preparation of a supposedly fight with Mike.

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I have read that some wanted to see Mike Tyson as the "official" winner and it was in the reality of the fight where a Mike Tyson was seen with good movements, made us remember something of the great fighter that he was, without a doubt a great exhibition .

But there was also a great show and the visual aspect had no losses, hopefully they give the opportunity to other great boxers and they are encouraged by the proposal of "pride" and the monetary one. $ 10,000,000 and $ 3,000,000 in this case not inconsiderable.
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Next: Evander Holyfield Cool

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on November 30, 2020, 06:06:03 PM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 30, 2020, 07:38:57 AM

So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

If the promoters will push this, it's likely to happen I have seen Holyfield doing the mits and he is doing great with it, the two are the best protagonist in their era and they are good friends too, they like to be in shape and very competitive with the same passion for the sport, I like to see both of them both in the ring again, it will attract more attention more sales.

Let's just hope that would happen that could be a good fight as we can see Mike still has the agility and the power I would like to see that match in the future. The fight with Jones was really Mike's fight but it's an exhibition and we should expect it as a draw for both legends.

Before this fight it was Tyson vs Evander Holyfield, and it created some hype but the fight did not push through, but now since this fight is a success and both fighters made money here, I believe Tyson vs Evander Holyfield will be the next fight, and I believe this is an even fight which what gamblers like to see.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on November 30, 2020, 06:06:03 PM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 30, 2020, 07:38:57 AM

So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

If the promoters will push this, it's likely to happen I have seen Holyfield doing the mits and he is doing great with it, the two are the best protagonist in their era and they are good friends too, they like to be in shape and very competitive with the same passion for the sport, I like to see both of them both in the ring again, it will attract more attention more sales.

Let's just hope that would happen that could be a good fight as we can see Mike still has the agility and the power I would like to see that match in the future. The fight with Jones was really Mike's fight but it's an exhibition and we should expect it as a draw for both legends.

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Quote from: stadus on November 30, 2020, 05:22:51 AM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2020, 02:11:36 AM

Nate isn't really for boxing and this will make Jake Paul have more matches as he desires to fight again soon.

Yes, that was a devastating loss, he was not meant for boxing, and actually it was not an exhibition fight for those who don't know.
It was the 2nd fight of Jake Paul, and his record now is 2-0 (2KO).

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

It will make him confident to find another "professional" to pick a fight against him.

I guess this thread has served its purpose already, isn't it?

I believe so, we already have made a lot of meaningful discussion in this thread, so probably OP should lock this soon.

Nice fight anyway, respect to the old man, though it was not what we are expecting.

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Quote from: stadus on November 30, 2020, 05:22:51 AM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2020, 02:11:36 AM

Nate isn't really for boxing and this will make Jake Paul have more matches as he desires to fight again soon.

Yes, that was a devastating loss, he was not meant for boxing, and actually it was not an exhibition fight for those who don't know.
It was the 2nd fight of Jake Paul, and his record now is 2-0 (2KO).

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

It will make him confident to find another "professional" to pick a fight against him.

I guess this thread has served its purpose already, isn't it?

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on November 30, 2020, 06:06:03 PM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 30, 2020, 07:38:57 AM

So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

If the promoters will push this, it's likely to happen I have seen Holyfield doing the mits and he is doing great with it, the two are the best protagonist in their era and they are good friends too, they like to be in shape and very competitive with the same passion for the sport, I like to see both of them both in the ring again, it will attract more attention more sales.

We don't know yet if there's a chance for Mike Tyson and Holyfield to meet in the ring again cause the possibility is slim but no fight is impossible in boxing if the money is good, promoters are willing to promote and the fans are thirsty for the fight.
@pilosopotasyo, you seem not to be aware of the relationship between the two champs (Mike and Holyfield) because they are rivals and never friends as you said.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 30, 2020, 09:37:14 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on November 30, 2020, 07:06:48 AM

That's an accusation, it was not rigged because we don't have an evidence, and this one does not go with our expectation, and it happen many times in sports, not only in boxing, so what we do now is just accept the result, if we lose, just move on and bet on other fight or games.

There is no point in any kind of accusation when it is an exhibition bout. If you score the fight Mike Tyson won the fight clearly but that is not how the fight is scored and they were given a draw and the important aspect of his bout is to raise money and they sure did that and Mike Tyson might return to do more exhibition fights as the amount of money he is able to make will be much greater than taking seminars Grin

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Its all about business and making money and its just normal for them to stick out on ways that could possibly generate them money even more and if this do talk
about more exhibition fights then there would be lots of fights like this in the future would happen.

This is why im not really that putting that much of interest but if we do based up on the hype that it do creates then theres no doubt that they can generate
lots of revenue with these fights.

Tyson vs Hollifield next? Possible if the management would see some money making opportunity with this fight.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 30, 2020, 07:38:57 AM

So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

If the promoters will push this, it's likely to happen I have seen Holyfield doing the mits and he is doing great with it, the two are the best protagonist in their era and they are good friends too, they like to be in shape and very competitive with the same passion for the sport, I like to see both of them both in the ring again, it will attract more attention more sales.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 29, 2020, 06:08:59 PM

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 29, 2020, 05:51:16 PM

maybe we can see a cross-over, Tyson fighting in UFC?

He said that he want to fight Jones again. But this could be an interesting cross-over if the known UFC fighter who likes fighting boxers.
But this will depend on Tyson if he wants to as well. Btw, if somebody is still not aware of that UFC fighter that likes to box, that's Conor.

Fighting Jones again? I think that's a bad idea, this is an exhibition fight, they do what people wanted to see, and people have already judge because they believe Tyson won the fight so there's no reason to prove it, maybe a another boxer with a good record during their pro days would give some excitement, someone who is willing to engage in a toe to toe fight.

I think he had fun and wanted to make that moment happen again. He was once in the professional peak of his career and I think he just felt again the spotlight and that's why he want to fight again. Whether it will be with Roy Jones again or with someone else.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 30, 2020, 07:38:57 AM

So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

We'll never know but he wants to fight again.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 30, 2020, 07:06:48 AM

That's an accusation, it was not rigged because we don't have an evidence, and this one does not go with our expectation, and it happen many times in sports, not only in boxing, so what we do now is just accept the result, if we lose, just move on and bet on other fight or games.

There is no point in any kind of accusation when it is an exhibition bout. If you score the fight Mike Tyson won the fight clearly but that is not how the fight is scored and they were given a draw and the important aspect of his bout is to raise money and they sure did that and Mike Tyson might return to do more exhibition fights as the amount of money he is able to make will be much greater than taking seminars Grin

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So in the end of Long waiting and for a Fight that may never happen again the Ending is a Big DRAW..Maybe Mike did not expect That Jones is still has that Stamina .to stand still after the last round.
So whats the next Big thing in Boxing?Tyson vs Hollifield?

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Quote from: mirakal on November 30, 2020, 05:48:40 AM

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 29, 2020, 10:45:09 PM

Tyson getting dragged into the Octagon is definitely one of the most ridiculous decisions Dana and other promoters and organizers could ever make. That is 100% stupid. But it could happen because there are foolish and greedy people in this world.

Tyson already opened up in the post fight interview that he is now into charity. And he could once again wear his gloves to fight in the name of charity but not as a professional fighter. And I guess he is very much reasonable on that statement.

Not unless its for the charity but Mike’s age going to UFC? I think promoters need to think twice before they execute a match, it could be a dangerous deal for him. People should respect these fighters, but with money talks they will ignore who these people are.

UFC is not good for him, he is a boxing superstar, a living legend but is already old, I mean old, he can't fight with the young boxers or UFC fighters, that's a real threat to his life. You know, money talk but Tyson should be satisfied with what he makes, I thought that fight was for charity, so I think that's enough for the moment.

He still got the moves and the power, but I mean they should respect his position on this matter. He only wants to fight for charity and not pursue another professional career. I like to see him fight because this last fight was still a good one, an entertaining one. But to fight MMA figthers and younger fighters I think that is too much. But again, this is his life, if he wants to fight then he can, as long as he could show that he still got it. You know the boxing world, you lose - reputation is affected.

He's got the moves of course. He's still the legendary Mike Tyson after all. But no boxer or MMA fighter wins fights just because of the moves. Mike Tyson still got the moves but he doesn't have the power anymore. He doesn't have the strength of the younger Mike Tyson.

I was actually amazed at how he's still very much comfortable wearing the gloves and swaying left and right just the like the young Mike would do but I have also seen the huge gap of the old Mike Tyson's punch and the his younger killer punch.

All that's left with Iron Mike is the spirit and some of his classic moves.

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Quote from: XCANA on November 30, 2020, 06:50:56 AM

Quote from: stadus on November 30, 2020, 05:22:51 AM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2020, 02:11:36 AM

Nate isn't really for boxing and this will make Jake Paul have more matches as he desires to fight again soon.

Yes, that was a devastating loss, he was not meant for boxing, and actually it was not an exhibition fight for those who don't know.
It was the 2nd fight of Jake Paul, and his record now is 2-0 (2KO).

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

Thanks for the share, before now i do believe that the match was an exhibition fight, but that apart, it seem this fight was rigged before it happened(before it took place) becasue Tyson was to be made the winner of the fight but unfortunately for me the fight was made not in favor of Tyson.

That's an accusation, it was not rigged because we don't have an evidence, and this one does not go with our expectation, and it happen many times in sports, not only in boxing, so what we do now is just accept the result, if we lose, just move on and bet on other fight or games.

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They really help the bookies and bull-shit bettors, we'll lost the golden spoon.

Regardless, just be on the winning side, rig or not, a win is a win, a lose is a lose.

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Quote from: stadus on November 30, 2020, 05:22:51 AM

Quote from: boyptc on November 30, 2020, 02:11:36 AM

Nate isn't really for boxing and this will make Jake Paul have more matches as he desires to fight again soon.

Yes, that was a devastating loss, he was not meant for boxing, and actually it was not an exhibition fight for those who don't know.
It was the 2nd fight of Jake Paul, and his record now is 2-0 (2KO).

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/912383

Thanks for the share, before now i do believe that the match was an exhibition fight, but that apart, it seem this fight was rigged before it happened(before it took place) becasue Tyson was to be made the winner of the fight but unfortunately for me the fight was made not in favor of Tyson. They really help the bookies and bull-shit bettors, we'll lost the golden spoon.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on November 30, 2020, 06:17:51 AM

Quote from: mirakal on November 30, 2020, 05:48:40 AM

Quote from: ecnalubma on November 30, 2020, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 29, 2020, 10:45:09 PM

Tyson getting dragged into the Octagon is definitely one of the most ridiculous decisions Dana and other promoters and organizers could ever make. That is 100% stupid. But it could happen because there are foolish and greedy people in this world.

Tyson already opened up in the post fight interview that he is now into charity. And he could once again wear his gloves to fight in the name of charity but not as a professional fighter. And I guess he is very much reasonable on that statement.

Not unless its for the charity but Mike’s age going to UFC? I think promoters need to think twice before they execute a match, it could be a dangerous deal for him. People should respect these fighters, but with money talks they will ignore who these people are.

UFC is not good for him, he is a boxing superstar, a living legend but is already old, I mean old, he can't fight with the young boxers or UFC fighters, that's a real threat to his life. You know, money talk but Tyson should be satisfied with what he makes, I thought that fight was for charity, so I think that's enough for the moment.

He still got the moves and the power, but I mean they should respect his position on this matter. He only wants to fight for charity and not pursue another professional career. I like to see him fight because this last fight was still a good one, an entertaining one. But to fight MMA figthers and younger fighters I think that is too much. But again, this is his life, if he wants to fight then he can, as long as he could show that he still got it. You know the boxing world, you lose - reputation is affected.

UFC is much more different than boxing. Though there are some players playing on both fields, they are technically different on how they achieve points and what part of body are used. So, I'd not compare these sports.
Mike Tyson is back on the ring after 15 years and he is an old man. This was just a charity stunt. His old bone might have got a few punches but it was not as serious as real boxing. I'm not sure if I like a legend as such being dragged back to ring for such stunt.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 30, 2020, 05:48:40 AM

Quote from: ecnalubma on November 30, 2020, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 29, 2020, 10:45:09 PM

Tyson getting dragged into the Octagon is definitely one of the most ridiculous decisions Dana and other promoters and organizers could ever make. That is 100% stupid. But it could happen because there are foolish and greedy people in this world.

Tyson already opened up in the post fight interview that he is now into charity. And he could once again wear his gloves to fight in the name of charity but not as a professional fighter. And I guess he is very much reasonable on that statement.

Not unless its for the charity but Mike’s age going to UFC? I think promoters need to think twice before they execute a match, it could be a dangerous deal for him. People should respect these fighters, but with money talks they will ignore who these people are.

UFC is not good for him, he is a boxing superstar, a living legend but is already old, I mean old, he can't fight with the young boxers or UFC fighters, that's a real threat to his life. You know, money talk but Tyson should be satisfied with what he makes, I thought that fight was for charity, so I think that's enough for the moment.

He still got the moves and the power, but I mean they should respect his position on this matter. He only wants to fight for charity and not pursue another professional career. I like to see him fight because this last fight was still a good one, an entertaining one. But to fight MMA figthers and younger fighters I think that is too much. But again, this is his life, if he wants to fight then he can, as long as he could show that he still got it. You know the boxing world, you lose - reputation is affected.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on November 29, 2020, 04:05:11 PM

Is this the new normal? Old boxers coming to life inside the ring? Wink

But if they are doing this for charity purposes, that's fine.

If they are able to make money without risking too much then let them make the money even in the name of charity, Mike Tyson is broke and not sure about the financial situation of Roy Jones and if they can still make money and make a good living then let this be the new normal, but i would like to see them wear head gears rather than getting hit in the head at this age.

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