Topic: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30) - page 3. (Read 981 times)
April 24, 2022, 10:38:32 AM
Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.
April 24, 2022, 04:42:45 AM
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.
People are motivated by defeat, not victory.
When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible. It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents. However, this is a false feeling. On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder. However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person. And that's bad...
At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes. Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight.
He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win.
I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.
You've got a point there mate, however, i do think that both fighters are too motivated to win this historic match as only a few boxers have unified the four prestigious belts though Shakur seems to underestimate Oscar sometimes but that is a part of selling off this fight.
Oscar has a lot of bad fights (fights where the outcome doesn't meet expectations) but that is all part of the game, all boxers knew that and forget about it as this upcoming fight is a different one.
Yeah, we are in a very interesting fight as rarely in boxing that we have a hard time predicting on who's gonna win and this is one of them though i lean a little bit towards Oscar because of him being a heavy puncher.
April 24, 2022, 04:13:06 AM
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.
Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.
People are motivated by defeat, not victory.
When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible. It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents. However, this is a false feeling. On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder. However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person. And that's bad...
At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes. Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight.
He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win.
I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.
April 23, 2022, 09:55:20 PM
I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.
The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank. Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.
If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.
The more they could just arrange something for a price since they are both in Top Rank. Big fight like this suppose to make money for Top Rank but I'm probably just too paranoid when it comes to this seeing how many underdog today from MMA to boxing had won their battle unexpectedly. Of course both of them can potentially beat each other. Who knows they may even be right about the odds they settle. If Shakur win by close points in UD, I would assume theory correct and Top rank helped him to go way over his head.
April 23, 2022, 06:26:05 PM
I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.
The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank. Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.
If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.
April 23, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.
I judge his attitude of confidence to have been willing to fight Valdez, so I don't think those words were meant to attack personally but we enjoyed it, because before the game starts there will be a lot of controversy news between the two, although one may be cold and choose to show in the punch in the boxing ring.Quote
Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
Based on the top rank, Valdez seems to dominate because he has a record of 23 KO and Stevenson with a score of 9 KO, so that in every boxing match, the attitude of the potential winner will maintain his ego after winning a boxing match. April 23, 2022, 11:37:12 AM
I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.
The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank. Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.
April 23, 2022, 11:15:03 AM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.
Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple?
He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.
Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
April 23, 2022, 10:10:05 AM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.
It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.
I agree that it's just their way to market the fight and it's already natural to see/hear some trashtalks before the fight but if indeed Shakur have said those things then I think it's already out of the line if Valdez didn't trashtalk him back or at least make some retaliations. I hope Shakur is not full of words and he can make it happen because he would be embarrassed if it turns out to be opposite.
Shakur may be the favorite to win the fight according to the sports bookies but this time, I'm going with the underdog which is Valdez.
April 22, 2022, 09:45:46 PM
But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.
Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.
What I meant by smart gamblers is those who is always willing to bet on the favorites. So it's based on the odds itself because they think that the bookies will always be right.
However, we want to get the best odds for us for every fight there is. There is this gamblers who want to bet on the underdogs on the otherside.
April 22, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.
It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.
Indeed trash talk seems like a PR marketing tactic which all fighters like to do before a fight. It does heat up the fans just before the fists start flying, maybe it even makes them cheer harder for their favorite fighter. But racist remarks might deeply hurt their fans and they might lose fans, even.
Obviously not a smart move in this case.
April 22, 2022, 01:30:30 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.
It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.
April 22, 2022, 01:11:04 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.
Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple?
April 22, 2022, 01:05:12 PM
Both fighters are battle-tested but I like Valdez aggressiveness and toughness I'm sure there will be thrash talks between the two, Valdez must win this fight convincingly to erase the Robson Conceição controversy and prove to the boxing fans that he is the real champion, there will be excitement in the build-up leading to this fight as both are champions.
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite
For the record, the controversy is that Valdez was caught with PEDs.
True, this is hard for bettors to decide where to put our money. As you have said, both are battle tested and coming from a win. And this is not just another fight as this is unification and I'm glad that both of this fighters have agreed.
I'm interested to see what will be the opening odds, as who will be the slight favorite.
April 22, 2022, 11:14:00 AM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.
April 20, 2022, 11:36:32 PM
But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.
Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.
April 20, 2022, 10:04:27 PM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.
Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.
Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, the style of Valdez is exciting, a brawler unlike Stevenson who is more of a defensive specialist.
So it's really surprises me as how a defensive fighter be the favorite.
But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.
April 20, 2022, 05:23:31 AM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.
Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.
Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated.
April 20, 2022, 05:23:25 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.
Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.
Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez.
April 20, 2022, 05:01:24 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.
Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.
Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.
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