Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 90. (Read 31627 times)

I think Bivol might have another fight for this year, I have to say this, but after a huge win against Canelo and then Ramirez, he hasn't followed it up for the second half of the year. It could be that he really wanted to have a rematch with Canelo but the money wasn't there for him.

So he has to move on for now and forget that payment, he needs to defend his belt. And if the unification fights come in, then good for him. So Beterbiev also wanted to have this fight. But the decision is still going to be in the hands of their promoters, to sit down and talk. If they don't want to because they have their own personal wars or what not, then this fight will be on the shelves for years.

That's what I'm trying to say, it's the boxing politics that's the main issue with this fight and we might not see a unification soon. Unless Bivol goes to Top Rank or Beterbiev moves out of Match Room and jump ship to TR.

For the HW clash, I think it's going to be a big test for AJ here, but I think Whyte is no longer in his prime and so AJ will have the perfect fight to bring his confidence back. And it could be true that Eddie Hearn is cherry picking Whyte for a potential AJ vs Deontay Wilder in the future.

Eddie Hearn officially announced that Joshua will fight Whyte for the second time,



https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-vs-dillian-whyte-rematch-official-august-12-o2-london--175926

So it will be on O2 arena, time for Joshua to get back on track here on Aug 12.

And probably the winner, and for sure Hearn is hoping that it will be Joshua, so that the fight with Wilder can be setup in December in Saudi Arabia, where there is a lot of money going to flow for sure, hehehe.

It's going to be a tug of war between the two, but if fights like Spence and Crawford could be set, then most likely they should step aside their difference and sit down. Maybe they just really hate each other and if that is the reason, then the real loser will be the fans.

Beterbiev still looks good even at his age and he could still fight, but certainly a fighter will have to slow down and maybe it's going to be too late when father time caught up with him. If that is the case then if might not be good to see this fight happening 2-3 years from now.

It will be an unfortunate news for the fans all over the globe if ever the unification fight between the two champions will not happen. I can already tell that the negotiations are going to be rough because none of them is willing to give up the right to organize the fight because it will be a big event that will surely generate them a lot of money.
And if things goes worse, Bob Arum should pave a way because Beterbiev is not getting any younger as he is already 38 years old and a couple of years from now, he will have to retire.

I want to see that fight, if it happens between Inoue and Casimero it will be something that everyone will be waiting for, this Inoue boxer for many is an example that the dark can happen when you have talent and train for it, we could say that Inoue is the sensation for now , not everyone gives up all their belts to move up a category, this is something I admire and from there one can intuit that this type of boxer cares about emerging, those belts, the triumphs come alone, there is no way to look for them if you lose, If you keep the focus on that sport you could say that you have the world at your feet.

Everyone is talking about Inoue, from so much speculation it has been said that Fulton himself is quite anxious to give him that fight for Inoue, according to him he is the ideal boxer for the fight, I don't know how confident he is, but he also You must remember that it is against Inoue, and if so, that fight will be very interesting, because I cannot deny that Inoue is a very complete boxer and since he is starting out in a new category, he wants to start with very good ppie, I cannot imagine how the preparation can be from Inoue, but it must be on another level.

Following that last statement, we know who's Arum is, and what he wants, right? unless Hearn will allow this to happen if money that involves will show up as diamond in his eyes, the chance of making this unification match would likely to take place. But, if there's nothing like that and Hearn is not interested in dealing with negotiation, then there's nothing that fans can do here.

They will both find another alternative and keep the belt that they've got and continue to fight a decent challenger that will matchup against them.

I don't think you are following because I certainly believe that we have already established that fact and already know beforehand that Artur Beterbiev is a Canadian citizen and has been living in the mentioned country for almost 20 years now. The only thing that connects him to Russia is that he was born at that country, nothing else.

For Dmitry Bivol, just like what I mentioned above, the unification match is not really possible at the moment because the sanctioning bodies are not allowing it to happen. Bob Arum of the Top Rank and Eddie Hearn of the DAZN is the least of their problems because Bob Arum himself already stressed before that the unification fight is only possible is if he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn and it is reasonable enough because it is them who holds three of the four belts existing.

Only if Canelo Alvarez accepts the reality and will accept the fact that he ain't the one who will dictate the fight anymore and will be having the smaller slice of the cake unlike in the first encounter where he got all the advantages in-terms of profits. But now, that is not the situation anymore and if he will not accept it, then I guess we will not see a rematch between Canelo and Bivol.

Only Bivol is affected though, but if they can have Bivol vs Canelo during the war then why stopping him from fighting again? Politics shouldn't meddle in. the sports in my opinion. Beterbiev is already fighting as a Canadian, just for your info. He has a Canadian citizenship,

https://www.sportsmanor.com/boxing-news-artur-beterbiev-nationality-is-he-canadian-or-russian/

The one that has been holding up this fight is their manager, Beterbiev is with Top Rank, under Bob Arum, and then Bivol with Match Room and Eddie Hearn. This two promotional manager is having a verbal war in the public.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-united-states-eddie-hearn-considered-joke--170936
https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-hits-back-bob-arum-top-rank-completely-finished-espn-contract-gone--174959

The unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev is not yet on the horizon as long as the war between Ukraine and Russia persist because the sanctioning bodies are not that inclined to make the fight into reality, right now, it has been said that Bivol is arranging his information so that he will not be connected in any Russian conflicts as that will give some halt in his careers, just like the Bivol vs Canelo fight, it's been said that up until now, the paycheck is still not on his hands.

Hopefully that will happen so that we can see that real abilities of the kid infront of the undisputed champion and so that there will be no speculation that Canelo is ducking the uprising star that will soon replace his title at SMW. And of course, so that the kid will be given the chance of a lifetime as he earned his place to be the next foe of Canelo.

We will know that once an update comes out, for now, there's none and the last declined that happen haven't been updated
so for that possible rematch, we might not see it for now.

But we are in this business and we know that money speaks louder than words. If there're attractable offers, we might see both camps
to negotiate and start the process again.

We can't conclude what will be the fate if rematch may happen or it will be forgotten along the way.

It might take sometime though as Canelo has bolted out of Matchroom. And so Bivol will have to move on and fine another fighter and not just solely chase Canelo. He could defend his belt and continue at 175 lbs. Of course, there is also a unification fight in the horizon for him with Arthur Beterbiev. So there's a lot of opportunity for him in the future.

Canelo as well will have his one fight this September. What's interesting is who will be his next opponent as there are news that it might be another Mexican in David Benavidez. And this want fight fans is hoping for May next year.

That might be the case why both camps are not making any noise regarding about the rematch, as of now, I wouldn't call it as the end of the road between the two of them because Canelo hasn't made an offer yet to contest the fight at 168 and to show that he is indeed eager to make the fight happen to regain his reputation because he only gave an offer at 175 and with the same purse split, that's why Bivol's camp declined automatically without any hesitation.

So, let's see if there will be some changes after Canelo's fight this coming September.

Well, these types of things in the world are happening very regularly, l things, moral values are being lost a lot, the way the world is going, that a child can decide if he is a man or a woman, are things that do not go with me, just I hope that they never legalize the fact that an adult can take advantage of a child because it would be the end of the world, now, a boxer as I said before should set an example, because he is an influential person, there are children, young people, adults who they admire and will copy what you do in their lives, because they see it as an example, to see these things is really disappointing.


Great news that you shared, thank you very much, in fact I have always said something, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only shows what he did in his training, obviously if the training was very intense the boxer became more stronger, more resistant, faster, because his preparation was very hard, a boxer like Fulton knows that he has to prepare very hard because who he is going to face is not just any boxer, he is one of the best in the world who does not mind giving up his prizes previous ones just to pass the category, I think that's why I admire Inoue so much.

What I can say is that if this Fulton has learned how to take advantage of time, it is because he is a very intelligent boxer, and in this instance any time, minutes, hours, days, months are very important if he knows how to take advantage of them with his training, great for He, now Inoue, for his part, I don't think he's completely resting, because of the discipline that the Japanese have, I say that every day he trains intensely.

Here another update:

Is Stephen Fulton vs Naoya Inoue flying under the radar




Source: https://proboxtv.com/news/Is-Stephen-Fulton-vs-Naoya-Inoue-flying-under-the-radar/en

July 25 is the deadline, personally I would not want to be in Fulton's shoes, sometimes a boxer throws a lot of flowers at himself, it is normal for them to overdo it and praise themselves, but the truth can be It may be that he has a slight advantage because he knows and has experience in his category, it is the only advantage he has over the Japanese, but the Japanese is quiet, he only acts and shows what he has in the ring, sometimes that is much more fearful than Talking too much, I have always said that he who talks a lot does little, and in boxing it applies, the boxers who challenge Inoue like this are not doing very well, perhaps the Japanese boxer has so much discipline that he handles provocations very well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fulton-inoue-delay-such-bad-thing-i-feel-like-im-taking-it-lot-more-serious--175805

Well, ain't that super good news for all of us boxing fans who cannot wait for this match to happen? It's getting near so the long wait is finally over.
It's better to witness a match that would be more entertaining where both boxers have prepared in their most conditioned body than a quicky.
He added more people to his camp, which means he is really serious about it now and he won't just let the trend's prediction happen. All these words coming from him makes those who will bet for Inoue doubt their analysis. Fulton ain't backing out, he will win it.

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But this Saturday, we have two title fights coming up in San Antonio.
Eimantas Stanionis versus Vergil Ortiz Jr. - WBA "Regular" Welterweight Title
Marlen Esparza versus Gabriela Celeste Alaniz - WBC + WBA + WBO Women's Flyweight titles
Place your bets and good luck.

Yes, because if he really care about his lost and he really wants the rematch he may bring the offer to Bivol and let him decide or give him all the favor for the sake of signing the contract, you are the one who lost the fight and not him. It's funny that you are still the one who's asking for your demands, just a way of doing excuses to make your publicity to hype up.

But in reality, fans are not interested in that kind of excuses and they all want to see you in the ring trying to regain your lost dignity.

Canelo doesn't have the fighting skills to beat Bivol and that's a fact my friend. He is just trying to offer rematch only as a publicity stunt to save his lost reputation. I'm quite sure that Bivol is not interested in a rematch, and he wont accept any proposals from Canelo. Canelo also knows that his tries will be useless and Bivol wont go for another contract. I think it should be better for Canelo to fight with someone whom he can win, and after many good wins the guy might get another chance to fight with Bivol.

Sports is actually a form of business with all the sponsors behind the athletes plus the charges on the tickets and the fee on the right to cover the match. 


It is funny how the camp of Canelo did not realized that Bivol has defeated their boxers and that they are the one wanting to prove their boxer so giving Bivol the same deal like the first one will really will not work out the same.  They should have increased the share of Bivol this time because in Bivol's camp, they think that there is nothing for them to prove against Canelo and it is Canelo that is the one wanting the rematch so Bivol's camp think that they should offer a better deal.

But I guess if ever the rematch will happen, the fight will no longer happen in any US soil as Bivol will have the same problems again regarding with his paycheck and will probably prefer in Middle East, Saudi Arabia I'd say.
Talking about that paycheck, I do hope that Bivol already got his rightful share because the earlier this year, it seems that Bivol is still waiting for that.


Canelo and his camp tried to make the rematch into reality but Bivol's camp declined especially the latter's manager because with what Canelo is offering, they don't feel that they are on the A-side because the deal offered was still the same when they fought for the first time. Which is not surprising that Bivol's camp declined because Canelo is still acting that they can still make the same deal when in-fact it is them who is chasing the Russian camp nowadays.