Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 86. (Read 31627 times)

It's one of the most beautiful Knockouts I've ever seen, honestly if he did that, well, he's making noise, I've seen on one of the sports TV channels that it's only about boxing, but the name seems common to me, but I'm glad because if they want to compare him to make a fight Against those two monsters, it's because the boxer is at the level, and I like this because we all know the trajectory of Crawford and Spence , we Know the rivalry between them , it's Obvious that they Can be done There are many things Here , if a Boxer like this comes out as Promising as they Say , it's good that he gets trained with the Greats, just Like the great champions come out.


Well, personally, I think that here the one who can win and must win is Crawford, more like the way Spence refers to him, he is a boxer who has a lot of confidence in himself, it's not bad, but I think that sometimes Spence talks about more and I don't like it, sometimes he falls like something big that he does, I prefer things to be done differently, we all know that Crawford was very aware of this fight, and he was looking for it, it would be very Ugly that he lost the fight, for me this boxer has not rested, for me he has been training to face Spence and if so, then have Spence, because he is a boxer who really wants to do things well, and as I said , it would be in very bad taste if he fell quickly , because he would Lose his reputation to a large Extent.

This is very interesting:

Photos: Terence Crawford open workout at UFC Performance Institute






Source: https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/gallery/photos-terence-crawford-open-workout-ufc-pi-before-errol-spence-jr-fight

There are many more photos, but I like Spence's style, because here you can clearly see his hunger for success, of course I cannot deny that he is also doing something else to attract attention and that Spence can show something, it is not bad, what this boxer does is trying to demonstrate that things are and have to be that way, that a boxing fighter does not take away from fights anymore, as I have said on several occasions, if you are a boxer you have to be aware of all revenge, because it is the safest, you always have to accept rematches, that's what boxing is for, otherwise I think it doesn't make sense to be, for me this is super improtnate.

The fame of some boxers sometimes blinds them, and money, but they must not forget that they come from a sport that has made them grow, that saying no to a rematch looks bad, and what is even worse is that they are forced by a clause, they must always be willing, and don't go to the instances that Crawford came asking for a fight with Spence.

I also have the same sentiment. Actually, both boxers are really equal and par to me it's just that because of Spence's drama since then, I considered that as the most reason why people don't like him and they are disregarding the fact about Spence's real strength. But anyhow, what matter here is, the fight will now happen and just a few sleeps to go after waiting for several years in the making.

I don't see there will be any big changes in the odds as the fight is approaching (provided no such event will happen at both camps e.g. unexpected or sudden injuries etc.) and Crawford will remain as Favorite.

Terence Crawford @ 1.62
Errol Spence @ 2.25

Yes, they are still undecided because they know it can go either way, 50/50. Both are great fighters, undefeated, have great trainers as well. So it's going to be very difficult to predict although Crawford remains the favourite in this fight.

Spence though will be the bigger guy and for me he could be the stronger fighter as well. Nevertheless, Crawford is used to be the smaller man but he has boxing IQ and can adjust during the middle of the fight. So we will see, hype is building up slowly here and we will have close to a week before the fight.

I agree to that, there are many opinions about who's going to win in this upcoming fight, both Spence and Crawfords are holding the title in this division and both possess a dominating fight before this, we will hear different perspectives from people who manage to fight against them and also from those who are analysing this upcoming fight.

For me, we will only know what will happen when they already throw punches against each other and how they will perform during the fight, whoever win the fight as long as there's no controversy for sure the hypes in his career will hype more.

Many experts are divided on this fight, it could go either way and it will go to who wants it most, I'm sure their corners have scouted each other to see something that will give them an edge, this is going to be a very technical fight because both fighters carry the same skill, power and ring generalship boxing fans will not going to miss the fight, only two days, my excitement is double because one of the fighter I admire is fighting on their undercard which is Donaire, I expect both fighters to go for knock out but if the fight is too close the championship rounds could decide the fight

^Spence versus Crawford is still being boosted in the market in both social media and sports news outlets. I think they can pass that number but they need that one big trend that could make some noise about their fight.
And, this is a big title match unlike the Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis boxing fight so it should be given that many boxing fans should be buying their pay-per-view now or tickets for the match. (I doubt there's still one available.)

Anyway, here is Yordenis Ugas's thought about the upcoming big fight.
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/how-does-yordenis-ugas-see-errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-going/ugdfdbjzevj212kb1uhbepl7j
I am with him on this analysis. I cannot even tell who will win this match because both have their strengths. If this goes at a longer fight, Spence might win it because of the number of punches that he will throw. Crawford on the other hand would need to be aggressive to avoid that. Sure he is smart, but judges might see it differently and might rely on the number of thrown punches.

Numbers are out of the Garcia vs Davis fight, and it was reported that it made $100 million.



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1681758159889891328

And then Ryan Garcia made $30 Million ++, Obviously Gervonta Davis made more $40 million ++. So the next superfight is Spence-Crawford, and so we will see how big the money will be for them and maybe it's hard to topple the numbers that Garcia-Davis did here.

Whether if Haney will choose to stay at 135 to fight Shakur and Davis respectively or fight at 140 to face Regis, people will stay have a say in his decisions and it's not that surprising anymore as they will always see a fault in your decisions. What Haney needs to do is to weigh these things carefully because the outcome will of course dictate his career and any boxer wouldn't want that for sure because being at the top is not an easy quest and it will not get easier once you're on top because all boxers will now target you as they also want that throne. So, hopefully Devin Haney will choose what he feels is the right thing to do.

Even if Devin Haney will choose to fight Regis Prograis at 140 instead of Shakur Stevenson at 135, it will just be a temporary thing because he cannot evade the mandatory as that will be pursued again once he finishes his fight with Prograis. Fate will always bring Haney back at 135 to fight Shakur and eventually, he will have to choose which belt will he carry and vacate if he will be successful in his campaign at 140. Tough choice but he needs to make a decision.

Loma vs Shakur fight will surely be made if in case Devin Haney will vacate the belts upon his climb to the next weight class, but as far as I know while there are still no signs that Haney is climbing for good, Bob Arum wanted Haney to try 140 lbs. first without vacating his belts while his weight can still make it as Arum knows how risky it is and it's much better for the both sides if he is still a champion.

But if Haney will not make any move towards the next weight class, hopefully he can cater Tank Davis or Shakur Stevenson as this guys will be a huge waste if they cannot have their chances to fight for the undisputed title.

I also prefer Haney to face Shakur. Earlier, Shakur already declined Haney's laughable offer of 25/75 which means the undisputed champion does not want the smoke by offering something he knew is not acceptable. But now that the WBC announced the mandate we will see if Haney will accept the mandate of just moving up against either lineal and WBO champion Teofimo Lopez or WBC champ, Regis Prograis.  The WBC has no very clear split sharing as it might announce as high as 70/30 for the champion to even 50/50 depending on the situation.

I really want to see Haney face Shakur but my prediction on this is he will move up and face Teofimo Lopez for a chance to become a 2-division lineal champion. WBC champion, Prograis may look easier due to his last fight's poor performance but Lopez also had bad performances before an upset over Josh Taylor. Teofimo Lopez is also the bigger money fight than Prograis unless Matchroom and DAZN will overprice it in order to convince Haney to return to them. 

Money wise fighting Shakur will bring him higher anticipated paycheck while career wise, taking Prograis may give him a decent chance to continue holding a title, though if he's thinking about hype and respect as a fighter taking that risk against Shakur is really something that fans will love to witness, with the time frame that being given for his camp to decide, only one option or else his belt will be stripped.

Expecting something aside from avoiding hahaha, I mean looking to see that he will take the tougher road in facing Shakur.

I think that WBC mandate is tough for Haney as he will face one of the future face of boxing, Shakur has all the  tools to defeat/upset Haney but of course the money is there and if ever he will defeat Shakur, he will gain the respect he is longing for.

Prograis is an easy fight for him but if he goes up in weight now without fight Shakur or Davis, people might think that he avoid the fights that he should have taken in his prime, so yeah, Shakur is the way to go if he want to entertain his fans/boxing world.

Man, that's something Haney's camp should deeply think about. Fighting Shakur and winning it will give Haney more fame and money while moving up one weight against Regis Prograis will give him the easy way according to them because of Prograis's slow movements. I will not be so sure about that.

Although they say Haney has already decided he will be fighting Prograis, it seems like his confidence in Prograis from his last Twitter posts is giving them the doubt to decide clearly. It could go south, that's a possibility, this is boxing. They cannot just underestimate Prograis because I think he is also ready to fight anyone.

"Regis Prograis Says Devin Haney "stuck Between Rock And A Hard Place"
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/07/regis-prograis-says-devin-haney-stuck-between-rock-and-a-hard-place/
That's the best way to define their status now. But they will have to decide or else his belt will be stripped.

I also would rather see Haney fight Stevenson first, defend his WBC belt or whatever the other body has mandated for Haney, that's how it should be and not the other way around. Although he might be given special privilege since he is a unified champion.

But it make sense for Haney to go after Stevenson, I mean Shakur is going up in weight and wanted to make a name for himself as a Top Rank boxer. Haney already bolted out of Bob Arum, but I think this is still doable as they are no bad blood between the two. And Shakur has been hyping his name and calling Haney already thru social media.

He should consider where the money will flow more, as people deserve to witness an exciting fight. Shakur vs Haney is indeed an appealing matchup, even better than his fight with Loma, given that both fighters are currently in their prime. While Haney may have a slight advantage due to his size, Shakur's intelligence and high ring IQ make this fight truly unpredictable, and that's precisely what the fans want to see.

Yes, WBC now has mandated Haney to fight Shakur. So Haney has until Friday to decide whether he wanted to pursue that fight or not. If he goes to 140 lbs, then it will be Regis Prograis waiting for him.

Hard decision for Haney?

Less risk for him is Prograis obviously.

High risk is Shakur. But definitely more money in the table perhaps. But I think Shakur has a good chance to pull an upset.

Haney's victory over Lomachenco is somehow controversial.  Fans and many other boxers think Loma should have won the fight so the idea of Loma being a leftover should be out of topic.  Loma can still box and infact I still believe he is way better than Devin Haney.

If ever Haney goes up in weight Division then it would be interesting to see the one left behind fighting for the vacant titles.  More probably we might see a ranking competition on this and will have elimination fights for those vacant belts.  This will be an eye feast since we will see these elites fighting and eliminating each other for the title if ever the boxing councils prepare such an event.

Yeah, I think Shakur has been calling Haney or even Tank Davis for a fight at 135 lbs.

But if Haney goes up to 140 lbs, then it's going to be a ramble as he will vacant all the belts obviously. So it will be Stevenson, Loma and Tank Davis left at 135 lbs and most likely, a Loma vs Stevenson can be made easily as both are under Top Rank if I'm not mistaken.

This is even more exciting as Loma is still not considered a leftover despite his loss to Haney. It was a close fight, and some believe Loma actually won. So if this fight were to happen, it would give Loma a chance to prove himself once again. And in case he beats Shakur, it would be a significant success for him, causing people to forget his loss to Haney.