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Quote from: Sanitough on November 13, 2021, 03:47:30 PM

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

No one knows if script do really exist, it's just an assumption since it's money making match, the talks between handlers and promoters are behind the closets, they just start to advertise the fight when everything already been arrange, who knows what are the possible arrangements that being done? Tongue

Just for fun, i will follow you with Fury, he might have better advantage that's why he's been the favorite.

But with unproven scripts Grin

what will happen inside the ring is already concluded Roll Eyes

but who's the creator of it? hahaha Grin

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Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?

You cant cross out the possibilities or chances because when it comes to money then someone could really risk up something or done anything that they haven't done before even if its against on principle but with money then it could really be changed up everytime.

I would like to know as well if there are some source out of those statement above and its true that it couldn't really be proven
out unless if those are really been happening or said.

They are making money out of this arrangement which it is just normal that they would be following up some script.

I'd take that as a good explanation though, yes, as long as there's money involved a fighter could just act based on the script, but then again it's just our speculation now as no one has proven that there's really a script to follow.

In this fight that both are undefeated, I don't know who gets favored here based on the script, but I'll go with the favorites which is Tommy Fury.

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Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?

You cant cross out the possibilities or chances because when it comes to money then someone could really risk up something or done anything that they haven't done before even if its against on principle but with money then it could really be changed up everytime.

I would like to know as well if there are some source out of those statement above and its true that it couldn't really be proven
out unless if those are really been happening or said.

They are making money out of this arrangement which it is just normal that they would be following up some script.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 13, 2021, 06:39:14 AM

Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

Do you have any source of your statement or it's just only speculation?

We all know that exhibition fights could be scripted, but without a basis, we cannot conclude that someone has intentionally lose the fight just to make money. Also, we know that it's the money prize which is the reason why they are fighting but why would a fighter allow to be beaten in the ring if he can fight and win?

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 12, 2021, 10:20:52 PM

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2021, 04:41:12 PM

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Because Fury has undefeated record and the fight aren't exhibition like Paul, that's the reason he's favorite here.

Woodley is very aggresive on UFC, but on boxing it doesn't looks good as his foot movement is weird. Probably because this is his first career on boxing, so we can't blame him or probably it's scripted.

Good luck mate with your bet, of course there's a will be upset here since Paul can control his opponent with money Grin

Before looking on Fury's record, check who he was fighting against Cheesy

All of them were punching bags. If Jake fought them, he would have same undefeated record. Check this topic for my posts, I've posted records of Fury opponents there. All of his opponent were boxers with 0-2 wind and 10-120 losses.

Woodley - he was there only for the money. He is in bad financial situation. If he would be offered more for a victory over Jake, he would have finished that fight in first rounds.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2021, 04:41:12 PM

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Because Fury has undefeated record and the fight aren't exhibition like Paul, that's the reason he's favorite here.

Woodley is very aggresive on UFC, but on boxing it doesn't looks good as his foot movement is weird. Probably because this is his first career on boxing, so we can't blame him or probably it's scripted.

Good luck mate with your bet, of course there's a will be upset here since Paul can control his opponent with money Grin

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Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

Seems to me that you're right, but I think that there must be some level gap between the two that helps in distinguishing which one is least mediocre. I guess we'll just have to watch it and see if there's some fun to this fight. It pains me to watch two kids duke it out which is the same thing as this match.

To see an entertainment of course the match is worth watching, but to see a real boxing fight it seems we will not find this match, even though jack paul has so far managed to beat several opponents in the ring but none of his opponents are from the world of boxing, while tommy Fury, I don't think he has anything to be proud of in the boxing world except for his big brother name, Tyson Fury.

All the fights of Jake Paul favor him but this time around I'm sure it will not. We like to see someone who could potentially beat his ass and that's gonna be Tommy Fury. In terms of experience, Fury is more experience compared to Jake Paul so most probably this will be the first time we will see Jake Paul as an underdog in the betting sites....

You know, we shouldn't even be discussing about experience here because both don't have enough. It is not worth comparing experiences here. One has 4 wins. The other one has 7. 7 is clearly the upper hand but if you take a look at the opponents 4 of them hasn't won a match yet. The only opponent of Tommy who had considerable wins at 10 also had 102 losses. So really, these two mediocre boxers couldn't be assessed according to their past boxing matches. They are all nothing but sparring entertainment. There was no fight whatsoever.

The only thing that makes Tommy the favorite is that Tyson is his brother. Whatever that means.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 31, 2021, 03:57:08 AM

Personally, I think Tommy Fury is going to knock him out in the first 2 rounds, but I didn't think he'd win the last fight either...

I'm really doubtful about Tommy doing anything here. He looked awful in his last fight, and I think Tommy probably has a lot of his hype because he's related to Tyson, and he looked like a greek god. Other than that, I've not seen a whole lot of special things from him. I was more confident with Tyron Woodley winning, than I'm with Tommy put it that way.

I'm not sure if Jake will be able to knock Tommy out, but I think he'll out point him. I can't believe I'm actually considering putting money down on Jake Paul to win a professional boxing fight against another professional boxer. Seriously, I can't remember Tyron having such good odds despite being a UFC champion at some point, why on earth has Tommy been given the clear favourite?

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Quote from: Obito on November 11, 2021, 11:39:27 PM

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Quote from: Obito on November 10, 2021, 08:13:46 PM

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Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

Seems to me that you're right, but I think that there must be some level gap between the two that helps in distinguishing which one is least mediocre. I guess we'll just have to watch it and see if there's some fun to this fight. It pains me to watch two kids duke it out which is the same thing as this match.

To see an entertainment of course the match is worth watching, but to see a real boxing fight it seems we will not find this match, even though jack paul has so far managed to beat several opponents in the ring but none of his opponents are from the world of boxing, while tommy Fury, I don't think he has anything to be proud of in the boxing world except for his big brother name, Tyson Fury.

All the fights of Jake Paul favor him but this time around I'm sure it will not. We like to see someone who could potentially beat his ass and that's gonna be Tommy Fury. In terms of experience, Fury is more experience compared to Jake Paul so most probably this will be the first time we will see Jake Paul as an underdog in the betting sites....

and as I said, we have the odds already and Jake Paul is indeed the underdog.

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Paul vs. Fury betting odds
Jake Paul: +165
Tommy Fury: -185
Draw: +1400

source : Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury fight date, time, PPV price, odds & location for 2021 boxing match

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Quote from: Obito on November 11, 2021, 11:39:27 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 10, 2021, 09:07:26 PM

Quote from: Obito on November 10, 2021, 08:13:46 PM

~snip

Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

Seems to me that you're right, but I think that there must be some level gap between the two that helps in distinguishing which one is least mediocre. I guess we'll just have to watch it and see if there's some fun to this fight. It pains me to watch two kids duke it out which is the same thing as this match.

To see an entertainment of course the match is worth watching, but to see a real boxing fight it seems we will not find this match, even though jack paul has so far managed to beat several opponents in the ring but none of his opponents are from the world of boxing, while tommy Fury, I don't think he has anything to be proud of in the boxing world except for his big brother name, Tyson Fury.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 10, 2021, 09:07:26 PM

Quote from: Obito on November 10, 2021, 08:13:46 PM

~snip

Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

Seems to me that you're right, but I think that there must be some level gap between the two that helps in distinguishing which one is least mediocre. I guess we'll just have to watch it and see if there's some fun to this fight. It pains me to watch two kids duke it out which is the same thing as this match.

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I don't like the idea that he's being mixed with Tommy Fury by saying "fellow" undefeated boxer, pretty sure that Jake Paul is on a whole another level of mediocrity of a fighter because I feel like he's not that good of a fighter and I feel like he's not even serious about getting into boxing in the first place. If this was a real fight, pretty sure that Tommy would've demolished this man easily but they need to have some showmanship I guess.

Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

And probably that's why they are pitted against each other, LOL So we will see who is the worst boxer between the two.

But so far it looks like majority is favouring Tommy here, at least boxing fans are not that biased and know there sports expect for those who voted on Jake Paul. Grin

In any case these two are going to make good money here so I think it's ok for both to be called worst boxers.

I guess the number one reason why people are favoring Tommy Fury is that Tommy is the younger brother of Tyson Fury. And many think that this man is also a boxer like his brother. But he is not. He has boxed in the past against failed joke boxers and now he is facing against another joke in Jake Paul.

Another reason why many are supporting Tommy is that Jake Paul has been annoying the boxing fandom for quite some time. I for one would want Jake Paul to get badly beaten up or knocked out.

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I feel like we aren't seeing much Jake Paul before this fight. Usually he's all over the internet doing promo. I think he's probably sitting in a gym 24/7 working on himself so that he doesn't get knocked out. I really don't think he stands much of a chance though. I wonder if we'll see more of the usual Jake Paul antics as we get closer to the fight. I must say I'm surprised that he hasn't done something crazy to make headlines. Surely someone in his camp is busy trying to think of some way to promote this fight in an off the wall manner.

The thing what worries me the most is that a points win will not be enough for him to be considered as a real win on Jake Paul. I think his dad is more worried about this fight than Tyson his fight with Wilder. I think it will be a one sided points win for Tommy Fury. But the only legit win for him is a knock out.

You are saying knock out as if Jake Paul is just a baby fighter, how on earth will you even think of knock out despite the fact that it is possible in a game like this but not with Jake Paul you should think of that one.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 10, 2021, 04:04:49 PM

I feel like we aren't seeing much Jake Paul before this fight. Usually he's all over the internet doing promo. I think he's probably sitting in a gym 24/7 working on himself so that he doesn't get knocked out. I really don't think he stands much of a chance though. I wonder if we'll see more of the usual Jake Paul antics as we get closer to the fight. I must say I'm surprised that he hasn't done something crazy to make headlines. Surely someone in his camp is busy trying to think of some way to promote this fight in an off the wall manner.

The thing what worries me the most is that a points win will not be enough for him to be considered as a real win on Jake Paul. I think his dad is more worried about this fight than Tyson his fight with Wilder. I think it will be a one sided points win for Tommy Fury. But the only legit win for him is a knock out.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 10, 2021, 10:57:22 PM

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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.

Yes, everyone has a chance to win. But those who are stronger and more experienced usually stands out.
This fight is not may not be just like what his previous fights looks like. This is gonna be a serious one. Jake Paul is fighting against a young and hungry boxer.
Jake Paul has no updates about his fight against Tommy in his YouTube channel yet. Maybe he's not focusing on his conditioning because he knew himself that this could be one of the most toughest fight he'll ever have.

Jake Paul may not need to brag much about the coming fight and that may be his reason not to update his YouTube channel though this just my opinion which might be true or not but before December 18th we shall see if he will update his YouTube channel. Still for me Jake Paul will take the lead come 18th December.

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Quote from: TheEconomists on November 10, 2021, 07:35:32 PM

It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.

Yes, everyone has a chance to win. But those who are stronger and more experienced usually stands out.
This fight is not may not be just like what his previous fights looks like. This is gonna be a serious one. Jake Paul is fighting against a young and hungry boxer.
Jake Paul has no updates about his fight against Tommy in his YouTube channel yet. Maybe he's not focusing on his conditioning because he knew himself that this could be one of the most toughest fight he'll ever have.

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I don't like the idea that he's being mixed with Tommy Fury by saying "fellow" undefeated boxer, pretty sure that Jake Paul is on a whole another level of mediocrity of a fighter because I feel like he's not that good of a fighter and I feel like he's not even serious about getting into boxing in the first place. If this was a real fight, pretty sure that Tommy would've demolished this man easily but they need to have some showmanship I guess.

Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

And probably that's why they are pitted against each other, LOL So we will see who is the worst boxer between the two.

But so far it looks like majority is favouring Tommy here, at least boxing fans are not that biased and know there sports expect for those who voted on Jake Paul. Grin

In any case these two are going to make good money here so I think it's ok for both to be called worst boxers.

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Quote from: Obito on November 10, 2021, 08:13:46 PM

I don't like the idea that he's being mixed with Tommy Fury by saying "fellow" undefeated boxer, pretty sure that Jake Paul is on a whole another level of mediocrity of a fighter because I feel like he's not that good of a fighter and I feel like he's not even serious about getting into boxing in the first place. If this was a real fight, pretty sure that Tommy would've demolished this man easily but they need to have some showmanship I guess.

Frankly, these two men are both mediocre in terms of boxing. We cannot expect much from both of them actually if we are to consider them as real boxing fighters. As boxers they have not proven anything at all. Of course we can see that both of them have perfect boxing records, untarnished, undefeated. But look at their past matches. They are all nothing but entertainment shows. They're not real boxers.

Tommy Fury is no better than Jake Paul in his status as a boxer. They both belong to the same level of mediocrity.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 10, 2021, 04:04:49 PM

I feel like we aren't seeing much Jake Paul before this fight. Usually he's all over the internet doing promo. I think he's probably sitting in a gym 24/7 working on himself so that he doesn't get knocked out. I really don't think he stands much of a chance though. I wonder if we'll see more of the usual Jake Paul antics as we get closer to the fight. I must say I'm surprised that he hasn't done something crazy to make headlines. Surely someone in his camp is busy trying to think of some way to promote this fight in an off the wall manner.

For sure, we might see some stunts being pulled by Jake Paul here to create more hype about the time and that the boxing media will take about it, and it could be hilarious and maybe it will get on Tommy's skin. And we all know that's how the brothers are being the fight, antics during a media face-off.

Why not? he might be working his ass off in the gym 24/7, however, I don't think it will be enough to pull an upset in this fight. Too much pride on Tommy Fury to lose this one.

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I don't like the idea that he's being mixed with Tommy Fury by saying "fellow" undefeated boxer, pretty sure that Jake Paul is on a whole another level of mediocrity of a fighter because I feel like he's not that good of a fighter and I feel like he's not even serious about getting into boxing in the first place. If this was a real fight, pretty sure that Tommy would've demolished this man easily but they need to have some showmanship I guess.

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