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Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.

As I have said, whether this boxing match is recorded as being a professional fight or not does not matter that much. Whether this is considered an amateur match or simply an exhibition does not matter. What matters is the fact that these wannabe boxers are not really professional boxers in its strict sense.

This is subjective so this is my opinion. Other people could have a different opinion on this. As per the record, of course these kinds of fights are reflecting on their professional boxing experiences. But I still don't consider them real boxing fighters.

Jake Paul is definitely in the amateur department, Tommy Fury is considered as a pro-boxer but with little experience, I might just consider betting for Jake Paul on this one because of Jake's actual potential, I just hate how some of their fights are rigged, especially Logan Paul though I really think they do this purely for entertainment and for the money, betting on these fights are risky as it may look like a fixed match.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 26, 2021, 09:24:09 PM

Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.

As I have said, whether this boxing match is recorded as being a professional fight or not does not matter that much. Whether this is considered an amateur match or simply an exhibition does not matter. What matters is the fact that these wannabe boxers are not really professional boxers in its strict sense.

This is subjective so this is my opinion. Other people could have a different opinion on this. As per the record, of course these kinds of fights are reflecting on their professional boxing experiences. But I still don't consider them real boxing fighters.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 27, 2021, 02:20:25 PM

With the exhibition matches, the real boxing importance keeps shrinking. Just our forum discussion itself a proof, because we are discussing much about the exhibition matches that are played than the real boxing. Somehow the matches aren't played with unmatched opponents.

There are real boxing events threads out there. I think only 2-3 threads are existing exhibition matches here. Some professional boxing event threads are just closed recently because the event was now ended with the recent one between Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter, Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant, etc.

We don't have a choice but to accept that more exhibitions matches will be organized in the future.

But as far as this thread is concerned, the subject we are discussing here is sanctioned and tagged as a professional match.

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Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury, billed as One Will Fall, is an upcoming professional boxing match contested between Jake Paul and Tommy Fury. The bout will take place on December 18, 2021, at the Amalie Arena in Tampa, Florida.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 27, 2021, 02:20:25 PM

With the exhibition matches, the real boxing importance keeps shrinking. Just our forum discussion itself a proof, because we are discussing much about the exhibition matches that are played than the real boxing. Somehow the matches aren't played with unmatched opponents.

There is equal opportunity for everyone and this is the best time for boxing as we saw more fan favorite fights and high level fights in the past 7 years than we used to see in the last two decades where no one even bothered to follow boxing. Things are changing and the fans are back watching the event globally and these side shows does not shrink any interest from the fans.

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Quote from: stadus on November 27, 2021, 09:39:04 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 27, 2021, 07:52:27 AM

If Jake is so fond of boxing, he should train more and do more amateur boxing fights, instead of moving to professionals or having exhibition matches. If he posses himself more like a youtuber, then he should to say loud words about being greatest or be able to knockout anyone. He can knockout anyone on the street, but that is more about luck.

I don't hate Jake Paul, it's an exhibition fight, anyone can fight as long as you play the rules which are obviously different compared to professional boxing. Some fans maybe hated exhibition fights as it's taking the opportunity of the real boxing fights since people now are willing to spend money just to see a meaningless exhibition fight, but it's their right, it's their money so we have to respect them too.

With the exhibition matches, the real boxing importance keeps shrinking. Just our forum discussion itself a proof, because we are discussing much about the exhibition matches that are played than the real boxing. Somehow the matches aren't played with unmatched opponents.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 27, 2021, 07:52:27 AM

If Jake is so fond of boxing, he should train more and do more amateur boxing fights, instead of moving to professionals or having exhibition matches. If he posses himself more like a youtuber, then he should to say loud words about being greatest or be able to knockout anyone. He can knockout anyone on the street, but that is more about luck.

I don't hate Jake Paul, it's an exhibition fight, anyone can fight as long as you play the rules which are obviously different compared to professional boxing. Some fans maybe hated exhibition fights as it's taking the opportunity of the real boxing fights since people now are willing to spend money just to see a meaningless exhibition fight, but it's their right, it's their money so we have to respect them too.

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If Jake is so fond of boxing, he should train more and do more amateur boxing fights, instead of moving to professionals or having exhibition matches. If he posses himself more like a youtuber, then he should to say loud words about being greatest or be able to knockout anyone. He can knockout anyone on the street, but that is more about luck.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 26, 2021, 09:24:09 PM

Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.

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I'll admit though, I would be interested in a Jake Paul vs Mcgregor fight only for the inevitable knock out. Though, I'd probably still watch the highlights.

I'm not even interested with all of the highlights. I just wanna see the knockout. But would this possibly happen? Will the contract allow it? Lol.

i see no reason why would not the contract allow the fight to knock one another .
Boxing and MMA are both seeking for knocking out of opponent so with Mcgregor and Paul are both fighters then this can happen at any chances given.
though I doubt that Paul can Knock down Conor just like that.

Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

I can still remember how Connor, a man who had gone through all the rigorous MMA trainings for many years, looked like a frail young kid inside the boxing ring.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 18, 2021, 05:12:14 PM

This is the first time he's squaring up against a real boxer who isn't retired. Honestly, this is the make or break moment for Jake Paul. Either he wins and proves that he can compete at a high level professionally in the boxing ring, or he loses to the younger brother of a prize fighter and everyone can say that this gimmick is behind us. Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.

I don't think Jake is actually going to go far in boxing, but there's hope in a lot of peoples mind that Tommy could go far, although I'm not one of those people. I think Tommy losing here hurts him a lot more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul is still relevant even if he loses, he'll pick up a few more celebrity past it fighters, and collect the money. However, if Tommy loses that's his career probably over.

I think most people are praying that the circus ends at this point, but as I've been quite vocal about; I really don't have a lot of confidence in Tommy doing the job, and I'm afraid these types of match ups, and the hyping up of Jake Paul will continue long after this fight.

There are many ways in which this could end, however one way in which this could happen is if one of those fights ends up with someone being seriously injured, after all boxing is not like other sports in which damaging your opponent is forbidden and it is penalized, in fact that is the whole point of boxing.

Even if there is some sort of agreement among the participants to not harm each other, all what is needed is a punch to cause serious injuries, if this were to happen I am sure these kind of exhibition fights will end and only the professionals will be allowed to get on the ring once again.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 25, 2021, 10:14:51 AM

Those who havent seen this conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfWkxUiak8

Why would Tommy called his relatives to the conference ? He is a big boy, he can handle things by himself. Otherwise it looks like a parent meeting at school Cheesy

I am just joking, they just call them for hype.

Well they're technically his trainers and Tyson will be in his corner for the fight so it's usual that a fighter's training partners are at a conference. John can't fly to the States and would be there if they could, but he needs to chill out as he's going to get himself in trouble. Trying to square up to a TV monitor of Jake was quite funny though.

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Btw, we are in 2021, why their video call is so laggy? This conference was unfair, it was 1 vs 3 Cheesy

To make this show more entertaining, Jake should fight all of them same time on the ring.

Well he was on his phone in his pool in Costa Rica. Probably not the best wifi. He probably should have done this in front of a computer as it was a shambles because of the lagging etc.

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Tommy Fury is the brother of the world famous Tyson Fury. He is a professional boxer and is serious about winning.

Jake Paul is physically very strong. He recently defeated Tyrone Woodley. However, Tyrone Woodley is not a professional boxer. Tyrone Woodley is a former UFC fighter. That is, he owns boxing techniques, but his main technique is wrestling. And the fight was held according to boxing rules.

And here Jake Paul will be confronted by a professional boxer strongly motivated to win.

In my opinion, Tommy Fury will have a convincing victory over Jake Paul.

I hope the same as I am tired of these fights with Paul brothers. They don't bring anything good to the boxing sport. This will the first fight that Jake Paul is fighting against a real boxer and I sure hope that Tommy Fury can deliver what we expect and knock him out in the first round Grin

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I think they bring a lot of eyeballs to the sport and can be quite entertaining, especially when anything can happen. You'll have people tuning in because they want to see Jake lose and get knocked out and you'll also have people watching for the same to happen to Tommy. There's a lot at stake for Tommy so that adds an extra element to the fight for me. If Jake actually wins this fight then his stock will go up massively and who knows who he'll go on to fight next and like I've said above don't be surprised if his next fight is someone huge.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 25, 2021, 10:44:30 PM

Quote from: Welsh on November 25, 2021, 09:12:59 PM

I'll admit though, I would be interested in a Jake Paul vs Mcgregor fight only for the inevitable knock out. Though, I'd probably still watch the highlights.

I'm not even interested with all of the highlights. I just wanna see the knockout. But would this possibly happen? Will the contract allow it? Lol.

i see no reason why would not the contract allow the fight to knock one another .
Boxing and MMA are both seeking for knocking out of opponent so with Mcgregor and Paul are both fighters then this can happen at any chances given.
though I doubt that Paul can Knock down Conor just like that.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 25, 2021, 09:12:59 PM

I'll admit Jake Paul did grab my attention at first, but I think I agree, and I think most of the boxing community would agree, we are all getting a little tired of the antics, without any actual substance in the fights.

That is why I am surprised there are still people who want to give credit to these wannabees. When I say wannabees, I do not only refer to the Paul brothers. I'm referring to all of them including Logan and Jake, Nate Robinson, Deron Williams, Frank Gore, and others. Regardless if they are strong fans of boxing, had some amateur boxing trainings in the past, etc, they are not real fighters.

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I'll admit though, I would be interested in a Jake Paul vs Mcgregor fight only for the inevitable knock out. Though, I'd probably still watch the highlights.

I'm not even interested with all of the highlights. I just wanna see the knockout. But would this possibly happen? Will the contract allow it? Lol.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 25, 2021, 08:00:00 PM

That media showing between the Furys and Jake Paul was the worst thing I've ever seen. Jake was right when he said the oldest Fury was cringe. It was worse than a trainwreck. I guess I'm glad they're trying to do their part to promote the fight, but after that showing I'm not sure anybody would be more likely to put down money on a pay per view. This is one fight I think I can say that I'll happily not watch, and be perfectly content seeing the KO punch and nothing more. I just hope Jake Paul finds something else to do with his time after this. I think everyone is starting to get tired of these antics.

Bring on Mike Tyson or Connor McGregor. I don't think people are as invested in this Jake Paul fighting real boxers movement as they are in seeing sideshow events.

Sadly not the first time, I thought the Nate Robinson vs Jake Paul fight, and the press conferences were also a train wreck. Unfortunately, John Fury while having quite a lot of knowledge about boxing, can say some stupid things from time to time. Almost, the entire time he speaks he's hyping up one of his sons, and then goes on to attack other fighters. I haven't watched it yet, but like I said before I could probably guess what he has said, as he usually says the same things over, and over.

I'll admit Jake Paul did grab my attention at first, but I think I agree, and I think most of the boxing community would agree, we are all getting a little tired of the antics, without any actual substance in the fights.

I'll admit though, I would be interested in a Jake Paul vs Mcgregor fight only for the inevitable knock out. Though, I'd probably still watch the highlights.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 25, 2021, 08:00:00 PM

That media showing between the Furys and Jake Paul was the worst thing I've ever seen. Jake was right when he said the oldest Fury was cringe. It was worse than a trainwreck. I guess I'm glad they're trying to do their part to promote the fight, but after that showing I'm not sure anybody would be more likely to put down money on a pay per view. This is one fight I think I can say that I'll happily not watch, and be perfectly content seeing the KO punch and nothing more. I just hope Jake Paul finds something else to do with his time after this. I think everyone is starting to get tired of these antics.

Bring on Mike Tyson or Connor McGregor. I don't think people are as invested in this Jake Paul fighting real boxers movement as they are in seeing sideshow events.

You have a point there. But Mike Tyson shouldn't be considered. I agree though to better call out McGregor. To make Jake Paul's fight worth to watch he should now start from the usual start-off of a professional boxer and climb his way up on the rankings.

Take offers, contracts, arrange fights, etc. against an active boxer on his weight class. As an influencer, he might get more PPVs doing that way compared to his considered crap fights by others.

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That media showing between the Furys and Jake Paul was the worst thing I've ever seen. Jake was right when he said the oldest Fury was cringe. It was worse than a trainwreck. I guess I'm glad they're trying to do their part to promote the fight, but after that showing I'm not sure anybody would be more likely to put down money on a pay per view. This is one fight I think I can say that I'll happily not watch, and be perfectly content seeing the KO punch and nothing more. I just hope Jake Paul finds something else to do with his time after this. I think everyone is starting to get tired of these antics.

Bring on Mike Tyson or Connor McGregor. I don't think people are as invested in this Jake Paul fighting real boxers movement as they are in seeing sideshow events.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 25, 2021, 11:30:55 AM

I think Jake Paul will be surprised when he gets the first hard blow to the nose.

This will be new to him. It will be a very unusual experience for him.

I'm looking for that, I think not just me but the majority as well lol.

Paul's brothers have to realize that they shouldn't bring their entertainment purposes in the real world of boxing.

Unless there's an under the table if you know what I mean, the cash cow event will continue.

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Jake Paul does have some decent fundamental skills in boxing. However, he isn't great by any stretch. Although, I doubt he'll be surprised by Tommy Fury's power, I mean just look at the guy he looks like a Greek god carved out of marble. Plus, as mentioned above boxers know exactly what they're getting into stepping into that ring, and would have probably received bigger beatings inside training than they'll ever have in the ring. Some boxers have openly talked about how rigorous, and hard some of the training was during build ups to big fights.

Just look at what happened to Spence Jr before the fight, he got his beatings that led to his eye surgery. Anyway, we will see how far Jake Paul can go this time, as he is facing a real boxer from Tommy Fury. The odds are in favor of Tommy this time. But with Jake Paul, he can attract viewers so they can sell this fight even if it is just an exhibition fight.

Well --this was sad knowing that all Paul brothers have become underdog and not favor on the odds. Paul Logan and Mike Tyson and now Jake Paul and Fury. But I know Jake will be able to win this fight, I believe in his capability to fight and it seems a good fighter will be thou on this fight.
We will see who will be gonna win even though this is an exhibition fight.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 25, 2021, 11:40:35 AM

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Jake Paul wont really get surprised, because I am sure during his training, he gets punched in the face during sparing. Even I wont be surprised if I get punched hard in the face if I would be paid millions for that Cheesy

Money talks as always and it would turn out to be just fine when you do know that you could earn millions.You would really be crossing into various sports which is out of your specialty or skill and wont mind if you would really get some bashes and criticisms.They just really dont care on what other people able to say as long they could earn up
then that what matter the most which its not totally surprising if you do ask me.Im already done with thes exhibitions actually.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 25, 2021, 06:26:53 PM

Jake Paul does have some decent fundamental skills in boxing. However, he isn't great by any stretch. Although, I doubt he'll be surprised by Tommy Fury's power, I mean just look at the guy he looks like a Greek god carved out of marble. Plus, as mentioned above boxers know exactly what they're getting into stepping into that ring, and would have probably received bigger beatings inside training than they'll ever have in the ring. Some boxers have openly talked about how rigorous, and hard some of the training was during build ups to big fights.

Just look at what happened to Spence Jr before the fight, he got his beatings that led to his eye surgery. Anyway, we will see how far Jake Paul can go this time, as he is facing a real boxer from Tommy Fury. The odds are in favor of Tommy this time. But with Jake Paul, he can attract viewers so they can sell this fight even if it is just an exhibition fight.

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