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Quote from: hilariousetc on November 30, 2021, 05:41:09 PM

I disagree, as does Tyson Fury. It's good for the sport as it brings in a whole new audience and some of them will stick around for other pro fights. I think it adds a little spice to the sport. Big fights tend to take ages to get sorted whereas these big-money match-ups get sorted pretty quick and they're often fun to watch in between the big main pro events.

I'm kind of sick of it, though I'll probably admit that its been beneficial to boxing as a whole. I've felt for years now, boxing has been on the decline, and these Youtubers certainly put the spotlight back onto boxing. I used to watch quite a bit of boxing, but these days I only really tune into my favourite fighters, and most of them are in the heavyweight division. UFC played a part in my interest waning, but I've definitely focused on boxing a lot more recently due to this....circus? I don't know if it's fair to say that, the Jake Paul vs Tyrone Woodley fight was actually alright. The Jake Paul fights before that were ridiculous, but I guess the Mayweather vs Logan fight was OK.

My biggest gripe with boxing is the politics involved in matching up fighters. Joshua, and Fury should have already fought, and it's annoying as a fan to be strung along, and then the big fights end up happening when they are no longer in their prime, making it a bit of a farce, due to the fact they wanted to milk the hype behind them as much as possible.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 30, 2021, 10:55:38 AM

Exhibition fights these days are more like scripted fights like the WWE lol Grin

The fighters get money either way.
They just try to make the fight more entertaining so that the users can get it rolling.
To look at it from a boxing perspective I think Tommy has the edge in this fight. Jake is good too but Tommy might win this one.

Exactly! The drama, drama fuels up everything, it gives them more money, and makes it look even more interesting, and this is the master plan on generating easy money, I'd love to bet honestly because matches like these are usually biased and mostly sided to the Paul's, regardless if Logan or Jake, the matches are honestly boring but I'll still bet on Logan because profit is still profit.

If boxing is just like this I don't I want to watch someone especially if I'm a fan but this is exhibition match so it's more like a scripted fight but I doubt if they have been sparring secretly or just talking over the phone to make the act believable. Although, WWE still got a lot of fans and continue to watch the matches as if it's not that scripted, so I guess other people are loving how the match supposed to be.

Anyway, Logan is just a youtuber just like Logan and we all know that a pro boxer vs a youtuber, the pro will always wins because they have this experience in fighting plus their hardcore training that makes them get used to the punching. So, I have a doubt if Jake will winin this kind of fight.

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Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.

Tommy is a good enough opponent as any other and in my opinion a decent stepping stone/challenge to see if Jake can compete at a pro level. It would be unwise of him to try fight a seasoned pro but I think if he can just give Tommy a decent run for his money then we'll soon see him step it up a notch.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 27, 2021, 06:52:27 AM

If Jake is so fond of boxing, he should train more and do more amateur boxing fights, instead of moving to professionals or having exhibition matches. If he posses himself more like a youtuber, then he should to say loud words about being greatest or be able to knockout anyone. He can knockout anyone on the street, but that is more about luck.

I don't hate Jake Paul, it's an exhibition fight, anyone can fight as long as you play the rules which are obviously different compared to professional boxing. Some fans maybe hated exhibition fights as it's taking the opportunity of the real boxing fights since people now are willing to spend money just to see a meaningless exhibition fight, but it's their right, it's their money so we have to respect them too.

With the exhibition matches, the real boxing importance keeps shrinking. Just our forum discussion itself a proof, because we are discussing much about the exhibition matches that are played than the real boxing. Somehow the matches aren't played with unmatched opponents.

I disagree, as does Tyson Fury. It's good for the sport as it brings in a whole new audience and some of them will stick around for other pro fights. I think it adds a little spice to the sport. Big fights tend to take ages to get sorted whereas these big-money match-ups get sorted pretty quick and they're often fun to watch in between the big main pro events.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 30, 2021, 10:55:38 AM

Exhibition fights these days are more like scripted fights like the WWE lol Grin

The fighters get money either way.
They just try to make the fight more entertaining so that the users can get it rolling.
To look at it from a boxing perspective I think Tommy has the edge in this fight. Jake is good too but Tommy might win this one.

Exactly! The drama, drama fuels up everything, it gives them more money, and makes it look even more interesting, and this is the master plan on generating easy money, I'd love to bet honestly because matches like these are usually biased and mostly sided to the Paul's, regardless if Logan or Jake, the matches are honestly boring but I'll still bet on Logan because profit is still profit.

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Exhibition fights these days are more like scripted fights like the WWE lol Grin

The fighters get money either way.
They just try to make the fight more entertaining so that the users can get it rolling.
To look at it from a boxing perspective I think Tommy has the edge in this fight. Jake is good too but Tommy might win this one.

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Quote from: poldanmig on November 30, 2021, 06:57:00 AM

I personally have never seen Tommy Fury boxing

You can find most of his fight on youtube, but you wont find anything extra ordinary in these fights. Tommy looks bigger than his opponents. He just goes forward, throwing lots of body punches to the block, trying to hit liver or slowdown his opponents. I think with tactics like that, he will get tired after round 3.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 30, 2021, 08:06:31 AM

It seems Tommy has the advantage because he has someone to depend on and consult while training. But in terms of boxing skills, both are equal.

I think that Jake can also get some kind of consulting. From Floyd Mayweather for example. I believe that the "hat accident" was just a hype before Floys vs Logan fight. And with money Jake has, he can get really good consulting and coaches. On the other hand, that wont help him, because he is an ass Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 30, 2021, 06:18:32 AM

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Tommy is no better than Jake Paul. Take a look at his previous boxing matches and you would easily conclude that this man's "professional" boxing matches are no less than a joke.

Tommy is not a super professional boxer either. But, compared to Jake Paul, he should have a good number of amateur fights. While all we know about Jake, that he had some amount of sparring.

Some might say that Tommy has a huge advantage, because he is from boxing family. But I am sure he did not spend 24/7 with Tyson, during his camps and training. Of course they might give him some hints, advices. If they would be in Tommy's corner, they would definitely be more helpful than Logan Paul and Jake's coach.

Tommy Fury had fought seven times while Jake Paul only four times. The difference is only three fights. It is not really a big deal. Also even if Tommy has had more fights than Jake you will see in his fight history that Tommy didn't really fight against strong opponents.

Jake fought huge names but in MMA and not in boxing. He was able to defeat the likes of Ben Askren and Tyron Woodley. Both were previous champions but both were also way too past their primes. They were retired MMA fighters already when Jake defeated them.

It seems Tommy has the advantage because he has someone to depend on and consult while training. But in terms of boxing skills, both are equal.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 30, 2021, 06:18:32 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 29, 2021, 07:41:37 PM

Tommy is no better than Jake Paul. Take a look at his previous boxing matches and you would easily conclude that this man's "professional" boxing matches are no less than a joke.

Tommy is not a super professional boxer either. But, compared to Jake Paul, he should have a good number of amateur fights. While all we know about Jake, that he had some amount of sparring.

Some might say that Tommy has a huge advantage, because he is from boxing family. But I am sure he did not spend 24/7 with Tyson, during his camps and training. Of course they might give him some hints, advices. If they would be in Tommy's corner, they would definitely be more helpful than Logan Paul and Jake's coach.

I personally have never seen Tommy Fury boxing, but considering he is an amateur boxer, of course Tommy chances of winning are definitely more than Jake Paul who is a YouTuber, besides as a boxer of course he doesn't want to be embarrassed later by jake paul, I think with training the exact obtained from Tyson Furry will certainly be a big motivation for Tommy Fury to be able to destroy Jake Paul in the ring later.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 29, 2021, 07:41:37 PM

Tommy is no better than Jake Paul. Take a look at his previous boxing matches and you would easily conclude that this man's "professional" boxing matches are no less than a joke.

Tommy is not a super professional boxer either. But, compared to Jake Paul, he should have a good number of amateur fights. While all we know about Jake, that he had some amount of sparring.

Some might say that Tommy has a huge advantage, because he is from boxing family. But I am sure he did not spend 24/7 with Tyson, during his camps and training. Of course they might give him some hints, advices. If they would be in Tommy's corner, they would definitely be more helpful than Logan Paul and Jake's coach.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 29, 2021, 09:26:43 AM

You don't need to know the legit score or whatsoever, just know who will win this fight and you'll make easy money. yes, it's called easy money as rigged games has a sure outcome, so you'll not feel nervous while watching the fight as you know who will win in the end. However, if you don't have any info, maybe you can just watch and grab some beer then enjoy.

Probably he's referring to win via decision or win via KO etc, this odds is more huge than predict win, lose, and draw only. But this prediction is more harder to pick, only for hardcore like this. Personally I didn't feel nervous even I lose the bet, I mean that's normal and speculations wouldn't always end like our expectations (favorited boxer always win) there're many upset this year.

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Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.

As I have said, whether this boxing match is recorded as being a professional fight or not does not matter that much. Whether this is considered an amateur match or simply an exhibition does not matter. What matters is the fact that these wannabe boxers are not really professional boxers in its strict sense.

This is subjective so this is my opinion. Other people could have a different opinion on this. As per the record, of course these kinds of fights are reflecting on their professional boxing experiences. But I still don't consider them real boxing fighters.

Jake Paul is definitely in the amateur department, Tommy Fury is considered as a pro-boxer but with little experience, I might just consider betting for Jake Paul on this one because of Jake's actual potential, I just hate how some of their fights are rigged, especially Logan Paul though I really think they do this purely for entertainment and for the money, betting on these fights are risky as it may look like a fixed match.

It is funny but both of them are already considered professional boxers. They have professional boxing records. But if they are compared to the ones who are really boxers through and through, these two are simply wannabes who are getting inside the ring for the sake of money and more popularity.

Tommy is no better than Jake Paul. Take a look at his previous boxing matches and you would easily conclude that this man's "professional" boxing matches are no less than a joke.

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Quote from: herurist on November 29, 2021, 09:37:28 AM

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For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

Yes it is, and we never know if they already agreed on what to do in the right because this fight is not regulated by a sports commission, its main intention is just to generate money by giving the entertainment we are expecting, but if it will favor Jake Paul to win, he will clearly win this despite Fury is the favorites to win.

More such exhibition matches is being fought and has got scheduled. This increasing number of exhibition fights making it more of an entertainment than real fight. In USA we can see street fights in which fighters harm with blades and bleed to entertain the audience. Nowadays exhibition matches were also doing the same.

besides being able to entertain this also brings a lot of money Cheesy

Because there really are a lot of people in the bet even if it's an exhibition.

For bettors it will only bring a lot of money if they will win, but since it's gambling, someone has to lose in order for the other to win.
The sportsbook are going to make money since they always does regardless of the outcome of the fight.

Quote from: herurist on November 29, 2021, 09:37:28 AM

But this is a good spectacle at least in this case we can relax for a while watching a pretty good spectacle while drinking beer with the family. As for who wins I don't really care about that what I want is a good fight that's served there

We have to enjoy, this is not a real fight, by the name itself which is an exhibition fight, you cannot pattern the scoring to the professional boxing rules, they also have their own rules to follow, and probably script too.

The biggest winner here in the end are these two boxers.

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For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

Yes it is, and we never know if they already agreed on what to do in the right because this fight is not regulated by a sports commission, its main intention is just to generate money by giving the entertainment we are expecting, but if it will favor Jake Paul to win, he will clearly win this despite Fury is the favorites to win.

More such exhibition matches is being fought and has got scheduled. This increasing number of exhibition fights making it more of an entertainment than real fight. In USA we can see street fights in which fighters harm with blades and bleed to entertain the audience. Nowadays exhibition matches were also doing the same.

besides being able to entertain this also brings a lot of money Cheesy

Because there really are a lot of people in the bet even if it's an exhibition.

But this is a good spectacle at least in this case we can relax for a while watching a pretty good spectacle while drinking beer with the family. As for who wins I don't really care about that what I want is a good fight that's served there

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Exhibition matches are fixed match yes 100% and that's purely for entertainment purposes. They could actually do whatever they want with the fight and they can dictate whatever the outcome is. Nevertheless, both parties will make money out of this fight. And yes it is very risky to bet on exhibition matches, because upset is very more likely than professional matches.

For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

So lucky those who might get a legit score or get a chance to know who might be the chosen winner before betting started. This is the kind of game that was so risky to place a bet on, you'll lucky if you know the correct score or winner but you'll certainly going to lose if you didn't know the right score. Maybe in this type of exhibition bouts I'll just grab a popcorn and watch the game and will not going to place any bet because I do not have any reliable source, I think I would practice my not so well-skilled analysts in this exhibition bout of Tommy Fury and Jake Paul.

You don't need to know the legit score or whatsoever, just know who will win this fight and you'll make easy money. yes, it's called easy money as rigged games has a sure outcome, so you'll not feel nervous while watching the fight as you know who will win in the end. However, if you don't have any info, maybe you can just watch and grab some beer then enjoy.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 29, 2021, 08:28:37 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on November 29, 2021, 03:26:58 AM

For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

Yes it is, and we never know if they already agreed on what to do in the right because this fight is not regulated by a sports commission, its main intention is just to generate money by giving the entertainment we are expecting, but if it will favor Jake Paul to win, he will clearly win this despite Fury is the favorites to win.

More such exhibition matches is being fought and has got scheduled. This increasing number of exhibition fights making it more of an entertainment than real fight. In USA we can see street fights in which fighters harm with blades and bleed to entertain the audience. Nowadays exhibition matches were also doing the same.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 29, 2021, 03:26:58 AM

Exhibition matches are fixed match yes 100% and that's purely for entertainment purposes. They could actually do whatever they want with the fight and they can dictate whatever the outcome is. Nevertheless, both parties will make money out of this fight. And yes it is very risky to bet on exhibition matches, because upset is very more likely than professional matches.

For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

So lucky those who might get a legit score or get a chance to know who might be the chosen winner before betting started. This is the kind of game that was so risky to place a bet on, you'll lucky if you know the correct score or winner but you'll certainly going to lose if you didn't know the right score. Maybe in this type of exhibition bouts I'll just grab a popcorn and watch the game and will not going to place any bet because I do not have any reliable source, I think I would practice my not so well-skilled analysts in this exhibition bout of Tommy Fury and Jake Paul.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 29, 2021, 03:26:58 AM

For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

Yes it is, and we never know if they already agreed on what to do in the right because this fight is not regulated by a sports commission, its main intention is just to generate money by giving the entertainment we are expecting, but if it will favor Jake Paul to win, he will clearly win this despite Fury is the favorites to win.

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That media showing between the Furys and Jake Paul was the worst thing I've ever seen. Jake was right when he said the oldest Fury was cringe. It was worse than a trainwreck. I guess I'm glad they're trying to do their part to promote the fight, but after that showing I'm not sure anybody would be more likely to put down money on a pay per view. This is one fight I think I can say that I'll happily not watch, and be perfectly content seeing the KO punch and nothing more. I just hope Jake Paul finds something else to do with his time after this. I think everyone is starting to get tired of these antics.

Bring on Mike Tyson or Connor McGregor. I don't think people are as invested in this Jake Paul fighting real boxers movement as they are in seeing sideshow events.

You have a point there. But Mike Tyson shouldn't be considered. I agree though to better call out McGregor. To make Jake Paul's fight worth to watch he should now start from the usual start-off of a professional boxer and climb his way up on the rankings.

Take offers, contracts, arrange fights, etc. against an active boxer on his weight class. As an influencer, he might get more PPVs doing that way compared to his considered crap fights by others.

Exactly! Jake Paul isn't like his older brother Logan Paul who fights only for pure money and fixed exhibition fights, climbing some steep ladders and using its fame to make match against top boxers like Mayweather and Mike Tyson. Even though Jake Paul is also a famous vlogger like hie brother, he started from the bottom to make his name pretty and to be a professional boxer. Though he's recent matches are debuts, still it's worth to watch a boxer who is inspired to be a world champion someday.

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Quote from: dupee419 on November 29, 2021, 01:21:24 AM

Jake Paul is definitely in the amateur department, Tommy Fury is considered as a pro-boxer but with little experience, I might just consider betting for Jake Paul on this one because of Jake's actual potential, I just hate how some of their fights are rigged, especially Logan Paul though I really think they do this purely for entertainment and for the money, betting on these fights are risky as it may look like a fixed match.

Exhibition matches are fixed match yes 100% and that's purely for entertainment purposes. They could actually do whatever they want with the fight and they can dictate whatever the outcome is. Nevertheless, both parties will make money out of this fight. And yes it is very risky to bet on exhibition matches, because upset is very more likely than professional matches.

For boxing fans POV, Tommy has the edge over Jake as he has been fighting for professional matches. Though with little experience but sure he has more experience and training than Jake do. But then again, this is an exhibition match lol.

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Might as well bet on Jake Paul with the better odds and take the view the less trained boxer wins because its an exhibition and they can do what they like really. I'd bet the draw if I could, so long as it collects fees they'll carry on. When its done as a revenue maker he'll move onto whatever pays, cant blame them really. Jake Paul brings views from an otherwise untapped demographic perhaps, not sure they let him lose.

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