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Topic: [Boxing]: Whyte vs Povetkin II on Jan 30, 2021 - page 11. (Read 2661 times)

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What's your take on this, is this a hastily decision on Whyte's part? Obviously he wanted to redeem himself and Povetkin has something to prove again. I think this is going to be a very exciting. I still have Whyte in my book here though. He just need to be very careful and really concentrate on this fight and not get distracted from Joshua or Fury looming fight.

Their fight was crazy! I really thought that Whyte would win that after Povetkin fell down on his knees twice and had so many upper-cuts received from Whyte. But then I wasn't that shocked on the outcome of the fight as Whyte had been too confident with Povetkin seemingly weakening after his Whyte's hitting cuts and jobs against Povetkin. But if Whyte really is disappointed and would initiate a rematch, I think he only must get rid of his over-confidence in mid-fight. His punches were good and strong, noting that he wa once undefeated before their fight. Therefore, whatever his toughness level is, if he would be over-confident and would think he's already winning at his early actions, he might lose again.

I'm betting for Povetkin here. I guess he would learned what to do on their next match.
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Are we expecting Dillian to come in a little heavier this time?

He is already the heavier on their first fight, at 252 lbs vs Povetkin's 224 lbs. So I don't know if adding more pounds will help him in this fight. But I do agree that Whyte might not change his style of fighting and maybe will come out swinging again and see if he can get to Povetkin and finish it for good.

And obviously the pressure is on his side, because he knows that if he loss the fight again, then it will be over for him. Maybe he can used it as motivation, but this is a high risk fight, while Povetkin is beaming with confidence and ready for round 6.
His weight might limiting his potential, so he should know this one. Whyte have to do everything to win on this match because its hard to accept that you ask for a rematch and yet you lose again, and he's claiming to get back the belt that he owns before. Povetkin is great boxer on the ring and moves solid and resulted to a victory, I'm sure he's preparing well right now to defend the title, this can be an exciting match to watch for.
Yeah. Why not equal it to Povetkin's weight instead of adding more to his current weight? I think it do really matters if he can move around with lesser weight rather than not, this may be a heavyweight match but there's an extra flavor if you knew you can move better than your opponent or equals to him.
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Are we expecting Dillian to come in a little heavier this time?

He is already the heavier on their first fight, at 252 lbs vs Povetkin's 224 lbs. So I don't know if adding more pounds will help him in this fight. But I do agree that Whyte might not change his style of fighting and maybe will come out swinging again and see if he can get to Povetkin and finish it for good.

And obviously the pressure is on his side, because he knows that if he loss the fight again, then it will be over for him. Maybe he can used it as motivation, but this is a high risk fight, while Povetkin is beaming with confidence and ready for round 6.
His weight might limiting his potential, so he should know this one. Whyte have to do everything to win on this match because its hard to accept that you ask for a rematch and yet you lose again, and he's claiming to get back the belt that he owns before. Povetkin is great boxer on the ring and moves solid and resulted to a victory, I'm sure he's preparing well right now to defend the title, this can be an exciting match to watch for.
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Are we expecting Dillian to come in a little heavier this time?

He is already the heavier on their first fight, at 252 lbs vs Povetkin's 224 lbs. So I don't know if adding more pounds will help him in this fight. But I do agree that Whyte might not change his style of fighting and maybe will come out swinging again and see if he can get to Povetkin and finish it for good.

And obviously the pressure is on his side, because he knows that if he loss the fight again, then it will be over for him. Maybe he can used it as motivation, but this is a high risk fight, while Povetkin is beaming with confidence and ready for round 6.
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For the old Sasha, there's no point dreaming a lot at 41 in this particular sports.

41 is not a sentence. If I’m not wrong, George Foreman became world heavyweight champion at the age of 45 and retired at 48.

Iron Mike is 54 and plans to have a exhibition match agains RJJ.

I think this is not going to be Povetkins last fight. But he can not compete on top level anymore.

In boxing, it could be. Don't make the exception as the rule by cherry picking. Foreman was a legend. He already became a world champion when he defeated fellow legend Joe Frazier. However, Foreman's KO win over Moorer was one hell of a comeback upset. He was not the same boxer when made his second championship at 45. He was not winning even a single scorecard all throughout the fight until he landed that one lucky punch. After this upset victory, lackluster battles, match refusals, and belt stripping followed.

Don't count Tyson's exhibition match. The match is, yes, an exhibition.

This is definitely not Povetkin's last fight. My point is that for a 41-year old boxer, there is no point making up a long fight list with the best fighters in the division.

...age does not matter much in boxing.

Think again.

Yes i read now that tyson match will an exhibition match with Roy Jones.

Then Why there is so much hype and even betting will taking place on this exhibition match on November 28  Huh
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For the old Sasha, there's no point dreaming a lot at 41 in this particular sports.

41 is not a sentence. If I’m not wrong, George Foreman became world heavyweight champion at the age of 45 and retired at 48.

Iron Mike is 54 and plans to have a exhibition match agains RJJ.

I think this is not going to be Povetkins last fight. But he can not compete on top level anymore.

In boxing, it could be. Don't make the exception as the rule by cherry picking. Foreman was a legend. He already became a world champion when he defeated fellow legend Joe Frazier. However, Foreman's KO win over Moorer was one hell of a comeback upset. He was not the same boxer when made his second championship at 45. He was not winning even a single scorecard all throughout the fight until he landed that one lucky punch. After this upset victory, lackluster battles, match refusals, and belt stripping followed.

Don't count Tyson's exhibition match. The match is, yes, an exhibition.

This is definitely not Povetkin's last fight. My point is that for a 41-year old boxer, there is no point making up a long fight list with the best fighters in the division.

...age does not matter much in boxing.

Think again.
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For the old Sasha, there's no point dreaming a lot at 41 in this particular sports.

41 is not a sentence. If I’m not wrong, George Foreman became world heavyweight champion at the age of 45 and retired at 48.

Iron Mike is 54 and plans to have a exhibition match agains RJJ.

I think this is not going to be Povetkins last fight. But he can not compete on top level anymore.

Although in other sports we see people retire early but age does not matter much in boxing. There are many boxers who are 40+ and still playing. In fact Mike Tyson is 54 years of age and is considered favorite for this next match.   
Povetkin is just 41 years of age and still have few more years to continue playing boxing.
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Yes, this is what I'm trying to point out, Whyte's chin has been exposed from that uppercut that he got from Povetkin, while Povetkin, although taking heavy damage as well is holding his own. So it's close to saying that Whyte is really looking for trouble and another knockout from Povetkin is not that far. Let's see what the odds are, but Povetkin might be the favorite here? What you think?

Povetkin is my favorite to win again here, I'd like to bet on Whyte but that knock out is so spectacular that we seldom seen a punch like that where the receiver is already out before hitting the canvass, this is devastating for the receiver, when they face each other Whyte will keep telling himself I must watch out for that uppercut, I'm sure there will be fear factor when they face again.

Lol, yeah that's one hell of a knock-out punch and it's comparable to the punch that Manny Pacquaio delivered that KOed Ricky Hatton. Whyte just have to keep in mind that he is winning the fight before that lucky punch landed  Smiley. I lost my bet on the first fight but still i would bet on Whyte because he would be more careful this time to avoid that lucky punch. Maybe we can see here more clinching on the side of Whyte.

Yeah, we get REKT on the first fight with that one punch knock out from Povetkin, lol. But I think he will be more careful and deliberate in this rematch and he knows what went wrong there. But I still still bet on Whyte here, he still has the advantage in power, and the one that knock him out is the punch that he didn't see. So he will try to avoid it and maybe we will see more clinch. And age will still be a factor for Povetkin in this fight. That's why Whyte needs to clinch and put his weight on Povetkin to get him gas out, similar to what Fury did to Wilder in their own version of a rematch.
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For the old Sasha, there's no point dreaming a lot at 41 in this particular sports.

41 is not a sentence. If I’m not wrong, George Foreman became world heavyweight champion at the age of 45 and retired at 48.

Iron Mike is 54 and plans to have a exhibition match agains RJJ.

I think this is not going to be Povetkins last fight. But he can not compete on top level anymore.
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I don't think it's much of a turn of events. Whyte announced quite clearly that he was going to execute the rematch clause right after he got knocked out the first time.

I am pretty sure Whyte thought he'd be able to just walk Povetkin down, kind of like how Anthony Joshua and Klitschko did. But Whyte just isn't at the caliber.

I think Whyte should win if he sticks to a game plan and just goes for a points decision.

Povetkin has shown that he can quickly turn the tables on fighters if they let their guard down, e.g. because they think he's old and slow.

Whyte is the slight favorite IMO, but Povetkin could easily KO him again.
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Whyte gets a lot of stick for being outspoken, and his exaggerated persona, but hes a decent enough fighter. I don't think his defense is much to speak of, but the guy can definitely throw a punch. I do think that  Povetkin is generally underrated in most of his fights, and is a rounded fighter at least more so than Whyte. However, it was quite obvious the last time around that Povetkin is feeling his age, and although he does have a big heart is getting older. Personally, I thought Whyte would have waited longer to exercise his rematch clause due to the fact that Povetkin would have had an even longer break at his age, and Whyte would be able to recuperate, but I definitely do rate that Whyte just wants to go for it again.

I think I'll go for Whyte this time, although I don't think Whyte is the type of fighter to learn, and adjust to his fighter he usually just comes out swinging for the hills. It still takes a lot to knock someone out, and I'm not sure if Povetkin will find that opening again, especially since its usually harder against a fighter that just doesn't stop throwing punches. Should be a decent fight again, and if Povetkin was several years younger I'd have him winning every single time.

Are we expecting Dillian to come in a little heavier this time?
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I am excited for the rematch whether Whyte will win and regain his reputation, I mean it’s not like it has been damaged or what, but even though he has scored greatly in the previous match still he lose. As per Povetkin, if he will win this rematch, it will just prove that he is a better boxer than Whyte. No offense intended to the fans here.
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Wow! That's fast. I didn't expect that their rematch will happen this year as well. In their next match, I'm still rooting for Whyte. I mean, Povetkin clearly won the first one but Whyte dominated him until that one knockout punch came lol. But I'm confident that Whyte can still put a lot of pressure on him. I do believe that he can beat Povetkin this time. Maybe what he needs to improve is his jaw. Don't get me wrong, he got a hard chin but Povetkin got harder one Grin.

Yes, maybe Dillian woke up after that devastating KO and didn't know what happened. That's why he ask for an immediate rematch to save face. In all fairness though, he was ahead on the judges scorecard and he himself could smell a knock out. However, Povetkin proved too experience, so he should be really moving his head in this rematch or stick to a good game plan, like not look for a knock out, let it come to him scenario. I don't think that boxers can really improve their chin though. Remember Amir Khan? Freddie Roach train his neck and strengthen it, but still Khan has a glass jaw and no amount of training will hardened it.
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Yes, this is what I'm trying to point out, Whyte's chin has been exposed from that uppercut that he got from Povetkin, while Povetkin, although taking heavy damage as well is holding his own. So it's close to saying that Whyte is really looking for trouble and another knockout from Povetkin is not that far. Let's see what the odds are, but Povetkin might be the favorite here? What you think?

Povetkin is my favorite to win again here, I'd like to bet on Whyte but that knock out is so spectacular that we seldom seen a punch like that where the receiver is already out before hitting the canvass, this is devastating for the receiver, when they face each other Whyte will keep telling himself I must watch out for that uppercut, I'm sure there will be fear factor when they face again.

Lol, yeah that's one hell of a knock-out punch and it's comparable to the punch that Manny Pacquaio delivered that KOed Ricky Hatton. Whyte just have to keep in mind that he is winning the fight before that lucky punch landed  Smiley. I lost my bet on the first fight but still i would bet on Whyte because he would be more careful this time to avoid that lucky punch. Maybe we can see here more clinching on the side of Whyte.
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Very interesting rematch between Dillian Whyte vs Alexander Povetkin, because Whyte must be very curious about avenging the loss
to Povetkin in a single punch. Of course Whyte is eager to win the rematch, the loss to Povetkin is Whyte's first defeat since 2015.
Whyte even went so far as to urge promoter Eddie Hearn to have a rematch against Povetkin before the end of the year. I'm sure Whyte's
will win against Povetkin this time.
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Wow! That's fast. I didn't expect that their rematch will happen this year as well. In their next match, I'm still rooting for Whyte. I mean, Povetkin clearly won the first one but Whyte dominated him until that one knockout punch came lol. But I'm confident that Whyte can still put a lot of pressure on him. I do believe that he can beat Povetkin this time. Maybe what he needs to improve is his jaw. Don't get me wrong, he got a hard chin but Povetkin got harder one Grin.
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but unfortunately, they fought in a few audience places where you don't really feel the common atmosphere where the fans will shout after the knockout. I think it's the best for them to fight again when everything will back to normal because even though the fight was close if it's not for that surprise uppercut,

Whyte doesn't want that he wants a rematch right away, this guy is demanding and very ambitious, he thought he can beat Fury or Wilder or whoever is the winner, the uppercut is indeed very surprising but is most surprising is Povetkin keeps mixing it up even though he was down twice, that means he can take a punch while Whyte cannot and Whyte will be in trouble again.
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Yes, this is what I'm trying to point out, Whyte's chin has been exposed from that uppercut that he got from Povetkin, while Povetkin, although taking heavy damage as well is holding his own. So it's close to saying that Whyte is really looking for trouble and another knockout from Povetkin is not that far. Let's see what the odds are, but Povetkin might be the favorite here? What you think?

Povetkin is my favorite to win again here, I'd like to bet on Whyte but that knock out is so spectacular that we seldom seen a punch like that where the receiver is already out before hitting the canvass, this is devastating for the receiver, when they face each other Whyte will keep telling himself I must watch out for that uppercut, I'm sure there will be fear factor when they face again.
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Whyte's chin has been damaged already by Povetkin already and this will always remains to our mind that Povetkin's uppercut is superior. And I agree that he shouldn't rush things up to redeem himself and not look for a quick solution, - revenge. And it might back fire on him as Povetkin has proven against the odds that he has the tools to take Whyte's best punch and dish his own.

Whyte's chin has been exposed and it will be target from uppercut, straight, or hook as long as Povetkin connect Whyte is in trouble, it's either he strengthens his chin or develops a power punch to knock out Povetkin before Povetkin connect, Povetkin surprisingly can take his punch but not Povetkin's punch and that will be a big difference, I will go for Povetkin this time via knock out.
Yes, this is what I'm trying to point out, Whyte's chin has been exposed from that uppercut that he got from Povetkin, while Povetkin, although taking heavy damage as well is holding his own. So it's close to saying that Whyte is really looking for trouble and another knockout from Povetkin is not that far. Let's see what the odds are, but Povetkin might be the favorite here? What you think?
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What's your take on this, is this a hastily decision on Whyte's part?
I think that's a rush decision on him and yes it's a revenge but I think he just wants his glory back but I think that will not be too easy if you've just been knocked with the one you've wanted for a rematch. I am really thinking that this is an aggressive decision on Whyte but if he's that determined then he's rushing to either win to get what he has or to lose again, he should have not rush it.
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