[Boxing]: Whyte vs Povetkin II on Jan 30, 2021 - page 8.

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A new name wants to fight Whyte:

Hunter: I Want Dillian Whyte Next But Really Anyone Can Get It

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“I would love to fight Dillian Whyte,” Hunter told Fite’s Matt Striker following his win, which aired live on Fite Pay-Per-View.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hunter-i-want-dillian-whyte-next-really-anyone-get-it--154307

Looks like Whyte is now the sweepstakes in Heavyweight, Lol, anyhow, I don't think his name rings a bell to me in that division. Whyte might be looking for a more established name in heavyweight not name Joshua, Wilder or Fury.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

You definitely noticed this.
And I totally agree with that. It would be better if he did not say that he had not trained enough, but would simply be silent. This statement of his sounds like an excuse, and a real strong fighter, as he should be, must grit his teeth and rush to victory without any words.

What's important to us is what they've shown in the ring but there some statement that would really ring on us and I would say it's really getting the attention of the people for whatever the purpose is, well, the main purpose is just to sell the right, so probably that's it.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 23, 2020, 05:21:06 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 22, 2020, 02:46:00 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

You definitely noticed this.
And I totally agree with that. It would be better if he did not say that he had not trained enough, but would simply be silent. This statement of his sounds like an excuse, and a real strong fighter, as he should be, must grit his teeth and rush to victory without any words.

Every boxers has plan A, until they got punch in the face, LOL. Of course you will hear certain boxers have an excuse for every loss in a fight like Ruiz, its normal human behaviour. But it's a question on how they can comeback from a defeat that define how good or bad a fighter is.

There's still no update as to who Dillian Whyte will fight next though, but probably the team is working very hard even in this holiday to come up with a name so that by early 2021 we will have a name already and Whyte can continue to train and forget about Povetkin for now.

When times that fighters do lost and made up some reason or excuses then i do just simply smile and tell to my mind that it was just a lame excuse.When you are having an upcoming
fight then its impossible for someone not to make up some training or putting your body into shape.

Boxing outcome or in any sport would really be having to results which would win or lose and the better fighter would always be on the winning side. If you do lost then its better
to be silent and be a man to accept defeat not just on saying that you do lack training or what.

Maintaining your body in good shape even if you dont have upcoming fights or agreements is a must thing.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 22, 2020, 02:46:00 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

You definitely noticed this.
And I totally agree with that. It would be better if he did not say that he had not trained enough, but would simply be silent. This statement of his sounds like an excuse, and a real strong fighter, as he should be, must grit his teeth and rush to victory without any words.

Every boxers has plan A, until they got punch in the face, LOL. Of course you will hear certain boxers have an excuse for every loss in a fight like Ruiz, its normal human behaviour. But it's a question on how they can comeback from a defeat that define how good or bad a fighter is.

There's still no update as to who Dillian Whyte will fight next though, but probably the team is working very hard even in this holiday to come up with a name so that by early 2021 we will have a name already and Whyte can continue to train and forget about Povetkin for now.

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Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

You definitely noticed this.
And I totally agree with that. It would be better if he did not say that he had not trained enough, but would simply be silent. This statement of his sounds like an excuse, and a real strong fighter, as he should be, must grit his teeth and rush to victory without any words.

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Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

Yup, probably just an excuse on Andy Ruiz side, nevertheless a fighter that upset someone really goes into this kind celebration that they forget they have to live and fight the next day. Now, his name has been forgotten already, just another one hit wonders. But if he take the fight seriously against AJ the second time around then he could still be the champion today.

In any case though, it will be explosive and I'm sure either one of them can knock each other out with just one punch. So let's wait for Dillian's decision on which fighter he will choose to fight next.

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Quote from: Reatim on December 18, 2020, 09:23:40 AM

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Team Whyte is now looking for other options:

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"We will be reaching out to other players in the heavyweight division to see if they fancy it," Hearn told Sky Sports News.

"I'd love to make Ruiz Jr vs Whyte, Wilder vs Whyte, Ortiz vs Whyte. Chisora is always ready. He is another name to throw in the mix, potentially, for Whyte if the Povetkin fight is delayed. He is always in excellent fights, always entertaining, he is on good form. But I really feel that Dillian needs to wipe that [defeat] off his record against Povetkin.

Source.

This is very entertaining fights for me, specially Ruiz Jr and Derick Chisora. I doubt that they will get Wilder though. So yes, Whyte should stay busy and instead of chasing and waiting for Povetkin to be A-ok, he should seek other fights early next year.

Well Covid will only Take 14-28 days to formally announced the status of Povetkin ,and since this Boxer is fit He can easily recover from this Virus and may not infect others .

But also this is a Good move from Whyte's Site not to lurk around and find another one to face ,because His training will be spare if they did not found opponent to fit at least in the month of January .

I think what you are saying is that quarantine period, yes it could take 14-28 days, but everyone reacts differently to the virus. Povetkin is a able and healthy body but it seems that he has some complications that the 14-28 period is not enough for him to recover.

There's a another one, Luis Ortiz who says he is willing to fight Whyte, this is another good fight I think as Ortiz although is old can still punch and give Whyte a good fight and I won't discount the fact that Ortiz can knock out Whyte here.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 15, 2020, 08:20:11 PM

Team Whyte is now looking for other options:

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"We will be reaching out to other players in the heavyweight division to see if they fancy it," Hearn told Sky Sports News.

"I'd love to make Ruiz Jr vs Whyte, Wilder vs Whyte, Ortiz vs Whyte. Chisora is always ready. He is another name to throw in the mix, potentially, for Whyte if the Povetkin fight is delayed. He is always in excellent fights, always entertaining, he is on good form. But I really feel that Dillian needs to wipe that [defeat] off his record against Povetkin.

Source.

This is very entertaining fights for me, specially Ruiz Jr and Derick Chisora. I doubt that they will get Wilder though. So yes, Whyte should stay busy and instead of chasing and waiting for Povetkin to be A-ok, he should seek other fights early next year.

Well Covid will only Take 14-28 days to formally announced the status of Povetkin ,and since this Boxer is fit He can easily recover from this Virus and may not infect others .

But also this is a Good move from Whyte's Site not to lurk around and find another one to face ,because His training will be spare if they did not found opponent to fit at least in the month of January .

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Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

I get you, might be another way to attract interest from social medias and bring the attention to this fight. Not a good way to bring alibis but to call the attention things needs to extend up to this level of advertising. Just wait and see if what will be the impacts of this kind of promotions.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 15, 2020, 08:20:11 PM

Team Whyte is now looking for other options:

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"We will be reaching out to other players in the heavyweight division to see if they fancy it," Hearn told Sky Sports News.

"I'd love to make Ruiz Jr vs Whyte, Wilder vs Whyte, Ortiz vs Whyte. Chisora is always ready. He is another name to throw in the mix, potentially, for Whyte if the Povetkin fight is delayed. He is always in excellent fights, always entertaining, he is on good form. But I really feel that Dillian needs to wipe that [defeat] off his record against Povetkin.

Source.

This is very entertaining fights for me, specially Ruiz Jr and Derick Chisora. I doubt that they will get Wilder though. So yes, Whyte should stay busy and instead of chasing and waiting for Povetkin to be A-ok, he should seek other fights early next year.

Same opinion here. Whyte can't be inactive simply because the fight will be moved. Povetkin is probably going to ask for a recovery period. We don't know how badly affected Povetkin is from COVID-19 but if he got really sick from it and not just asymptomatic like other athletes, he will probably request for a much later date. That's much better than force the agreed date.

I like the names lined up as other options for Whyte, particularly Ruiz and Wilder.

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Quote from: Questat on December 18, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

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This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

It is a mismatch for him, indeed. I don't think that such white lies and alibi will make people believing him but instead, it only tare him down.

If that he suppose to think about and the reason for his losses, I think a scheduled rematch will be schedule and give him a long time to let him trained so well. And for such a time he losses again, he might proclaim himself as a loser, not a whinner boxer who blames others.

That was ridiculous to hear.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 18, 2020, 01:45:54 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

Or just an excuse, a real fighter would not say that, that's a disrespect to the winner, he should put some action in the ring and don't talk too much. There's no threat outside the ring, the real threat is in the inside and we should not easily believe what we heard as all they said might only be intended to attract the attention of the media.

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^^ I wanted to see Andy Ruiz Jr, here, I think he is not a one hit wonder, but winning against and upsetting Joshua really put up all the fame in his head. And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

So if he will given this chance, then we will see two of the biggest puncher in HW so it will be an intriguing match.

I also like to see this match to happen, Ruiz has a very long lay off, it's been a year that he is not fighting and besides both fighters has a loss in their last fight I'm sure both fighters will be motivated to be all out, to become relevant in the heavyweight division, a loss to anyone of them will put him in a brink of retirement.

Yes, in paper it will be a good match, Ruiz needed to have a bounce, and Whyte could be a good fight for him. Ruiz though needs to focus as he is no longer the champion here and not the A-side if they ever meet in the future. He needs to established himself again and Whyte could be the one to offer him an proved that he is no fluke after knocking out Joshua. For Whyte this is also a win-win situation, he can claim that he beats the man who beat Joshua, lol, and then go after Povetkin.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

This is where it is worth wondering why he makes statements that he did not train properly. What's this?
Justification of loss or is it vice versa Threat to future rival.
Now, if I train, then ... All... You have no chance!!!. You are defeated!
All this is psychologically calculated by his managers.
Do you think this is so?

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 16, 2020, 12:01:06 AM

I think we should also consider the psychological state of Whyte here. Can he get back and not think how devastated that knock out? Elite fighters can get over, like Fury getting up on the last round on the first Fury vs Wilder and then knocking him down in the second fight and showing a masterful performance.

Boxers like Manny Pacquiao to be example,When he was Knocked down by Juan Miguel marquez and the most controversial knock down by the Philippines pride.

yet he recovers and fought many bout since then until now.

As what I have read in some of the boxing articles online, for a boxer who suffered a brutal defeat, it's hard to get back into normal, especially if you are undefeated and you lose, you'll never be the same again, and well, Manny Pacquiao did recover because he is exceptional.

Yeah you said it clear Manny Pacquiao is and exceptional Not only as Boxer as being human also ,achieving multiple great things in life who once comes from a Slum places and the capacity to train is supported by imitations just to sustain hes eagerness to Box.

These 2 fights has more than a Month for preparation while there are many bout that scheduled ahead of them.
So we will expect a Good ring game play and not an easy done fight.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

^^ I wanted to see Andy Ruiz Jr, here, I think he is not a one hit wonder, but winning against and upsetting Joshua really put up all the fame in his head. And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

So if he will given this chance, then we will see two of the biggest puncher in HW so it will be an intriguing match.

This has the making of a main event if ever these two fighters collide in the ring but if they fight I go for Ruiz, he has never been knock out, compared to Whyte who has been knock out cold by Povetkin, Ruiz can still become a champion because he is the only one who knock out Joshua, and Whyte is a good stepping stone for his big comeback.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 15, 2020, 08:50:28 PM

^^ I wanted to see Andy Ruiz Jr, here, I think he is not a one hit wonder, but winning against and upsetting Joshua really put up all the fame in his head. And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

So if he will given this chance, then we will see two of the biggest puncher in HW so it will be an intriguing match.

I also like to see this match to happen, Ruiz has a very long lay off, it's been a year that he is not fighting and besides both fighters has a loss in their last fight I'm sure both fighters will be motivated to be all out, to become relevant in the heavyweight division, a loss to anyone of them will put him in a brink of retirement.

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too bad it has to postpone because of covid 19 but health is more important, at the same time, it is better if they will fight when there is a lot of people watching live, I mean business-wise they should wait a bit longer, but I think the fight will be a lot of difference from the first one, and tougher since the challenger has a psychological disadvantage that is for sure.

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^^ I wanted to see Andy Ruiz Jr, here, I think he is not a one hit wonder, but winning against and upsetting Joshua really put up all the fame in his head. And after he lost in the rematch, he claim and admitted that he didn't train properly and just enjoy being the Heavyweight champion and of course all the fame and money that comes with it.

So if he will given this chance, then we will see two of the biggest puncher in HW so it will be an intriguing match.

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Team Whyte is now looking for other options:

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"We will be reaching out to other players in the heavyweight division to see if they fancy it," Hearn told Sky Sports News.

"I'd love to make Ruiz Jr vs Whyte, Wilder vs Whyte, Ortiz vs Whyte. Chisora is always ready. He is another name to throw in the mix, potentially, for Whyte if the Povetkin fight is delayed. He is always in excellent fights, always entertaining, he is on good form. But I really feel that Dillian needs to wipe that [defeat] off his record against Povetkin.

Source.

This is very entertaining fights for me, specially Ruiz Jr and Derick Chisora. I doubt that they will get Wilder though. So yes, Whyte should stay busy and instead of chasing and waiting for Povetkin to be A-ok, he should seek other fights early next year.

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