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Topic: [Boxing]: Whyte vs Povetkin II on Jan 30, 2021 - page 12. (Read 2678 times)

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Even myself can't sleep in that defeat having a fight to which I almost win and then suddenly I was knock out by a single punch. Actually he was wrong when he says that he was distracted not to get notice with that knock out punch. It should be telling him that experience could still be winning against any strong boxer by outsmarting the opponent. Whyte has learned his lesson here and that is not to underestimate the opponent. My bet was supposed to be place to Whyte in the match but I was not able to watch and bet into the fight.Gladly I did not make for if I dl then I am lossing it already.
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What is the purpose of this fight for Whyte? Revenge? Belt? Prove himself that he was winning and can win? If he disagrees that he had lost, then he should have defended or evaded that uppercut. If he is for the belt, then he should question himself, is he really ready for a rematch? Because if he loses, he wont meet Povetkin in next couple of years.

What this fight can give Povetkin? Dont know. Probably only money.

The priority would be to avenge his previous defeat. That's obviously the number one goal. Belt? Well, he just lost his interim. And along with it the opportunity to demand a WBC mandatory title with Fury, which he will probably lost anyway but could give him a bigger pay. But a redemption from the last loss is definitely a nice forward step for him to be able to try once more to attract the attention of the elites in the division.

For the old Sasha, there's no point dreaming a lot at 41 in this particular sports. Making money and winning for the sake of winning are probably the goals. Being able to make a graceful exit from boxing is one glorious thing.
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What is the purpose of this fight for Whyte? Revenge? Belt? Prove himself that he was winning and can win? If he disagrees that he had lost, then he should have defended or evaded that uppercut. If he is for the belt, then he should question himself, is he really ready for a rematch? Because if he loses, he wont meet Povetkin in next couple of years.

What this fight can give Povetkin? Dont know. Probably only money.

redemption for whyte but yes money for povetkin. too early for rematch. whyte is so eager to get back on povetkin. and with this, he may not be thinking smart. anyway, lets see what's in store for both fighters this coming november.
 dont think the arena will be open to large audience at that time, so not so much money will be generated from the gate.
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What is the purpose of this fight for Whyte? Revenge? Belt? Prove himself that he was winning and can win? If he disagrees that he had lost, then he should have defended or evaded that uppercut. If he is for the belt, then he should question himself, is he really ready for a rematch? Because if he loses, he wont meet Povetkin in next couple of years.

What this fight can give Povetkin? Dont know. Probably only money.
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Whyte's chin has been damaged already by Povetkin already and this will always remains to our mind that Povetkin's uppercut is superior. And I agree that he shouldn't rush things up to redeem himself and not look for a quick solution, - revenge. And it might back fire on him as Povetkin has proven against the odds that he has the tools to take Whyte's best punch and dish his own.

Whyte's chin has been exposed and it will be target from uppercut, straight, or hook as long as Povetkin connect Whyte is in trouble, it's either he strengthens his chin or develops a power punch to knock out Povetkin before Povetkin connect, Povetkin surprisingly can take his punch but not Povetkin's punch and that will be a big difference, I will go for Povetkin this time via knock out.
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If Povetkin proves again that he is better than Whyte at uppercuts, it is going to be disastrous for Whyte's career in boxing. It would be a way better decision for Whyte to get over that recent defeat and start training more, continue improving his physical condition and leave the idea of fast revenge. Ruled by revenge only, he is going to make inefficient decisions during rounds and likely lose again. Povetkin is much more experienced boxer and he has an ability to see weaknesses of his opponent and also use them effectively against opponent. Whyte should be careful, he probably should reconsider his childish wrong motivation.
Whyte's chin has been damaged already by Povetkin already and this will always remains to our mind that Povetkin's uppercut is superior. And I agree that he shouldn't rush things up to redeem himself and not look for a quick solution, - revenge. And it might back fire on him as Povetkin has proven against the odds that he has the tools to take Whyte's best punch and dish his own.
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Whyte definitely wants a revenge here. he should at least wait til next year, when there will be at least good number of audience that will also add to their revenue. but seems that they are very impatient with the schedule.
 without a doubt, Povetkin will also prepare for this fight. also to prove that it was not his lucky punch that made him won last time.
I agree the fight is still fresh, for a fighter who lose that kind of knock out it will still haunt him, he can say that he is over with that uppercut, but the man who has done this to him is very good at doing this, I don't see Whyte doing what Joshua did to Andy Ruiz Jr in their second fight where all Joshua did was do a hit and run tactics he doesn't have the height and the speed, he is a slugger.

Whyte can still win this fight by a knockout or via decision, but if Povetkin can find a way to connect that uppercut or even a big straight punch he will have another good night's sleep again.
 
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Not surprise that Whyte wanted to get his revenge on Povetkin. He was really winning that fight, until that uppercut lands cleanly. So he wanted to get crack and really shows that he is not a over hype boxer and that his name belongs on top together with Fury, Wilder and Joshua.

For Povetkin, no adjusted as well, maybe he just needs to cover his chin and look again for that counter. I think it will last longer than the first fight though.

More head movement for Whyte if he does not want to suffer the same fate and look for the early knockout as well because if the fight prolong there's a chance that Povetkin could land that knockout punch again.

This rematch is beneficial to both of them as i think Povetkin is not a good match as of now to Anthony Joshua because of age and if Whyte could win the rematch then it could be a confidence booster for him to face AJ.

I will be betting again for Whyte but via knockout this time.
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If Povetkin proves again that he is better than Whyte at uppercuts, it is going to be disastrous for Whyte's career in boxing. It would be a way better decision for Whyte to get over that recent defeat and start training more, continue improving his physical condition and leave the idea of fast revenge. Ruled by revenge only, he is going to make inefficient decisions during rounds and likely lose again. Povetkin is much more experienced boxer and he has an ability to see weaknesses of his opponent and also use them effectively against opponent. Whyte should be careful, he probably should reconsider his childish wrong motivation.
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September 16, 2020, 02:03:08 AM
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I think it's the best for them to fight again when everything will back to normal because even though the fight was close if it's not for that surprise uppercut, the result of this second match could also be the same. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfUKa2d7rV0&ab_channel=DAZNUSA

But the question is when? we really don't know when we are going to be back to normal though. So everything needs to adjust, every other sports for that matter. I think Whyte is really hell bent on avenging his quite embarrassing lost to Povetkin and he is eager, that's why he didn't wait till the end of the year to request for a rematch. I think the betting this time will be close and I wouldn't be surprised if Povetkin will win again and prove that it is no fluke.

Whyte definitely wants a revenge here. he should at least wait til next year, when there will be at least good number of audience that will also add to their revenue. but seems that they are very impatient with the schedule.
 without a doubt, Povetkin will also prepare for this fight. also to prove that it was not his lucky punch that made him won last time.
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September 16, 2020, 02:02:47 AM
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Not surprise that Whyte wanted to get his revenge on Povetkin. He was really winning that fight, until that uppercut lands cleanly. So he wanted to get crack and really shows that he is not a over hype boxer and that his name belongs on top together with Fury, Wilder and Joshua.

For Povetkin, no adjusted as well, maybe he just needs to cover his chin and look again for that counter. I think it will last longer than the first fight though.

The big question is will Whyte  be able to take the revenge and will he be able to win from Povetkin this time ? If he failed to win again, this will be a big set back from him and his fans. Alexander Povetkin won the last fight and  denied Whyte from the title.
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September 16, 2020, 01:50:05 AM
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The man sounds emotional and restless. He sounds too eager to redeem himself. His statements seem to say that the first match was nothing but a mere lucky win for Povetkin, that the match was actually prepared for him, and the business inside the ring was just a formality. Obviously, he hasn't moved on from the recent fight yet. Uh-oh, this is already a distraction.

What made Dillian lose wasn't Povetkin's experience. Yes, Sasha was 40 during their fight, but what made him won was a very powerful uppercut which switched Dillian's consciousness off even before he landed on the canvas. And, boy, that was a bomb! And considering that Sasha was able to absorb Whyte's very strong punches that even knocked him down a couple of times, the old man's still got it. He's still very strong and dangerous.

As to the the rematch's schedule, I'm in favor of it. Alexander is already 41. The longer the wait, the older he gets, and the weaker he grows.
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September 16, 2020, 01:32:55 AM
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I think it's the best for them to fight again when everything will back to normal because even though the fight was close if it's not for that surprise uppercut, the result of this second match could also be the same. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfUKa2d7rV0&ab_channel=DAZNUSA

But the question is when? we really don't know when we are going to be back to normal though. So everything needs to adjust, every other sports for that matter. I think Whyte is really hell bent on avenging his quite embarrassing lost to Povetkin and he is eager, that's why he didn't wait till the end of the year to request for a rematch. I think the betting this time will be close and I wouldn't be surprised if Povetkin will win again and prove that it is no fluke.
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September 16, 2020, 12:10:19 AM
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Damn! I watched how Whyte got knocked out by Povetkin and it was really amazing comeback for Povetkin. Men, that Damn uppercut really got him. but unfortunately, they fought in a few audience places where you don't really feel the common atmosphere where the fans will shout after the knockout. I think it's the best for them to fight again when everything will back to normal because even though the fight was close if it's not for that surprise uppercut, the result of this second match could also be the same. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfUKa2d7rV0&ab_channel=DAZNUSA
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September 16, 2020, 12:01:06 AM
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I think we should also consider the psychological state of Whyte here. Can he get back and not think how devastated that knock out? Elite fighters can get over, like Fury getting up on the last round on the first Fury vs Wilder and then knocking him down in the second fight and showing a masterful performance.

Will Whyte have this mentally? Or will just go there didn't do any adjustments and just starts to throw bombs? If that is the case then we might see a similar ending.
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September 15, 2020, 11:20:31 PM
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“I’m over the moon to have the rematch,” Whyte said in a press release. “As soon as I got out of the ring, I was looking for confirmation that the fight would be on. I can’t wait to get back in the ring and get back what is rightfully mine. I’m looking to do what I said I would the first time, and that’s beat Alexander Povetkin.”

“There won’t be any major adjustments, but I just need to be more switched on and not get distracted,” Whyte said. “He was able to use his experience against me. I will be a lot more focused and sharper in the rematch. I’m coming to win and knock him out. I’m coming to even the score, and the only way to do that is by knocking him out.”




He is at it again bragging and making things looks easy against Povetkin, he finally realized that he needs to beat Povetkin before he can face the winner of the Fury Wilder match and he thinks it's going to be an easy win until that big uppercut, he is in command on the first fight and he could be again but if people see the effectiveness of both fighters punch, you will see that Povetkin has the upperhand.

Whyte can floor Povetkin but Povetkin can end the fight with one solid punch, if Whyte thinks that he is prepared here Povetkin is more likely to be prepared too because Whyte still thinks he is the favorite here, and Povetkin will prove him wrong again.
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September 15, 2020, 11:17:58 PM
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Not surprise that Whyte wanted to get his revenge on Povetkin. He was really winning that fight, until that uppercut lands cleanly. So he wanted to get crack and really shows that he is not a over hype boxer and that his name belongs on top together with Fury, Wilder and Joshua.

For Povetkin, no adjusted as well, maybe he just needs to cover his chin and look again for that counter. I think it will last longer than the first fight though.
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September 15, 2020, 10:53:09 PM
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In a twist of event, Whyte exercises his rematch clause and decided to get back at Povetkin on November 21 of this year, just a couple of months removed from his upset.



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“I’m over the moon to have the rematch,” Whyte said in a press release. “As soon as I got out of the ring, I was looking for confirmation that the fight would be on. I can’t wait to get back in the ring and get back what is rightfully mine. I’m looking to do what I said I would the first time, and that’s beat Alexander Povetkin.”

“There won’t be any major adjustments, but I just need to be more switched on and not get distracted,” Whyte said. “He was able to use his experience against me. I will be a lot more focused and sharper in the rematch. I’m coming to win and knock him out. I’m coming to even the score, and the only way to do that is by knocking him out.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/povetkin-whyte-rematch-announced-ppv-headliner-november-21--151729

What's your take on this, is this a hastily decision on Whyte's part? Obviously he wanted to redeem himself and Povetkin has something to prove again. I think this is going to be a very exciting. I still have Whyte in my book here though. He just need to be very careful and really concentrate on this fight and not get distracted from Joshua or Fury looming fight.
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