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So, it seems the reported injury might just be a convenient excuse because he doesn't find the fight appealing or has had a change of heart. What's going on with him, asking for a championship fight when he's at the bottom of the standings? It's like he's lost touch with reality or forgotten his current rank.

I get that he's into big fights, but he doesn't get to dictate how matchups are created. If he can't adhere to the rules of professional boxing regarding fights, maybe he should consider retiring and going for exhibition fights. With his skills in trashatalking, he's sure to draw a massive audience, and it could be a way to stay in the limelight even not in the professional sports of boxing.

Broner thinks that he can just demand a title shot at this point of his career, he has fought nobody after he lost to Manny Pacquiao, his career is clearly sliding and he is cherry-picking fights because he knows he cannot keep up with the top boxers in this generation, the trust is he is asking for the title because he just wants to make money before he exits in boxing and of course unless he did not get knock out he will still insist that he won the fight.
This is the kind of boxer who stays too long in boxing and cannot admit that his glory days are over, and with Broner's lifestyle he just wants more money, he is like Mayweather, a big spender who wants to flaunt his money.

Yeah, but unfortunately he doesn't have the skills and talent of Mayweather, so he would likely end up bankrupt because he wasn't able to manage his finances effectively. And I believe he had some lawsuits that probably requires more money for him to stay free for now. So we can see how desperate he is to have a big fight for a bigger payday.

I think it's better for this thread to be locked because the fight will not happen.

With the latest development, I think it's the right thing to do.

Thank you everyone for participating in the discussion. Thread is closed now.
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It seems like this fight might not happen due to excuses from Broner's side. His statement appears somewhat unreliable since his camp reported an injury, but he was also talking about making a comeback with a championship fight. This has definitely left fans who were eagerly anticipating the fight confused.

It's the second announcement about the postponement of the fight, considering that the original fight date was supposed to be on November 4, as mentioned in the thread.
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So, it seems the reported injury might just be a convenient excuse because he doesn't find the fight appealing or has had a change of heart. What's going on with him, asking for a championship fight when he's at the bottom of the standings? It's like he's lost touch with reality or forgotten his current rank.

I get that he's into big fights, but he doesn't get to dictate how matchups are created. If he can't adhere to the rules of professional boxing regarding fights, maybe he should consider retiring and going for exhibition fights. With his skills in trashatalking, he's sure to draw a massive audience, and it could be a way to stay in the limelight even not in the professional sports of boxing.

Broner thinks that he can just demand a title shot at this point of his career, he has fought nobody after he lost to Manny Pacquiao, his career is clearly sliding and he is cherry-picking fights because he knows he cannot keep up with the top boxers in this generation, the trust is he is asking for the title because he just wants to make money before he exits in boxing and of course unless he did not get knock out he will still insist that he won the fight.
This is the kind of boxer who stays too long in boxing and cannot admit that his glory days are over, and with Broner's lifestyle he just wants more money, he is like Mayweather, a big spender who wants to flaunt his money.
I think it's better for this thread to be locked because the fight will not happen.

Pacman really did big damage to his career but I think the real struggle does not start on that particular fight, it started when he got too cocky against Maidana and the latter schooled him. He was even lucky to fight Pacman, but his performance does replicate the way he talk as he thought he had won the game when he was only throwing few punches and not hiiting clean shots on Pacman.
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So, it seems the reported injury might just be a convenient excuse because he doesn't find the fight appealing or has had a change of heart. What's going on with him, asking for a championship fight when he's at the bottom of the standings? It's like he's lost touch with reality or forgotten his current rank.

I get that he's into big fights, but he doesn't get to dictate how matchups are created. If he can't adhere to the rules of professional boxing regarding fights, maybe he should consider retiring and going for exhibition fights. With his skills in trashatalking, he's sure to draw a massive audience, and it could be a way to stay in the limelight even not in the professional sports of boxing.

Broner thinks that he can just demand a title shot at this point of his career, he has fought nobody after he lost to Manny Pacquiao, his career is clearly sliding and he is cherry-picking fights because he knows he cannot keep up with the top boxers in this generation, the trust is he is asking for the title because he just wants to make money before he exits in boxing and of course unless he did not get knock out he will still insist that he won the fight.
This is the kind of boxer who stays too long in boxing and cannot admit that his glory days are over, and with Broner's lifestyle he just wants more money, he is like Mayweather, a big spender who wants to flaunt his money.
I think it's better for this thread to be locked because the fight will not happen.
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Adrien Broner withdraws from December 2nd return with hand injury

The funny thing is Broner wants to come back in February with a title shot when he only fought twice in five years

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“The hell with tune-up fights,” said Broner. I’m ready to take on any of the champions in the 140- and 147-pound division. I’m ready to fight the big guys. Everything they think I don’t have, I still got. I’m ready to fight Ryan Garcia or, Rolando Romero or the winner of the Regis Prograis—Devin Haney fight.”

Broner is insane to think that he deserves to have a title shot, promoters want fighters who can attract PPV and gate sales and Broner unfortunately does not have it anymore unless he beats top names in the division then people will take him seriously.

I do agree, no top boxers or at least the regular champion will give him a chance to fight for their belt. He is low risk low reward right now. We have Haney, Lopez, Prograis, Ryan Garcia and others that are in the top of their game.

He might do good against Rolly Romero, two loud mouth boxers, but the same though, even if Romero wins, he will be criticized for fighting a wash up boxer.

Maybe what Broner can do is just fight any fighters not name those mentioned above, not for the belt but just for the paycheck as we all know that he is already in the sunset of his career and just be fighting to make as much money as he can before he can retire.

So, it seems the reported injury might just be a convenient excuse because he doesn't find the fight appealing or has had a change of heart. What's going on with him, asking for a championship fight when he's at the bottom of the standings? It's like he's lost touch with reality or forgotten his current rank.

I get that he's into big fights, but he doesn't get to dictate how matchups are created. If he can't adhere to the rules of professional boxing regarding fights, maybe he should consider retiring and going for exhibition fights. With his skills in trashatalking, he's sure to draw a massive audience, and it could be a way to stay in the limelight even not in the professional sports of boxing.
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For the latest update on this fight

Adrien Broner withdraws from December 2nd return with hand injury

The funny thing is Broner wants to come back in February with a title shot when he only fought twice in five years

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“The hell with tune-up fights,” said Broner. I’m ready to take on any of the champions in the 140- and 147-pound division. I’m ready to fight the big guys. Everything they think I don’t have, I still got. I’m ready to fight Ryan Garcia or, Rolando Romero or the winner of the Regis Prograis—Devin Haney fight.”

Broner is insane to think that he deserves to have a title shot, promoters want fighters who can attract PPV and gate sales and Broner unfortunately does not have it anymore unless he beats top names in the division then people will take him seriously.

I do agree, no top boxers or at least the regular champion will give him a chance to fight for their belt. He is low risk low reward right now. We have Haney, Lopez, Prograis, Ryan Garcia and others that are in the top of their game.

He might do good against Rolly Romero, two loud mouth boxers, but the same though, even if Romero wins, he will be criticized for fighting a wash up boxer.

Maybe what Broner can do is just fight any fighters not name those mentioned above, not for the belt but just for the paycheck as we all know that he is already in the sunset of his career and just be fighting to make as much money as he can before he can retire.
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For the latest update on this fight

Adrien Broner withdraws from December 2nd return with hand injury

The funny thing is Broner wants to come back in February with a title shot when he only fought twice in five years

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“The hell with tune-up fights,” said Broner. I’m ready to take on any of the champions in the 140- and 147-pound division. I’m ready to fight the big guys. Everything they think I don’t have, I still got. I’m ready to fight Ryan Garcia or, Rolando Romero or the winner of the Regis Prograis—Devin Haney fight.”

Broner is insane to think that he deserves to have a title shot, promoters want fighters who can attract PPV and gate sales and Broner unfortunately does not have it anymore unless he beats top names in the division then people will take him seriously.
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I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.
He always defends himself with his blind alibis whenever he loses a fight, this habit will be stopped when he gets knocked out I hope Howard knocks Browner out so he can stop his arrogant behavior, his been staying in this business for too long raking up too many losses, I don't think he has a chance to win a title the welterweight champions Ennis and Crawford are on top of their games and they they are on peak of their career it will be suicidal for Browner if he dare faced these two champions.

Yeah, and that's why many fans really hate Broner because of that persona, he try to be a Floyd Mayweather, but his big mouth backfire on him. Now he is on the twilight of his career, this could be his last chance to make some money out of boxing.

Obviously, the landscape has change already, his era has gone, some of his contemporaries have retired already, like Marcos Maidana, the first man to beat him and give him his 0. That's why it's surprises fans why he still wanting to fight and the obvious answer is that he needs money. So regardless if he wins or lose, this division is not going to adapt to him.
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I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.
He always defends himself with his blind alibis whenever he loses a fight, this habit will be stopped when he gets knocked out I hope Howard knocks Browner out so he can stop his arrogant behavior, his been staying in this business for too long raking up too many losses, I don't think he has a chance to win a title the welterweight champions Ennis and Crawford are on top of their games and they they are on peak of their career it will be suicidal for Browner if he dare faced these two champions.

It sometimes pays to be one of the most hated cocky boxers of this time. With his behaviour he still can book himself to fight despite how he got crazy in the McDonald's store. Broner is already suicidal, if I remember correctly he also wanted to fight Mayweather, he called Floyd for a fight.

Floyd and Adrien used to be very tight though, they have been seen in the public many times together. If I'm not mistaken, Floyd take Broner under his wing, similar to how he did to Tank Davis. But I think Broner is really out of control that time, in his prime and he try to be the next Floyd Mayweather. But after that lost to Marcos Maidana everything falls apart and so he was forgotten. Although he got lucky that he got to fight Manny for a good paycheck even if he is already on his downward spiral.

The posts above say this fight was moved to Dec 2 as co main event of Ryan vs Duarte. Broner still has it, he also fought earlier this year. He is still 34 I think he still can fight at least to make money.

Yeah, he can still fight for the money. And maybe he can still be a champion, like interim belt, but at 140 lbs, it is very difficult as those from the 135 lbs are going up in this division like Ryan and they show intention to fight him next. And it could be Ryan's stepping stone and big test next.
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I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.
He always defends himself with his blind alibis whenever he loses a fight, this habit will be stopped when he gets knocked out I hope Howard knocks Browner out so he can stop his arrogant behavior, his been staying in this business for too long raking up too many losses, I don't think he has a chance to win a title the welterweight champions Ennis and Crawford are on top of their games and they they are on peak of their career it will be suicidal for Browner if he dare faced these two champions.

It sometimes pays to be one of the most hated cocky boxers of this time. With his behaviour he still can book himself to fight despite how he got crazy in the McDonald's store. Broner is already suicidal, if I remember correctly he also wanted to fight Mayweather, he called Floyd for a fight.

The posts above say this fight was moved to Dec 2 as co main event of Ryan vs Duarte. Broner still has it, he also fought earlier this year. He is still 34 I think he still can fight at least to make money.
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I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.
He always defends himself with his blind alibis whenever he loses a fight, this habit will be stopped when he gets knocked out I hope Howard knocks Browner out so he can stop his arrogant behavior, his been staying in this business for too long raking up too many losses, I don't think he has a chance to win a title the welterweight champions Ennis and Crawford are on top of their games and they they are on peak of their career it will be suicidal for Browner if he dare faced these two champions.
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I was curious because I thought the date hadn't changed. No wonder when I searched for the betting odds, I couldn't find any. The result was very obvious; the fight was moved a month from its original date. Thanks for the update.

To the OP, I have a suggestion. Why not change the date of the fight in your original post so that people won't get confused, like what happened to me?

I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

Yes, that's why you gonna love him or hate this guy. In the beginning of his career though, he was really a good boxer and was close to being one of the best and the hype was there. But one he lost to Maidana, fans started to make fun of him. At least they have a good reason because that was his first defeat and the way he promoted that fight is way beyond expectations, (even saying that Maidana will learn how to speak English after he defeated him, those kind of remarks is way below the belt, in my opinion).

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.

That's one thing though, now he can't back up this trash talking because he has lost already and fans find it funny and they watch the fight of Broner just to see him getting knockout and getting another L in his record.
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I was curious because I thought the date hadn't changed. No wonder when I searched for the betting odds, I couldn't find any. The result was very obvious; the fight was moved a month from its original date. Thanks for the update.

To the OP, I have a suggestion. Why not change the date of the fight in your original post so that people won't get confused, like what happened to me?

I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.

We cannot expect Broner to change he reached fame because of his arrogance, he was and he's still and will remain arrogant its his character outside and inside the ring, love it or hate it, people love hating Broner we want him to look bad so he can be humbled but it's not going to happen, even if its obvious that he lose the fight he will still defend himself and insist that he won the fight.

One example of this was his match against Pacquiao everybody knows he lose the fight but he keeps insisting that he won the fight and he was robbed go check out that interview in this video 
Broner After Fight Interview FUNNY! I BEAT HIM!


..fighters who stop fighting for a long time and then return to fight, do not know or do not want to accept retirement
Their minds won't give up until their body can't take it anymore and these are the fighters who tasted glories, fame, and money in boxing its hard for them to accept that their days are over and Broner is only a fight or two away for that and this could be one of these fights.
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For the latest update on this fight, it was moved from Nov 4 to December 3 the cancellation is not big news among boxing communities because there's hardly interest in this fight, the boxing fans don't like that Broner is taking an easy route to a title shot by fighting unpopular fighters instead of title contenders, Don King is making things easy for Broner to get a title shot, if he beats Howard he could be in a title shot, but I doubt if Crawford will give him a title shot.
Broner is not relevant now in the boxing community, and if Howard upsets Broner that's the end of the line for Broner, he is overstaying in boxing when many felt that he is not the same Broner anymore.


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By Dan Ambrose: Adrien Broner’s welterweight clash with Chris Howard has been moved to December 2nd at the Casino Miami Jai Alai in Miami, Florida. Given how little attention Broner’s fight with 16-year professional Howard has received, it’s a match-up that could be moved repeatedly and fans won’t take notice.

Source: Adrien Broner Vs. Chris Howard Moved To December 2nd - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/10/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-moved-to-december-2nd/)

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/10/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-moved-to-december-2nd/

I read the article and I confess that I didn't see the article mentioning what was the reason for changing the data of this fight knowing that people don't care about this fight, changing data will only make it even worse for people to not be interested in this fight. I don't understand what the marketing guys are doing that don't see it as a fight without much interest, so it's necessary to create some event that will awaken people's interest in this fight. But what they are doing is just the opposite, they are irritating people even more so that the few people who are interested in this fight lose all interest.

With this change in date, I highly doubt that the few people who were or are interested in this fight will believe that the fight will happen on December 2nd, this is because people easily lose the ability to trust when they have little interest in the thing and things come to be postponed. and nowadays with so many good events, it is easy to discard some fights to watch other better fights. fighters who stop fighting for a long time and then return to fight, do not know or do not want to accept retirement
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I was curious because I thought the date hadn't changed. No wonder when I searched for the betting odds, I couldn't find any. The result was very obvious; the fight was moved a month from its original date. Thanks for the update.

To the OP, I have a suggestion. Why not change the date of the fight in your original post so that people won't get confused, like what happened to me?

I was confused as well because I hadn't seen any updates in social media regarding this fight and I want to see Broner fight again because he was an entertainer and an arrogant boxer I really like to see him lose Grin Cheesy

By the way, if he only not get carried away and became arrogant both inside and outside the ring, people would really want to see his comeback fight but what can we do, that's just how he is and he has more talk than punches throughout the rounds.
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For the latest update on this fight, it was moved from Nov 4 to December 3 the cancellation is not big news among boxing communities because there's hardly interest in this fight, the boxing fans don't like that Broner is taking an easy route to a title shot by fighting unpopular fighters instead of title contenders, Don King is making things easy for Broner to get a title shot, if he beats Howard he could be in a title shot, but I doubt if Crawford will give him a title shot.
Broner is not relevant now in the boxing community, and if Howard upsets Broner that's the end of the line for Broner, he is overstaying in boxing when many felt that he is not the same Broner anymore.


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By Dan Ambrose: Adrien Broner’s welterweight clash with Chris Howard has been moved to December 2nd at the Casino Miami Jai Alai in Miami, Florida. Given how little attention Broner’s fight with 16-year professional Howard has received, it’s a match-up that could be moved repeatedly and fans won’t take notice.

Source: Adrien Broner Vs. Chris Howard Moved To December 2nd - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/10/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-moved-to-december-2nd/)

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/10/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-moved-to-december-2nd/
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They are still evenly matched because Chris Howard isn't a well-known boxer, but I'm actually still interested to see if Broner has that swagger in the ring and whether he can secure a KO. If he does, I bet his name will resonate with the fans.

sounds like his team is building him up again. he might win the fight, he is still young and capable of boxing as he used to be an unbeatable champion.
if he becomes cocky again like he did in the past he will lose against an unknown boxer. what a shameful loss given that he was showboating crazy like he is a big shot and then lost against someone he bullied Marcos Maidana. Chris having 18 wins with 8 KOs and 2L, i think is still a threat to Broner.  that is still a remarkable record for an unknown boxer.

I don't think that he can bring back his old glory though, as we have said, he could be well out of his career and just trying to get as much money as he can. Of course he can still fight if that's what he thinks and win against a fighter that is also inactive. But even if he wins here, he will not be given a chance and maybe prime fighters could destroy him for good. He will still be cocky no matter what, that's how his personality his and most likely that's why he hate him. He is so much a trash talker that he can't back anything up just like in the Maidana fight. And after that big lost, he was never the same again. And most likely he is a good example that a boxer career can be define with that one fight as he wasn't able to recover career wise after that L from Maidana.
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They are still evenly matched because Chris Howard isn't a well-known boxer, but I'm actually still interested to see if Broner has that swagger in the ring and whether he can secure a KO. If he does, I bet his name will resonate with the fans.

sounds like his team is building him up again. he might win the fight, he is still young and capable of boxing as he used to be an unbeatable champion.
if he becomes cocky again like he did in the past he will lose against an unknown boxer. what a shameful loss given that he was showboating crazy like he is a big shot and then lost against someone he bullied Marcos Maidana. Chris having 18 wins with 8 KOs and 2L, i think is still a threat to Broner.  that is still a remarkable record for an unknown boxer.

i can see this is not happening this weekend though. but his fight is the co-main event of Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte on Dec 2.


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There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511


I was curious because I thought the date hadn't changed. No wonder when I searched for the betting odds, I couldn't find any. The result was very obvious; the fight was moved a month from its original date. Thanks for the update.

To the OP, I have a suggestion. Why not change the date of the fight in your original post so that people won't get confused, like what happened to me?
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Yes, most likely this is the case, as we all know that Broner doesn't have the hype anymore and obviously his opponent? We don't know him really. So it's a good move for the promoters, or maybe it will be good if this could be in some undercard, so that there will be exposure.

But in any case that the promoters are going to make this a stand alone fight, might be difficult to make money. Unless they really low ball both of this fighters to accept the fight with small money.

Everybody knows Adrien Broner! He's a former champion and even went head-to-head with Manny Pacquiao. Maybe the reason this fight isn't for a championship is that they're trying to figure out how to make it appealing to the fans and generate a ton of money.

I think everyone is more familiar of Broner losing to Marcos Maidana and becoming the internet meme for years. He is somewhat on the downside of his career when he was given that sweepstakes to have a fight with Manny and for sure he made a ton of money out of it. But he lost that fight and his comments post fight interview is one of the craziest.
Who could forget his post-fight interview? I still remember the famous words that came out of his mouth. He said, "I beat that boy," LOL! He really didn't show respect for Pacman and couldn't accept that he lost. He even claimed to have landed more clean shots on Manny, but the Compubox records show he only threw a few punches.


If they're having trouble finding the right timing, they could make this fight an undercard for a popular main event in boxing. Or, Broner might just decide to leave professional boxing and jump into the hype of exhibition matches. Who knows, maybe he'll even take on one of the Paul Brothers!

Possible, but I'm not seeing any fight next week that can fit this fight. Besides, as what we have seen, Broner is way past his prime and then facing a fighter who is also inactive for many years.

They are still evenly matched because Chris Howard isn't a well-known boxer, but I'm actually still interested to see if Broner has that swagger in the ring and whether he can secure a KO. If he does, I bet his name will resonate with the fans.
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